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Postby Imperium Nova » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:54 am

Bujahla wrote:
Auroya wrote:We totally should create a proto-EU, yes.

We should have a conference creating that somewhere early in the RP. It would be awesome.

and pave the way for federalization


There should be a League of nations IMO.

Well, if I recall correctly one of Germany's goals after the war was to establish some proto-EU single market zone so that the German economy could easier expand into other nations. Not sure how interested Germany and Austria-Hungary would have been to set up a League of Nations after the war though.

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Postby Auroya » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:55 am

The Jonathanian States wrote:Aye, then Verdun is french. *raises glass* To Verdun, may its fields be bloodied by inter-European warfare no more.


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Postby Bujahla » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:55 am

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Liecthenbourg wrote:Then France wins Verdun, it lasted until Dec 1916.

Aye, then Verdun is french. *raises glass* To Verdun, may its fields be bloodied by inter-European warfare no more.
Segmentia wrote:Well, guess I'll have absolutely nothing to do on the Continent. *Blockades everywhere!*

I think Russia might like you. Sweden is kinda neutral, Norway probably is standing on stilts between Germany and Britain. Portugal also is your best buddy, most likely.
Auroya wrote:We totally should create a proto-EU, yes.

We should have a conference creating that somewhere early in the RP. It would be awesome.

and pave the way for federalization

It's a possibility.
Bujahla wrote:
There should be a League of nations IMO.

Eh... that was more Wilson's project and he's out of the war now.


Yes. But I just feel like something should be done about the Middle Europe threat to make the RP more balanced. Like seriously, the win the war and then they continue to be super militant and don't disarm much and are just not gonna be super aggressive against the Entente powers. Like it kind of makes the RP harder if they are still strong (which of course they are) but that they haven't done what the British and French did and just tone down the rhetoric.
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Imperium Nova
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Postby Imperium Nova » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:56 am

Also, was there ever a Great Depression in this timeline, or how did the post-war economy turn out?

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Postby Epraria » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:57 am

Well hi jon. Any free areas?
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:57 am

If there is a LoN/UN/whatever, may Siam be a member?
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Postby Auroya » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:58 am

Jon, what do you say to us and our puppets adopting a common currently post-war? I think it could really help us.

call it the Euro
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Postby Segmentia » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:00 am

As I remember, Russia plans on going isolationist.
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Postby Caltarania » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:01 am

Auroya wrote:We totally should create a proto-EU, yes.

We should have a conference creating that somewhere early in the RP. It would be awesome.

and pave the way for federalization


ew

East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere, though. -nod-

Auroya wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Aye, then Verdun is french. *raises glass* To Verdun, may its fields be bloodied by inter-European warfare no more.


To the glory of Europa, kameraden!


ew

Auroya wrote:Jon, what do you say to us and our puppets adopting a common currently post-war? I think it could really help us.

call it the Euro


Oh, please do.

It'll be funny to watch your currency fail. :3
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Postby The New Lowlands » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:01 am

germoney is ded

WIP

State and Diplomacy
[Short] Name of State: france
Native Name of State: hon hon hon baguette
[Complete] Name of State: Republic of France
Flag/Banner/Seal: flag [url=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Armoiries_république_française.svg]seal[/url]
Head of State: Maréchal Pierre Taittinger
Territory: basically the territories indicated on the map
Claimed Territory: basically everything the germans/italians stole from us + wallonia (albeit not necessarily openly)
Protectorates, Vassal States, etc: gtfo
Alignment or Alliances: none at present
Other Foreign Affairs of Note: friendly towards Britain and the Soviet Union

Government
Type of Government Unitary Oligarchic Republic
Head of Government Pierre Taittinger of the foregoing mention
Ideologies: populism, national irredentism, militarism

Economy
Main Exports: aircraft parts, coal, steel, beverages
Main Imports: oil, aluminium, chemicals
Other information: France operates some of the largest synthetic-fuel plants in the world as a result of concerns over continuing German sabotage attempts of the rearmament. Gee, I wonder why…?

Population and people
Population: ca. 39,962,000
Main National Culture: French
Accepted Cultures: Algerian, Catalan, Corsican
Cultures: n/a
Cultures scapegoated, or just asking to be scapegoated Germans, Italians
National Language(s): French
Recognized Languages: none
Minority Languages: Catalan
Main religion(s): Roman Catholicism
Minority Religions: Protestantism

Military
Ground Forces:
The French state of 1938 practices general conscription both for the military and industrial sphere this leaves it with a reasonably trained military backed up by a disproportionately large productive capacity, focused on supplying the ground forces, which are primarily extensive. Fortunately France only has to defend a single front.
Naval Forces:
In the absence of colonies, the Navy has essentially been abandoned, left to play with a grand total in large vessels of a single battleship, three frigates, and a grand navy of twelve submarines divided into three squadrons. Most of the navy's strength now comes from high-speed torpedo boats dotted around the country's ports.
Air Forces:
The primary mission of the French Army Air Department is air interdiction, as CAS roles are primarily fulfilled by artillery and strategic bombing has been given little thought beyond how to counter it (a role primarily fulfilled by trailing AAA units and permanent AAA emplacements around cities.)

Other
History: -germany won ww1
-the french people did not enjoy losing much of their territory
-political turmoil led to the emergence of various nationalist parties in the country
-Pierre Taittinger creates the Front National, one of a hundred new parties
-by 1922, the Front National (no relation) had assumed control of the nation's government and began re-industrialising the french state
-while this concerned the German authorities, the new government made assurances of no intended aggression towards germany
-this was mostly confirmed by the demobilisation of infantry elements along the border, followed by essentially full investment of capital in industry
-by 1st of July 1934, French (infantry) forces overrun Belgian France, reclaiming that portion of stolen territory
-3rd of April 1935, Charles de Gaulle is appointed as Chief of Army Reform
-france made diplomatic overtures to Germany for the return of it's eastern borders, but was rejected :c
-by late 1935 the French General staff had agreed to almost completely forego naval technology in favour of ensuring total dominance on the ground
-in 1936 requirements for greater production leads to a unified "General Tank" project fulfilled by the Somua S35, a design featuring christie suspension. This also allows for expanded production of the Mdl. 1927 semi-automatic rifle, which begins to see issuance among all ground units
-in 1938 rearmament continues apace with the Dewoitine-designed "Etenard-V" fighter aircraft (officially designated a crop duster) entering service. The French government has built up significant hidden stockpiles of resources in preparation for a general war begun by German aggression. Everything in the French state as a whole seems to be going fairly well, with the authoritarian government keeping a tight grip over the press.
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Postby Imperium Nova » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:02 am

Auroya wrote:Jon, what do you say to us and our puppets adopting a common currently post-war? I think it could really help us.

call it the Euro

Call it the Super German Currency to Outmatch All Other Currency. Or, SGCOAOO.

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Postby Tylos » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:02 am

I'll go with a pro-Germany parliamentary republic that is increasingly dominated by the Action Francaise députés and senators, who are agitating for the government to pressure Germany into returning Meurthe-et-Moselle, Belfort, and Vosges, or to pressure Belgium into returning Nord-Pas-de-Calais. The Action Francaise are having some luck in reawakening the dormant ultranationalism in the French people, and have managed to expand the French industrial and military base significantly in the past few years.

I'm also planning on having the French Third Republic collapse immediately after the war -- 1920 or so -- and the successor state of the Fourth Republic refuse to pay the reparations in full (before collapsing in an attempted Socialist/Communist coup d'etat), resulting in the current Fifth French Republic.

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Postby Tylos » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:03 am

The New Lowlands wrote:WIP
State and Diplomacy
[Short] Name of State: france


Welp. There goes that.

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Postby The New Lowlands » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:03 am

Tylos wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:WIP
State and Diplomacy
[Short] Name of State: france


Welp. There goes that.

eh, it was mostly a joke

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Postby Auroya » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:03 am

Caltarania wrote:
East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere, though. -nod-



lol

europe best continent

most civilized
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Postby Segmentia » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:04 am

Heh, if France followed real life tank development, you'd have the best armored force in the world.
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Postby Segmentia » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:04 am

Auroya wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere, though. -nod-



lol

europe best continent

most civilized


Only the British and French parts.
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Postby Auroya » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:05 am

Segmentia wrote:
Auroya wrote:
lol

europe best continent

most civilized


Only the British and French parts.


*continental Europe
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Postby Delsola » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:06 am

Delsola wrote:How is the Don Cossack Host so far? Anything I need to incorporate into the history regarding Russia/Ukraine/anything?


Don't want to write a wrong history

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Postby Liecthenbourg » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:07 am

Segmentia wrote:Heh, if France followed real life tank development, you'd have the best armored force in the world.

-sniff-
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The Gaullican Republic,
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Postby Epraria » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:10 am

So what areas are open?
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Myansaland wrote:
HorusLand wrote:How's the revolution going?



I will not pay my taxes this year :p

After all, I recieved a letter from the City of Warsaw recognizing me as an indepedent apartment.


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Postby Tylos » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:11 am

The New Lowlands wrote:
Tylos wrote:
Welp. There goes that.

eh, it was mostly a joke


Mostly....as in? Are you interested? I can move to a less crucial location if you wish to have a France, no problemo, amigo.

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Postby Auroya » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:12 am

Tylos wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:eh, it was mostly a joke


Mostly....as in? Are you interested? I can move to a less crucial location if you wish to have a France, no problemo, amigo.


No, dammit! Mitteleuropa dictates you're staying right here!
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Postby The New Lowlands » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:13 am

Tylos wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:eh, it was mostly a joke


Mostly....as in? Are you interested? I can move to a less crucial location if you wish to have a France, no problemo, amigo.

I'm interested in it, but not interested enough to compete with another interested person

although i'd prefer it if you tried to fix europe

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Postby Liecthenbourg » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:14 am

The New Lowlands wrote:
Tylos wrote:
Mostly....as in? Are you interested? I can move to a less crucial location if you wish to have a France, no problemo, amigo.

I'm interested in it, but not interested enough to compete with another interested person

although i'd prefer it if you tried to fix europe

No Pro-Germans!
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The Transtsabaran Federation and The Chistovodian Workers' State

To understand European history watch these: Cultural erosion, German and Italian history, a brief history of Germany.

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