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Who would win in a fight: M2, T-26, M13/40, or a Panzer II

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T-26
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Carro Armato M13/40
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Panzerkampfwagen II
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Postby Monfrox » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:50 am

Perestroikavo wrote:
Monfrox wrote:Neither has Kelly. And before you say it, no, the body-check was completely retaliatory to her firing at the mages and then trying to bum-rush them.

Not only that, but why does Olga even have her mage armor if she's on vacation?


Never bum rushed them. She stood in front of the smoke according to my post. And she has her armorial because she was a vital propaganda tool and her orders were to wear it everywhere she went, AND she was smuggled into the country via crate.

Still, she fired on American mages in West Berlin. You can aim a gun all you want, but it's not that big of a deal as far as actually firing it goes. Warning shot or not, actions always speak louder than words.
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Postby Perestroikavo » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:53 am

Monfrox wrote:Still, she fired on American mages in West Berlin. You can aim a gun all you want, but it's not that big of a deal as far as actually firing it goes. Warning shot or not, actions always speak louder than words.


Mog, that was the point. Olga could shout until she was blue in the face, and western mages would ignore her. Fire a bullet, and it gets everyones attention.
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Postby Monfrox » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:57 am

Perestroikavo wrote:
Monfrox wrote:Still, she fired on American mages in West Berlin. You can aim a gun all you want, but it's not that big of a deal as far as actually firing it goes. Warning shot or not, actions always speak louder than words.


Its West Germany Mog. West Berlin is probably not where this is. Anyways that was the point. Olga could shout until she was blue in the face, and western mages would ignore her. Fire a bullet, and it gets everyones attention.

I talked with TGW. He said it was in West Berlin.

Olga could shout if she thought straight enough and the American mages, if anything at the very least, would walk over and ask what the hell she was yelling about. Now, she's inadvertently sent everyone into an air of paranoia and mistrust that probably won't quell until the Germans get there. She's adding fuel to the fire.

I like you, Pet. But I'm not much of a fan of Olga as a character.
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Postby Perestroikavo » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:01 am

Monfrox wrote:I talked with TGW. He said it was in West Berlin.

Olga could shout if she thought straight enough and the American mages, if anything at the very least, would walk over and ask what the hell she was yelling about. Now, she's inadvertently sent everyone into an air of paranoia and mistrust that probably won't quell until the Germans get there. She's adding fuel to the fire.

I like you, Pet. But I'm not much of a fan of Olga as a character.


Then I did my job of making an effective foil of a lot of the other characters. Also, the GER mages are deaf apparently. :oops:
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:02 am

Perestroikavo wrote:Eh. I assume that most of you are from anti Soviet countries, so it was kind of expected. (I mean that in the least offensives way possible.) I have mixed feelings about Ulvs IS7 mage though.


I actually admire some things about the USSR in the Post-Stalin years, but still think it was a heavily flawed regime, that spewed ridiculous propaganda. I actually have no qualms against playing Soviet mages, my main char was a T-55 Red Army loyalist last thread.

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Postby Monfrox » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:05 am

Perestroikavo wrote:
Monfrox wrote:I talked with TGW. He said it was in West Berlin.

Olga could shout if she thought straight enough and the American mages, if anything at the very least, would walk over and ask what the hell she was yelling about. Now, she's inadvertently sent everyone into an air of paranoia and mistrust that probably won't quell until the Germans get there. She's adding fuel to the fire.

I like you, Pet. But I'm not much of a fan of Olga as a character.


Then I did my job of making an effective foil of a lot of the other characters. Also, the GER mages are deaf apparently. :oops:

I'm not sure that's the right word...
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Postby Perestroikavo » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:07 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Perestroikavo wrote:Eh. I assume that most of you are from anti Soviet countries, so it was kind of expected. (I mean that in the least offensives way possible.) I have mixed feelings about Ulvs IS7 mage though.


I actually admire some things about the USSR in the Post-Stalin years, but still think it was a heavily flawed regime, that spewed ridiculous propaganda. I actually have no qualms against playing Soviet mages, my main char was a T-55 Red Army loyalist last thread.


Understood. I agree to a certain extent of its flaws, but I would also argue that every country spewed lots of ridiculous propaganda. Also, Kruschev and his Kampaign of Korn was literally worthless.

I think it is the right word Mog. Olga seems to contrast with the others pretty drastically.
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Postby Monfrox » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:13 am

Perestroikavo wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
I actually admire some things about the USSR in the Post-Stalin years, but still think it was a heavily flawed regime, that spewed ridiculous propaganda. I actually have no qualms against playing Soviet mages, my main char was a T-55 Red Army loyalist last thread.


Understood. I agree to a certain extent of its flaws, but I would also argue that every country spewed lots of ridiculous propaganda. Also, Kruschev and his Kampaign of Korn was literally worthless.

I think it is the right word Mog. Olga seems to contrast with the others pretty drastically.

"In fiction, a foil is a character who contrasts with another character (usually the protagonist) in order to highlight particular qualities of the other character."

I'm not sure Olga's contrasts are highlighting anyone else's qualities. It's like the Red Oni/Blue Oni deal. The Red Oni is hot-blooded, loud, boisterous, and always eager. The Blue Oni is calm, collected, reserved, and calculating. By showing them side-by-side, they foil each other in that they are almost totally different from one another and yet they compliment the other as a character. Olga isn't really complimenting anyone. If she is, it's not coming to my mind at the moment.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:13 am

Monfrox wrote:
Perestroikavo wrote:
Its West Germany Mog. West Berlin is probably not where this is. Anyways that was the point. Olga could shout until she was blue in the face, and western mages would ignore her. Fire a bullet, and it gets everyones attention.

I talked with TGW. He said it was in West Berlin.

I was under the impression that this was West Germany, not West Berlin.
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Postby Monfrox » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:14 am

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Monfrox wrote:I talked with TGW. He said it was in West Berlin.

I was under the impression that this was West Germany, not West Berlin.

Minor details.
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Postby Perestroikavo » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:17 am

Huh. I guess my grasp on English is still a little bad. Man this language is hard to learn. Anyways, aye sort of highlights Polina. Or used to, I guess. I guess the better word would be anti-hero or antaganist.
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Postby Monfrox » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:19 am

Perestroikavo wrote:Huh. I guess my grasp on English is still a little bad. Man this language is hard to learn. Anyways, aye sort of highlights Polina. Or used to, I guess. I guess the better word would be anti-hero or antaganist.

I still think I should've been able to test-out of English in highschool. I've been speaking the damn language for more than a decade at that point.
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Postby Perestroikavo » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:25 am

Monfrox wrote:
Perestroikavo wrote:Huh. I guess my grasp on English is still a little bad. Man this language is hard to learn. Anyways, aye sort of highlights Polina. Or used to, I guess. I guess the better word would be anti-hero or antaganist.

I still think I should've been able to test-out of English in highschool. I've been speaking the damn language for more than a decade at that point.


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Postby Monfrox » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:27 am

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Monfrox wrote:I still think I should've been able to test-out of English in highschool. I've been speaking the damn language for more than a decade at that point.


Well,nit have to go cover a friends shift at noon,neon Ill be backnin like 6 or 7 hours

I'll be asleep by then.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:27 am

Monfrox wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:I was under the impression that this was West Germany, not West Berlin.

Minor details.

Not really, since Berlin was in East Germany. West Berlin was, ultimately, little more than a capitalist outpost in a Soviet-controlled region.
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Postby Monfrox » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:30 am

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Monfrox wrote:Minor details.

Not really, since Berlin was in East Germany. West Berlin was, ultimately, little more than a capitalist outpost in a Soviet-controlled region.
But whatever.

Those were the exact words put in the IC.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:31 am

Monfrox wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Not really, since Berlin was in East Germany. West Berlin was, ultimately, little more than a capitalist outpost in a Soviet-controlled region.
But whatever.

Those were the exact words put in the IC.

I'm still reading the IC. My reading speed is significantly slower when I'm tired.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:31 am

Perestroikavo wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
I actually admire some things about the USSR in the Post-Stalin years, but still think it was a heavily flawed regime, that spewed ridiculous propaganda. I actually have no qualms against playing Soviet mages, my main char was a T-55 Red Army loyalist last thread.


Understood. I agree to a certain extent of its flaws, but I would also argue that every country spewed lots of ridiculous propaganda. Also, Kruschev and his Kampaign of Korn was literally worthless.


I'm referring to their propaganda claiming the Western Allies were wanting to create a new Nazi state, simply because they wanted to treat Nazi war criminals like human beings. Or claiming that the proletariat would have their revenge on the East Germans who crossed into West Germany.

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Postby Monfrox » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:33 am

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Perestroikavo wrote:
Understood. I agree to a certain extent of its flaws, but I would also argue that every country spewed lots of ridiculous propaganda. Also, Kruschev and his Kampaign of Korn was literally worthless.


I'm referring to their propaganda claiming the Western Allies were wanting to create a new Nazi state, simply because they wanted to treat Nazi war criminals like human beings. Or claiming that the proletariat would have their revenge on the East Germans who crossed into West Germany.

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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:36 am

Alright, I've gotten all caught up on the IC. I'll post tomorrow (probably).
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Postby Perestroikavo » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:55 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:I'm referring to their propaganda claiming the Western Allies were wanting to create a new Nazi state, simply because they wanted to treat Nazi war criminals like human beings. Or claiming that the proletariat would have their revenge on the East Germans who crossed into West Germany.


You have to understand though. The Nazis came into our country, and would literally machinegun down everyone in the village. It struck a lot closer home than per say, the Americans. I even read in one book (Band of Brothers) that the Americans were reminded of themselves in the Germans. Anyways, so of course the Soviets retaliated. We taught the Americans the act of disproportionate retaliation that they use all the time today.
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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:00 am

Perestroikavo wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:I'm referring to their propaganda claiming the Western Allies were wanting to create a new Nazi state, simply because they wanted to treat Nazi war criminals like human beings. Or claiming that the proletariat would have their revenge on the East Germans who crossed into West Germany.


You have to understand though. The Nazis came into our country, and would literally machinegun down everyone in the village. It struck a lot closer home than per say, the Americans. I even read in one book (Band of Brothers) that the Americans were reminded of themselves in the Germans. Anyways, so of course the Soviets retaliated. We taught the Americans the act of disproportionate retaliation that they use all the time today.

nice plan then.

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Postby Monfrox » Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:00 am

Perestroikavo wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:I'm referring to their propaganda claiming the Western Allies were wanting to create a new Nazi state, simply because they wanted to treat Nazi war criminals like human beings. Or claiming that the proletariat would have their revenge on the East Germans who crossed into West Germany.


You have to understand though. The Nazis came into our country, and would literally machinegun down everyone in the village. It struck a lot closer home than per say, the Americans. I even read in one book (Band of Brothers) that the Americans were reminded of themselves in the Germans. Anyways, so of course the Soviets retaliated. We taught the Americans the act of disproportionate retaliation that they use all the time today.

Yeah, and because of Pearl Harbor, Americans developed an intense racism towards Japanese. You want to talk about disproportionate retaliation? We bombed Tokyo because of Pearl Harbor. Firebombed the whole country. Then dropped two A-bombs on it.
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Postby Perestroikavo » Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:02 am

No need to get so defensive. I was just pointing out what we did was wrong and why we did it. This isn't a contest of genocide?
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Postby Monfrox » Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:06 am

Perestroikavo wrote:No need to get so defensive. I was just pointing out what we did was wrong and why we did it. This isn't a contest of genocide?

I'm not being defensive, tho
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