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[Harkback Union]

Anyone knows how many days have passed since Illum started?

[Seno Zhou Varada]

Need new... map...

[Harkback Union]

Need new... map...

Its almost done.
Is siochana still in Arcea's hands?

[Seno Zhou Varada]

Need new... map...

Its almost done.
Is siochana still in Arcea's hands?

Nope

And 10 days in.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Hum. Levis, didn't you have 13 Ag at the start of this conflict? So 1,500,000 citizens, or 15,000 soldiers at the 1% rule?

I mean, you can certainly raise more via a draft, but that will take time, and they'll be both poorly equipped and poorly trained compared to your 1% regulars.

[Harkback Union]

Looks like we got 2 new RPers inbound.

[Seno Zhou Varada]

Looks like we got 2 new RPers inbound.

Yeah!

[Military Democracy of Birtonia]

Tagalicious

[Levis Avara]

Hum. Levis, didn't you have 13 Ag at the start of this conflict? So 1,500,000 citizens, or 15,000 soldiers at the 1% rule?

I mean, you can certainly raise more via a draft, but that will take time, and they'll be both poorly equipped and poorly trained compared to your 1% regulars.

We drafted more troops its been 2 years of preparation and training (Army 5). Also I have 1 grievance to make about the whole population thing. Shouldn't population naturally increase with science and industry? I mean with science comes inventions like better fertilization more advanced tools and just better more advanced ways of farming. I mean look at pre-industrial UK it had a population of 11,000,000 that nearly dwarfs Arcea and Amenrali the 2 largest civs in the game.Science and agriculture just go hand and hand.

[Seno Zhou Varada]

Tagalicious

Yes! More people!

Please app as natives we need some. Or heck an advanced barbarian horde would be awesome.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Hum. Levis, didn't you have 13 Ag at the start of this conflict? So 1,500,000 citizens, or 15,000 soldiers at the 1% rule?

I mean, you can certainly raise more via a draft, but that will take time, and they'll be both poorly equipped and poorly trained compared to your 1% regulars.

We drafted more troops its been 2 years of preparation and training (Army 5). Also I have 1 grievance to make about the whole population thing. Shouldn't population naturally increase with science and industry? I mean with science comes inventions like better fertilization more advanced tools and just better more advanced ways of farming. I mean look at pre-industrial UK it had a population of 11,000,000 that nearly dwarfs Arcea and Amenrali the 2 largest civs in the game.Science and agriculture just go hand and hand.

Ah. Even so, drafting past 1% will necessarily decrease both quality of soldier and quality of equipment, as well as turning it from a volunteer force into a conscript force.

That is true, to an extent. Only if the Industry and Science are applied to agricultural processes would they tie with an increase in population. If they aren't, meaning the AG score isn't increased, there's no particular region why being better at manufacturing and astronomy would lead to a more numerous population, in the same way that science doesn't automatically lead to culture.

Also, our populations escalate rapidly. I just hit 12 million inhabitants, so I'm truly at Industrial levels of population.

[Levis Avara]

Hum. Levis, didn't you have 13 Ag at the start of this conflict? So 1,500,000 citizens, or 15,000 soldiers at the 1% rule?

I mean, you can certainly raise more via a draft, but that will take time, and they'll be both poorly equipped and poorly trained compared to your 1% regulars.

Also my agri score is 14 from Orion timeless era

[G-Tech Corporation]

Hum. Levis, didn't you have 13 Ag at the start of this conflict? So 1,500,000 citizens, or 15,000 soldiers at the 1% rule?

I mean, you can certainly raise more via a draft, but that will take time, and they'll be both poorly equipped and poorly trained compared to your 1% regulars.

Also my agri score is 14 from Orion timeless era

Ah, yes, that was why it was 1.5 million, my mistake. I was wondering why those figures didn't align with my head canon of 800k.

[Military Democracy of Birtonia]

Tagalicious

Yes! More people!

Please app as natives we need some. Or heck an advanced barbarian horde would be awesome.

lol alright then, what era we be in now? Im too lazy to read up stuff

[G-Tech Corporation]

Yes! More people!

Please app as natives we need some. Or heck an advanced barbarian horde would be awesome.

lol alright then, what era we be in now? Im too lazy to read up stuff

The Age of Enlightenment; basically lots of colonization and progress. Are you going to roll natives? The west continent could use some inhabitants.

[Military Democracy of Birtonia]

Yeah ill native it up lol, just not quite sure how to claim it and stuff

[G-Tech Corporation]

Yeah ill native it up lol, just not quite sure how to claim it and stuff

Basically just fill out the app in the first post of this thread labelled Natives. Ensure to specify where you want to be located; if you have immediate goals and cultural objectives you want to aim for, I'd be happy to help you determine what score allocations would be apropos.

[Levis Avara]

We drafted more troops its been 2 years of preparation and training (Army 5). Also I have 1 grievance to make about the whole population thing. Shouldn't population naturally increase with science and industry? I mean with science comes inventions like better fertilization more advanced tools and just better more advanced ways of farming. I mean look at pre-industrial UK it had a population of 11,000,000 that nearly dwarfs Arcea and Amenrali the 2 largest civs in the game.Science and agriculture just go hand and hand.

Ah. Even so, drafting past 1% will necessarily decrease both quality of soldier and quality of equipment, as well as turning it from a volunteer force into a conscript force.

That is true, to an extent. Only if the Industry and Science are applied to agricultural processes would they tie with an increase in population. If they aren't, meaning the AG score isn't increased, there's no particular region why being better at manufacturing and astronomy would lead to a more numerous population, in the same way that science doesn't automatically lead to culture.

Also, our populations escalate rapidly. I just hit 12 million inhabitants, so I'm truly at Industrial levels of population.

I meant better tools used for farming. When you think of the more advanced tools being able to be used then even before the industrial age population should be much higher. Also when you think about my explorers have covered huge tracts of the old world. Meaning more plants and crops and greater diffusion. Improving over techs like ploughs and windmills means more efficiency and more crop yield. I think my population should at least be 9 million and yours much higher. And there's been no major disasters in years?

[Military Democracy of Birtonia]

Yeah ill native it up lol, just not quite sure how to claim it and stuff

Basically just fill out the app in the first post of this thread labelled Natives. Ensure to specify where you want to be located; if you have immediate goals and cultural objectives you want to aim for, I'd be happy to help you determine what score allocations would be apropos.

Essentially i want these natives to quickly adapt to the new technology yall will bring and turn into a militarized warrior society...basically like brown spartans lol

[G-Tech Corporation]

Ah. Even so, drafting past 1% will necessarily decrease both quality of soldier and quality of equipment, as well as turning it from a volunteer force into a conscript force.

That is true, to an extent. Only if the Industry and Science are applied to agricultural processes would they tie with an increase in population. If they aren't, meaning the AG score isn't increased, there's no particular region why being better at manufacturing and astronomy would lead to a more numerous population, in the same way that science doesn't automatically lead to culture.

Also, our populations escalate rapidly. I just hit 12 million inhabitants, so I'm truly at Industrial levels of population.

I meant better tools used for farming. When you think of the more advanced tools being able to be used then even before the industrial age population should be much higher. Also when you think about my explorers have covered huge tracts of the old world. Meaning more plants and crops and greater diffusion. Improving over techs like ploughs and windmills means more efficiency and more crop yield. I think my population should at least be 9 million and yours much higher. And there's been no major disasters in years?

Oh I agree tech is important; more important is how that tech is directed though. If a nation uses iron, but never invents the plow, making their nonexistent plows out of steel does nothing for them. If a nation doesn't understand fertilizers, but makes gunpowder, the fact that they could fertilize their crops with synthetic fertilizers means nothing to their agricultural capabilities. AG score is your nation's comprehension and usage of farming techniques as much as it has anything to do with tech; for instance, crop rotation drastically booster yields, and only has a tangential relation to technological innovation.

On a different note, I'd love to build my next Wonder, but I'm hoping it can be an Advanced one. Any hope for advanced wonders Hark?

Basically just fill out the app in the first post of this thread labelled Natives. Ensure to specify where you want to be located; if you have immediate goals and cultural objectives you want to aim for, I'd be happy to help you determine what score allocations would be apropos.

Essentially i want these natives to quickly adapt to the new technology yall will bring and turn into a militarized warrior society...basically like brown spartans lol

Hmm. You'll want a high Ag and Army score then, with Culture for morale. As soon as you encounter a mainland civ you can start adopting their tech level automatically, so no need to focus on that.

[Military Democracy of Birtonia]

So in the form how would i write that down?

[G-Tech Corporation]

So in the form how would i write that down?

Likely something like:

Name: The United Tribes of Evulz
Short history: Sackers and salvagers, they burnt down civilization then built a better one in the ashes.
Starting score: Ag 6, Industry 2, Science 0, Culture 5, Army 6, Navy 1
Starting location (for instance: Tropical coastline, Desert, Rocky mountains): Inland on the West continent, fertile mountain vale with plenty of food that is easily defensible.

[Jute]

So in the form how would i write that down?

Likely something like:

Name: The United Tribes of Evulz
Short history: Sackers and salvagers, they burnt down civilization then built a better one in the ashes.
Starting score: Ag 6, Industry 2, Science 0, Culture 5, Army 6, Navy 1
Starting location (for instance: Tropical coastline, Desert, Rocky mountains): Inland on the West continent, fertile mountain vale with plenty of food that is easily defensible.

Wait, isn't that where the Ratellanders are now?

[Harkback Union]

Everyone, listen. The scores are here to keep track of everyone's progress. If you develop technologies that help your agriculture advance, just increase agriculture score in one day and then science in the next. Always make your IC first and than based on what happens ICly, find the appropiate scores to add...

[G-Tech Corporation]

Likely something like:

Name: The United Tribes of Evulz
Short history: Sackers and salvagers, they burnt down civilization then built a better one in the ashes.
Starting score: Ag 6, Industry 2, Science 0, Culture 5, Army 6, Navy 1
Starting location (for instance: Tropical coastline, Desert, Rocky mountains): Inland on the West continent, fertile mountain vale with plenty of food that is easily defensible.

Wait, isn't that where the Ratellanders are now?

I -think- Ratelland is on the SW continent.

Everyone, listen. The scores are here to keep track of everyone's progress. If you develop technologies that help your agriculture advance, just increase agriculture score in one day and then science in the next. Always make your IC first and than based on what happens ICly, find the appropiate scores to add...

Exactly! Like when I build new cities AG increases to reflect the pressures of population growth that forced the expansion in the first place.

Hark, are the Stargazers building settlements within the Nightwall, or outside it? I'm presuming the settlements are on my north coast somewhere.