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[The Fallen Jedi]

Alright, listen, Vortukia has granted me Co-Op powers for now.

If any of you have questions for Vortukia, feel free to direct them to me so i can answer it.

[Segmentia]

Nonim.just being realistic. I do have a nation that possesses somemungodly firepower in a very vast amount. So yes I would say I am superior. Tactics help too. A AGR old nation that focuses on military tends to get to that point. Don't lien that realism? There's the door.


The Aztecs even if the diesese aspect was not in it, still would not have won against the Spainards why?

Because the Spainards had better firepower, were more advanced, old, and in large numbers.

Actually, a significant portion of the Spanish forces were made up of local warriors.

[Vortukia]

Nonim.just being realistic. I do have a nation that possesses somemungodly firepower in a very vast amount. So yes I would say I am superior. Tactics help too. A AGR old nation that focuses on military tends to get to that point. Don't lien that realism? There's the door.


The Aztecs even if the diesese aspect was not in it, still would not have won against the Spainards why?

Because the Spainards had better firepower, were more advanced, old, and in large numbers.

Actually, a significant portion of the Spanish forces were made up of local warriors.

You get the idea.

[The Orson Empire]

Nonim.just being realistic. I do have a nation that possesses somemungodly firepower in a very vast amount. So yes I would say I am superior. Tactics help too. A AGR old nation that focuses on military tends to get to that point. Don't lien that realism? There's the door.


The Aztecs even if the diesese aspect was not in it, still would not have won against the Spainards why?

Because the Spainards had better firepower, were more advanced, old, and in large numbers.

This is completely false. You obviously do not know how the actual Spanish invasion happened.

[Vortukia]

Nonim.just being realistic. I do have a nation that possesses somemungodly firepower in a very vast amount. So yes I would say I am superior. Tactics help too. A AGR old nation that focuses on military tends to get to that point. Don't lien that realism? There's the door.


The Aztecs even if the diesese aspect was not in it, still would not have won against the Spainards why?

Because the Spainards had better firepower, were more advanced, old, and in large numbers.

This is completely false. You obviously do not know how the actual Spanish invasion happened.

It was a reference, one that would be easily taken how it was supposed to. The Spanish had horses, gun's, and even some protection.

[Vortukia]

Look you get my point and that's the simple end of it. Deal with it.

[The Fallen Jedi]

Nonim.just being realistic. I do have a nation that possesses somemungodly firepower in a very vast amount. So yes I would say I am superior. Tactics help too. A AGR old nation that focuses on military tends to get to that point. Don't lien that realism? There's the door.


The Aztecs even if the diesese aspect was not in it, still would not have won against the Spainards why?

Because the Spainards had better firepower, were more advanced, old, and in large numbers.

This is completely false. You obviously do not know how the actual Spanish invasion happened.

First Off, you guys need to Cite your sources.

Vortukia: You need to Cite your Sources about how old the Aztecs and the Spaniards were in comparison and find out about the Firepower they possessed.

Orson: Provide us with a working source to back up your claim that Vortukia is wrong.

[The Orson Empire]

This is completely false. You obviously do not know how the actual Spanish invasion happened.

First Off, you guys need to Cite your sources.

Vortukia: You need to Cite your Sources about how old the Aztecs and the Spaniards were in comparison and find out about the Firepower they possessed.

Orson: Provide us with a working source to back up your claim that Vortukia is wrong.

The Spanish themselves came in small numbers, while thousands of natives sided with the Spanish in their fight against the Aztecs. Also, the diseases the Spanish brought over played a major role in the defeat of the Aztecs.

[Vortukia]

First Off, you guys need to Cite your sources.

Vortukia: You need to Cite your Sources about how old the Aztecs and the Spaniards were in comparison and find out about the Firepower they possessed.

Orson: Provide us with a working source to back up your claim that Vortukia is wrong.

The Spanish themselves came in small numbers, while thousands of natives sided with the Spanish in their fight against the Aztecs. Also, the diseases the Spanish brought over played a major role in the defeat of the Aztecs.

I was referring to the fact they had a whole continent to draw people from.


I've already said you either deal with it, or I don't care.

[The Orson Empire]

The Spanish themselves came in small numbers, while thousands of natives sided with the Spanish in their fight against the Aztecs. Also, the diseases the Spanish brought over played a major role in the defeat of the Aztecs.

I was referring to the fact they had a whole continent to draw people from.


I've already said you either deal with it, or I don't care.

No, you weren't. That's not what your post said.

[Vortukia]

Look, I'm not going to divulge in this any further. I wont tolerate ANY posts in on this. I'm not going to let this thread get filled with a argument. You've heard what you heard, deal with it.


Any further posts on this, or anything regarding it will result in ejection of the thread. I don't care WHO you are, or if you were just; Stating something, throwing your two cents in or anything. Any posts will result in ejection.



Am I clear? Good.


PS: Even responding to this, or any of the further back messages will get this. If you post and read this after? Delete your post. Or I will banject you.

[New Armarzia]

If anybody wants to come in contact with a nation or just interact with one, my nation is willing to participate. Was focusing on making deals with Vortukia, but seeing as he seems to be a fairly busy person, going to see what other messes I can get in so I can be "active"

[Vortukia]

If anybody wants to come in contact with a nation or just interact with one, my nation is willing to participate. Was focusing on making deals with Vortukia, but seeing as he seems to be a fairly busy person, going to see what other messes I can get in so I can be "active"

I'm going to TRY to get a post up today.

[New Armarzia]

I'm going to TRY to get a post up today.

That'd be awesome, pretty sure you are fairly a busy person, so no rush. Just might as well see what other things my nation can do, especially since you are dealing with a racial group within my nation rather then the government, so need to represent the actual nation

[Vortukia]

I've also been waiting for Nazeroth.

[The V O I D]

so, im guessing we can't use a second species/nation then?

[Imperialisium]

Just let Vortukia believe he's better. It's not true and his reference was historically inaccurate in the extreme. But it's pointless to argue. The only thig I can say is that he better not get upset if i start defeating him

[Imperialisium]

Just for the sake of History and not for argument

Spanish Strength
90-100 Cavalry
900-1300 Infantry
6 Guns
13 Brigantines

TOTAL: Maximum of 1400 troops, 6 Cannon, 13 Brigantine (small ships).

Native Allies to the Spanish
Tlaxacala: 80,000-200,000 warriors

Cempoala: 400 Warriors

Aztec Empire: Roughly 300,000 Warriors

See the statistical difference? 1400 vs 300,000? Even if every single Spaniard was equipped with a fire arm they would have been easily defeated on their own.

Sources

Chasteen, John Charles. Born in Blood and Fire: A Concise History of Latin America. New

York: W.W. Norton, 2011


The Conquest of America by Tzvetan Todorov (1996)

History of the Conquest of Mexico, with a Preliminary View of Ancient Mexican Civilization, and the Life of the Conqueror, Hernando Cortes

Some of these texts are partially or fully available online I believe. But I have no doubt if anyone has access to a library they could find a related text.

[The Fallen Jedi]

so, im guessing we can't use a second species/nation then?

Your actually allowed to be a second Species, hell, i'm using Three Species and Three Nations.

[Novia Soviet Socialist Republic]

so, im guessing we can't use a second species/nation then?

Your actually allowed to be a second Species, hell, i'm using Three Species and Three Nations.

Okay, cool. Prepare for another app later on I guess.

[Vortukia]

Regardless of what you were arguing about, as that is not the point. Imp, you are temporarily ejected from the RP, as you have continued a argument I said not to continue. So I must follow through with my threat.


PS: This only applies to OOC, you are free to post ICly.

[Imperialisium]

I'm ejected for arguing when I made it abundantly clear I didn't post anything to further an argument? Okay see ya later, I'll find a role play with an op who can take constructive criticism. I don't have time to argue with a child.

Best of luck to everyone else! If anyone wants to hit me up for a roleplay you know how to get in contact

imps

[The Fallen Jedi]

Regardless of what you were arguing about, as that is not the point. Imp, you are temporarily ejected from the RP, as you have continued a argument I said not to continue. So I must follow through with my threat.


PS: This only applies to OOC, you are free to post ICly.

As a fellow Co-Op, i very much disagree with this, Imperiali voiced her own opinion, which i like to see.

[Vortukia]

I put forth a punisent for continuing a argument that was getting out of hand. If I have to be the bad guy that actually dishes out the punishment. Then I'm the bad guy.

[Segmentia]

I'm ejected for arguing when I made it abundantly clear I didn't post anything to further an argument? Okay see ya later, I'll find a role play with an op who can take constructive criticism. I don't have time to argue with a child.

Best of luck to everyone else! If anyone wants to hit me up for a roleplay you know how to get in contact

imps

Well, that's my cue to leave as well, Imps being the reason I was really here, and so far being my only IC contact.

Best of luck to everyone.