History of Nations - AH RP [OOC/Always Open]

[Reatra]

I know... so by boat?

Freezes in the winter.

Really? The Bering Strait freezes?!?! I highly doubt that.... how does the shipping get through?!

[The Orson Empire]

Yeah I'll edit that pop up to 60,000? I could only find one other Greek culture to base my off of btw.

So, am I accepted? May I post?

I was thinking, like, a million tops

I'm the Greek analogue that Konstantinopolis is based off; they were a former colony of my nation, Kanensos. I actually assumed that you were one of my former colonies, so if you'd like to go with that, that'd work. You don't have to have any links with me, though; we might just speak the same sort of language, have the same sort of genetics, that's it.

Also, I have a question: am I the only nation that is a democracy?

I'm a "democracy", but basically the worst possible version. Only non-poor, non-slave, citizen, male, adult, non-criminal, non-ostracised people can vote, and when they do, it's usually among an elite; there's not really many people's candidates.

Then I think my nation may be the first true democracy, as all citizens, men and women, are allowed to vote. Only non-citizens (foreigners who have not yet attained citizenship, slaves, and criminals) can't vote.

[Timothia]

I was thinking, like, a million tops

I'm the Greek analogue that Konstantinopolis is based off; they were a former colony of my nation, Kanensos. I actually assumed that you were one of my former colonies, so if you'd like to go with that, that'd work. You don't have to have any links with me, though; we might just speak the same sort of language, have the same sort of genetics, that's it.
I'm a "democracy", but basically the worst possible version. Only non-poor, non-slave, citizen, male, adult, non-criminal, non-ostracised people can vote, and when they do, it's usually among an elite; there's not really many people's candidates.

Then I think my nation may be the first true democracy, as all citizens, men and women, are allowed to vote. Only non-citizens (foreigners who have not yet attained citizenship, slaves, and criminals) can't vote.

To be fair, in a "true" democracy, babies, small children, tourists, criminals, foreigners, and slaves could all vote.

[Rephesus]

Freezes in the winter.

Really? The Bering Strait freezes?!?! I highly doubt that.... how does the shipping get through?!

There is no shipping in the Bering Strait. Literally the only thing above it is the Arctic Ocean. And the Entire Pacific is below it.

Read the article I linked.

[The Orson Empire]

Then I think my nation may be the first true democracy, as all citizens, men and women, are allowed to vote. Only non-citizens (foreigners who have not yet attained citizenship, slaves, and criminals) can't vote.

To be fair, in a "true" democracy, babies, small children, tourists, criminals, foreigners, and slaves could all vote.

In a democracy, all eligible citizens can vote. Notice that I said eligible, as this could mean that a citizen has to reach a certain age requirement to vote. I also said citizen, and the state has the power who to determine who is and isn't a citizen.

[Relikai]

Then I think my nation may be the first true democracy, as all citizens, men and women, are allowed to vote. Only non-citizens (foreigners who have not yet attained citizenship, slaves, and criminals) can't vote.

To be fair, in a "true" democracy, babies, small children, tourists, criminals, foreigners, and slaves could all vote.

Not to mention cows voting not to get slaughtered, chickens voting how many eggs to be taken by humans, plants waving in the air upon a voting call to determine who gets cut for grain

PS. Come on Reatra, dont wanna be waiting another 18 hours for a response from ya

[Reatra]

To be fair, in a "true" democracy, babies, small children, tourists, criminals, foreigners, and slaves could all vote.

Not to mention cows voting not to get slaughtered, chickens voting how many eggs to be taken by humans, plants waving in the air upon a voting call to determine who gets cut for grain

PS. Come on Reatra, dont wanna be waiting another 18 hours for a response from ya

I'M WRITING.... and I have school tomorrow

[Relikai]

Not to mention cows voting not to get slaughtered, chickens voting how many eggs to be taken by humans, plants waving in the air upon a voting call to determine who gets cut for grain

PS. Come on Reatra, dont wanna be waiting another 18 hours for a response from ya

I'M WRITING.... and I have school tomorrow

-cheering mode on-

[Reatra]

THERE! A TINY POST TO GET STUFF STARTED.


RESPOND!

[Nuxipal]

As much as I'd love horses to suddenly appear in North America.. the Bering strait does not freeze. During the ice ages there was a land bridge there, primarily because the water that was covering the shallowest parts of the strait had been locked up in glaciers. At 0-10 CE there was no land bridge. No frozen surface. Nothing, if you tried to cross by boat with horses I'd be all for that. A mongol-turkic tribal confederation in the Great Plains would be interesting. I may have the Mayan collapse happen at some point as well and have large quantities of my population migrate somewhere.

[Rephesus]

As much as I'd love horses to suddenly appear in North America.. the Bering strait does not freeze. During the ice ages there was a land bridge there, primarily because the water that was covering the shallowest parts of the strait had been locked up in glaciers. At 0-10 CE there was no land bridge. No frozen surface. Nothing, if you tried to cross by boat with horses I'd be all for that. A mongol-turkic tribal confederation in the Great Plains would be interesting. I may have the Mayan collapse happen at some point as well and have large quantities of my population migrate somewhere.

Hmm, you're right. For some reason I thought it did in 1 CE, I need to get rid of my 50,000 BCE Mindset

Boats it is!

[Nuxipal]

As much as I'd love horses to suddenly appear in North America.. the Bering strait does not freeze. During the ice ages there was a land bridge there, primarily because the water that was covering the shallowest parts of the strait had been locked up in glaciers. At 0-10 CE there was no land bridge. No frozen surface. Nothing, if you tried to cross by boat with horses I'd be all for that. A mongol-turkic tribal confederation in the Great Plains would be interesting. I may have the Mayan collapse happen at some point as well and have large quantities of my population migrate somewhere.

Hmm, you're right. For some reason I thought it did in 1 CE, I need to get rid of my 50,000 BCE Mindset

Boats it is!

Yes.. bring me horses... and bring me early plague.. bring them to me..

[Reatra]

Hmm, you're right. For some reason I thought it did in 1 CE, I need to get rid of my 50,000 BCE Mindset

Boats it is!

Yes.. bring me horses... and bring me early plague.. bring them to me..

Leave some guys in Siberia for me to find.

Along with America.

[Relikai]

Yes.. bring me horses... and bring me early plague.. bring them to me..

Leave some guys in Siberia for me to find.

Along with America.

Replied, just havent put in the losses, but there are quite light.

[Reatra]

Leave some guys in Siberia for me to find.

Along with America.

Replied, just havent put in the losses, but there are quite light.

Okay... so you KNOW it's my land... why did you invade in the first place?

[Relikai]

Replied, just havent put in the losses, but there are quite light.

Okay... so you KNOW it's my land... why did you invade in the first place?

Cos its "Land War" as explained. Before you invaded its marked under a different nation, and the current target is Shu Land as marked in our shared map. Thus you taking over it, and the invasion is based on old maps, caused such an event. This is a fundamentally flawed doctrine, as like now, it may cause a large nation to be aggrieved over a small piece of land, but in the IC my nation will have to live with it.

[Forty Twoania]

@Fortytwoania, app is good except tone down navy & population a bit (quinqueremes are batshit crazy manpower drains, nobody usually had more than a couple), and no RL cultures. No Greeks, Iberians, etc.

I`ll change the navy however the population is based off of Roman figures from this time period and is suppose to be pretty big. The total population of Roman Iberia was somewhere around 5 million and was concentrated mainly on the southern mediteranian coast due the south having a greater consentration of natural resources and a better conection to mediteranian trade routes. Even though their are no Romans in this timeline I don't think these advantages would change.

And about the cultures I'll change the names of the Greek, Iberians and Phoenicans but I prefer to keep the name Tartessos. Even though they were a real life culture, outside of their name very very little is known about them since tunsami are extremely good at wiping out records so I will basicly be inventing their entire culture like everyone else

If you really want me to I guess I could change the name to Atlantis but after that I dont think I or anyone else in this RP could take my civilization seriously

[Forty Twoania]

@Fortytwoania, app is good except tone down navy & population a bit (quinqueremes are batshit crazy manpower drains, nobody usually had more than a couple), and no RL cultures. No Greeks, Iberians, etc.

I`ll change the navy however the population is based off of Roman figures from this time period and is suppose to be pretty big. The total population of Roman Iberia was somewhere around 5 million and was concentrated mainly on the southern mediteranian coast due the south having a greater consentration of natural resources and a better conection to mediteranian trade routes. Even though their are no Romans in this timeline I don't think these advantages would change.

And about the cultures I'll change the names of the Greek, Iberians and Phoenicans but I prefer to keep the name Tartessos. Even though they were a real life culture, outside of their name very very little is known about them since tunsami are extremely good at wiping out records so I will basicly be inventing their entire culture like everyone else

If you really want me to I guess I could change the name to Atlantis but after that I dont think I or anyone else in this RP could take my civilization seriously

[Reatra]

Okay... so you KNOW it's my land... why did you invade in the first place?

Cos its "Land War" as explained. Before you invaded its marked under a different nation, and the current target is Shu Land as marked in our shared map. Thus you taking over it, and the invasion is based on old maps, caused such an event. This is a fundamentally flawed doctrine, as like now, it may cause a large nation to be aggrieved over a small piece of land, but in the IC my nation will have to live with it.

Ah.

Fun XD

You still think you're fighting a tiny nation as my army hasn't arrived yet, no?

[Alleniana]

I was thinking, like, a million tops

I'm the Greek analogue that Konstantinopolis is based off; they were a former colony of my nation, Kanensos. I actually assumed that you were one of my former colonies, so if you'd like to go with that, that'd work. You don't have to have any links with me, though; we might just speak the same sort of language, have the same sort of genetics, that's it.
I'm a "democracy", but basically the worst possible version. Only non-poor, non-slave, citizen, male, adult, non-criminal, non-ostracised people can vote, and when they do, it's usually among an elite; there's not really many people's candidates.

Then I think my nation may be the first true democracy, as all citizens, men and women, are allowed to vote. Only non-citizens (foreigners who have not yet attained citizenship, slaves, and criminals) can't vote.

Hardly. The definition of a democracy is basically that people vote, so even if you only restricted voting to male citizens over the age of 80, it'd still be a democracy.

Yours is the most democratic democracy, though, if that makes sense.


For Trans-Bering... it's gonna be a hell of a trip. Frozen, hard land in the middle of nowhere, has to produce enough boats to ship an entire race across the not-small sea to another frozen, hard land, most likely in less-than-calm conditions. I'm not sure why you'd want to cross anyway.

@Fortytwoania, app is good except tone down navy & population a bit (quinqueremes are batshit crazy manpower drains, nobody usually had more than a couple), and no RL cultures. No Greeks, Iberians, etc.

I`ll change the navy however the population is based off of Roman figures from this time period and is suppose to be pretty big. The total population of Roman Iberia was somewhere around 5 million and was concentrated mainly on the southern mediteranian coast due the south having a greater consentration of natural resources and a better conection to mediteranian trade routes. Even though their are no Romans in this timeline I don't think these advantages would change.

And about the cultures I'll change the names of the Greek, Iberians and Phoenicans but I prefer to keep the name Tartessos. Even though they were a real life culture, outside of their name very very little is known about them since tunsami are extremely good at wiping out records so I will basicly be inventing their entire culture like everyone else

If you really want me to I guess I could change the name to Atlantis but after that I dont think I or anyone else in this RP could take my civilization seriously

Well, yes, concentrated, but I don't think that 60% would have lived there. It'd leave the rest of Iberia desolate. And don't worry about navy; I confused quinquereme with another type of ship.

Tartessos is fine. Just change Greek, Iberian, etc.

[Relikai]

After the Unification War in IC, my nation wanted an extermination of the NPC, thus it's an army meant to kill, and let the land be purified by blood for settlers to come. The IC nation expected to face up to 300,000 troops, and designed for such a purpose.

The first wave is meant to be defeated by Shu forces, but since you did the hard work, they began the second stage of conquering, while the main force gathered to destroy armies still remained in my territory.

[Reatra]

After the Unification War in IC, my nation wanted an extermination of the NPC, thus it's an army meant to kill, and let the land be purified by blood for settlers to come. The IC nation expected to face up to 300,000 troops, and designed for such a purpose.

The first wave is meant to be defeated by Shu forces, but since you did the hard work, they began the second stage of conquering, while the main force gathered to destroy armies still remained in my territory.

Wait... okay... 300,000 seems like a lot for a place that likely had only five or six million people...

[Nuxipal]

Finished first IC post and first conquest. Updated factbook accordingly.

[Reatra]

Nice use of google maps XD

[Neo-Assyrian Empire]

I'm really sorry for not being active at all, the last week has been pretty crazy. However, I should have time this weekend to actually do stuff in this thread.