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Who would win in a fight: M2, T-26, M13/40, or a Panzer II

M2 Light
6
38%
T-26
5
31%
Carro Armato M13/40
3
19%
Panzerkampfwagen II
2
13%
 
Total votes : 16

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Lunas Legion
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Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:19 pm

Ulvenes wrote:It's a simple debate, I'm not going to go on a rant saying "Germanz were awsum n Slava were bad."
Even though for the most part it's true.. :p


The Germans and the French have both tried conquering Europe by themselves, and each time the UK and Russia (with the US against Germany) has beaten them back.

Now, however, they've gotten wise and have decided to join forces and use diplomacy rather than the military to conquer Europe under the EU.
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Postby West Suburbia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:20 pm

Russians focused on quantity
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Postby Ulvenes » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:23 pm

You also have to admit, things like their Leopard tanks are pretty impressive. Their Leo 1A5 is still serving today pretty well. And the Leo 2, well. The cheapest Western MBT I've seen(out of the main countries). You can build 3 Leopard 2A5's per 1 LeClerc. How's that for qualit INquantity?

Although will also admit, no the best tank on the battlefield
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Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:25 pm

Ulvenes wrote:You also have to admit, things like their Leopard tanks are pretty impressive. Their Leo 1A5 is still serving today pretty well. And the Leo 2, well. The cheapest Western MBT I've seen(out of the main countries). You can build 3 Leopard 2A5's per 1 LeClerc. How's that for qualit INquantity?

Although will also admit, no the best tank on the battlefield


Best modern battlefield MBT has to to to either the Challenger 2 or Abrams M1A2.
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Postby Tsuyoi Tekikoku » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:26 pm

Well same for the T-72.
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Postby Ulvenes » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:30 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Ulvenes wrote:You also have to admit, things like their Leopard tanks are pretty impressive. Their Leo 1A5 is still serving today pretty well. And the Leo 2, well. The cheapest Western MBT I've seen(out of the main countries). You can build 3 Leopard 2A5's per 1 LeClerc. How's that for qualit INquantity?

Although will also admit, no the best tank on the battlefield


Best modern battlefield MBT has to to to either the Challenger 2 or Abrams M1A2.


I'd rule out the Abrams simply cause the engine. Unreliablet in dusty conditions and one hell of a gas guzzler.

T-72 isn't a good MBT for the modern era. It was for when it was made, however.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:40 pm

Ulvenes wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
Best modern battlefield MBT has to to to either the Challenger 2 or Abrams M1A2.


I'd rule out the Abrams simply cause the engine. Unreliablet in dusty conditions and one hell of a gas guzzler.

T-72 isn't a good MBT for the modern era. It was for when it was made, however.


I never said anything about the T-72 being the best modern MBT.
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Postby Rynagria » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:44 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Ulvenes wrote:You also have to admit, things like their Leopard tanks are pretty impressive. Their Leo 1A5 is still serving today pretty well. And the Leo 2, well. The cheapest Western MBT I've seen(out of the main countries). You can build 3 Leopard 2A5's per 1 LeClerc. How's that for qualit INquantity?

Although will also admit, no the best tank on the battlefield


Best modern battlefield MBT has to to to either the Challenger 2 or Abrams M1A2.

I would say the Challenger 2.

The Abrams' armor is good protection against HEAT rounds, but against KE projectiles, they have less protection than a Leopard 2.
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Postby Monfrox » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:18 pm

Don't we all have somewhere to be?
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Postby Ulvenes » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:28 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:I never said anything about the T-72 being the best modern MBT.


That was directed at the lovely Tsu.

Monfrox wrote:Don't we all have somewhere to be?


My building lost power so they let me go home six hours early~
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Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:38 pm

Monfrox wrote:Don't we all have somewhere to be?


8:45 pm and there's nada on TV.
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Postby Monfrox » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:53 pm

I'm talking about the IC.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:58 pm

Monfrox wrote:I'm talking about the IC.


I think all the Axis mages are waiting for escape plans to be drawn up.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:13 pm

Monfrox wrote:I'm talking about the IC.

My Brit is just driving on the road, and I don't really feel like making a post about her inner thoughts atm.
My German is smoking a cigarette in the prison while everyone makes plans.
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Postby Rynagria » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:16 pm

Wouldn't one of the Allied mages try to help?

Or should try to help? Like visit them.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:26 pm

Rynagria wrote:Wouldn't one of the Allied mages try to help?

Or should try to help? Like visit them.

They weren't told anything about the prison or about the escape; only to meet at the academy. It wouldn't make sense to try to help.
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Postby Ulvenes » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:27 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Monfrox wrote:I'm talking about the IC.


I think all the Axis mages are waiting for escape plans to be drawn up.


I'm just hoping someone interacts with me.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:00 pm

Ulvenes wrote:
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I prefer Russian, because quantity has a quality all of it's own.


Yeah and look how well that did Sadam and his armored forces.


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Cause German gear is always exquisite while Russian simply gets the job done.


I prefer Russian, because quantity has a quality all of it's own.


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Postby Perestroikavo » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:24 pm

And so Ulvenes, the great GER fanboy/girl continues to ramble on while I scornfully read over the posts.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:26 pm

Perestroikavo wrote:And so Ulvenes, the great GER fanboy/girl continues to ramble on while I scornfully read over the posts.


Yes, because everything is about you.

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Postby Monfrox » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:38 pm

How about you both just knock it off? Yes, Ulv tends to be Pro-German at times, but you tend to be very Pro-Russian. Everyone's guilty of it. We don't need to go pointing fingers and starting shit because of it.
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:41 pm

Monfrox wrote:How about you both just knock it off? Yes, Ulv tends to be Pro-German at times, but you tend to be very Pro-Russian. Everyone's guilty of it. We don't need to go pointing fingers and starting shit because of it.

Well we can, just so long as everyone realizes the Americans saved the world twice and their silly German-Russian argument is peanuts in comparison to glorious Eagleland.
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Postby Towers » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:43 pm

Even I am guilty of being pro-butt.

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Postby The Grey Wolf » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:43 pm

Monfrox wrote:How about you both just knock it off? Yes, Ulv tends to be Pro-German at times, but you tend to be very Pro-Russian. Everyone's guilty of it. We don't need to go pointing fingers and starting shit because of it.


Besides, we all know that the M13/40 was the best tank of the war.

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Postby Nature-Spirits » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:47 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:
Monfrox wrote:How about you both just knock it off? Yes, Ulv tends to be Pro-German at times, but you tend to be very Pro-Russian. Everyone's guilty of it. We don't need to go pointing fingers and starting shit because of it.

Well we can, just so long as everyone realizes the Americans saved the world twice and their silly German-Russian argument is peanuts in comparison to glorious Eagleland.
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