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Postby Aden Protectorate » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:27 am

Mefpan wrote:Oh please, using modified Amerika-Bombers to drop paratroopers onto American soil to let our submersible troopships land under the eyes of the American navy where we then sink them in port will go swimmingly, especially when we do it in '44.

A quick strike then will ensure that America is too preoccupied with trying not to be anschlussed by the Reich to invest much into developing nooks.

Trust me, I've seen it work in vidya gems.


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Mefpan wrote:Oh please, using modified Amerika-Bombers to drop paratroopers onto American soil to let our submersible troopships land under the eyes of the American navy where we then sink them in port will go swimmingly, especially when we do it in '44.

A quick strike then will ensure that America is too preoccupied with trying not to be anschlussed by the Reich to invest much into developing nooks.

Trust me, I've seen it work in vidya gems.

2bad berlin will be swarmed by M4 "Marx" tanks by 1943 amirite

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Postby The Industrial States of Columbia » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:28 am

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Mefpan wrote:Oh please, using modified Amerika-Bombers to drop paratroopers onto American soil to let our submersible troopships land under the eyes of the American navy where we then sink them in port will go swimmingly, especially when we do it in '44.

A quick strike then will ensure that America is too preoccupied with trying not to be anschlussed by the Reich to invest much into developing nooks.

Trust me, I've seen it work in vidya gems.


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Launch the Bolivar 1-1's!


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Hush child. The adults are talking. :p

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Hush child. The adults are talking. :p


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The Industrial States of Columbia wrote:
Aden Protectorate wrote:Hush child. The adults are talking. :p


Bless your heart, child, for are you are born quite new into a world quite old :P

Well played. 8)

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Postby Bujahla » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:32 am

Mefpan wrote:Oh please, using modified Amerika-Bombers to drop paratroopers onto American soil to let our submersible troopships land under the eyes of the American navy where we then sink them in port will go swimmingly, especially when we do it in '44.

A quick strike then will ensure that America is too preoccupied with trying not to be anschlussed by the Reich to invest much into developing nooks.

Trust me, I've seen it work in vidya gems.


No but think of all the logistics involved with trying to invade America. Literally the only possible nation would be the UK through Canada, but even that'd be difficult. So what if you do a landing and take New York (which would be hard enough). Now you can't expand your borders as you don't have enough troops to supply your movement. Unless if you launched a huge ass army, which would probably get involved in a naval battle in the Atlantic. You land, capture a city, then get blockaded and seiged by the USSA forces before your reinforcements arrive only to be met with a mega-fucking war machine that has the world's highest industrial output.
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Well played. 8)


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Postby Auroya » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:34 am

Bujahla wrote:
Mefpan wrote:Oh please, using modified Amerika-Bombers to drop paratroopers onto American soil to let our submersible troopships land under the eyes of the American navy where we then sink them in port will go swimmingly, especially when we do it in '44.

A quick strike then will ensure that America is too preoccupied with trying not to be anschlussed by the Reich to invest much into developing nooks.

Trust me, I've seen it work in vidya gems.


No but think of all the logistics involved with trying to invade America. Literally the only possible nation would be the UK through Canada, but even that'd be difficult. So what if you do a landing and take New York (which would be hard enough). Now you can't expand your borders as you don't have enough troops to supply your movement. Unless if you launched a huge ass army, which would probably get involved in a naval battle in the Atlantic. You land, capture a city, then get blockaded and seiged by the USSA forces before your reinforcements arrive only to be met with a mega-fucking war machine that has the world's highest industrial output.


The only way it would ever be done is via Canada.
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Postby The Industrial States of Columbia » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:34 am

Bujahla wrote:
Mefpan wrote:Oh please, using modified Amerika-Bombers to drop paratroopers onto American soil to let our submersible troopships land under the eyes of the American navy where we then sink them in port will go swimmingly, especially when we do it in '44.

A quick strike then will ensure that America is too preoccupied with trying not to be anschlussed by the Reich to invest much into developing nooks.

Trust me, I've seen it work in vidya gems.


No but think of all the logistics involved with trying to invade America. Literally the only possible nation would be the UK through Canada, but even that'd be difficult. So what if you do a landing and take New York (which would be hard enough). Now you can't expand your borders as you don't have enough troops to supply your movement. Unless if you launched a huge ass army, which would probably get involved in a naval battle in the Atlantic. You land, capture a city, then get blockaded and seiged by the USSA forces before your reinforcements arrive only to be met with a mega-fucking war machine that has the world's highest industrial output.


Eh, basically both sides end up fighting an oceanic war, with U-boots and super battlships. No real invasion force can touch either side. Now, if it goes into a three way war however...
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Postby The New Lowlands » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:36 am

The Industrial States of Columbia wrote:
Bujahla wrote:
No but think of all the logistics involved with trying to invade America. Literally the only possible nation would be the UK through Canada, but even that'd be difficult. So what if you do a landing and take New York (which would be hard enough). Now you can't expand your borders as you don't have enough troops to supply your movement. Unless if you launched a huge ass army, which would probably get involved in a naval battle in the Atlantic. You land, capture a city, then get blockaded and seiged by the USSA forces before your reinforcements arrive only to be met with a mega-fucking war machine that has the world's highest industrial output.


Eh, basically both sides end up fighting an oceanic war, with U-boots and super battlships. No real invasion force can touch either side. Now, if it goes into a three way war however...

USSA has Russia to deploy from.

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Postby Bujahla » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:38 am

K so I'm just realizing what the title is.

Eagles - Germany+Austria (cause CoA)
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Bujahla wrote:
No but think of all the logistics involved with trying to invade America. Literally the only possible nation would be the UK through Canada, but even that'd be difficult. So what if you do a landing and take New York (which would be hard enough). Now you can't expand your borders as you don't have enough troops to supply your movement. Unless if you launched a huge ass army, which would probably get involved in a naval battle in the Atlantic. You land, capture a city, then get blockaded and seiged by the USSA forces before your reinforcements arrive only to be met with a mega-fucking war machine that has the world's highest industrial output.


The only way it would ever be done is via Canada.


Which is still really hard and an absolute drain on the British. You'd have multiple points of crossing the St. Lawrence via Niagra or Detroit-Windsor, but those aren't great options. You could launch troops to Nova Scotia and push down, but that'd be very tireless and hard to do. It's not like Germany where you can just push and push and hope to capture it all and eliminate the government. Texas alone is like the size of Europe. America is fucking massive. You could take, at best, up to New York, and that's assuming you somehow can take Boston. You'd be pushed for luck to take much. Sure you can blockade the coasts, but good luck taking anything. Bomb Detroit? Might be the only move that'd be helpful to you, but I doubt the facilities to do so would be as close as the airbases in Michigan at this time to Windsor.
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Postby Bujahla » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:39 am

The Industrial States of Columbia wrote:
Bujahla wrote:
No but think of all the logistics involved with trying to invade America. Literally the only possible nation would be the UK through Canada, but even that'd be difficult. So what if you do a landing and take New York (which would be hard enough). Now you can't expand your borders as you don't have enough troops to supply your movement. Unless if you launched a huge ass army, which would probably get involved in a naval battle in the Atlantic. You land, capture a city, then get blockaded and seiged by the USSA forces before your reinforcements arrive only to be met with a mega-fucking war machine that has the world's highest industrial output.


Eh, basically both sides end up fighting an oceanic war, with U-boots and super battlships. No real invasion force can touch either side. Now, if it goes into a three way war however...


This. And both nations would know this and wouldn't try it.
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Postby The Industrial States of Columbia » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:40 am

The New Lowlands wrote:
The Industrial States of Columbia wrote:
Eh, basically both sides end up fighting an oceanic war, with U-boots and super battlships. No real invasion force can touch either side. Now, if it goes into a three way war however...

USSA has Russia to deploy from.


ehhh, the Anglo-Japenese alliance prolly would go to war with both of our sides, so naval might is unquestionably theirs. Air power will go to the central powers, with land forces prolly going to the Comitern. So everyone is sadnessed
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The Industrial States of Columbia wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:USSA has Russia to deploy from.


ehhh, the Anglo-Japenese alliance prolly would go to war with both of our sides, so naval might is unquestionably theirs. Air power will go to the central powers, with land forces prolly going to the Comitern. So everyone is sadnessed

"naval might"

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Postby Auroya » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:41 am

This is precisely why I keep saying Mitteleuropa and the British-Japanese should ally.

Not for war, but, well, because I think we need to defend from the Comintern. And let's face it - we're actually pretty similar as far as ideologies and government goes.
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Postby Auroya » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:41 am

The New Lowlands wrote:
The Industrial States of Columbia wrote:
ehhh, the Anglo-Japenese alliance prolly would go to war with both of our sides, so naval might is unquestionably theirs. Air power will go to the central powers, with land forces prolly going to the Comitern. So everyone is sadnessed

"naval might"

don't forget, the british empire is collapsing


I think he was talking about the British plus the Japanese.

sorry for the double post
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Postby Aden Protectorate » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:44 am

Bujahla wrote:K so I'm just realizing what the title is.

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Postby The New Lowlands » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:45 am

Auroya wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:"naval might"

don't forget, the british empire is collapsing


I think he was talking about the British plus the Japanese.

sorry for the double post

I'm sure he was, but the USN could probably handle both.
Auroya wrote:This is precisely why I keep saying Mitteleuropa and the British-Japanese should ally.

Not for war, but, well, because I think we need to defend from the Comintern. And let's face it - we're actually pretty similar as far as ideologies and government goes.

I imagine it's pretty inevitable that another war would be won by the Comintern, so it'd probably just be everyone else's best bet to consolidate their circles of power before another war begins.

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Auroya wrote:This is precisely why I keep saying Mitteleuropa and the British-Japanese should ally.

Not for war, but, well, because I think we need to defend from the Comintern. And let's face it - we're actually pretty similar as far as ideologies and government goes.


Assuming the so-called Comintern (which I suppose it is the communist alliance in place of the Warsaw Pact?) has any plans of attacking other nations.
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Postby Bujahla » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:47 am

The Industrial States of Columbia wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:USSA has Russia to deploy from.


ehhh, the Anglo-Japenese alliance prolly would go to war with both of our sides, so naval might is unquestionably theirs. Air power will go to the central powers, with land forces prolly going to the Comitern. So everyone is sadnessed


I really need to ramp up my airforce since that's how the USA became the Hegemon it is.

Auroya wrote:This is precisely why I keep saying Mitteleuropa and the British-Japanese should ally.

Not for war, but, well, because I think we need to defend from the Comintern. And let's face it - we're actually pretty similar as far as ideologies and government goes.


But if the world is still all realpolitik/weltpolitik Germany (at least, maybe Austria) would see any reason to fight against the Comminterm. So what if USSR is strong, you have a ton of buffer states in between it and are arguably much stronger than it. America isn't bothering Germany in the least bit (if anything there should be lots of backroom deals with regards to trade and stuff). The UK+Japs are a much bigger threat to them. It's not about ideology in this world, but practicality. The Communists aren't this strong and coherent alliance like the other nations due to lack of similar goals (except for making china communist). They aren't a threat to the middle germans, in all honesty. Russia may be, but the USSA isn't. The USSA has no problem with you guys except for, well, not being communist, but that's not all of a big deal since you are outside of the New World. An alliance with the Anglo+Japs against a minor alliance would really only help the British. They are the US's biggest rival. You'd be trying to eliminate a nation that, well, would only make your actual enemies (Brits) stronger as there isn't anything to gain from the USGA+Germans to attack the US.
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Postby The Industrial States of Columbia » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:47 am

The New Lowlands wrote:
Auroya wrote:
I think he was talking about the British plus the Japanese.

sorry for the double post

I'm sure he was, but the USN could probably handle both.
Auroya wrote:This is precisely why I keep saying Mitteleuropa and the British-Japanese should ally.

Not for war, but, well, because I think we need to defend from the Comintern. And let's face it - we're actually pretty similar as far as ideologies and government goes.

I imagine it's pretty inevitable that another war would be won by the Comintern, so it'd probably just be everyone else's best bet to consolidate their circles of power before another war begins.


Depends, most of US naval power in the pacific was concentrated in Hawaii. So any sort of Pearl Harbor followed by military occupation...
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Postby The New Lowlands » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:48 am

Bujahla wrote:
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ehhh, the Anglo-Japenese alliance prolly would go to war with both of our sides, so naval might is unquestionably theirs. Air power will go to the central powers, with land forces prolly going to the Comitern. So everyone is sadnessed


I really need to ramp up my everything since that's how the USA became the Hegemon it is.

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The New Lowlands wrote:I'm sure he was, but the USN could probably handle both.

I imagine it's pretty inevitable that another war would be won by the Comintern, so it'd probably just be everyone else's best bet to consolidate their circles of power before another war begins.

Depends, most of US naval power in the pacific was concentrated in Hawaii. So any sort of Pearl Harbor followed by military occupation...

remember how pearl harbour worked irl?

oh yeah
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Postby Auroya » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:49 am

Bujahla wrote:But if the world is still all realpolitik/weltpolitik Germany (at least, maybe Austria) would see any reason to fight against the Comminterm. So what if USSR is strong, you have a ton of buffer states in between it and are arguably much stronger than it. America isn't bothering Germany in the least bit (if anything there should be lots of backroom deals with regards to trade and stuff). The UK+Japs are a much bigger threat to them. It's not about ideology in this world, but practicality. The Communists aren't this strong and coherent alliance like the other nations due to lack of similar goals (except for making china communist). They aren't a threat to the middle germans, in all honesty. Russia may be, but the USSA isn't. The USSA has no problem with you guys except for, well, not being communist, but that's not all of a big deal since you are outside of the New World. An alliance with the Anglo+Japs against a minor alliance would really only help the British. They are the US's biggest rival. You'd be trying to eliminate a nation that, well, would only make your actual enemies (Brits) stronger as there isn't anything to gain from the USGA+Germans to attack the US.


Okay, well, wow.

I'm now thinking how possible good relations with the USSA would actually be. I mean, we are pretty leftist, though we're constitutional monarchists too.
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