Of Eagles,Lions and Bears [AH Interwar-Era] OOC -DEAD

[The New Lowlands]

I'm interested in it, but not interested enough to compete with another interested person

although i'd prefer it if you tried to fix europe

No Pro-Germans!
-nod-

no pro what now?

i'm sorry friend, i'm not sure what you're talking about

[Liecthenbourg]

No Pro-Germans!
-nod-

no pro what now?

i'm sorry friend, i'm not sure what you're talking about

The other France was Pro-German, IIRC.
I prefer your option

[The Jonathanian States]

Aye, then Verdun is french. *raises glass* To Verdun, may its fields be bloodied by inter-European warfare no more.

To the glory of Europa, kameraden!

EUROPA!

Well hi jon. Any free areas?

Some.
I just noticed....

If there is a LoN/UN/whatever, may Siam be a member?

I doubt there'll be, though if there is, sure.

Jon, what do you say to us and our puppets adopting a common currently post-war? I think it could really help us.

call it the Euro

Heh. Sure.

Also, was there ever a Great Depression in this timeline, or how did the post-war economy turn out?

Europe was slightly more interdependent and less attached to the US, so it wasn't quite as affected. Regarding the US proper: That is for you to realistically make.

Also, I'm currently working on Rnclave's FSA. And damn, I'm stuck in the trenches of realism, the vanguard of backgrounds, fighting against fantasy.
Will catch up with rest of the thread later.

[Epraria]

Alright so what areas are open? Because the rooster doesn't seem up to date.

[The New Lowlands]

Alright so what areas are open? Because the rooster doesn't seem up to date.

turkey/the ottoman empire, for one

[The Jonathanian States]

State and Diplomacy
[Short] Name of State: Free States of America
Native Name of State: Free States of America, or FSA
[Complete] Name of State: Free States of America
Flag/Banner/Seal:


Flag:

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Seal:

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Head of State: Eugene Debs
Territory:

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Claimed Territory: The Free States claim Canada as their own, but no one accepts this claim but the Generals of the Military
Protectorates, Vassal States, etc: (If you are a Dominion/Protectorate/Vassal State, please mention your protector)
Alignment or Alliances: Allied with all Communist states/ Socialist States
Other Foreign Affairs of Note: The FSA early in after the elections putting them into power, decided to stay isolated and slowly dip the tentacles of Socialism into other small nations of North America and Africa, introducing them to the idea, placing the propaganda within the minds of the Working class, along with the poorer people. These ideals stuck well with them, leading to many a revolution, some worked some were beaten and the principal economic systems restored.

Government
Type of Government Federal Semi-Presidential Socialist Oligarchy
Head of Government Eugene V. Debs
Ideologies: Classic Marxism

Economy
Main Exports:Iron and Steel, Gum and Resins, Other Manufactured Products, Agricultural Products
Main Imports: Oil, Gas, Metal
Other information:The FSA is a textbook Socialist nation, their reforms passed having severely increased the Working classes situation, as well as almost abolishing classes. The Factory funds bill, passed in 1925, used government subsidies to reopen almost 1,000 closing factories, as well as putting these factories under government control, which meant by 1935, the government controlled 30% of manufacturing and the resources with which to produce things. The Better Farms bill, gave the government complete control of Commercial farming, using this power they expanded these farms to be some of the biggest companies in the US, also the government began a process of increasing American manufacturing and agricultural output by 50%, these extra goods being sold to poorer countries, albeit at lower prices, but giving them even more income. Staring in 1925, following the first official election of a socialist to office, the USA began a series of "5 Year plans" ( Working like the USSR's IRL, without the purges ) these 5 Year plans were known for jump starting the economy, and saving the FSA in 1929, from a terrible recession, these plans have put the FSA in an economic boom since 1930, and have made the FSA one if the top economies in the world, and a lifeline to many smaller nations.

Population and people
Population: 130,000,000
Main National Culture: Western/ English
Accepted Cultures: Native American, Latin American, Afro-American
Cultures: Russian, German, Anglo-Saxon
Cultures scapegoated, or just asking to be scapegoated Asian, blamed for problems in labour
National Language(s): English
Recognized Languages: Spanish, German, Russian, French, Italian
Minority Languages: Chinese, Japanese and most Asiatic languages
Main religion(s): Roman Catholic, Protestant
Minority Religions: Vodoo, Mormon

Military
Ground Forces:

US Army:

Active: 250,000
Reserve: 450,000
Tanks: 3,000
Artillery Pieces: 3,500
Main Rifle: M1 Garand
Main Tank: M3 Lee
Training:(1-10) 7( Above Average)
Equipment:(1-10)6( Above Average )

USMC:
Active: 120,000
Reserve: 80,000
Tanks: 1,000
Artillery Pieces: 500
Main Rifle: M1903 Springfield
Main Tank: M3 Lee
Training:(1-10) 9
Equipment:(1-10) 5






Naval Forces:

The Naval forces of the FSA are more dedicated to Trade Protection then projecting American power worldwide. Because of their dedication to protecting their trade, all US Naval bases are always on high alert and ready to go at anytime, in the rare occurrence that the US trade is attacked.

Battleships: 60
Destroyers: 30
Frigates: 50
Submersibles: 50
Aircraft Carriers: 2
Training:(1-10) 4
Equipment:(1-10) 6



Air Forces:

Interceptors: 120
Short-Range Bombers: 20
Medium-Range Bombers: 40
Long-Range Bombers: 80
Training:(1-10) 3
Equipment:(1-10) 5



Other
History:

1918: A minute of silence is announced from the steps of the White House after word of British-French defeat reaches the USA, the Anglo-Saxon nation boils in rage silently, stepping silently even more from the world stage after this tragic war. Small panic begins to spread in the US of a American-German war, but these fears are quelled with German actions after the war,and the weakness of the German state afterwards.

1919: Under popular demands from the Republicans to build a standing military in the case of a Second Great War, the Democrats cave and pass a bill expanding the military. The Army expands to 250,000 and several other branches expirence similar expansions. This year also see's a dip in the American economy, not a severe dip but one noticeable enough to reach the news.

1920: The American people watch in fear as the economy once again dips the year charcterized more by the constant up and down of the American economy more than anything else, but with some work, the Democrat-Republican congress manage to grasp back control of the economy, slowly standing it back up and strengthening it. A new party is formed, the Worker's Party of America, a party that quickly gains ground in the Middle and Lower class, but is detested by the Upper, due to their policies removing them from such high social status.

1924: Upton Sinclair, the presidential canidate of the Workers Party, is shot on the day of his enuguration, by a Hit man funded by a previously popular Upper class sportsman. A mob of angry Workers party supporters charged the mans mansion, mutilating the man and hanging him from a lamp post on his street. This night was refered to nationwide as the Night of burning banks, as almost 15,000 Workers party supporters took to the streets, burning down the Banks they believed carried the Upper classes funds, the funds were pooled in the street and set ablaze, as well as the banks that held them, the Bank workers hung and set ablaze as well. For 3 weeks everynight the Socialist took to the streets in extremely violent riots, recorded as some of the worst in history. The army as called to quell these riots, a force of 5,000 supporters took to the streets, digging trenches outside of cities and stringing farm barbwire across large expanses of land. The Socialists armed with hunting rifles and an assortment of weapons fought off the Army for 9 days, before a large infantry charge overwhelmed them, and a gas attack drove them from the city. National outrage followed, the use of force enraged millions, even more refusing to go to work the next day or pay taxes until the government fixed the situation.

1925-1927: California, now considered the most liberal and socialist state in the union, declared independance, Workers Part supporters flocking to the state by the thousands, a ragtag Army o Farmers and Labouers was thrown together and given military rifles. The US Army was mobilized, 60,000 men heading to California, or the Californian Peoples Union, propaganda posters consisting of images of the Soldiers riding in vehicles holding rifles and laughing and cheering was passed around, giving more hate to the USA. The first battle was in Los Angleas, the soldiers allowed to pass through without knowledge of the Cali Army waiting for them in the city. The battle lasted 2 days, the humiliated US army quickly pushed almost completly out of California within 2 weeks. Although the Army regrouped and pushed back in again, more and more men were sacrificed to the meat grinder as the Army continued trying to wrestle control of the State back. The final descive war was not in California, but in New York, a group of Anarcho-Socialists burst bombs in the Stock exchange and all over big corporations throughout New York, crippling the already strained economy. These attacks continued throughout the US until the Army met the Californians in Las Vegas, a Californian Army of 10,000 fought a police force and militia of 2,500. The bloodiest Urban warfare battle in US History followed as gruesome attacks began being fought in close quarters. But in the end, California managed to win it's independance, the weakened USA unwilling to continue fighting it's own people.

1928: Life in the USA continued, albeit more strictly, as nationwide Martial law was declared in order to get a grip upon it's citizens after the War. While these actions were supposed to quell the Red Fever running wild throughout the US, these actions only served to anger the people more, as almost 50% of the Population now identified with the Workers Party cause, California only serving to increase these problems. California sensing the USA's weakness moved and absorbed Nevada and Arizona, forming what they called the rightful US government, the Free States of America, a Federal Presidential Socialist Oligarchy. The freedoms guarnteed by the new nation enticed million to flock to it, the symbol of freedom created more correctly lined up with their image of the USA then the actual USA did.

1929-1931: The Great depression begins. The collapse of the economy serves to show only one thing to the FSA, that the USA was not the rightful government. The now professionally trained army began the march east, capturing every state they could grab, most just simply joining the FSA. The US Army, while fighting to the last man, was hopelessly outclassed by the FSA, focus in the USA having moved to the economy, while the superior FSA economy allowed for some money to the military. The War of Free State Unification ended in 1931, with D.C. being gassed and the politicans within beheaded by angry citizens. While in San Fransisco, Eugene V. Debs proclaimed victory from the steps of the new White House, Unification complete. While the war was successful, the Depressions's effects did not ignore the FSA, bills passed in the FSA were passed in the new territory they had gotten, such as the Factory Funds bill, opening nearly 1,000 closing factories and putting them under the governments control. These bills were accepted greatly by the populace. With this, the first 5 Year Plan was passed ( Similar to the USSR's) this plan was to centralize the economy and put more focus on industry, the first plan expanded industry by 50%, as well as reducing imports of foreign goods by 30%. The plans main idea was to convert the economy to an almost textbook Marxist economy, albeit with a few changes to fit the American people. This plan also called for the purging of those responsible for the USA's collapse, the the plan was followed through with.

1936: The First 5 year plan finishes with untold success. The plan works so well that 3 more are passed for the following 15 years. Life in the FSA had become more than anyone could ask, the freedoms guarnteed by them more than any other nation in the world. The economy had returned to being one of the greatest in the world, the Free States had become a Marxist paradise, that would have made Karl Marx himself weep. The Army was expanded and modernized, the Springfield being replaced with the M1 Garand. Because of the actions undertaken by the USA, the Army was limited to 250,000 during peace. The Navy expirenced the greatest expansion it had gotten in history, with many ships being built to protect American trade.

1937-1938: Industry in the FSA reaches levels that are revered worldwide for their expert ability and quality, as the FSA came to be one of the strongest economies worldwide, it's power unmatched. This news was announced by President Eugene V. Debs from the steps of the White House, waht followed was 3 days of celebration unseen by the Free States in a long time


Any other things you might want to note: Nope
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History......
1918.... that's kinda stretching it, but sure, passes.
1919 For one, nobody, bloody nobody, has expected or will expect a second Great War (possibly in the last three-ish years of the background, depending on how the world is). Before that, nobody will do so.
Germany is busy recovering and policing gains. The US is the US, Monroe and all that - which has been confirmed and stabilized by Germany dropping by with that surprise present. Britain is Britain and the continent already mostly is lost, France has been crushed for the next few many years, Russia was busy infighting, and Japan barely was considered a Great Power at that Time. Italy got pegged down a notch as well. Austria-hungary, while not having as many gains as germany, has expanded into ethnicities and has to get its homefront in order. Bulgaria is small, the Ottomans are sickly.... anybody I missed?
Everybody considered the Weltkrieg, the Great War, as the War to end all Wars.
And even if that'd be reason for expansion, it'd be mostly for the Navy, I think.
1920 - Assuming the Economy is gained control of, which seems reasonable as - if I understand correctly - this is just a normal minor tilt, why the heck would that cause widespread socialism? That's not what causes socialism. Look at WW1 Russia. That can cause socialism. At Interwar Germany's hyper-inflation. That can cause socialism as well. Minor economic issues that the government quickly gets under control do not cause socialism

Also, Democrat-Republican congress?
1924 - I think the army would be called in before 3 weeks of permanent Riots, or at least the National Guards would be.
Government uses gas to strike rebels = Outrage - Let's remember that for later. Also, infantry charge? The US was neutral in WW1 meaning they most likely had some sort of observers. They will not be dumb enough to repeat a mistake, not when dealing with an surrounded uprising. Either they dig in themselves and wait it out, or they shell them into submission, or they copycat Stormtrooper Breakthroughs. Or gas, but that'd be insane to use inside a city. Part seems to hint at them being outside of the city in that case it weights even more for the army.

1925 - 1927
There's only so many guns California can hand out. Assuming the whole Californian National Guard sides with the secessionists they have access to the 40th Infantry Brigade Combat Team.
That means two battalions of Infantry meaning up to 2400 troops. One Squadron of Cavalry, a Battalion of Field Artillery as well as one battalion of support and special troops each.
That is maximally 9600 troops, of which 2400 would be infantry, 1200 would be Cavalry, 1200 would be Field Artillery with the rest being support and special troops. That is in the best case. Worst case the total is 1800 because that's how US Battalions can vary and because I didn't find any numbers for Cali's National Guard in 1917-19 or the 40th Infantry at the same time. That'd be the equipment and Military-Grade weapons available. Everything beyond that is private stores. And this is bloody assuming not a single Californian national guardist is a Unionist and blows up the ammunition stores.

But ok, 60,000 soldiers head for the US. They spread posters, sure. I could even see that pissing off those who disagree with their cause, but they'd be pissed anyway.
The troops reach Los Angeles. Ok, then they don't know of the troops there. But that'd be also a reason for them having Cavalry units(which even the National Guard has, so they'd have as well). To ride in and scout out. If the cavalry comes back they know where the enemy is in town, if it doesn't they know it is somewhere in the the city. But ok, assuming they don't do that. And still don't know of the troops. 1920s population of LA was slightly more than half a million. Let's assume that 10% of the whole population somehow raise up arms and decide to join the cause so early. That's 50,000 additional combatants, but most if not all without combat experience. Unless they somehow all got disciplined and perfect communications they will not manage a proper ambush, breaking somewhere. Unless the US troops are overly stupid they can take those on. And if they see they can't they retreat and, considering popular support, shell the city into submission (I'd assume they'd target areas of submission, but I doubt untrained volunteers with private arms only would hold too long under shelling. If they leave cover and assault the US outside they are dead meat, without being able to hide and such they'd be massacred by the numerically superior Federals who outgun them and have proper training.
But let's say that the general was the definition of an idiot, who doesn't scout, doesn't retreat from an ambush, and doesn't use his artillery against entrenched enemies. Let's say he even somehow is completely pushed out of the city within two days. How the heck is he pushed back of the state withing two weeks. Unless he just sent his men into Machinegun fire (with the US having been neutral, I assume they could have had observers in WW1 just as Germany had in the Spanish-American War, learning of the idiocy of infantry charges), there's no way he lost that much so quickly for his position to be unholdable outside of the city. At least, I significantly doubt it. He'd entrench on the first hill, use cavalry to inform himself of rebel movements towards him, park the artillery, and batter aggressors down the hill saving his infantry for closer ranges until rebel morale breaks. (Still the same issue of them being untrained troops with maybe LA as experience).

But let's say that he got pushed out of Cali within two weeks. How the hell is marching back in a meatgrinder? There's no way in hell the rebels can man a proper trench-defense along the whole border, meaning that there's no way they can prevent Unionists into the states. Once they break through, all trenches not inwards are irrelevant. So it's not that. Then maybe in the cities? If so, please refer to the battle of LA. Also, you'd be assuming no village would be unionists and would sabotage local secessionists in order to get the US troops through (and maybe simply so that they spare them shelling or such). But let's indeed assume that the US is beaten out and can't get in, and that somehow all bombings succeed and that after the first one the Police and Army just let it pass instead of doing something effective.
How the hell do 10,000 Californians catch 2,500 police in a border state. By now, according to what you described, the US would be at war in a scale of the Civil War, during which the US had over 2,000,000 troops. (I have no idea how many from Cali, but let's say 100,000 and give the US 2 million exactly). Then there are the troops from "Confederate" states which are loyalists now. An additional million, and all of that a good 50 years before this happens. The US can and will surround Cali with proper troops. (Maybe not actual full trenches like in France, but Army fortifications in certain distances, short enough to screen what is between - I'd assume. So no, 10,000 Calis just wandering through and meeting 2,500 cops in Vegas does not work.
And assuming it does happen, and that the Calis win before US reinforecements arrive (which wouldn't happen) why the heck would the US surrender? The US didn't surrender in the Civil War, and that was against quite a lot of states with half their manpower, compared to this single state whose largest city has half a million in total population.

I could continue forward, each time starting my issues again with "But let's say" or "But let's assume", but honestly I can't be assed to do so. Neither will I look deeper into anything else until the US is somewhat realistic. I mean, Buj's app went against the US people, but it didn't have stupid generals. Which seems to be something now.

Also, if I caused offense with some of the commentary, that was really not my intention. I just have this thing with attempting to keep this timeline at least somewhat realistic, with which this kinda conflicts. It might be good for a different sort of rp, though not quite for this one.

I think that's the longest feedback I ever made for a single app.

Alright so what areas are open? Because the rooster doesn't seem up to date.

The roster is updated, technically. After expiration of a reservations I decided that i'll determine things by quality, meaning that technically all those (not there) are open - though many of those will have rpers having applied for them.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

germoney is ded

WIP

State and Diplomacy
[Short] Name of State: france
Native Name of State: hon hon hon baguette
[Complete] Name of State: Republic of France
Flag/Banner/Seal: flag [url=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Armoiries_république_française.svg]seal[/url]
Head of State: Maréchal Pierre Taittinger
Territory: basically the territories indicated on the map
Claimed Territory: basically everything the germans/italians stole from us + wallonia (albeit not necessarily openly)
Protectorates, Vassal States, etc: gtfo
Alignment or Alliances: none at present
Other Foreign Affairs of Note: friendly towards Britain and the Soviet Union

Government
Type of Government Unitary Oligarchic Republic
Head of Government Pierre Taittinger of the foregoing mention
Ideologies: populism, national irredentism, militarism

Economy
Main Exports: aircraft parts, coal, steel, beverages
Main Imports: oil, aluminium, chemicals
Other information: France operates some of the largest synthetic-fuel plants in the world as a result of concerns over continuing German sabotage attempts of the rearmament. Gee, I wonder why…?

Population and people
Population: ca. 39,962,000
Main National Culture: French
Accepted Cultures: Algerian, Catalan, Corsican
Cultures: n/a
Cultures scapegoated, or just asking to be scapegoated Germans, Italians
National Language(s): French
Recognized Languages: none
Minority Languages: Catalan
Main religion(s): Roman Catholicism
Minority Religions: Protestantism

Military
Ground Forces:
The French state of 1938 practices general conscription both for the military and industrial sphere this leaves it with a reasonably trained military backed up by a disproportionately large productive capacity, focused on supplying the ground forces, which are primarily extensive. Fortunately France only has to defend a single front.
Naval Forces:
In the absence of colonies, the Navy has essentially been abandoned, left to play with a grand total in large vessels of a single battleship, three frigates, and a grand navy of twelve submarines divided into three squadrons. Most of the navy's strength now comes from high-speed torpedo boats dotted around the country's ports.
Air Forces:
The primary mission of the French Army Air Department is air interdiction, as CAS roles are primarily fulfilled by artillery and strategic bombing has been given little thought beyond how to counter it (a role primarily fulfilled by trailing AAA units and permanent AAA emplacements around cities.)

Other
History: -germany won ww1
-the french people did not enjoy losing much of their territory
-political turmoil led to the emergence of various nationalist parties in the country
-Pierre Taittinger creates the Front National, one of a hundred new parties
-by 1922, the Front National (no relation) had assumed control of the nation's government and began re-industrialising the french state
-while this concerned the German authorities, the new government made assurances of no intended aggression towards germany
-this was mostly confirmed by the demobilisation of infantry elements along the border, followed by essentially full investment of capital in industry
-by 1st of July 1934, French (infantry) forces overrun Belgian France, reclaiming that portion of stolen territory
-3rd of April 1935, Charles de Gaulle is appointed as Chief of Army Reform
-france made diplomatic overtures to Germany for the return of it's eastern borders, but was rejected :c
-by late 1935 the French General staff had agreed to almost completely forego naval technology in favour of ensuring total dominance on the ground
-in 1936 requirements for greater production leads to a unified "General Tank" project fulfilled by the Somua S35, a design featuring christie suspension. This also allows for expanded production of the Mdl. 1927 semi-automatic rifle, which begins to see issuance among all ground units
-in 1938 rearmament continues apace with the Dewoitine-designed "Etenard-V" fighter aircraft (officially designated a crop duster) entering service. The French government has built up significant hidden stockpiles of resources in preparation for a general war begun by German aggression. Everything in the French state as a whole seems to be going fairly well, with the authoritarian government keeping a tight grip over the press.
Any other things you might want to note: sorry haff to ruin the central powers wank party
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[The New Lowlands]

nice

[Epraria]

Ok so what's the status of Britain?

[Segmentia]

Ok so what's the status of Britain?

Taken

[Of The Rnclave]

State and Diplomacy
[Short] Name of State: Free States of America
Native Name of State: Free States of America, or FSA
[Complete] Name of State: Free States of America
Flag/Banner/Seal:


Flag:

(Image)

Seal:

(Image)

Head of State: Eugene Debs
Territory:

(Image)

Claimed Territory: The Free States claim Canada as their own, but no one accepts this claim but the Generals of the Military
Protectorates, Vassal States, etc: (If you are a Dominion/Protectorate/Vassal State, please mention your protector)
Alignment or Alliances: Allied with all Communist states/ Socialist States
Other Foreign Affairs of Note: The FSA early in after the elections putting them into power, decided to stay isolated and slowly dip the tentacles of Socialism into other small nations of North America and Africa, introducing them to the idea, placing the propaganda within the minds of the Working class, along with the poorer people. These ideals stuck well with them, leading to many a revolution, some worked some were beaten and the principal economic systems restored.

Government
Type of Government Federal Semi-Presidential Socialist Oligarchy
Head of Government Eugene V. Debs
Ideologies: Classic Marxism

Economy
Main Exports:Iron and Steel, Gum and Resins, Other Manufactured Products, Agricultural Products
Main Imports: Oil, Gas, Metal
Other information:The FSA is a textbook Socialist nation, their reforms passed having severely increased the Working classes situation, as well as almost abolishing classes. The Factory funds bill, passed in 1925, used government subsidies to reopen almost 1,000 closing factories, as well as putting these factories under government control, which meant by 1935, the government controlled 30% of manufacturing and the resources with which to produce things. The Better Farms bill, gave the government complete control of Commercial farming, using this power they expanded these farms to be some of the biggest companies in the US, also the government began a process of increasing American manufacturing and agricultural output by 50%, these extra goods being sold to poorer countries, albeit at lower prices, but giving them even more income. Staring in 1925, following the first official election of a socialist to office, the USA began a series of "5 Year plans" ( Working like the USSR's IRL, without the purges ) these 5 Year plans were known for jump starting the economy, and saving the FSA in 1929, from a terrible recession, these plans have put the FSA in an economic boom since 1930, and have made the FSA one if the top economies in the world, and a lifeline to many smaller nations.

Population and people
Population: 130,000,000
Main National Culture: Western/ English
Accepted Cultures: Native American, Latin American, Afro-American
Cultures: Russian, German, Anglo-Saxon
Cultures scapegoated, or just asking to be scapegoated Asian, blamed for problems in labour
National Language(s): English
Recognized Languages: Spanish, German, Russian, French, Italian
Minority Languages: Chinese, Japanese and most Asiatic languages
Main religion(s): Roman Catholic, Protestant
Minority Religions: Vodoo, Mormon

Military
Ground Forces:

US Army:

Active: 250,000
Reserve: 450,000
Tanks: 3,000
Artillery Pieces: 3,500
Main Rifle: M1 Garand
Main Tank: M3 Lee
Training:(1-10) 7( Above Average)
Equipment:(1-10)6( Above Average )

USMC:
Active: 120,000
Reserve: 80,000
Tanks: 1,000
Artillery Pieces: 500
Main Rifle: M1903 Springfield
Main Tank: M3 Lee
Training:(1-10) 9
Equipment:(1-10) 5






Naval Forces:

The Naval forces of the FSA are more dedicated to Trade Protection then projecting American power worldwide. Because of their dedication to protecting their trade, all US Naval bases are always on high alert and ready to go at anytime, in the rare occurrence that the US trade is attacked.

Battleships: 60
Destroyers: 30
Frigates: 50
Submersibles: 50
Aircraft Carriers: 2
Training:(1-10) 4
Equipment:(1-10) 6



Air Forces:

Interceptors: 120
Short-Range Bombers: 20
Medium-Range Bombers: 40
Long-Range Bombers: 80
Training:(1-10) 3
Equipment:(1-10) 5



Other
History:

1918: A minute of silence is announced from the steps of the White House after word of British-French defeat reaches the USA, the Anglo-Saxon nation boils in rage silently, stepping silently even more from the world stage after this tragic war. Small panic begins to spread in the US of a American-German war, but these fears are quelled with German actions after the war,and the weakness of the German state afterwards.

1919: Under popular demands from the Republicans to build a standing military in the case of a Second Great War, the Democrats cave and pass a bill expanding the military. The Army expands to 250,000 and several other branches expirence similar expansions. This year also see's a dip in the American economy, not a severe dip but one noticeable enough to reach the news.

1920: The American people watch in fear as the economy once again dips the year charcterized more by the constant up and down of the American economy more than anything else, but with some work, the Democrat-Republican congress manage to grasp back control of the economy, slowly standing it back up and strengthening it. A new party is formed, the Worker's Party of America, a party that quickly gains ground in the Middle and Lower class, but is detested by the Upper, due to their policies removing them from such high social status.

1924: Upton Sinclair, the presidential canidate of the Workers Party, is shot on the day of his enuguration, by a Hit man funded by a previously popular Upper class sportsman. A mob of angry Workers party supporters charged the mans mansion, mutilating the man and hanging him from a lamp post on his street. This night was refered to nationwide as the Night of burning banks, as almost 15,000 Workers party supporters took to the streets, burning down the Banks they believed carried the Upper classes funds, the funds were pooled in the street and set ablaze, as well as the banks that held them, the Bank workers hung and set ablaze as well. For 3 weeks everynight the Socialist took to the streets in extremely violent riots, recorded as some of the worst in history. The army as called to quell these riots, a force of 5,000 supporters took to the streets, digging trenches outside of cities and stringing farm barbwire across large expanses of land. The Socialists armed with hunting rifles and an assortment of weapons fought off the Army for 9 days, before a large infantry charge overwhelmed them, and a gas attack drove them from the city. National outrage followed, the use of force enraged millions, even more refusing to go to work the next day or pay taxes until the government fixed the situation.

1925-1927: California, now considered the most liberal and socialist state in the union, declared independance, Workers Part supporters flocking to the state by the thousands, a ragtag Army o Farmers and Labouers was thrown together and given military rifles. The US Army was mobilized, 60,000 men heading to California, or the Californian Peoples Union, propaganda posters consisting of images of the Soldiers riding in vehicles holding rifles and laughing and cheering was passed around, giving more hate to the USA. The first battle was in Los Angleas, the soldiers allowed to pass through without knowledge of the Cali Army waiting for them in the city. The battle lasted 2 days, the humiliated US army quickly pushed almost completly out of California within 2 weeks. Although the Army regrouped and pushed back in again, more and more men were sacrificed to the meat grinder as the Army continued trying to wrestle control of the State back. The final descive war was not in California, but in New York, a group of Anarcho-Socialists burst bombs in the Stock exchange and all over big corporations throughout New York, crippling the already strained economy. These attacks continued throughout the US until the Army met the Californians in Las Vegas, a Californian Army of 10,000 fought a police force and militia of 2,500. The bloodiest Urban warfare battle in US History followed as gruesome attacks began being fought in close quarters. But in the end, California managed to win it's independance, the weakened USA unwilling to continue fighting it's own people.

1928: Life in the USA continued, albeit more strictly, as nationwide Martial law was declared in order to get a grip upon it's citizens after the War. While these actions were supposed to quell the Red Fever running wild throughout the US, these actions only served to anger the people more, as almost 50% of the Population now identified with the Workers Party cause, California only serving to increase these problems. California sensing the USA's weakness moved and absorbed Nevada and Arizona, forming what they called the rightful US government, the Free States of America, a Federal Presidential Socialist Oligarchy. The freedoms guarnteed by the new nation enticed million to flock to it, the symbol of freedom created more correctly lined up with their image of the USA then the actual USA did.

1929-1931: The Great depression begins. The collapse of the economy serves to show only one thing to the FSA, that the USA was not the rightful government. The now professionally trained army began the march east, capturing every state they could grab, most just simply joining the FSA. The US Army, while fighting to the last man, was hopelessly outclassed by the FSA, focus in the USA having moved to the economy, while the superior FSA economy allowed for some money to the military. The War of Free State Unification ended in 1931, with D.C. being gassed and the politicans within beheaded by angry citizens. While in San Fransisco, Eugene V. Debs proclaimed victory from the steps of the new White House, Unification complete. While the war was successful, the Depressions's effects did not ignore the FSA, bills passed in the FSA were passed in the new territory they had gotten, such as the Factory Funds bill, opening nearly 1,000 closing factories and putting them under the governments control. These bills were accepted greatly by the populace. With this, the first 5 Year Plan was passed ( Similar to the USSR's) this plan was to centralize the economy and put more focus on industry, the first plan expanded industry by 50%, as well as reducing imports of foreign goods by 30%. The plans main idea was to convert the economy to an almost textbook Marxist economy, albeit with a few changes to fit the American people. This plan also called for the purging of those responsible for the USA's collapse, the the plan was followed through with.

1936: The First 5 year plan finishes with untold success. The plan works so well that 3 more are passed for the following 15 years. Life in the FSA had become more than anyone could ask, the freedoms guarnteed by them more than any other nation in the world. The economy had returned to being one of the greatest in the world, the Free States had become a Marxist paradise, that would have made Karl Marx himself weep. The Army was expanded and modernized, the Springfield being replaced with the M1 Garand. Because of the actions undertaken by the USA, the Army was limited to 250,000 during peace. The Navy expirenced the greatest expansion it had gotten in history, with many ships being built to protect American trade.

1937-1938: Industry in the FSA reaches levels that are revered worldwide for their expert ability and quality, as the FSA came to be one of the strongest economies worldwide, it's power unmatched. This news was announced by President Eugene V. Debs from the steps of the White House, waht followed was 3 days of celebration unseen by the Free States in a long time


Any other things you might want to note: Nope
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111 - Please don't remove

If anything needs changed tell me

History......
1918.... that's kinda stretching it, but sure, passes.
1919 For one, nobody, bloody nobody, has expected or will expect a second Great War (possibly in the last three-ish years of the background, depending on how the world is). Before that, nobody will do so.
Germany is busy recovering and policing gains. The US is the US, Monroe and all that - which has been confirmed and stabilized by Germany dropping by with that surprise present. Britain is Britain and the continent already mostly is lost, France has been crushed for the next few many years, Russia was busy infighting, and Japan barely was considered a Great Power at that Time. Italy got pegged down a notch as well. Austria-hungary, while not having as many gains as germany, has expanded into ethnicities and has to get its homefront in order. Bulgaria is small, the Ottomans are sickly.... anybody I missed?
Everybody considered the Weltkrieg, the Great War, as the War to end all Wars.
And even if that'd be reason for expansion, it'd be mostly for the Navy, I think.
1920 - Assuming the Economy is gained control of, which seems reasonable as - if I understand correctly - this is just a normal minor tilt, why the heck would that cause widespread socialism? That's not what causes socialism. Look at WW1 Russia. That can cause socialism. At Interwar Germany's hyper-inflation. That can cause socialism as well. Minor economic issues that the government quickly gets under control do not cause socialism

Also, Democrat-Republican congress?
1924 - I think the army would be called in before 3 weeks of permanent Riots, or at least the National Guards would be.
Government uses gas to strike rebels = Outrage - Let's remember that for later. Also, infantry charge? The US was neutral in WW1 meaning they most likely had some sort of observers. They will not be dumb enough to repeat a mistake, not when dealing with an surrounded uprising. Either they dig in themselves and wait it out, or they shell them into submission, or they copycat Stormtrooper Breakthroughs. Or gas, but that'd be insane to use inside a city. Part seems to hint at them being outside of the city in that case it weights even more for the army.

1925 - 1927
There's only so many guns California can hand out. Assuming the whole Californian National Guard sides with the secessionists they have access to the 40th Infantry Brigade Combat Team.
That means two battalions of Infantry meaning up to 2400 troops. One Squadron of Cavalry, a Battalion of Field Artillery as well as one battalion of support and special troops each.
That is maximally 9600 troops, of which 2400 would be infantry, 1200 would be Cavalry, 1200 would be Field Artillery with the rest being support and special troops. That is in the best case. Worst case the total is 1800 because that's how US Battalions can vary and because I didn't find any numbers for Cali's National Guard in 1917-19 or the 40th Infantry at the same time. That'd be the equipment and Military-Grade weapons available. Everything beyond that is private stores. And this is bloody assuming not a single Californian national guardist is a Unionist and blows up the ammunition stores.

But ok, 60,000 soldiers head for the US. They spread posters, sure. I could even see that pissing off those who disagree with their cause, but they'd be pissed anyway.
The troops reach Los Angeles. Ok, then they don't know of the troops there. But that'd be also a reason for them having Cavalry units(which even the National Guard has, so they'd have as well). To ride in and scout out. If the cavalry comes back they know where the enemy is in town, if it doesn't they know it is somewhere in the the city. But ok, assuming they don't do that. And still don't know of the troops. 1920s population of LA was slightly more than half a million. Let's assume that 10% of the whole population somehow raise up arms and decide to join the cause so early. That's 50,000 additional combatants, but most if not all without combat experience. Unless they somehow all got disciplined and perfect communications they will not manage a proper ambush, breaking somewhere. Unless the US troops are overly stupid they can take those on. And if they see they can't they retreat and, considering popular support, shell the city into submission (I'd assume they'd target areas of submission, but I doubt untrained volunteers with private arms only would hold too long under shelling. If they leave cover and assault the US outside they are dead meat, without being able to hide and such they'd be massacred by the numerically superior Federals who outgun them and have proper training.
But let's say that the general was the definition of an idiot, who doesn't scout, doesn't retreat from an ambush, and doesn't use his artillery against entrenched enemies. Let's say he even somehow is completely pushed out of the city within two days. How the heck is he pushed back of the state withing two weeks. Unless he just sent his men into Machinegun fire (with the US having been neutral, I assume they could have had observers in WW1 just as Germany had in the Spanish-American War, learning of the idiocy of infantry charges), there's no way he lost that much so quickly for his position to be unholdable outside of the city. At least, I significantly doubt it. He'd entrench on the first hill, use cavalry to inform himself of rebel movements towards him, park the artillery, and batter aggressors down the hill saving his infantry for closer ranges until rebel morale breaks. (Still the same issue of them being untrained troops with maybe LA as experience).

But let's say that he got pushed out of Cali within two weeks. How the hell is marching back in a meatgrinder? There's no way in hell the rebels can man a proper trench-defense along the whole border, meaning that there's no way they can prevent Unionists into the states. Once they break through, all trenches not inwards are irrelevant. So it's not that. Then maybe in the cities? If so, please refer to the battle of LA. Also, you'd be assuming no village would be unionists and would sabotage local secessionists in order to get the US troops through (and maybe simply so that they spare them shelling or such). But let's indeed assume that the US is beaten out and can't get in, and that somehow all bombings succeed and that after the first one the Police and Army just let it pass instead of doing something effective.
How the hell do 10,000 Californians catch 2,500 police in a border state. By now, according to what you described, the US would be at war in a scale of the Civil War, during which the US had over 2,000,000 troops. (I have no idea how many from Cali, but let's say 100,000 and give the US 2 million exactly). Then there are the troops from "Confederate" states which are loyalists now. An additional million, and all of that a good 50 years before this happens. The US can and will surround Cali with proper troops. (Maybe not actual full trenches like in France, but Army fortifications in certain distances, short enough to screen what is between - I'd assume. So no, 10,000 Calis just wandering through and meeting 2,500 cops in Vegas does not work.
And assuming it does happen, and that the Calis win before US reinforecements arrive (which wouldn't happen) why the heck would the US surrender? The US didn't surrender in the Civil War, and that was against quite a lot of states with half their manpower, compared to this single state whose largest city has half a million in total population.

I could continue forward, each time starting my issues again with "But let's say" or "But let's assume", but honestly I can't be assed to do so. Neither will I look deeper into anything else until the US is somewhat realistic. I mean, Buj's app went against the US people, but it didn't have stupid generals. Which seems to be something now.

Also, if I caused offense with some of the commentary, that was really not my intention. I just have this thing with attempting to keep this timeline at least somewhat realistic, with which this kinda conflicts. It might be good for a different sort of rp, though not quite for this one.

I think that's the longest feedback I ever made for a single app.

Alright so what areas are open? Because the rooster doesn't seem up to date.

The roster is updated, technically. After expiration of a reservations I decided that i'll determine things by quality, meaning that technically all those (not there) are open - though many of those will have rpers having applied for them.

Expect a fixed and more realistic history tonight, I was tired and now that I look back at it, Cali against the USA is a pipe dream, impossible actually, I'll fix the history and get another up, this will be my last attempt, I'll make it count, reserve the USA till Saturday please

[Epraria]

Ok so what's the status of Britain?

Taken

Ok so is it Democratic, Socialist or right-wing dictatorship.

[The Jonathanian States]

germoney is ded

WIP

State and Diplomacy
[Short] Name of State: france
Native Name of State: hon hon hon baguette
[Complete] Name of State: Republic of France
Flag/Banner/Seal: flag [url=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Armoiries_république_française.svg]seal[/url]
Head of State: Maréchal Pierre Taittinger
Territory: basically the territories indicated on the map
Claimed Territory: basically everything the germans/italians stole from us + wallonia (albeit not necessarily openly)
Protectorates, Vassal States, etc: gtfo
Alignment or Alliances: none at present
Other Foreign Affairs of Note: friendly towards Britain and the Soviet Union

Government
Type of Government Unitary Oligarchic Republic
Head of Government Pierre Taittinger of the foregoing mention
Ideologies: populism, national irredentism, militarism

Economy
Main Exports: aircraft parts, coal, steel, beverages
Main Imports: oil, aluminium, chemicals
Other information: France operates some of the largest synthetic-fuel plants in the world as a result of concerns over continuing German sabotage attempts of the rearmament. Gee, I wonder why…?

Population and people
Population: ca. 39,962,000
Main National Culture: French
Accepted Cultures: Algerian, Catalan, Corsican
Cultures: n/a
Cultures scapegoated, or just asking to be scapegoated Germans, Italians
National Language(s): French
Recognized Languages: none
Minority Languages: Catalan
Main religion(s): Roman Catholicism
Minority Religions: Protestantism

Military
Ground Forces:
The French state of 1938 practices general conscription both for the military and industrial sphere this leaves it with a reasonably trained military backed up by a disproportionately large productive capacity, focused on supplying the ground forces, which are primarily extensive. Fortunately France only has to defend a single front.
Naval Forces:
In the absence of colonies, the Navy has essentially been abandoned, left to play with a grand total in large vessels of a single battleship, three frigates, and a grand navy of twelve submarines divided into three squadrons. Most of the navy's strength now comes from high-speed torpedo boats dotted around the country's ports.
Air Forces:
The primary mission of the French Army Air Department is air interdiction, as CAS roles are primarily fulfilled by artillery and strategic bombing has been given little thought beyond how to counter it (a role primarily fulfilled by trailing AAA units and permanent AAA emplacements around cities.)

Other
History: -germany won ww1
-the french people did not enjoy losing much of their territory
-political turmoil led to the emergence of various nationalist parties in the country
-Pierre Taittinger creates the Front National, one of a hundred new parties
-by 1922, the Front National (no relation) had assumed control of the nation's government and began re-industrialising the french state
-while this concerned the German authorities, the new government made assurances of no intended aggression towards germany
-this was mostly confirmed by the demobilisation of infantry elements along the border, followed by essentially full investment of capital in industry
-by 1st of July 1934, French (infantry) forces overrun Belgian France, reclaiming that portion of stolen territory
-3rd of April 1935, Charles de Gaulle is appointed as Chief of Army Reform
-france made diplomatic overtures to Germany for the return of it's eastern borders, but was rejected :c
-by late 1935 the French General staff had agreed to almost completely forego naval technology in favour of ensuring total dominance on the ground
-in 1936 requirements for greater production leads to a unified "General Tank" project fulfilled by the Somua S35, a design featuring christie suspension. This also allows for expanded production of the Mdl. 1927 semi-automatic rifle, which begins to see issuance among all ground units
-in 1938 rearmament continues apace with the Dewoitine-designed "Etenard-V" fighter aircraft (officially designated a crop duster) entering service. The French government has built up significant hidden stockpiles of resources in preparation for a general war begun by German aggression. Everything in the French state as a whole seems to be going fairly well, with the authoritarian government keeping a tight grip over the press.
Any other things you might want to note: sorry haff to ruin the central powers wank party
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111 - Please don't remove

Is that a joke or not?

Jon, what do you say to us and our puppets adopting a common currently post-war? I think it could really help us.

call it the Euro

Call it the Super German Currency to Outmatch All Other Currency. Or, SGCOAOO.

YUS! Or even better. Superdeutschewährungssupremitätwahrungswährung. Or the SDWSWW. In english: Super-German Currency for preserving Currency Supremancy. (The order isn't quite the same in german).

I'll go with a pro-Germany parliamentary republic that is increasingly dominated by the Action Francaise députés and senators, who are agitating for the government to pressure Germany into returning Meurthe-et-Moselle, Belfort, and Vosges, or to pressure Belgium into returning Nord-Pas-de-Calais. The Action Francaise are having some luck in reawakening the dormant ultranationalism in the French people, and have managed to expand the French industrial and military base significantly in the past few years.

I'm also planning on having the French Third Republic collapse immediately after the war -- 1920 or so -- and the successor state of the Fourth Republic refuse to pay the reparations in full (before collapsing in an attempted Socialist/Communist coup d'etat), resulting in the current Fifth French Republic.

Interesting.... If France cooperates in the future and such, I think Germany would tolerate the latter being permitted or even pressure for it themselves, but until then I doubt they'd allow Belgium to give in and decline anything regarding Germany proper.

East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere, though. -nod-

lol

europe best continent

most civilized

Obviously.

lol

europe best continent

most civilized

Only the British and French parts aren't.

Fix'd.

Mostly....as in? Are you interested? I can move to a less crucial location if you wish to have a France, no problemo, amigo.

I'm interested in it, but not interested enough to compete with another interested person

although i'd prefer it if you tried to fix europe

"fix" I think it's fine as is. Maybe we have to remove some kebab and install different kebab, federate a bit, but mostly it's quite fine as is.

nice

What is?

History......
1918.... that's kinda stretching it, but sure, passes.
1919 For one, nobody, bloody nobody, has expected or will expect a second Great War (possibly in the last three-ish years of the background, depending on how the world is). Before that, nobody will do so.
Germany is busy recovering and policing gains. The US is the US, Monroe and all that - which has been confirmed and stabilized by Germany dropping by with that surprise present. Britain is Britain and the continent already mostly is lost, France has been crushed for the next few many years, Russia was busy infighting, and Japan barely was considered a Great Power at that Time. Italy got pegged down a notch as well. Austria-hungary, while not having as many gains as germany, has expanded into ethnicities and has to get its homefront in order. Bulgaria is small, the Ottomans are sickly.... anybody I missed?
Everybody considered the Weltkrieg, the Great War, as the War to end all Wars.
And even if that'd be reason for expansion, it'd be mostly for the Navy, I think.
1920 - Assuming the Economy is gained control of, which seems reasonable as - if I understand correctly - this is just a normal minor tilt, why the heck would that cause widespread socialism? That's not what causes socialism. Look at WW1 Russia. That can cause socialism. At Interwar Germany's hyper-inflation. That can cause socialism as well. Minor economic issues that the government quickly gets under control do not cause socialism

Also, Democrat-Republican congress?
1924 - I think the army would be called in before 3 weeks of permanent Riots, or at least the National Guards would be.
Government uses gas to strike rebels = Outrage - Let's remember that for later. Also, infantry charge? The US was neutral in WW1 meaning they most likely had some sort of observers. They will not be dumb enough to repeat a mistake, not when dealing with an surrounded uprising. Either they dig in themselves and wait it out, or they shell them into submission, or they copycat Stormtrooper Breakthroughs. Or gas, but that'd be insane to use inside a city. Part seems to hint at them being outside of the city in that case it weights even more for the army.

1925 - 1927
There's only so many guns California can hand out. Assuming the whole Californian National Guard sides with the secessionists they have access to the 40th Infantry Brigade Combat Team.
That means two battalions of Infantry meaning up to 2400 troops. One Squadron of Cavalry, a Battalion of Field Artillery as well as one battalion of support and special troops each.
That is maximally 9600 troops, of which 2400 would be infantry, 1200 would be Cavalry, 1200 would be Field Artillery with the rest being support and special troops. That is in the best case. Worst case the total is 1800 because that's how US Battalions can vary and because I didn't find any numbers for Cali's National Guard in 1917-19 or the 40th Infantry at the same time. That'd be the equipment and Military-Grade weapons available. Everything beyond that is private stores. And this is bloody assuming not a single Californian national guardist is a Unionist and blows up the ammunition stores.

But ok, 60,000 soldiers head for the US. They spread posters, sure. I could even see that pissing off those who disagree with their cause, but they'd be pissed anyway.
The troops reach Los Angeles. Ok, then they don't know of the troops there. But that'd be also a reason for them having Cavalry units(which even the National Guard has, so they'd have as well). To ride in and scout out. If the cavalry comes back they know where the enemy is in town, if it doesn't they know it is somewhere in the the city. But ok, assuming they don't do that. And still don't know of the troops. 1920s population of LA was slightly more than half a million. Let's assume that 10% of the whole population somehow raise up arms and decide to join the cause so early. That's 50,000 additional combatants, but most if not all without combat experience. Unless they somehow all got disciplined and perfect communications they will not manage a proper ambush, breaking somewhere. Unless the US troops are overly stupid they can take those on. And if they see they can't they retreat and, considering popular support, shell the city into submission (I'd assume they'd target areas of submission, but I doubt untrained volunteers with private arms only would hold too long under shelling. If they leave cover and assault the US outside they are dead meat, without being able to hide and such they'd be massacred by the numerically superior Federals who outgun them and have proper training.
But let's say that the general was the definition of an idiot, who doesn't scout, doesn't retreat from an ambush, and doesn't use his artillery against entrenched enemies. Let's say he even somehow is completely pushed out of the city within two days. How the heck is he pushed back of the state withing two weeks. Unless he just sent his men into Machinegun fire (with the US having been neutral, I assume they could have had observers in WW1 just as Germany had in the Spanish-American War, learning of the idiocy of infantry charges), there's no way he lost that much so quickly for his position to be unholdable outside of the city. At least, I significantly doubt it. He'd entrench on the first hill, use cavalry to inform himself of rebel movements towards him, park the artillery, and batter aggressors down the hill saving his infantry for closer ranges until rebel morale breaks. (Still the same issue of them being untrained troops with maybe LA as experience).

But let's say that he got pushed out of Cali within two weeks. How the hell is marching back in a meatgrinder? There's no way in hell the rebels can man a proper trench-defense along the whole border, meaning that there's no way they can prevent Unionists into the states. Once they break through, all trenches not inwards are irrelevant. So it's not that. Then maybe in the cities? If so, please refer to the battle of LA. Also, you'd be assuming no village would be unionists and would sabotage local secessionists in order to get the US troops through (and maybe simply so that they spare them shelling or such). But let's indeed assume that the US is beaten out and can't get in, and that somehow all bombings succeed and that after the first one the Police and Army just let it pass instead of doing something effective.
How the hell do 10,000 Californians catch 2,500 police in a border state. By now, according to what you described, the US would be at war in a scale of the Civil War, during which the US had over 2,000,000 troops. (I have no idea how many from Cali, but let's say 100,000 and give the US 2 million exactly). Then there are the troops from "Confederate" states which are loyalists now. An additional million, and all of that a good 50 years before this happens. The US can and will surround Cali with proper troops. (Maybe not actual full trenches like in France, but Army fortifications in certain distances, short enough to screen what is between - I'd assume. So no, 10,000 Calis just wandering through and meeting 2,500 cops in Vegas does not work.
And assuming it does happen, and that the Calis win before US reinforecements arrive (which wouldn't happen) why the heck would the US surrender? The US didn't surrender in the Civil War, and that was against quite a lot of states with half their manpower, compared to this single state whose largest city has half a million in total population.

I could continue forward, each time starting my issues again with "But let's say" or "But let's assume", but honestly I can't be assed to do so. Neither will I look deeper into anything else until the US is somewhat realistic. I mean, Buj's app went against the US people, but it didn't have stupid generals. Which seems to be something now.

Also, if I caused offense with some of the commentary, that was really not my intention. I just have this thing with attempting to keep this timeline at least somewhat realistic, with which this kinda conflicts. It might be good for a different sort of rp, though not quite for this one.

I think that's the longest feedback I ever made for a single app.

The roster is updated, technically. After expiration of a reservations I decided that i'll determine things by quality, meaning that technically all those (not there) are open - though many of those will have rpers having applied for them.

Expect a fixed and more realistic history tonight, I was tired and now that I look back at it, Cali against the USA is a pipe dream, impossible actually, I'll fix the history and get another up, this will be my last attempt, I'll make it count, reserve the USA till Saturday please

Still not going to reserve it again, but otherwise sure.

[Liecthenbourg]

Taken

Ok so is it Democratic, Socialist or right-wing dictatorship.

It's the:
The Divine, Glorious and Holy, People's Imperial Democratic Trading Republic of the Oligarchical Kingdom of the British Fascist State.

[Epraria]

Ok so is it Democratic, Socialist or right-wing dictatorship.

It's the:
The Divine, Glorious and Holy, People's Imperial Democratic Trading Republic of the Oligarchical Kingdom of the British Fascist State.

Hmm I see. At least the British still retained their sense for overlong names.

[Bujahla]

Maybe I make the 1934 attempted fascist coup in the US succeed??

[Of The Rnclave]

Maybe I make the 1934 attempted fascist coup in the US succeed??

Go for it, I'll have my app up by tonight, let the best app win, which you'll probably do

[Liecthenbourg]

It's the:
The Divine, Glorious and Holy, People's Imperial Democratic Trading Republic of the Oligarchical Kingdom of the British Fascist State.

Hmm I see. At least the British still retained their sense for overlong names.

I wasn't serious.

[Epraria]

Hmm I see. At least the British still retained their sense for overlong names.

I wasn't serious.

Neither was I.

[Imperium Nova]

I wasn't serious.

Neither was I.

I'd think that the OP is pretty much up to date on what is taken and what not. I would also assume that the reservations are removed once their time limit is up.

[The Jonathanian States]

Maybe I make the 1934 attempted fascist coup in the US succeed??

That could be interesting. To be honest, except for I think once hearing that coup's name I have no actual knowledge about it, meaning that reviewing the app - as so often - will make me actually learn stuff.
And that's how you properly learn interesting history: Let others do mistakes in it

Neither was I.

I'd think that the OP is pretty much up to date on what is taken and what not. I would also assume that the reservations are removed once their time limit is up.

This, more or less. Well, yes, as I said.

[Caltarania]

I wasn't serious.

Neither was I.

It'd be funny if the US had a name similar to the UK, e.g instead of 'Britain' 'Great Britain and Northern Ireland'. I'd crap myself every time a President addressed other nations.

"I, President Barack Obama, represent the United States of Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming and hereby... uhm... wait what was I saying again?"

[Epraria]

Also what was this USSA?
A commie America?

[Bujahla]

Maybe I make the 1934 attempted fascist coup in the US succeed??

That could be interesting. To be honest, except for I think once hearing that coup's name I have no actual knowledge about it, meaning that reviewing the app - as so often - will make me actually learn stuff.
And that's how you properly learn interesting history: Let others do mistakes in it

I'd think that the OP is pretty much up to date on what is taken and what not. I would also assume that the reservations are removed once their time limit is up.

This, more or less. Well, yes, as I said.

Same I'd have to research as well.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

That could be interesting. To be honest, except for I think once hearing that coup's name I have no actual knowledge about it, meaning that reviewing the app - as so often - will make me actually learn stuff.
And that's how you properly learn interesting history: Let others do mistakes in it

This, more or less. Well, yes, as I said.

Same I'd have to research as well.

The business plot?