Of Eagles,Lions and Bears [AH Interwar-Era] OOC -DEAD

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

I really need to ramp up my everything since that's how the USA became the Hegemon it is.

ftfy

kebab can into receiving US lend-lease?

Depends, most of US naval power in the pacific was concentrated in Hawaii. So any sort of Pearl Harbor followed by military occupation...

remember how pearl harbour worked irl?

oh yeah

It destroyed most of the US pacific fleet? With British support to Japenese forces, the Pacific war would go very differently

[Bujahla]

This is precisely why I keep saying Mitteleuropa and the British-Japanese should ally.

Not for war, but, well, because I think we need to defend from the Comintern. And let's face it - we're actually pretty similar as far as ideologies and government goes.

Assuming the so-called Comintern (which I suppose it is the communist alliance in place of the Warsaw Pact?) has any plans of attacking other nations.

It'd be the Soviet-American Alliance most likely. Warsaw Pact was something totally different and Comintern would be an international organization running through parties across the world. Though I'm not sure the USSA would tolerate it's existence in the New World. Or it'd have broken into "West" and "East" cominterns that are run from Washington and Moscow respectively.

I really need to ramp up my everything since that's how the USA became the Hegemon it is.

ftfy

kebab can into receiving US lend-lease?

You is the Ottomans, right? Or whatever they replaced?

I'm sure he was, but the USN could probably handle both.

I imagine it's pretty inevitable that another war would be won by the Comintern, so it'd probably just be everyone else's best bet to consolidate their circles of power before another war begins.

Depends, most of US naval power in the pacific was concentrated in Hawaii. So any sort of Pearl Harbor followed by military occupation...

US navy is twice as large as it was in 1938 and I am going to pass a bill that'll make me expand it in my first post xD.

We are more spread out because the Japanese threat is bigger. By size allocation Pacific then Atlantic:
- Hawaii
- Philippines
- Samoa

- Mainland
- Antilles
- Liberia

[Auroya]

As the USGA I am going to be focusing quite a bit on technological development with Germany actually. I certainly do think we have the resources.

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

As the USGA I am going to be focusing quite a bit on technological development with Germany actually. I certainly do think we have the resources.

Indeed you do

[Bujahla]

But if the world is still all realpolitik/weltpolitik Germany (at least, maybe Austria) would see any reason to fight against the Comminterm. So what if USSR is strong, you have a ton of buffer states in between it and are arguably much stronger than it. America isn't bothering Germany in the least bit (if anything there should be lots of backroom deals with regards to trade and stuff). The UK+Japs are a much bigger threat to them. It's not about ideology in this world, but practicality. The Communists aren't this strong and coherent alliance like the other nations due to lack of similar goals (except for making china communist). They aren't a threat to the middle germans, in all honesty. Russia may be, but the USSA isn't. The USSA has no problem with you guys except for, well, not being communist, but that's not all of a big deal since you are outside of the New World. An alliance with the Anglo+Japs against a minor alliance would really only help the British. They are the US's biggest rival. You'd be trying to eliminate a nation that, well, would only make your actual enemies (Brits) stronger as there isn't anything to gain from the USGA+Germans to attack the US.

Okay, well, wow.

I'm now thinking how possible good relations with the USSA would actually be. I mean, we are pretty leftist, though we're constitutional monarchists too.

*suggestive shrug*

This is what I'm saying. And the USSA doesn't have this strong communist economic stance entirely either. We have a sort of "NEP" policy going with larger gov't control of industries.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

ftfy

kebab can into receiving US lend-lease?

remember how pearl harbour worked irl?

oh yeah

It destroyed most of the US pacific fleet? With British support to Japenese forces, the Pacific war would go very differently

You will need a lot of logistics though. More than what the Japanese did. Years of planning and during the day of the attack they failed to destroy the aircraft carriers (which weren't there because that day or the day before they had some sort of exercise to do) and destroy the fuel facilities.

If you are able to destroy the aircraft carrier fleet and the fueling facilities, then things would very differently than they did in RL.

[The New Lowlands]

Assuming the so-called Comintern (which I suppose it is the communist alliance in place of the Warsaw Pact?) has any plans of attacking other nations.

It'd be the Soviet-American Alliance most likely. Warsaw Pact was something totally different and Comintern would be an international organization running through parties across the world. Though I'm not sure the USSA would tolerate it's existence in the New World. Or it'd have broken into "West" and "East" cominterns that are run from Washington and Moscow respectively.

ftfy

kebab can into receiving US lend-lease?

You is the Ottomans, right? Or whatever they replaced?

union of socialist levantine republics

We have oil for sale.

[Segmentia]

ehhh, the Anglo-Japenese alliance prolly would go to war with both of our sides, so naval might is unquestionably theirs. Air power will go to the central powers, with land forces prolly going to the Comitern. So everyone is sadnessed

"naval might"

don't forget, the british empire is collapsing

No, the empire is not. Besides, the USSA would have to build up their fleets considerably, just like in real life.

[Bujahla]

It destroyed most of the US pacific fleet? With British support to Japenese forces, the Pacific war would go very differently

You will need a lot of logistics though. More than what the Japanese did. Years of planning and during the day of the attack they failed to destroy the aircraft carriers (which weren't there because that day or the day before they had some sort of exercise to do) and destroy the fuel facilities.

If you are able to destroy the aircraft carrier fleet and the fueling facilities, then things would very differently than they did in RL.

Shh. Russia. Don't give them ideas xD.

But keep in mind how long it took for Japan to do that to America. It came after them nearly running out of fuel after the embargo. Their reasoning wasn't to go to war with the US, but to stop the US from embargoing them and getting involved. It failed, horribly, but that's not the point.

[The New Lowlands]

"naval might"

don't forget, the british empire is collapsing

No, the empire is not. Besides, the USSA would have to build up their fleets considerably, just like in real life.

remember how ww1 was a thing? which you lost?

[Bujahla]

"naval might"

don't forget, the british empire is collapsing

No, the empire is not. Besides, the USSA would have to build up their fleets considerably, just like in real life.

Yeah you really are. You lost WWI so you don't get that small stability boost that you recieved IRL. The USSA already outproduces you (so does the germans I'd assume). Your navy, while still large, will be able to be eclipsed in total war production. Your power is spread thin and the Germans and Americans are relatively stronger. The UK stopped becoming the world super power IRL at 1914, and they won the war. Here they should be even worse.

[Rephesus]

No, the empire is not. Besides, the USSA would have to build up their fleets considerably, just like in real life.

Yeah you really are. You lost WWI so you don't get that small stability boost that you recieved IRL. The USSA already outproduces you (so does the germans I'd assume). Your navy, while still large, will be able to be eclipsed in total war production. Your power is spread thin and the Germans and Americans are relatively stronger. The UK stopped becoming the world super power IRL at 1914, and they won the war. Here they should be even worse.

There was no Great Depression, the colonies continued to contribute, and that also means those millions of Indians are usable. So the UK is still definitely a global power. Add Japan and you have a superbloc.

[The New Lowlands]

Yeah you really are. You lost WWI so you don't get that small stability boost that you recieved IRL. The USSA already outproduces you (so does the germans I'd assume). Your navy, while still large, will be able to be eclipsed in total war production. Your power is spread thin and the Germans and Americans are relatively stronger. The UK stopped becoming the world super power IRL at 1914, and they won the war. Here they should be even worse.

There was no Great Depression, the colonies continued to contribute, and that also means those millions of Indians are usable. So the UK is still definitely a global power. Add Japan and you have a superbloc.

There was a Great Depression, how else do you think Murrica went Communist?

[Aldelxane]

It'd be the Soviet-American Alliance most likely. Warsaw Pact was something totally different and Comintern would be an international organization running through parties across the world. Though I'm not sure the USSA would tolerate it's existence in the New World. Or it'd have broken into "West" and "East" cominterns that are run from Washington and Moscow respectively.



You is the Ottomans, right? Or whatever they replaced?

union of socialist levantine republics

We have oil for sale.

Shhh... Maghrebi oil is best oil, don't listen to Levant.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

union of socialist levantine republics

We have oil for sale.

Shhh... Maghrebi oil is best oil, don't listen to Levant.

We should create an early version of OPEC

[Auroya]

There was no Great Depression, the colonies continued to contribute, and that also means those millions of Indians are usable. So the UK is still definitely a global power. Add Japan and you have a superbloc.

There was a Great Depression, how else do you think Murrica went Communist?

It was established that because of the result of the Great War, European economies were much less tied to the American one when it happened and so were much, much less severely affected.

[Segmentia]

Might have missed it, but did the Great Depression happen? I'm guessing no. Which would be great for me, since that's what held the British back from fully modernizing their forces before WW2 IRL.

I'm not quite sure what caused the GD as such, though due to the lack of US support / creating the Mitteleuropa sphere(Entente and CP, respectively - more or less) the European economies became significantly less attached to the American economy.
So if it happened, which isn't guaranteed, it didn't happen as majorly in Europe.

So, the GD isn't a guaranteed event.

[The New Lowlands]

There was a Great Depression, how else do you think Murrica went Communist?

It was established that because of the result of the Great War, European economies were much less tied to the American one when it happened and so were much, much less severely affected.

wat
that certainly doesn't make any sense

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

There was a Great Depression, how else do you think Murrica went Communist?

It was established that because of the result of the Great War, European economies were much less tied to the American one when it happened and so were much, much less severely affected.

And with that same token, much less prosperous than in RL.

[Segmentia]

No, the empire is not. Besides, the USSA would have to build up their fleets considerably, just like in real life.

remember how ww1 was a thing? which you lost?

And? I lost barely any territories, didn't have to undertake the cost of maintaining German colonies, and significant amounts of investments in the US were most likely withdrawn thanks to the the US betraying the Allies. If anything the German economy would be worse then mine because suddenly they have massive amounts of colonies to support and maintain.

[Bujahla]

There was no Great Depression, the colonies continued to contribute, and that also means those millions of Indians are usable. So the UK is still definitely a global power. Add Japan and you have a superbloc.

There was a Great Depression, how else do you think Murrica went Communist?

US went mostly cause of a recession in the 20's caused by shitty oppressive leader that made the nation almost go into a depression. We went commie in 24.

[Auroya]

There was a Great Depression, how else do you think Murrica went Communist?

US went mostly cause of a recession in the 20's caused by shitty oppressive leader that made the nation almost go into a depression. We went commie in 24.

Wait, so was there a GD or not?

[Bujahla]

US went mostly cause of a recession in the 20's caused by shitty oppressive leader that made the nation almost go into a depression. We went commie in 24.

Wait, so was there a GD or not?

GD is impossible because no Young Plan in Germany to create booming US economy.

Unless if I did it it with France, but so far my history doesn't include it. I thought no GD was a thing.

EDIT: But there would have been a bad recession from like 1921-1926/7

[Auroya]

Wait, so was there a GD or not?

GD is impossible because no Young Plan in Germany to create booming US economy.

Unless if I did it it with France, but so far my history doesn't include it. I thought no GD was a thing.

EDIT: But there would have been a bad recession from like 1921-1926/7

Ah, alright. Great.

[Bujahla]

Anyhow, I'mma be off for a bit doing some work I need to get done. I work from 4-9 tonight so don't expect to see me on.

Adios compadres. Also, lets make sure we don't take this to the point of like, no cooperation because we are too invested. That goes for me too btw.