The Historical RP Group HQ 2

[The Jonathanian States]

Eh....
Night, Al.
EDIT: Wait, do you sleep tied to your bed, upsidedowner?

no, I use magic

Impossible, that's way too ASB. Denied, maybe if you do proper research on Australian physics I'll let you try again.

Yeah, me neither.
The person also wrote of the Nazis wanting equality, whether poor or rich

Nazis having good goals and wanting equality?

Yeah, I actually used that one.(Only actually as an image, rather than compressed into an ignorable link).

Nazi goal, genocide aside, was good.

Never knew invading other nations for racial superiority is good.

I'm a big fan of spreading civilization via invasion.

I'll ignore the factuality part of this because I assume, at least hope, in some way even believe to know, that you know that.

Ave Imperator and all that twaddle, the Golden Ilkhanate rules the waves.

RULE ROMA, ROMA RULES THE LAND, ROMANS NEVER NEVER NEVER SHALL BE SLAVES. Except if they are plebs, fuck the plebs *nods*

[Reatra]

Eh....
Night, Al.
EDIT: Wait, do you sleep tied to your bed, upsidedowner?

no, I use magic

That list of RPs in the OP.. O.o

It's practically a historical artifact itself now

So what was this about Nazism and science?

jnsp

Thankfully Iberia does not even rule Iberia (thank the lort for a non-united Iberia, nothing makes me cringe more. Well, maybe united Scandinavia).

muh scandypride

Would anybody be interested in a post-apocalyptic RP based on Plato's Republic?

It's kind of historical

I was very confused and then I wasn't.

Conquering Castille as Portugal is unbelievably hard.

As Navarre

If it ever happens (which I've yet to see ever).

I think I saw it once, somewhere, outside of NI2. I remember that whoever had it was always getting annoyed at people who called it Spain.

I've been playing EU4 all day myself (sorry), used El Dorado to create Lombardy, which owned all of northern Italy down to Romagna & Tuscany, and excluding Treviso and beyond, for Venice. Oh, and excluding Liguria and Corsica. Conquered the rest of northern Italy bit by bit using France as ally (it was diplomatically very good, so I could gather heaps of allies), eventually united Italy, am now about to attack and annex Venice's paltry Lombard provinces, and a bit of Sicily that Spain owns.

Yey you left Genoa out. Even if you conquered it later.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Any cool RP's?

Forge of Empires 2 is a thing now.

Cool. I will take a look at it

[Alleniana]

I've been playing EU4 all day myself (sorry), used El Dorado to create Lombardy, which owned all of northern Italy down to Romagna & Tuscany, and excluding Treviso and beyond, for Venice. Oh, and excluding Liguria and Corsica. Conquered the rest of northern Italy bit by bit using France as ally (it was diplomatically very good, so I could gather heaps of allies), eventually united Italy, am now about to attack and annex Venice's paltry Lombard provinces, and a bit of Sicily that Spain owns.

Yey you left Genoa out. Even if you conquered it later.

it didn't do very well, it got pulled by Crimea for its colonies there, then the Ottomans later on for its Aegean colonies, and finally even Corsica revolted (whereupon I conquered it). It twaddled along for a while more, but it couldn't find any allies, and I'd actually united Italy by that point, so I took it.

no, I use magic

Impossible, that's way too ASB. Denied, maybe if you do proper research on Australian physics I'll let you try again.

*ahem*
NS magic.

[Altito Asmoro]

Nazi goal, genocide aside, was good.

Never knew invading other nations for racial superiority is good.

I'm a big fan of spreading civilization via invasion.

Ave Imperator and all that twaddle, the Golden Ilkhanate rules the waves.

Just like hordes.

[Cerillium]

Add me to the roster, if you don't mind, Allen. My time is very limited at the moment but I'm hoping to be more active (and have more personal time) once we roll closer to summer.

[Kryskov]

Add me to the roster, if you don't mind, Allen. My time is very limited at the moment but I'm hoping to be more active (and have more personal time) once we roll closer to summer.

WE DON'T LIKE YOU MENTOR TYPES HERE

*Ahem* welcome aboard

[Alleniana]

Add me to the roster, if you don't mind, Allen. My time is very limited at the moment but I'm hoping to be more active (and have more personal time) once we roll closer to summer.

Sure!

Add me to the roster, if you don't mind, Allen. My time is very limited at the moment but I'm hoping to be more active (and have more personal time) once we roll closer to summer.

WE DON'T LIKE YOU MENTOR TYPES HERE

*Ahem* welcome aboard

no, Krys, we have to be nice for long enough to collect the taxes

Anyway, just got off EU4. France (former extremely good ally) turned on me and went hostile because of a PU I got on Commonwealth that I didn't actually want, me and my few other allies got stomped, gave up. I couldn't even find a way to end the war that didn't leave both Commonwealth and France pissed at me, which left a smallish Bohemia as my biggest ally. Was only no. 9 in world for military, so with Spain & Austria hating my guts and England, Sweden & Russia (or lack thereof) being too far and not liking me anyway, basically had to give up. ;_; muh italy

So, now, a cheerier topic, MiM2.3.

[Finland SSR]

So, now, a cheerier topic, MiM2.3.

Wats that?

Sorry to disturb you, but you're kinda getting fucked over in Empire Powers.

How...?

Venice is allying with people around your SE Asian colonies, Brunei is booming and shit.

[Reatra]

So, now, a cheerier topic, MiM2.3.

Wats that?

How...?

Venice is allying with people around your SE Asian colonies, Brunei is booming and shit.

Venice is declaimed.
Brunei is... Well... Brunei.





ALSO TO ALL YOU PEEPZ OVER THERE WITH YOUR FANCY PERIODS AND LETTERS:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f488uJAQgmw

[Alleniana]

So, now, a cheerier topic, MiM2.3.

Wats that?

Midnight in Moscow.

[Reatra]

Wats that?

Midnight in Moscow.

Except, you know, the fact that Genovese banks basically owned the economy of the entire Spamish Empire in this era.
So, ya know... Spain's pretty big.

And has lots of colonies.


So yeah.

But fuck Venice.






I wanna write a story where Genoa becomes the most powerful Mediterranean state during the 1400s. Like the reel from the Black Plague, successfully defend against Milan, even taking some lands, reclaim Nice and Sardinia, and beat up the Byzantines before the Athens get to them to protect the Christians there.


And then Columbus sails west for Genoa, his home nation, and discovers the Lesser Antilles.




Yeeeeey

[Alleniana]

Midnight in Moscow.

Except, you know, the fact that Genovese banks basically owned the economy of the entire Spamish Empire in this era.

I mean in terms of military/colonial projection, as a state entity.
"spamish empire" hehehe

[The Knockout Gun Gals]

Is there any reason why Soviet Union is always formed again in Nations RP that is set on 2010s-2020s?

[Auroya]

Is there any reason why Soviet Union is always formed again in Nations RP that is set on 2010s-2020s?

Rule of cool I'd assume.

[The Jonathanian States]

Is there any reason why Soviet Union is always formed again in Nations RP that is set on 2010s-2020s?

It is the call of the motherland, Tovarish!

[Liecthenbourg]

Forge of Empires 2 is a thing now.

I like that rp. Gibraltar is not of Englond.

It'll be German by the time I'm done with it.

[Altito Asmoro]

Is there any reason why Soviet Union is always formed again in Nations RP that is set on 2010s-2020s?

Rule of cool I'd assume.

Sounds unrealistic, but Putin's the kind who wants to make Russia strong again. Not a stretch.

Is there any reason why Soviet Union is always formed again in Nations RP that is set on 2010s-2020s?

It is the call of the motherland, Tovarish!

soviet union best russia?

[Alleniana]

Putin isn't necessarily communist though.

[Altito Asmoro]

Putin isn't necessarily communist though.

But he's patriotic and nationalistic enough.

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Putin isn't necessarily communist though.

Yeah but I'm pretty sure he said the Soviet Union collapsing was like the biggest ever geopolitical tragedy in history and obvi he is a fan of the old USSR glory days. He might not be a communist but he sure misses the USSR.

[The Vekta-Helghast Empire]

Well, I've been working on four different ideas - all of which are alt-history, but I'm not sure what one I want to roll with yet.

1500/1600 late-colonialism RP - http://i.imgur.com/WZqsEAL.png

Basic story is that a large number of land wars kept European powers too poor and damaged to expand outwith the continent and more recently, Europe's seen a surge of nationalism making the traditional powers paranoid - A prime example of nationalism in action is the Formation of a German state and the destruction of England's hold on Wales & Ireland. This RP is actually a reboot of one I did a while ago and it wasn't as in-depth as I wanted it to be, so I sort of left it to die at the time. But I'm hoping to implement a number of mechanics for colonialism and politiking. If I recall, what happened last time was another huge land war, which prohibited colonialism for a number of the European powers, allowing for Sicily, Castile, Portugal and Scotland to become the colonial powers, which although interesting - resulted in a monopoly on the Americas. It also allowed for Scotland to diplomatically take control of the entire British isles..

1930s/1920s RP - http://i.imgur.com/AVJvPxF.png

Whites prevailed in Russia during the Revolution, but the nation still saw a number of its holdings break-away, though it maintained control of Mongolia and most of it's southern territories, it lost a majority of its western ones. That's the only real change there.

1900s -> RP - http://i.imgur.com/Hf4tGJz.png

Pretty accurate history, few minor changes - I'll leave some of the details up to the players, depending on what nation they choose. At the start, it'll mainly revolve around the paranoia surrounding the rapid rise of Germany and the Arms race between the different powers.

1400s RP - http://i.imgur.com/aW4xDs6.png (Map incomplete - as I've yet to think of how to lay out Asia/Africa/Americas).

This RP is a little more complicated than my other ones, as it'll have a few mechanics to it, for example - I'm working on something called coalitions, which are nations with either cultural or political similarities which have made an agreement, that if anyone outside of the coalition attacks them, all other members are obligated to defend that member state from foreign invasion. It's basically like a bunch of mini-Holy Roman Empires, only without an Emperor. (Map of starting Coalitions - http://i.imgur.com/1w5Bv7N.png) To make things even more interesting, if one coalition is attacked by the member of another - since the coalition members of the attacked state have to declare war on the attacker, the members of the attacking coalition are obligated to join the war - resulting in a coalition war. So both coalitions would end up at total war with one another. The main reasoning for this coalition system is to allow for smaller / weaker states to stand a chance and to prevent the usual suspects like England and Denmark from chomping up everyone in thirty seconds.

This RP will also provide a bigger challenge for nations looking to expand - as they'll face resistance movements, religious and cultural revolts, as well as administrative troubles as they try to impose their laws and regulations on the local populations (All the other ideas will be fleshed out, but this is the oldest of the ideas - so it's had the most work done to it thus far).


So, any input or suggestions?

[Alleniana]

Putin isn't necessarily communist though.

Yeah but I'm pretty sure he said the Soviet Union collapsing was like the biggest ever geopolitical tragedy in history and obvi he is a fan of the old USSR glory days. He might not be a communist but he sure misses the USSR.

That was a bit of spindoctoring. His views are better summed up as "People in Russia say that those who do not regret the collapse of the Soviet Union have no heart, and those that do regret it have no brain." (also a quote). His full quote about the breakup:

Above all, we should acknowledge that the collapse of the Soviet Union was a major geopolitical disaster of the century. As for the Russian nation, it became a genuine drama. Tens of millions of our co-citizens and compatriots found themselves outside Russian territory. Moreover, the epidemic of disintegration infected Russia itself.
Individual savings were depreciated, and old ideals destroyed. Many institutions were disbanded or reformed carelessly. Terrorist intervention and the Khasavyurt capitulation that followed damaged the country's integrity. Oligarchic groups — possessing absolute control over information channels — served exclusively their own corporate interests. Mass poverty began to be seen as the norm. And all this was happening against the backdrop of a dramatic economic downturn, unstable finances, and the paralysis of the social sphere.
Many thought or seemed to think at the time that our young democracy was not a continuation of Russian statehood, but its ultimate collapse, the prolonged agony of the Soviet system.
But they were mistaken.
That was precisely the period when the significant developments took place in Russia. Our society was generating not only the energy of self-preservation, but also the will for a new and free life.

@Vekta-Helghast, for idea 1, ehh, I'm very unsure about nationalism before the rise of a middle class. A dominant middle class generally seems to be the precondition for nationalism (well, either a middle class or Napoleon )

Idea 2: intriguing. I'd have to do some research to say any more in detail, but overall, it seems pretty plausible, and an interesting POD.

Idea 3: Mmm, could be a bit generic... I suppose it comes down to the detail.

Idea 4: I don't think setting the coalition mechanic in that age is the best idea. Back then, (at least in most of Europe) wars were fought between monarchs and their subjects, not countries, really. And the 1400s just aren't suited to that atmosphere of a sort of total war and fast-paced conflict.

[The Vekta-Helghast Empire]

Yeah but I'm pretty sure he said the Soviet Union collapsing was like the biggest ever geopolitical tragedy in history and obvi he is a fan of the old USSR glory days. He might not be a communist but he sure misses the USSR.

That was a bit of spindoctoring. His views are better summed up as "People in Russia say that those who do not regret the collapse of the Soviet Union have no heart, and those that do regret it have no brain." (also a quote). His full quote about the breakup:

Above all, we should acknowledge that the collapse of the Soviet Union was a major geopolitical disaster of the century. As for the Russian nation, it became a genuine drama. Tens of millions of our co-citizens and compatriots found themselves outside Russian territory. Moreover, the epidemic of disintegration infected Russia itself.
Individual savings were depreciated, and old ideals destroyed. Many institutions were disbanded or reformed carelessly. Terrorist intervention and the Khasavyurt capitulation that followed damaged the country's integrity. Oligarchic groups — possessing absolute control over information channels — served exclusively their own corporate interests. Mass poverty began to be seen as the norm. And all this was happening against the backdrop of a dramatic economic downturn, unstable finances, and the paralysis of the social sphere.
Many thought or seemed to think at the time that our young democracy was not a continuation of Russian statehood, but its ultimate collapse, the prolonged agony of the Soviet system.
But they were mistaken.
That was precisely the period when the significant developments took place in Russia. Our society was generating not only the energy of self-preservation, but also the will for a new and free life.

@Vekta-Helghast, for idea 1, ehh, I'm very unsure about nationalism before the rise of a middle class. A dominant middle class generally seems to be the precondition for nationalism (well, either a middle class or Napoleon )

Idea 2: intriguing. I'd have to do some research to say any more in detail, but overall, it seems pretty plausible, and an interesting POD.

Idea 3: Mmm, could be a bit generic... I suppose it comes down to the detail.

Idea 4: I don't think setting the coalition mechanic in that age is the best idea. Back then, (at least in most of Europe) wars were fought between monarchs and their subjects, not countries, really. And the 1400s just aren't suited to that atmosphere of a sort of total war and fast-paced conflict.

Idea one, I see where you're coming from - I'll definitely have to have a re-think, removal of nationalism would only really mean dividing Germany and maybe expanding England, so that's not a huge issue - The whole free-Sicily thing comes from disgruntled Italian Nobles rising against Catalan rule with the support of some of the other Italian states which didn't want to be gobbled up by creeping Iberian intrusion.

For Idea four, I think I'll remove the whole coalition war thing - but try to think of a way to make it plausible for these nations with similar conditions to stand together against outside intrusion.