History of Nations - AH RP [OOC/Always Open]

[Rephesus]

You can adopt the Mesopotamian Nation I just dropped.

Wait, your nation had 620,000 soldiers?

If your nation was allowed to have this large of a military, then I am going to boost the strength of my military.

No, it was supposed to be 260,000*, typo.

[The Orson Empire]

Wait, your nation had 620,000 soldiers?

If your nation was allowed to have this large of a military, then I am going to boost the strength of my military.

No, it was supposed to be 260,000*, typo.

I see. That seems a bit more realistic.

[Galnius]

I'm going to change from a tribal state (I'm in France for pity sake) into a state.

[Adurnak]

Just posting this here as well as in the Ic:

Pictures of the Karthelii troops:
-Heavy infantry from the Greek side: http://i.imgur.com/dHz9d8V.jpg (just imagine them in a full torso bronze cuirass, or with chain mail under those center chest pieces).
-Heavy spearman from the Italian side, with heavy peltest behind him: http://i.imgur.com/VwvZRYz.jpg (the spearman has a short sword, but there are corps of soldiers that use longer swords rather than the spear).
-Lighter skirmish cavalry from the foothills Italy, a hardy breed used to broken ground: http://i.imgur.com/wwbbsmT.jpg (This is the closest I could find and they'd basically look like this but with a more oval shaped shield, no mail, and different, more Samnite looking helmets).
-Heavy cavalry that originates from the plain of southern Italy: http://i.imgur.com/qYydUiA.jpg (Usually only a generals unit serving as his body guard).
-Slinger: http://i.imgur.com/x1MaPNv.jpg (usually people from the mountain regions or the Greek side).
-Archer: http://i.imgur.com/EeWrPAi.jpg (slowly being phased in to replace slingers on the battlefield).

Whadaya think guys?

[Forty Twoania]

Nation Name:Tartessos
Capital City:Hispalis (present day Sevilla)
Government Type:Oligarchy
Head of State:King Arganthonios IV
Claimed Territory: http://i.imgur.com/DjkwZfr.png
State/National Religion: Tartessian Mythology
Dominant Religion: Tartessian Mythology
Minority Religion(s): Kanensian Mythology, Phoenitian Mythology
Population: 2,500,000
Military Organization:The Tartessian standing Army is partially professional. All healthy men receive some sort of basic military training at 16 years of age. This training is consider a rite of passage into manhood in Tartessian Culture. Should the reserves be called up to arms all able bodied men are expect to join or pay a large war fine in order to be legally excused from the draft. After the reserves are called up they would then be taken into training camps organized and integrated into the standing army. At peace time only around one third of the Army is professional, the rest of the army is drafted in and then replaced every few years

The Navy is highly trained and is viewed as crucial in order to protect Tartessian commercial interests and Tartessos it's self. Training is brutal and only the best of the best ever make it in to the navy. The navy is completely professional only the rowers are drafted in. To have a position in the navy comes with great prestige and is considered highly honorable in Tartessian society
Military Size:10,000 men in the standing army. Many more reserves can be brought if needed
Fleet Size:50 Quinqueremes, 75 triremes, 50 biremes, 100 monoremes
National Flag:

(Image)

Primary Culture: Tartessian
Accepted Cultures:Hisperian, Kanensian, Phoenician
Primary Import(s): Timber, Silk, Marble, livestock, Pottery, Grains
Primary Export(s): Tin, Copper, Silver, Iron, Bronze, Wine, Olives, fish, wool
Trade Policy: Mostly free trade however every once in a while the government has to intervene and impose tariffs if some foreign industry becomes too successful and begins bankrupting home grown industries
Civil Freedoms:Somewhere in the middle compared to other countries of this Era. Power is mostly in the hands of rich merchant families. However single women are allowed to gain, own and inherit property and wealth but when they marry their wealth becomes shared with their husband.

Brief Description of your nation's History:The Tartessian Civilization rose on the banks the Guadalquivir river some time around the 1 millennium BCE. In OTL Tartessos would develop to become a relatively powerful trading state just be washed away by a tsunami in the early 5th century BCE and become one of the main candidates for Atlantis. However in this timeline that didn't happen so the Tartessos civilization survived and continued taking pride of it's position at the edge of the sea. Tartessos benefited greatly by colonization efforts on the Iberian coastlines by the Kanensians and the Phoenitians gaining two important trading partners. These new trade routes opened Tartessos up to the Mediterranean trade leading to an economic boom. This boom lead to an increased population growth which eventually lead too a food crisis. The food crisis forced the Tartessian nation to expand into lands held by Iberian tribes in order to gain more farmland. However, these expansions would strengthen Tartessos's position as an economic power leading to another cycle of economic fortune, demographic misfortune, and military expansion. This growth has been going on for the past 700 year interrupted by only by the occasional Famine/Plague/War.
Brief Description of your nation's economy:Being one of the oldest civilizations in the Western Mediterranean Tartessos has had plenty of time to expand and improve it's economy. Being relatively rich in mineral wealth it isn't hard for Tartessos to find a buyer. Tartessos owns a large merchant navy that allows it to trade with ports all across the Mediterranean,
Brief Description of your nation's government:Tartessos is ruled by a king elected by a council made up of rich powerful merchant families
Brief Description of your nation's populace:Tartessian society is stratified and complex. Urban life is central in Tartessian culture. The elite have developed a taste for the finer, more exotic things in life leading to a wild nightlife in urban centers especially in the main city of Hispalis, which has a population of 400,000. Due to Tartessos's prosperity in trade even the poor get an occasional taste of luxury at the harvest festival hosted by the rich in the city plaza of Hispalis. The poor generally work in the fields growing wheat for consumption an Mediterranean products for a little bit of profit. Culturally Tartessos has been influenced by the Phoenitians but there is an even greater influence from the conquered Hisperians. The Hisperian and Tartessian cultures have become so mixed that it has become increasingly difficult to tell the difference between the two. Tartessian culture is centered around the sea which can bring both wealth through trade and misfortune through storms and floods.

RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=301358
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[Bujahla]

Nation Name:Tartessos
Capital City:Hispalis (present day Sevilla)
Government Type:Oligarchy
Head of State:King Arganthonios IV
Claimed Territory: http://i.imgur.com/DjkwZfr.png
State/National Religion: Tartessian Mythology
Dominant Religion: Tartessian Mythology
Minority Religion(s): Kanensian Mythology, Phoenitian Mythology
Population: 2,500,000
Military Organization:The Tartessian standing Army is partially professional. All healthy men receive some sort of basic military training at 16 years of age. This training is consider a rite of passage into manhood in Tartessian Culture. Should the reserves be called up to arms all able bodied men are expect to join or pay a large war fine in order to be legally excused from the draft. After the reserves are called up they would then be taken into training camps organized and integrated into the standing army. At peace time only around one third of the Army is professional, the rest of the army is drafted in and then replaced every few years

The Navy is highly trained and is viewed as crucial in order to protect Tartessian commercial interests and Tartessos it's self. Training is brutal and only the best of the best ever make it in to the navy. The navy is completely professional only the rowers are drafted in. To have a position in the navy comes with great prestige and is considered highly honorable in Tartessian society
Military Size:10,000 men in the standing army. Many more reserves can be brought if needed
Fleet Size:50 Quinqueremes, 75 triremes, 50 biremes, 100 monoremes
National Flag:

(Image)

Primary Culture: Tartessian
Accepted Cultures:Hisperian, Kanensian, Phoenician
Primary Import(s): Timber, Silk, Marble, livestock, Pottery, Grains
Primary Export(s): Tin, Copper, Silver, Iron, Bronze, Wine, Olives, fish, wool
Trade Policy: Mostly free trade however every once in a while the government has to intervene and impose tariffs if some foreign industry becomes too successful and begins bankrupting home grown industries
Civil Freedoms:Somewhere in the middle compared to other countries of this Era. Power is mostly in the hands of rich merchant families. However single women are allowed to gain, own and inherit property and wealth but when they marry their wealth becomes shared with their husband.

Brief Description of your nation's History:The Tartessian Civilization rose on the banks the Guadalquivir river some time around the 1 millennium BCE. In OTL Tartessos would develop to become a relatively powerful trading state just be washed away by a tsunami in the early 5th century BCE and become one of the main candidates for Atlantis. However in this timeline that didn't happen so the Tartessos civilization survived and continued taking pride of it's position at the edge of the sea. Tartessos benefited greatly by colonization efforts on the Iberian coastlines by the Kanensians and the Phoenitians gaining two important trading partners. These new trade routes opened Tartessos up to the Mediterranean trade leading to an economic boom. This boom lead to an increased population growth which eventually lead too a food crisis. The food crisis forced the Tartessian nation to expand into lands held by Iberian tribes in order to gain more farmland. However, these expansions would strengthen Tartessos's position as an economic power leading to another cycle of economic fortune, demographic misfortune, and military expansion. This growth has been going on for the past 700 year interrupted by only by the occasional Famine/Plague/War.
Brief Description of your nation's economy:Being one of the oldest civilizations in the Western Mediterranean Tartessos has had plenty of time to expand and improve it's economy. Being relatively rich in mineral wealth it isn't hard for Tartessos to find a buyer. Tartessos owns a large merchant navy that allows it to trade with ports all across the Mediterranean,
Brief Description of your nation's government:Tartessos is ruled by a king elected by a council made up of rich powerful merchant families
Brief Description of your nation's populace:Tartessian society is stratified and complex. Urban life is central in Tartessian culture. The elite have developed a taste for the finer, more exotic things in life leading to a wild nightlife in urban centers especially in the main city of Hispalis, which has a population of 400,000. Due to Tartessos's prosperity in trade even the poor get an occasional taste of luxury at the harvest festival hosted by the rich in the city plaza of Hispalis. The poor generally work in the fields growing wheat for consumption an Mediterranean products for a little bit of profit. Culturally Tartessos has been influenced by the Phoenitians but there is an even greater influence from the conquered Hisperians. The Hisperian and Tartessian cultures have become so mixed that it has become increasingly difficult to tell the difference between the two. Tartessian culture is centered around the sea which can bring both wealth through trade and misfortune through storms and floods.

RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=301358
429 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

changed app took out RL cultures made population smaller

Accpeted.

[Kryskov]

What would be an example of something that goes in the "government policy" section?

[The Orson Empire]

Buj, we really need a map claiming thread, as I am about to make some expansions.

[Kryskov]

Just posting this here as well as in the Ic:

Pictures of the Karthelii troops:
-Heavy infantry from the Greek side: http://i.imgur.com/dHz9d8V.jpg (just imagine them in a full torso bronze cuirass, or with chain mail under those center chest pieces).
-Heavy spearman from the Italian side, with heavy peltest behind him: http://i.imgur.com/VwvZRYz.jpg (the spearman has a short sword, but there are corps of soldiers that use longer swords rather than the spear).
-Lighter skirmish cavalry from the foothills Italy, a hardy breed used to broken ground: http://i.imgur.com/wwbbsmT.jpg (This is the closest I could find and they'd basically look like this but with a more oval shaped shield, no mail, and different, more Samnite looking helmets).
-Heavy cavalry that originates from the plain of southern Italy: http://i.imgur.com/qYydUiA.jpg (Usually only a generals unit serving as his body guard).
-Slinger: http://i.imgur.com/x1MaPNv.jpg (usually people from the mountain regions or the Greek side).
-Archer: http://i.imgur.com/EeWrPAi.jpg (slowly being phased in to replace slingers on the battlefield).

Whadaya think guys?

I like it, pretty creative.

[Kryskov]

Also, what does "Infrastructure" mean?

[Gyrenaica]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cor ... Europe.PNG

How about sapmi?

[Gyrenaica]

Reservation:Republic of Sami
Land Claims:this
Level of Development: State-society
635 - Do not remove this is for tracking purposes.

[Bujahla]

Buj, we really need a map claiming thread, as I am about to make some expansions.

Finland made one. I'll need him to give me the link so I can add to OP cause I realized that two like 30 minutes ago but then I started watching Colbert.

[Adurnak]

Here you go:

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=313575&p=21882343

[The Orson Empire]

Here you go:

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic ... p=21882343

Thanks.

[Reatra]

So Rel. I'm not as free as I thought this weekend. But the war(ish) will happen.

So my elite force will meet one of your invading forces (the smaller ones) and talk to their commander. Be directed to a larger force, eventually to the commander of the whole operation. If it turns to battle my main force is close(ish) so we can war.

[Gyrenaica]

Dropping out...

[Reatra]

Democracy?! Tribal democracy okay. But parliamentary?

[Skappola]

Going to post an app once my power goes back on.

[Relikai]

So Rel. I'm not as free as I thought this weekend. But the war(ish) will happen.

So my elite force will meet one of your invading forces (the smaller ones) and talk to their commander. Be directed to a larger force, eventually to the commander of the whole operation. If it turns to battle my main force is close(ish) so we can war.

Sure but i Need you to do an IC post so we can continue

[Kryskov]

Nation Name: Mediria (Demonym: Mediri)
Population: 9,450,000
National Symbols: Flag, Mediri Sun (Central Figure on flag),
Claimed Territory: http://i.imgur.com/3BhoBTn.png
Capital City: Erbam (Baghdad)

Government Type: Absolute Monarchy (With some semi-autonomous states)
Government Policies: Trade Empire, Expansion, Monarchism
Leader/s: King Mazeem El-Asra

Primary Culture: Mediri
Accepted/Minority Cultures: Yasul (mostly in modern-day Iraqi Kurdistan)
National/Dominant Religion: Mediri Polytheism
Minority Religion/s: Various tribal cults/mythologies

Military Organization: Central, professional army supplemented by levy militia in times of war or great distress.
Army Size: 250,000
Fleet Size: Various lightly armored trade vessels, 20 biremes.

Economic Policy: Market Economics, Centralized Economy
Infrastructure: Centered mainly in between the Tigris and Euphrates. Many bridges, one long trade road running along the Persian Gulf coast, one "Silk Road" being constructed, the Erbam Highway connects the two. Big cities can afford modern, or fairly modern, materials and tech, but many poor areas are still made out of mud and dirt.
Primary Import/s: Rice, Wheat, Iron
Primary Export/s: Gold, Hides, Gypsum

History: The region of Mesopotamia was the birth of civilization. Numbers, writing, music, economics, all essentials were created here. The first Fertile Crescent Civilizations were a collection of city-states, headed in succession by the most dominant cities. In 400 BC, the Samnids, led by Samnis the Great, first united much of the region, extending into Syria and Persia. Samnis governed the city-state of Erbam, and systematically removed from power neighboring city-states. The marriage of Samnis, who was middle-aged and heirless, to the Yasul princess Abesa, assured the Yasul city-state a level of semi-autonomy, with its own mini-economy. During the reign of the Samnid Empire, the Mediri people first generated as a single culture, enforced by royally-mandated education and trade laws, demanding the development of one language. In 100 BC, the Samnid Empire collapsed. Seizing the opportunity, General Osris El-Asra seized the throne after defeating the Yasul people in a civil war in which the Yasul tried to break away. Osris, and his descendants, then stripped the Yasuls of their own economy, merely allowing them tribal governance and authority over tax collection. The Asran Dynasty first saw a large scale amount of trade between the kingdoms of the east and west, making Erbam and the Kingdom of Mediria a large trading hub. The current King, Mazeem, is seeing plans to construct a large highway to connect the strange, foreign lands that surround him. The economy of Mediria is growing, with canals enlarging the agricultural sector and mines increasing gypsum and gold operations. However, with growing empires near him, Mazeem must act swiftly if he wishes to remain a power.
Miscellaneous:

RP Example: (not necessary if you've were in HoE)
429 - Do not remove, for tracking purposes

[Kryskov]

Feedback, commentary on my app appreciated.

[Reatra]

So Rel. I'm not as free as I thought this weekend. But the war(ish) will happen.

So my elite force will meet one of your invading forces (the smaller ones) and talk to their commander. Be directed to a larger force, eventually to the commander of the whole operation. If it turns to battle my main force is close(ish) so we can war.

Sure but i Need you to do an IC post so we can continue

I know. Will do soon. Likely tonight or in the car tomorrow morning.

[The Orson Empire]

Nation Name: Mediria (Demonym: Mediri)
Population: 9,450,000
National Symbols: Flag, Mediri Sun (Central Figure on flag),
Claimed Territory: http://i.imgur.com/3BhoBTn.png
Capital City: Erbam (Baghdad)

Government Type: Absolute Monarchy (With some semi-autonomous states)
Government Policies: Trade Empire, Expansion, Monarchism
Leader/s: King Mazeem El-Asra

Primary Culture: Mediri
Accepted/Minority Cultures: Yasul (mostly in modern-day Iraqi Kurdistan)
National/Dominant Religion: Mediri Polytheism
Minority Religion/s: Various tribal cults/mythologies

Military Organization: Central, professional army supplemented by levy militia in times of war or great distress.
Army Size: 250,000
Fleet Size: Various lightly armored trade vessels, 20 biremes.

Economic Policy: Market Economics, Centralized Economy
Infrastructure: Centered mainly in between the Tigris and Euphrates. Many bridges, one long trade road running along the Persian Gulf coast, one "Silk Road" being constructed, the Erbam Highway connects the two. Big cities can afford modern, or fairly modern, materials and tech, but many poor areas are still made out of mud and dirt.
Primary Import/s: Rice, Wheat, Iron
Primary Export/s: Gold, Hides, Gypsum

History: The region of Mesopotamia was the birth of civilization. Numbers, writing, music, economics, all essentials were created here. The first Fertile Crescent Civilizations were a collection of city-states, headed in succession by the most dominant cities. In 400 BC, the Samnids, led by Samnis the Great, first united much of the region, extending into Syria and Persia. Samnis governed the city-state of Erbam, and systematically removed from power neighboring city-states. The marriage of Samnis, who was middle-aged and heirless, to the Yasul princess Abesa, assured the Yasul city-state a level of semi-autonomy, with its own mini-economy. During the reign of the Samnid Empire, the Mediri people first generated as a single culture, enforced by royally-mandated education and trade laws, demanding the development of one language. In 100 BC, the Samnid Empire collapsed. Seizing the opportunity, General Osris El-Asra seized the throne after defeating the Yasul people in a civil war in which the Yasul tried to break away. Osris, and his descendants, then stripped the Yasuls of their own economy, merely allowing them tribal governance and authority over tax collection. The Asran Dynasty first saw a large scale amount of trade between the kingdoms of the east and west, making Erbam and the Kingdom of Mediria a large trading hub. The current King, Mazeem, is seeing plans to construct a large highway to connect the strange, foreign lands that surround him. The economy of Mediria is growing, with canals enlarging the agricultural sector and mines increasing gypsum and gold operations. However, with growing empires near him, Mazeem must act swiftly if he wishes to remain a power.
Miscellaneous:

RP Example: (not necessary if you've were in HoE)
429 - Do not remove, for tracking purposes

We are going to end up going to war, as one of my goals is to conquer Mesopotamia.

[Bujahla]

Nation Name: Mediria (Demonym: Mediri)
Population: 9,450,000
National Symbols: Flag, Mediri Sun (Central Figure on flag),
Claimed Territory: http://i.imgur.com/3BhoBTn.png
Capital City: Erbam (Baghdad)

Government Type: Absolute Monarchy (With some semi-autonomous states)
Government Policies: Trade Empire, Expansion, Monarchism
Leader/s: King Mazeem El-Asra

Primary Culture: Mediri
Accepted/Minority Cultures: Yasul (mostly in modern-day Iraqi Kurdistan)
National/Dominant Religion: Mediri Polytheism
Minority Religion/s: Various tribal cults/mythologies

Military Organization: Central, professional army supplemented by levy militia in times of war or great distress.
Army Size: 250,000
Fleet Size: Various lightly armored trade vessels, 20 biremes.

Economic Policy: Market Economics, Centralized Economy
Infrastructure: Centered mainly in between the Tigris and Euphrates. Many bridges, one long trade road running along the Persian Gulf coast, one "Silk Road" being constructed, the Erbam Highway connects the two. Big cities can afford modern, or fairly modern, materials and tech, but many poor areas are still made out of mud and dirt.
Primary Import/s: Rice, Wheat, Iron
Primary Export/s: Gold, Hides, Gypsum

History: The region of Mesopotamia was the birth of civilization. Numbers, writing, music, economics, all essentials were created here. The first Fertile Crescent Civilizations were a collection of city-states, headed in succession by the most dominant cities. In 400 BC, the Samnids, led by Samnis the Great, first united much of the region, extending into Syria and Persia. Samnis governed the city-state of Erbam, and systematically removed from power neighboring city-states. The marriage of Samnis, who was middle-aged and heirless, to the Yasul princess Abesa, assured the Yasul city-state a level of semi-autonomy, with its own mini-economy. During the reign of the Samnid Empire, the Mediri people first generated as a single culture, enforced by royally-mandated education and trade laws, demanding the development of one language. In 100 BC, the Samnid Empire collapsed. Seizing the opportunity, General Osris El-Asra seized the throne after defeating the Yasul people in a civil war in which the Yasul tried to break away. Osris, and his descendants, then stripped the Yasuls of their own economy, merely allowing them tribal governance and authority over tax collection. The Asran Dynasty first saw a large scale amount of trade between the kingdoms of the east and west, making Erbam and the Kingdom of Mediria a large trading hub. The current King, Mazeem, is seeing plans to construct a large highway to connect the strange, foreign lands that surround him. The economy of Mediria is growing, with canals enlarging the agricultural sector and mines increasing gypsum and gold operations. However, with growing empires near him, Mazeem must act swiftly if he wishes to remain a power.
Miscellaneous:

RP Example: (not necessary if you've were in HoE)
429 - Do not remove, for tracking purposes

We are going to end up going to war, as one of my goals is to conquer Mesopotamia.

Yay for wars