The Historical RP Group HQ 2

[Reatra]

"Genovese-Papal State"



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France annex you!

nu

I have Le Papa

[The Vekta-Helghast Empire]

Quickly did a run through some of the corrections - so the maps are a bit nicer / better. I'm going to keep working on all of these scenarios, but if one perks more interest than the others - I'll devote a majority of my time to tweaking it, thinking of mechanics I could add - balance that could be done, etc. I want every nation to be enjoyable to play as, not just the big 'Muh Empire' ones.

Late Colonialism

Not sure if I'll go for the 1600s or early 1800s idea, I'm sort of leaning towards 1800s, but I think some edits will need to be made to the new world / asia.

1900s

Fixed Gabon, Danish-German-Russian border issues and something else I've forgotten..

[Reatra]

Quickly did a run through some of the corrections - so the maps are a bit nicer / better. I'm going to keep working on all of these scenarios, but if one perks more interest than the others - I'll devote a majority of my time to tweaking it, thinking of mechanics I could add - balance that could be done, etc. I want every nation to be enjoyable to play as, not just the big 'Muh Empire' ones.

Late Colonialism

Not sure if I'll go for the 1600s or early 1800s idea, I'm sort of leaning towards 1800s, but I think some edits will need to be made to the new world / asia.

1900s

Fixed Gabon, Danish-German-Russian border issues and something else I've forgotten..

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[Caltarania]

Also, here's a tiny informercial.

Are you tired of the straight lines in the normal Victoria II map? Do you want a realistic native american tribe's territory? Or maybe the Ottomans shouldn't own ALL of Iraq. Well, you're in luck! Here comes the new EDITED VICTORIA II MAP!!! Equipped with convenient regions to split the land, this map will allow you to build the empire of your dreams with only a few dozen bucket-fills!

Coming to an imgur near you!

I like that.

Maybe you could have an RP where players can only start with a certain number of regions. Could be interesting.

[Reatra]

Also, here's a tiny informercial.

Are you tired of the straight lines in the normal Victoria II map? Do you want a realistic native american tribe's territory? Or maybe the Ottomans shouldn't own ALL of Iraq. Well, you're in luck! Here comes the new EDITED VICTORIA II MAP!!! Equipped with convenient regions to split the land, this map will allow you to build the empire of your dreams with only a few dozen bucket-fills!

Coming to an imgur near you!

I like that.

Maybe you could have an RP where players can only start with a certain number of regions. Could be interesting.

ya

either ancient times, medieval, or post-apocalyptic

[Reatra]

GENOA STORY/TIMELINE FIRST PAGE AND A HALF

In 888 CE the empire of the Karlings had just fallen. Instead of a massive Empire of the Franks there were five Kingdoms. These were East and West Francia, Italy, Lotharingia, and Burgundy. Each of these kingdoms were falling apart themselves, but the one we will focus on for now is Italy. The Italian King Adam Karling was rapidly losing power to the nobles, he wasn’t a warrior, and was more comfortable making friends with courtiers and visiting his bishop than keeping his vassals loyal and punishing those who defied him. So much, in fact, were the nobles able to break away that even non-feudal vassals became independent. The cities of Pisa, Genoa, and Florence became independent communes of Italy. King Adam was technically the de jure overlord of each commune, but in reality the power lied in the hands of the elected duke, or duce (pronounced dootchey), of each city. Ever since the time of the Romans, Italy had held a very large urban population, and therefore it is no surprise that the cities in Post-Karling Italy (the official name for Italy between 879 CE and 941 CE) gained enough political control to be let free by the then weak king. Pisa, and Florence had already been established as prosperous cities for some time, having been so since pre-Roman times, but Genoa had at this time, only been a backwater fishing village of three thousand souls, and only controlling the area immediately adjacent to their town. But the Genovese elected their duce all the same, and the heads of their wealthiest and most influential families chose Alexander diSavona as their leader.

Alexander was known as the wealthiest man in Lombardia, and his funds would allow Genoa to begin it’s period of growth in the late 9th and early 10th centuries. Alexander was born in the town of Savona, a small city a short distance to the west of Genoa. He had bought a home in Genoa as a young man, and from there used it as a sort of “base of operations” for his commercial endeavours. He made a fortune trading all around the Mediterranean, buying and selling goods like sugar from Cyprus, wheat and barley from Sicilia, olives from Greece, and wine from Lombardia, among other things of course. Being the wealthiest man in the region, and having more than a large amount of an affinity for Genoa, Alexander instantly began work trying to turn her into a port city worthy to be compared to Alexandria and Amalfi. To truly appreciate what Alexander did for Genoa, one must really comprehend what it was like beforehand. Imagine a town tucked into the foothills of the Alps, finding just enough flat land along the coast to set up a few docks for the fishermen to tie their boats to. It was nothing like the bustling metropolis it is today, instead, only about eight hundred homes and less than a hundred other buildings dotted the hilly landscape. The only ships in the sea were small fishermen’s boats, and the only stone buildings were those of the wealthy families and the three churches. How Alexander was able to turn the village into a city on par with Pisa and Amalfi in only forty years is still a sort of legend to Genovese today. For a few years all Alexander could do was try and encourage his fellow merchants in the city to go further abroad for profits, and spend his personal wealth so build more docks and boats to encourage people to work and live in Genoa. He had success, but nothing too dramatic. Though in 892 CE, something terrible happened. The Saracens of Tunisia, which was at the time held by the declining Abbasid Caliphate began to raid and sack the cities of Italy, reaching as far north as Luni, a town dangerously close to Genoa. Therefore, seeing this as his chance to show the Mediterranean that Genoa was no longer an insignificant backwater, Alexander petitioned Pope Formosus to allow Genoa and the other Italian communes to organize an attack on the Saracens in Tunisia. The Pope quickly agreed, he himself scared that the Saracens would come from Roma next. Alexander sent emissaries to the duces of Florence, Amalfi, Pisa, and Venice, and a request to King Adam for troops to fight the “Saracen scourge”, and invited the warrior bands from Asturias to join in the fight. That summer, over thirteen thousand troops (nearly all the Genovese troops were in the form of mercenaries paid for by Alexander himself) and seventy-three galleys set off to Sardinia, where the Saracens had built a camp in the hills of Calari. The soldiers landed in southern Gallura on June 21st, and proceeded south to meet the Saracen force. Alexander was no commander, though, and while he was there at the battle, he gave command to his more able “friends”, the generals of the rival merchants from Pisa and Amalfi. On July 2nd the forces met, with the outnumbered Saracens immediately beginning to be pushed back. The next day the Saracens in Sardinia had either died, surrendered, or escaped back to Tunis in the night. Alexander and his mercenaries celebrated, and the next three days were spent resting and waiting for the fleet to come down south to pick them up and bring them to Tunis.

By July 19th the Italians landed outside Monastir, the closest spot to Tunis itself without terrible enemy resistance. There was a small fleet there in Monastir, but it was too insignificant to even challenge the Italian one. The city was besieged, and on September 5th it surrendered to the Italian forces. There the Italian forces split temporarily

[Altito Asmoro]

France annex you!

nu

I have Le Papa

muslim papal state best papal?

[Reatra]

nu

I have Le Papa

muslim papal state best papal?

Yuo of heathenry

Must of dyengs

[Altito Asmoro]

muslim papal state best papal?

Yuo of heathenry

Must of dyengs

Yuo of heathens

Muslim papal best papal

[Alleniana]

@Reatra thick border map make crei ;_;

I've seen that smallbordery one, don't like it much. It's almost as bad as the HoI III map. I mean, you look at it, and it's [heavy breathing] at the level of detail possible, but then you actually try to colour it in and you discover that you have absolutely no idea what goes where. And, on top of that, it makes your eyes (and brain) hurt. I still prefer either Vicky 2 or NUTS1/2.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

@Reatra thick border map make crei ;_;

I've seen that smallbordery one, don't like it much. It's almost as bad as the [url=img34.imageshack.us/img34/6651/rneka.png]HoI III[/url] map. I mean, you look at it, and it's [heavy breathing] at the level of detail possible, but then you actually try to colour it in and you discover that you have absolutely no idea what goes where. And, on top of that, it makes your eyes (and brain) hurt. I still prefer either Vicky 2 or NUTS1/2.

What is land and what is sea

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

@Reatra thick border map make crei ;_;

I've seen that smallbordery one, don't like it much. It's almost as bad as the [url=img34.imageshack.us/img34/6651/rneka.png]HoI III[/url] map. I mean, you look at it, and it's [heavy breathing] at the level of detail possible, but then you actually try to colour it in and you discover that you have absolutely no idea what goes where. And, on top of that, it makes your eyes (and brain) hurt. I still prefer either Vicky 2 or NUTS1/2.

What is land and what is sea

Tis before the fall of Atlantis. There ist no land and sea, only Danu Talis

[Finland SSR]

Also, here's a tiny informercial.

Are you tired of the straight lines in the normal Victoria II map? Do you want a realistic native american tribe's territory? Or maybe the Ottomans shouldn't own ALL of Iraq. Well, you're in luck! Here comes the new EDITED VICTORIA II MAP!!! Equipped with convenient regions to split the land, this map will allow you to build the empire of your dreams with only a few dozen bucket-fills!

Coming to an imgur near you!

Already imagining it before my Youtube video in a deep and loud voice.

But nah. The regions are all really weird and ahistorical. And lack a bit of logic.
But hey, maybe you'll nail it own in the sequel.

[Alleniana]

Super HD Vicky 2 map:
http://i.imgur.com/k74ctUq.png

I'll be whipping up an informative Vicky 2 map soon.

[Finland SSR]

Super HD Vicky 2 map:
http://i.imgur.com/k74ctUq.png

I'll be whipping up an informative Vicky 2 map soon.

But it's just the normal Vic2 map in light purple and dark blue...
Unless I am missing something here.

[Reatra]

Super HD Vicky 2 map:
http://i.imgur.com/k74ctUq.png

I'll be whipping up an informative Vicky 2 map soon.

But it's just the normal Vic2 map in light purple and dark blue...
Unless I am missing something here.

Twice as big

[Alleniana]

But it's just the normal Vic2 map in light purple and dark blue...
Unless I am missing something here.

Twice as big

Yup.
Anyway, my reference map, unfinished: http://i.imgur.com/quU9WLq.png

[Finland SSR]

Twice as big

Yup.
Anyway, my reference map, unfinished: http://i.imgur.com/quU9WLq.png

You know, I never really understood why Saaremaa+Hiiumaa is called "Osel".
Is there some historical fact I am missing here?

EDIT: Never mind, "Osel" is just Saaremaa in Swedish. Damn Paradox Swedish supremacy.

[Alleniana]

Yup.
Anyway, my reference map, unfinished: http://i.imgur.com/quU9WLq.png

You know, I never really understood why Saaremaa+Hiiumaa is called "Osel".
Is there some historical fact I am missing here?

I would have labelled it West Estonian archipelago, but everybody just knows it as Osel from Paradox Games.

[The Jonathanian States]

Super HD Vicky 2 map:
http://i.imgur.com/k74ctUq.png

I'll be whipping up an informative Vicky 2 map soon.

Dat quality

Twice as big

Yup.
Anyway, my reference map, unfinished: http://i.imgur.com/quU9WLq.png

I don't get that map. On one hand, we have German Silesia being what it is now, a small rump in Lusatia.
On the other hand, Prussian Pomerania.
EDIT:
Also, Tyrol, German? /EDIT

Quickly did a run through some of the corrections - so the maps are a bit nicer / better. I'm going to keep working on all of these scenarios, but if one perks more interest than the others - I'll devote a majority of my time to tweaking it, thinking of mechanics I could add - balance that could be done, etc. I want every nation to be enjoyable to play as, not just the big 'Muh Empire' ones.

Late Colonialism

Not sure if I'll go for the 1600s or early 1800s idea, I'm sort of leaning towards 1800s, but I think some edits will need to be made to the new world / asia.

So germany is now in peace with Poland-Lithuania, but destined to fight all three of its north-western neighbors?

1900s

Fixed Gabon, Danish-German-Russian border issues and something else I've forgotten..

I currently am a bit in a hurry so I can't check, but I'm not sure of that German province just east of Gabon. You do seem to have fixed those borders.
Though I think Montenegro still has the coastal province, and silesia has remained unchanged.

@Reatra thick border map make crei ;_;

Hear hear

Yup.
Anyway, my reference map, unfinished: http://i.imgur.com/quU9WLq.png

You know, I never really understood why Saaremaa+Hiiumaa is called "Osel".
Is there some historical fact I am missing here?

EDIT: Never mind, "Osel" is just Saaremaa in Swedish. Damn Paradox Swedish supremacy.

And Ösel in german.
LIVONISCHER ORDENSSTAAT stronk!

[The New Lowlands]

that new map gave me the ebolus

oh god the lines are too thick :/

[Alleniana]

Yup.
Anyway, my reference map, unfinished: http://i.imgur.com/quU9WLq.png

I don't get that map. On one hand, we have German Silesia being what it is now, a small rump in Lusatia.
On the other hand, Prussian Pomerania.
EDIT:
Also, Tyrol, German? /EDIT

It's a reference map, as in a map you look at to remember which province Czech Silesia or Anhalt or Jamtland or Cornwall is or whatever
God forbid it become an RP

Tyrol is split into Austrian Tyrol, German-Italian Tyrol and Italian Tirol, for the purposes of distinguishing between modern Austrian Tyrol, the ethnically-German part of Tyrol that Italy today owns, and the part of Tyrol that's actually ethnically Italian.

[Caltarania]

maps

[Alleniana]

maps

+1

[Caltarania]

maps

+1

gr8 m8 8/8