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Lunas Legion
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:36 am

Elepis wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Opinions cannot originate from fact. Otherwise we'd all have the same opinions. Opinions rise from your interpretions of the facts, and given your political views you can hardly be counted on as the ultimate objective source.


That's what I meant Professor Legion.

So may political views (anarchism, not state socialism) makes me more likely to be basis than someone who supports capitalism? Of cause I am not the ultimate source, no one is, not even Leon Trotsky or Admiral Kolchak however my belief in anarchism alone does not in anyway degrade my opinion


I don't appreciate being mocked.

The fact remains that the Whites could've won, but they didn't for various reasons. Mostly because Kolchak was a bit of an idiot and they didn't really have anyone equivalent to Trotsky either in oratory skills to go rouse the troops.
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Postby Elepis » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:39 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
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That's what I meant Professor Legion.

So may political views (anarchism, not state socialism) makes me more likely to be basis than someone who supports capitalism? Of cause I am not the ultimate source, no one is, not even Leon Trotsky or Admiral Kolchak however my belief in anarchism alone does not in anyway degrade my opinion


I don't appreciate being mocked.

The fact remains that the Whites could've won, but they didn't for various reasons. Mostly because Kolchak was a bit of an idiot and they didn't really have anyone equivalent to Trotsky either in oratory skills to go rouse the troops.


Oh, I'm prone to sarcastic outbursts

They could have, all I said is "it is arguable whether they could have won" and hay, look at that, I was right, we did have an argument about it.
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Postby Caltarania » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:42 am

-still salty that I can't ever rp a normal goddamn weimar republic in an interwar rp-
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Lunas Legion
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:43 am

Elepis wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
I don't appreciate being mocked.

The fact remains that the Whites could've won, but they didn't for various reasons. Mostly because Kolchak was a bit of an idiot and they didn't really have anyone equivalent to Trotsky either in oratory skills to go rouse the troops.


Oh, I'm prone to sarcastic outbursts

They could have, all I said is "it is arguable whether they could have won" and hay, look at that, I was right, we did have an argument about it.



If you were arguing about whether the whites winning was arguable, then my head hurts slightly less than when we came up with the N=multiple of 4-dimensional hypercube concept and tried to visualise it over break today.
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Postby Caltarania » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:44 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
Elepis wrote:
Oh, I'm prone to sarcastic outbursts

They could have, all I said is "it is arguable whether they could have won" and hay, look at that, I was right, we did have an argument about it.



If you were arguing about whether the whites winning was arguable, then my head hurts slightly less than when we came up with the N=multiple of 4-dimensional hypercube concept and tried to visualise it over break today.


wha?
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Lunas Legion
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:45 am

Caltarania wrote:-still salty that I can't ever rp a normal goddamn weimar republic in an interwar rp-


Hmm. Well, why don't we do something that's never been seen before on NS, a.k.a an AH where there's no previous AH, and we start at the point of divergence?
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:47 am

Caltarania wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:

If you were arguing about whether the whites winning was arguable, then my head hurts slightly less than when we came up with the N=multiple of 4-dimensional hypercube concept and tried to visualise it over break today.


wha?


Get a hypercube 3-D projection. In the smaller cube in the middle, make that the bigger cube of another hypercube. Congrats, you have an 8-dimensional hypercube. Continue adding more hypercubes in the above process to increase the number of dimensions by 4 per cube added.
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Postby Caltarania » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:48 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
Caltarania wrote:-still salty that I can't ever rp a normal goddamn weimar republic in an interwar rp-


Hmm. Well, why don't we do something that's never been seen before on NS, a.k.a an AH where there's no previous AH, and we start at the point of divergence?


I'd love to, but I'd also feel bad to start an interwar rp when someone else is planning to start one. :(
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:50 am

Caltarania wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Hmm. Well, why don't we do something that's never been seen before on NS, a.k.a an AH where there's no previous AH, and we start at the point of divergence?


I'd love to, but I'd also feel bad to start an interwar rp when someone else is planning to start one. :(


Who's planning what, and what's happening in it?
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Postby Caltarania » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:51 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
I'd love to, but I'd also feel bad to start an interwar rp when someone else is planning to start one. :(


Who's planning what, and what's happening in it?


Terminus. That's why the whole RCW debate was sparked.
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Postby Arcerion » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:53 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
I'd love to, but I'd also feel bad to start an interwar rp when someone else is planning to start one. :(


Who's planning what, and what's happening in it?


I find the interwar to be the most interesting period, especially the mid-30s.

I've been planning one for a while, a throwback to my Divisional commander that fell through (was too big and actually failed). Focuses on smaller units, and players work collaboratively. Kind of a diplomatic thriller, with a lot of civil discussion, debate, etc. involved to make it a political thriller like House of Cards, a military strategy simulator like Patton, and the intrigue of most Bond films.
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Postby Terminus Alpha » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:07 pm

Caltarania wrote:-still salty that I can't ever rp a normal goddamn weimar republic in an interwar rp-

I could just make a normal interwar rp, but that'd be boring. It's much more fun to screw around with alt-history.
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Postby Caltarania » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:11 pm

Terminus Alpha wrote:
Caltarania wrote:-still salty that I can't ever rp a normal goddamn weimar republic in an interwar rp-

I could just make a normal interwar rp, but that'd be boring. It's much more fun to screw around with alt-history.

boo
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Arcerion
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Postby Arcerion » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:39 pm

Patriot's Sin

I'll make the pitch short to emphasize that this RP is in the final stages of construction, and weeks of mindless writing while being bored during lectures has come to fruition.

After WWI, the separation of colonies was conducted and therefore this will be the point of divergence. Each empire will get a D6 roll to determine how many colonies they have left. This could be caused by wars for independence, granting separation, or another Empire asserting themselves over it.

Colonies provide bonuses, in the form of 4 categories:

Production: Denotes speed of unit construction.
Note: Units are lands or individual ships. Generalizations are used.
Influence: Ability to intimidate, negotiate, and annex other countries/colonies. Used to increase a country's foreign interests.
Stability: Adds to a colony's stability score and whether or not it stands chance of rebelling or inciting civil war.
Industry: Denotes the # of production points that can be spent per turn.

There will be some neutral colonies to start that can be seized and taken. New colonies will not be created unless a Mod believes it is necessary to force countries and players to negotiate and work together.

Colonies will have their respective scores for each of their 4 categories determined via random roll. Home nations will be considered to have fixed stats determined by a Mod.

Trade is done by committing convoys. Convoys are created by purchasing a group of freighters and transports, and they are then committed as per a trade deal to trade with another country, benefiting both. However, convoys can be stolen, so a mutual trust is necessary for country's to cooperate. As well, convoys can be created between home Empires and their colonies, to boost that colony's stats. These convoys can also be taken.

Division of territory is done via a sector's method. Regions will be controlled by the central colony controlling them. Players can move fleets and armies into sectors, therefore not having to worry about the nitty gritty tactical level placement of units. Players will announce the movement of units through these sectors. All sectors and unit information will be available via google maps.

Player councils will simply be groups of players that sign up to represent countries. They may deem how decisions are made, democracy, totalitarian, however the players must strive for the success of their Empire. Mods will be watchful to ensure peaceful discourse. Infighting and backstabbing is expected.

The League of Nations will not be the paper tiger it was. Every country will elect a delegate, and the first Secretary-General will be selected at random. Subsequent SGs will be voted on by the delegates. The Secretary-General has the ability to veto resolutions proposed by the delegates, as well as impose sanctions via executive order. The Secretary-General can be voted out with a 2/3rds majority from the delegates at any time however. A new election must be held. Players can also use accumulated influence points to assist in the success of the elections by passing those influence points either discreetly or openly to other delegates to influence a vote.

Militarily, the game will have a focus on naval warfare and the creation and maintenance of large fleets. However, military forces will also be needed. The ship will have 4 classes of ships, Escorts, Sub-Capital, Capital, and Fleet. Each of these serves a role and will act differently in accordance with their role. The game's engine will not have serious mechanics for fighting. Rather the Mods will discuss, and since Mods will be expected to have some common sense and be well versed militarily, there will be considerations made and battles will be conducted civilly.

Feel free to add comments, concerns etc. for me to help get this into the final phase and to the fine RP'ers of P2M.
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Postby The New Lowlands » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:39 pm

Terminus Alpha wrote:
Caltarania wrote:-still salty that I can't ever rp a normal goddamn weimar republic in an interwar rp-

I could just make a normal interwar rp, but that'd be boring. It's much more fun to screw around with alt-history.

Too bad you're not going to be able to run it because France Wins WW2 has first dibs >:u

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:41 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:
Terminus Alpha wrote:I could just make a normal interwar rp, but that'd be boring. It's much more fun to screw around with alt-history.

Too bad you're not going to be able to run it because France Wins WW2 has first dibs >:u


pls do now ty

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Postby The New Lowlands » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:42 pm

Caltarania wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Opinions cannot originate from fact. Otherwise we'd all have the same opinions. Opinions rise from your interpretions of the facts, and given your political views you can hardly be counted on as the ultimate objective source.


[By the bounds of the question none of us could be counted as an ultimately objective source. Unless someone is a robot. But even then they'd have a pro-robot bias. Unless it was self-aware and didn't show us it so that it could plan it's ultimate takeover of the world.]

I'm totes objective.

The only answer to AHRP is that America wins again.

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Postby Terminus Alpha » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:51 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:
Terminus Alpha wrote:I could just make a normal interwar rp, but that'd be boring. It's much more fun to screw around with alt-history.

Too bad you're not going to be able to run it because France Wins WW2 has first dibs >:u

Well, I still have to finish the map and make a coherent timeline, so go ahead.
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Postby The New Lowlands » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:53 pm

and now the new topic of debate:

versailles wasn't harsh enough

potential answers include "yes" and "yes"

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Postby Caltarania » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:54 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:and now the new topic of debate:

versailles wasn't harsh enough

potential answers include "yes" and "yes"


I mean I guess you could say it was too centre course, and that going with either a much harsher or much more lenient treaty would be better, but meh, economics in the interwar period isn't my strongest point.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:58 pm

Caltarania wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:and now the new topic of debate:

versailles wasn't harsh enough

potential answers include "yes" and "yes"


I mean I guess you could say it was too centre course, and that going with either a much harsher or much more lenient treaty would be better, but meh, economics in the interwar period isn't my strongest point.


They should've either gone for a peace similar to WWII's terms on Germany without the splitting, or ruthlessly carved it back into it's hundreds of tiny HRE fiefdoms.
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Postby Reatra » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:26 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
I mean I guess you could say it was too centre course, and that going with either a much harsher or much more lenient treaty would be better, but meh, economics in the interwar period isn't my strongest point.


They should've either gone for a peace similar to WWII's terms on Germany without the splitting, or ruthlessly carved it back into it's hundreds of tiny HRE fiefdoms.


Yass

Like forty of fifty states that are barred from warring with each other (lest the great powers fall upon them) and guanarteed by France and Britain and Italy.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:36 pm

I love that concept Arc.
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Postby Reatra » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:37 pm

yee haw it's time for mass line

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Postby Finland SSR » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:09 pm

Elepis wrote:No, but it massively influence the so called Democratic system and basically controls it, it has also lead to massive homelessness, massive poverty and incurable exploitation. Thank you capitalism, we solve you!

you should learn about the the Russian Civil War, the October Revolution, Marxism, the White Terror

You're absolutely blinded. Look, man, I'm from a god damn post-Soviet country. I can compare both economical systems with experience.
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