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[Bujahla]

Is there any reason why Soviet Union is always formed again in Nations RP that is set on 2010s-2020s?

It is the call of the motherland, Tovarish!

Isn't it usually transliterated as tovarishch?

Putin isn't necessarily communist though.

But he's patriotic and nationalistic enough.

He's decently anti-communist, but he is authoritarian.

[Alleniana]

It is the call of the motherland, Tovarish!

Isn't it usually transliterated as tovarishch?

Google seems to yield a wide variety of transcriptions, tovarishch, tovarish, tovarisch, tovarich, etc.

[Finland SSR]

Wats that?

Midnight in Moscow.

al in empirepowers confirmed

Is there any reason why Soviet Union is always formed again in Nations RP that is set on 2010s-2020s?

Because people want drama, cool new Cold Wars and they are not aware how much better the Eastern European life has become without communism and the Soviets.

Besides, most P2TM professionals don't bother with modern RPs. Filled with Diplomacy level RPers and either completely unrealistic or boring.

[Bujahla]

Isn't it usually transliterated as tovarishch?

Google seems to yield a wide variety of transcriptions, tovarishch, tovarish, tovarisch, tovarich, etc.

Pretty sure the shch sound is the right one cause of the letter used in russian.

[Alleniana]

yes, i'm in empirepowers
I'm the admins
all of them

I rarely go further than WWI, and I definitely have quite a dislike for Cold War and onwards (though it varies at different points; present day is better than late Cold War, for example), but I wasn't aware that was a trend followed too far.

Google seems to yield a wide variety of transcriptions, tovarishch, tovarish, tovarisch, tovarich, etc.

Pretty sure the shch sound is the right one cause of the letter used in russian.

Wade-Giles has pretty much destroyed my trust in all transcriptions, ever.

[Bujahla]

Midnight in Moscow.

al in empirepowers confirmed

Is there any reason why Soviet Union is always formed again in Nations RP that is set on 2010s-2020s?

Because people want drama, cool new Cold Wars and they are not aware how much better the Eastern European life has become without communism and the Soviets.

Besides, most P2TM professionals don't bother with modern RPs. Filled with Diplomacy level RPers and either completely unrealistic or boring.

Lol that's such an accurate description of new RP's....
Also yeah on the Eastern European thing.

[Alleniana]

I dunno about eastern Europe that seceded, but population growth and life expectancy, along with some other quality of life factors, dropped significantly in post-Soviet Russia, and are only now recovering.

[Bujahla]

I dunno about eastern Europe that seceded, but population growth and life expectancy, along with some other quality of life factors, dropped significantly in post-Soviet Russia, and are only now recovering.

That's mostly due to the bad economic path that Gorbachev put them on at the end of his time and the recession/whatever that hit the Russian Fed following the dissolution of the USSR. Now they have skyrocketed well beyond whatever they could have been given the same amount of time. As well, with the end of the "Molotov Plan" economics in Eastern Europe, their economies have been able to skyrocket and their lives have been significantly better on average.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

As well, with the end of the "Molotov Plan" economics in Eastern Europe, their economies have been able to skyrocket and their lives have been significantly better on average.

By chance, does this Molotov Plan happen to include throwing fire filled cocktails at the Eastern European economies? If not I am severely disappointed.

[Alleniana]

I dunno about eastern Europe that seceded, but population growth and life expectancy, along with some other quality of life factors, dropped significantly in post-Soviet Russia, and are only now recovering.

That's mostly due to the bad economic path that Gorbachev put them on at the end of his time and the recession/whatever that hit the Russian Fed following the dissolution of the USSR. Now they have skyrocketed well beyond whatever they could have been given the same amount of time. As well, with the end of the "Molotov Plan" economics in Eastern Europe, their economies have been able to skyrocket and their lives have been significantly better on average.

Huh? What's skyrocketed?

As well, with the end of the "Molotov Plan" economics in Eastern Europe, their economies have been able to skyrocket and their lives have been significantly better on average.

By chance, does this Molotov Plan happen to include throwing fire filled cocktails at the Eastern European economies? If not I am severely disappointed.

If I recall, the Molotov cocktail was named after a revolutionary leader who came up with, or at least introduced to mainstream usage, the idea of the weapon, which was then used because of the desperate situation they were in. Not sure if same leader.

[Bujahla]

That's mostly due to the bad economic path that Gorbachev put them on at the end of his time and the recession/whatever that hit the Russian Fed following the dissolution of the USSR. Now they have skyrocketed well beyond whatever they could have been given the same amount of time. As well, with the end of the "Molotov Plan" economics in Eastern Europe, their economies have been able to skyrocket and their lives have been significantly better on average.

Huh? What's skyrocketed?

By chance, does this Molotov Plan happen to include throwing fire filled cocktails at the Eastern European economies? If not I am severely disappointed.

If I recall, the Molotov cocktail was named after a revolutionary leader who came up with, or at least introduced to mainstream usage, the idea of the weapon, which was then used because of the desperate situation they were in. Not sure if same leader.

Perhaps skyrocketed isn't the word but those economic factors.

And yeah same guy but they were named to mock that guy, Vyacheslav Molotov, Foreign Minister of the USSR.

[Alleniana]

Huh? What's skyrocketed?

If I recall, the Molotov cocktail was named after a revolutionary leader who came up with, or at least introduced to mainstream usage, the idea of the weapon, which was then used because of the desperate situation they were in. Not sure if same leader.

Perhaps skyrocketed isn't the word but those economic factors.

And yeah same guy but they were named to mock that guy, Vyacheslav Molotov, Foreign Minister of the USSR.

Oh, well, I meant, for example, Russian life expectancy only recovered to 1988 levels in 2013.

[Bujahla]

Perhaps skyrocketed isn't the word but those economic factors.

And yeah same guy but they were named to mock that guy, Vyacheslav Molotov, Foreign Minister of the USSR.

Oh, well, I meant, for example, Russian life expectancy only recovered to 1988 levels in 2013.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=c ... 90&es_th=1

Look at the GDP per capita tho.

[Alleniana]

Oh, well, I meant, for example, Russian life expectancy only recovered to 1988 levels in 2013.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=c ... 90&es_th=1

Look at the GDP per capita tho.

Adjust for inflation though.
https://www.google.com/publicdata/explo ... &ind=false

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Man Google is pretty rad

[Alleniana]

Man Google is pretty rad

Yeah. It can do everything from this to this to this to this to this to this. It's no wonder people are worried about it getting monopolies on things.

[Bujahla]

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=c ... 90&es_th=1

Look at the GDP per capita tho.

Adjust for inflation though.
https://www.google.com/publicdata/explo ... &ind=false

Ah. Well people still generally like the Russian Fed more than the oppressive USSR.

[Alleniana]

Adjust for inflation though.
https://www.google.com/publicdata/explo ... &ind=false

Ah. Well people still generally like the Russian Fed more than the oppressive USSR.

Yeah, socially it's much better, but it's surprising how close they are economically.

[Auroya]

Yeah, socially it's much better

>putin's oppression of gays

wut

[Caltarania]

Yeah, socially it's much better

>putin's oppression of gays

wut

In Russia, better =/= good.

Actually, in general it doesn't.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

In Russia, better =/= good.

Actually, in general it doesn't.

Entirely agree.

Obvi there is room for improvement, but in every society where things are better there is always room for improvement, to make things more good.

Except in the Netherlands.

[Auroya]

Treatment of homosexuals was better in the 80s USSR tho.

Though I guess equally, some other things weren't.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Treatment of homosexuals was better in the 80s USSR tho.

Though I guess equally, some other things weren't.

While it might have been better for the gays, not always the case for every other group.

[Caltarania]

Treatment of homosexuals was better in the 80s USSR tho.

Though I guess equally, some other things weren't.

Homosexuals weren't persecuted directly, but it's important to remember that homosexuals are also everyday citizens, and in general everyday citizens had a pretty bad time in the Soviet Union (Or, at least, a worse time than most citizens in the Western world).

[The New Lowlands]

@people trying to bring back the USSR after Gorby

This is the Cold War equivalent of making an AH where Worst Germany pulls off Operation Unmentionable Sea Mammal. >:u

Treatment of homosexuals was better in the 80s USSR tho.

Though I guess equally, some other things weren't.

Homosexuals weren't persecuted directly, but it's important to remember that homosexuals are also everyday citizens, and in general everyday citizens had a pretty bad time in the Soviet Union (Or, at least, a worse time than most citizens in the Western world).

Weren't homosexuals considered "unnatural/capitalist corruption" under the Soviets?