History of Nations - AH RP [OOC/Always Open]

[Reatra]

All my lands have been kingdoms so far. Only tribes were when my people first settled hundreds of years ago.

Im talking about the territory you captured, it was assumed under me that a strong established Kingdom existed there, thus my preparation against an organised Kingdom than simply small villages and weak states.

It... Was a kingdom. It was small though. And the river valleys didn't really expand into it therefore giving it less people. Hence my eight month war.

[Relikai]

Im talking about the territory you captured, it was assumed under me that a strong established Kingdom existed there, thus my preparation against an organised Kingdom than simply small villages and weak states.

It... Was a kingdom. It was small though. And the river valleys didn't really expand into it therefore giving it less people. Hence my eight month war.

Yeah eight months is okay. But expect invading the south to be much harder due to terrain and populace. We discussed this much earlier days ago.

[Reatra]

It... Was a kingdom. It was small though. And the river valleys didn't really expand into it therefore giving it less people. Hence my eight month war.

Yeah eight months is okay. But expect invading the south to be much harder due to terrain and populace. We discussed this much earlier days ago.

Oh yeah. You expect the sane from me. Huehue hue.

[Adurnak]

I'm still not on the map btw

[Alleniana]

IMO, I think you're fine as you are, besides, it's more realistic with smaller nations.

Don't you have the big Moroccan nation?

Anyway; new map for my lands (Allen added so I didn't over lap him by mistake) the top two provinces in the Albania region are the new ones that are being colonized. Might have overlapped Latium a little by mistake?
http://i.imgur.com/7PU9geS.png

Huh?
I thought you started off with Greek Epirus, but you don't own any of Greek Epirus, and you currently claim all of Albania + the southern bit of Montenegro.

Populate the world with Chinese and intercultural marriage, sent more Chinese out, send more out, send more out, send more out...

Domination

Enough with the too many people thingy! Jeez looeese!

*loess

1. I'm in France
2. Find a new landing pad
3. F*ck you

1. China owns all
2. China owns everything
3. Give me tribute.

Invent writing
2. Invent numbers & punctuation
3. ???
4. INVENT PROFIT!!!

@ Allen we need teh PVP ruling up sooner than le NPC i reckon

ouioui but me buseh
I've got the NPC one all drawn up, just need to formalise it
I'm still working on what exactly the content of the PvP one will be

[Finland SSR]

Temporary map thread

[ImperialOverLord]

The map will be hard to complete without an accepted players list. It will even harder to continue posting ICly without knowing who exists and who doesn't.

[Adurnak]

Don't you have the big Moroccan nation?

Anyway; new map for my lands (Allen added so I didn't over lap him by mistake) the top two provinces in the Albania region are the new ones that are being colonized. Might have overlapped Latium a little by mistake?
http://i.imgur.com/7PU9geS.png

Huh?
I thought you started off with Greek Epirus, but you don't own any of Greek Epirus, and you currently claim all of Albania + the southern bit of Montenegro.

Too much then? I'll scale it back in next update
Edit: looking at google maps looks like you're right; I guess I was thinking more of the historical region rather than the modern one
Say from roundabouts Byllis to north of Dyrrachium.
Either way, whatever it's called, I was thinking of that area when I said 'Epirus', but yeah I'm going to scale it back anyway

[Alleniana]

Huh?
I thought you started off with Greek Epirus, but you don't own any of Greek Epirus, and you currently claim all of Albania + the southern bit of Montenegro.

Too much then? I'll scale it back in next update
Edit: looking at google maps looks like you're right; I guess I was thinking more of the historical region rather than the modern one

Say from roundabouts Byllis to north of Dyrrachium.
Either way, whatever it's called, I was thinking of that area when I said 'Epirus', but yeah I'm going to scale it back anyway

Ah, well, its size is no issue, I was just confused about your claims. RL Albania + southern Montenegro + Greek Epirus, even would be fine.

[Adurnak]

Too much then? I'll scale it back in next update
Edit: looking at google maps looks like you're right; I guess I was thinking more of the historical region rather than the modern one

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Say from roundabouts Byllis to north of Dyrrachium.
Either way, whatever it's called, I was thinking of that area when I said 'Epirus', but yeah I'm going to scale it back anyway

Ah, well, its size is no issue, I was just confused about your claims. RL Albania + southern Montenegro + Greek Epirus, even would be fine.

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Edit: anyone know what kind of pop Italia would have if not for Rome and it's success?
Because according to Augustus himself there were at least a million people in Rome alone by 0 CE but obviously without Rome's success it'll be a lot lower

[Alleniana]

Ah, well, its size is no issue, I was just confused about your claims. RL Albania + southern Montenegro + Greek Epirus, even would be fine.

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Edit: anyone know what kind of pop Italia would have if not for Rome and it's success?
Because according to Augustus himself there were at least a million people in Rome alone by 0 CE but obviously without Rome's success it'll be a lot lower

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=313356

~4 mil by the 300s, apparently.
However, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_demography
suggests a wide range; from 4 mil to 14 mil. Take your pick.

[Adurnak]

schweet
Edit: anyone know what kind of pop Italia would have if not for Rome and it's success?
Because according to Augustus himself there were at least a million people in Rome alone by 0 CE but obviously without Rome's success it'll be a lot lower

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=313356

~4 mil by the 300s, apparently.
However, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_demography
suggests a wide range; from 4 mil to 14 mil. Take your pick.

Hm, I guess I'll take the lower end of 4 mil then

[ImperialOverLord]

Ah, well, its size is no issue, I was just confused about your claims. RL Albania + southern Montenegro + Greek Epirus, even would be fine.

schweet
Edit: anyone know what kind of pop Italia would have if not for Rome and it's success?
Because according to Augustus himself there were at least a million people in Rome alone by 0 CE but obviously without Rome's success it'll be a lot lower

With the other half of Italy and more I've gone with a fairly conservative 5 million for now.

[Alleniana]

Don't worry, if populations are a bother, I'll genocide you until it gets to a concrete figure. Maybe 0.

[Relikai]

Cos PVP may happen soon lol...

And I just realised. Armies raised by Qin alone rivalled those of Chu (Reatra's entire land), and my territory consists of other states. Considering that China's method of war at this stage is still adequately trained massed armies (Through mandatory conscription), perhaps my military numbers and pop is still considered epic-ly downsized ? lol

[Finland SSR]

So.
We're gonna see how effective our system is in PVP.

[Adurnak]

Let the games begin

[Tuub]

We're on 10-20CE now right?

[Alouite]

I will make an alliance proposal either to Allen of the Confederation of Kanensos, Imperial Overlord of the Tyrrhēnian League or Pandeeria's Azérįk Empire.

[Alleniana]

We're on 10-20CE now right?

oui oui

On PvP; the rough system is that RPers can work it out between themselves, after informing the co-ops/OP that they will be having a war, and if it doesn't work, then ORBATs, strategies, etc. will be posted by both sides and a separate co-op decision made on war's result.

edit: dammit, just realised all my pop figures were based off pre-Roman Greece. Anyone mind if I bump my pop from 2 to 3 mil?

[Relikai]

ok first PvP

Pink = seized lands
Dark Red = Conflict Zone

[Adurnak]

I will make an alliance proposal either to Allen of the Confederation of Kanensos, Imperial Overlord of the Tyrrhēnian League or Pandeeria's Azérįk Empire.

The mighty The Kingdom of Karthellia can into an alliance?

[Alouite]

I will make an alliance proposal either to Allen of the Confederation of Kanensos, Imperial Overlord of the Tyrrhēnian League or Pandeeria's Azérįk Empire.

The mighty The Kingdom of Karthellia can into an alliance?

Sure, as soon as you get accepted. I will probably aim to colonize upper Libya, parts of France and may invade Lowe Spain.

[Nuxipal]

Nation Name: Montival (Montivalian)
Population: 400,000
National Symbols:

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Claimed Territory: http://i.imgur.com/PoD4qtq.png
Capital City: Moxu

Government Type: Elective Monarchy
Government Policies: Expansion by the pen or sword, Protect the wealth of the kingdom, defend against the northern invasions.
Leader/s: High King Llyrin Ik'nal

Primary Culture: Moxua(Culture)/Moxuatl (language)
Accepted/Minority Cultures: Yakim, Vando
National/Dominant Religion: Yuznatl
Minority Religion/s: N/A

Military Organization: Noble Knights, peasant levies
Army Size: 4,000 Noble; 50,000 peasant
Fleet Size: 30 Ships (20 Caribbean, 10 Pacific)

Economic Policy: Free Trade
Infrastructure: City Walls, Roads between cities and major towns,
Primary Import/s: Metals
Primary Export/s: Cocoa, Cotton, Honey

History: The Montivalian Civilization has grown strong in the last several centuries. The region in which there are both flatlands and mountains in close proximity. This has shaped the ideology of many cities in the region. Namely Moxu, which became the cultural hub of the region. Moxu City is situated in a valley several kilometers west of Lake Itzbal(Izabal). The Valley was further cut off by a second series of mountains from a larger floodplain which made up ancient Moxu's domain. Around 140 BCE Moxu and several of its neighbors fought together to repel an invasion by a kingdom to the north. Following their victory in the battle of Moxu Vale, the coalition united as a the High Kingdom of Montival.

The following century and a half consisted primarily of expansion by diplomacy all the cities and tribes that lived in the surrounding area. Llyrin's predecessor, Kamahl II Yokal began the first conquest and found that the southern cities were unprepared for war and were easy conquests. Unfortunately he died in combat in 3 BCE. Llyrin was elected following his death and completed some of his conquests. He is again seeking to add new partners to the High Kingdom's domains.

Miscellaneous: Moxua culture has much more gender equality than other regions at this time. Noble women are eligiable to be elected as High Queen, however none have. Noble women, just like noble men, are expected to learn how to fight and to march to war should they be called upon.

The High Kingdom's Eastern coastline is populated most heavily while the population density drops off as you look westward. The ideologies of individuals change as you move west as well. In the east there is a more mercantile and expansive ideology while in the less populous west there is a more isolationist and agricultural ideology.

RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=303673
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=271009

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Completed. Let me know if I need to add anything else.

[Adurnak]

Btw just a heads up in case you don't read others Ic posts; I sent diplomats to Sicily, Tunisia, and Latium in my first post