History of Nations - AH RP [OOC/Always Open]

[Relikai]

I guess OOC talk just bolsters such facts. Don't worry, without a limit, RE's are the replacement to prevent over-expansion. So make sure you don't think occupied people will take arms for your nation anytime soon.

Why not? If I treat them benevolently, offering them citizenship, allowing them to participate in the democratic process, and guarantee them rights and full protection under the law, then why couldn't they fight for me?

Why? Because some people do not want to be invaded? Do not want to have their loved ones killed by your troops during the expansion process? Do not want to lose their own independent identity? Want to have their trusted men rule and guide them instead of foreigners coming over, killing the ones they trust, and then saying "Oh we'll be fair to you, we'll treat you well" after killing.

[Reatra]

Why not? If I treat them benevolently, offering them citizenship, allowing them to participate in the democratic process, and guarantee them rights and full protection under the law, then why couldn't they fight for me?

Why? Because some people do not want to be invaded? Do not want to have their loved ones killed by your troops during the expansion process? Do not want to lose their own independent identity? Want to have their trusted men rule and guide them instead of foreigners coming over, killing the ones they trust, and then saying "Oh we'll be fair to you, we'll treat you well" after killing.

At least a few generations must pass of VERY EQUAL treatment until they BEGIN to calm down.



And Rel, Imma make a TINY post the respond to, okay?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

How's Scotland doing? Are the Picts open or naw?

[Bujahla]

Why? Because some people do not want to be invaded? Do not want to have their loved ones killed by your troops during the expansion process? Do not want to lose their own independent identity? Want to have their trusted men rule and guide them instead of foreigners coming over, killing the ones they trust, and then saying "Oh we'll be fair to you, we'll treat you well" after killing.

At least a few generations must pass of VERY EQUAL treatment until they BEGIN to calm down.



And Rel, Imma make a TINY post the respond to, okay?

@Oroson, basically this. If you want to harness india, you'll have to subjugated it. But please not to the point where everyone is somehow always 99% of one ethnicity. Like we did that for so many nations in HOM it scared me xD. I don't recall ever discussing that in HOE, but yeah. Point stands, it'll take time to harness them.

[Reatra]

At least a few generations must pass of VERY EQUAL treatment until they BEGIN to calm down.



And Rel, Imma make a TINY post the respond to, okay?

@Oroson, basically this. If you want to harness india, you'll have to subjugated it. But please not to the point where everyone is somehow always 99% of one ethnicity. Like we did that for so many nations in HOM it scared me xD. I don't recall ever discussing that in HOE, but yeah. Point stands, it'll take time to harness them.

Unless China.


Also could I be Ireland or is it taken? I REALLY want to make a colonizing Celtica. Not the name of course.

[Bujahla]

@Oroson, basically this. If you want to harness india, you'll have to subjugated it. But please not to the point where everyone is somehow always 99% of one ethnicity. Like we did that for so many nations in HOM it scared me xD. I don't recall ever discussing that in HOE, but yeah. Point stands, it'll take time to harness them.

Unless China.


Also could I be Ireland or is it taken? I REALLY want to make a colonizing Celtica. Not the name of course.

No second nation until end of Antiquity.

[Reatra]

Unless China.


Also could I be Ireland or is it taken? I REALLY want to make a colonizing Celtica. Not the name of course.

No second nation until end of Antiquity.

Okay.


Guess I'll have to unify China first...

[Relikai]

Why? Because some people do not want to be invaded? Do not want to have their loved ones killed by your troops during the expansion process? Do not want to lose their own independent identity? Want to have their trusted men rule and guide them instead of foreigners coming over, killing the ones they trust, and then saying "Oh we'll be fair to you, we'll treat you well" after killing.

At least a few generations must pass of VERY EQUAL treatment until they BEGIN to calm down.



And Rel, Imma make a TINY post the respond to, okay?

omg just make it ive been waiting hours to respond to your post -.-

[Reatra]

At least a few generations must pass of VERY EQUAL treatment until they BEGIN to calm down.



And Rel, Imma make a TINY post the respond to, okay?

omg just make it ive been waiting hours to respond to your post -.-

I'M BUSY




AND I DID

[The Orson Empire]

At least a few generations must pass of VERY EQUAL treatment until they BEGIN to calm down.



And Rel, Imma make a TINY post the respond to, okay?

@Oroson, basically this. If you want to harness india, you'll have to subjugated it. But please not to the point where everyone is somehow always 99% of one ethnicity. Like we did that for so many nations in HOM it scared me xD. I don't recall ever discussing that in HOE, but yeah. Point stands, it'll take time to harness them.

I thought you were saying that I couldn't recruit them at all, no matter what the circumstances.

This is acceptable, but my conquest of India is occurring over a long period of time- thus, some parts of India will be more subjugated than others. Would I be allowed to recruit from the areas that are subjugated?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Reservation:
Land Claims:The goldish in you know Scotland
Level of Development:Tribal Nation
635 - Do not remove this is for tracking purposes.

[Skappola]

Reservation:
Land Claims:(Light Green area in Croatia, & Bosnia) Is that too much?
Level of Development: State-society
635 - Do not remove this is for tracking purposes.

[Finland SSR]

For those who didn't notice yet, the map claim thread is here - viewtopic.php?f=31&t=313575&view=unread#unread

I will try to update the map today, but I can't give any promises.

[Skappola]

Reservation:
Land Claims:(Light Green area in Croatia, & Bosnia) Is that too much?
Level of Development: State-society
635 - Do not remove this is for tracking purposes.

Seeing as the area I'm in was very recently claimed, I'll retract this.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Nation Name: The High Kingdom of Circinn (Circinns, Pikts)
Population: ~87,000-92,000 (Not sure entirely, open to working on this number)
National Symbols:
-Flag of the High Kingdom
-Boars
-Various Pictish Symbols
-Flag (Will be used later, here for reference)
Claimed Territory: The goldish
Capital City: Skone

Government Type: Loose tribal confederacy
Government Policies: Nothing special, the usual tribal crap. Lots of power lies in the hands of the various chiefs, of the major tribes they are called High Chiefs, the more minor tribal leaders are simply Chiefs.
Leader/s:
-High King Vipoig
-Various High Chiefs and Chiefs

Primary Culture: Piktish
Accepted/Minority Cultures:
-Accepted: N/A
-Minority: Gaels, Celts, Kelts
National/Dominant Religion: Piktish Druidism (Typical Polytheistic Celtic Nonsense)
Minority Religion/s: Other Celtic/Gaelic/Keltic faiths

Military Organization:
The military is organized into three "divisions", however it is barely so. The first "division" is the High King's soldiers, followed by those of the High Chiefs, who are succeeded by the Chiefs'. The High King commands his own forces, while the High Chiefs and Chiefs command their own, however more often then not they swear their fealty to the High King and fight for him. Most men able body men tend to fight in battle if needed by the High King or their High Chief or Chief, however they are not "registered" as official soldiers. Piktish society is highly militaristic, which helps keep the number of men eligible for battle high.
Army Size: 9,975
-High King's Army
--Footman: 1,500
--Archers: 750
-High Chief's Armies
--Footman: 3,000
--Archers: 1,250
-Chiefs' Armies:
--Footman: 2,500
--Archers: 975
Fleet Size:
-5 military ships owned by the High King
-Countless fishing boats and trade ships owned by fishermen, merchants, and the various High Chiefs and Chiefs.

Economic Policy: Each tribe is allowed to determine their own trade policy, however the High King collects a small tariff on imports into his lands, usually around 2.5% of the items worth. This is an uncommon practice, especially among the Chiefs. Some High Chiefs have decided to adopt the same or a similar policy to the High King
Infrastructure: Vastly dirt roads, some "paved" roads in the capital. Bridges are common, but they are not elaborate.
Primary Import/s: Dyes, Luxury Metals, Wine
Primary Export/s: Animal Products, Wool, Iron, Fish

History: Circinn is home to the Pikts and is a tribal confederation home to countless various tribes. The High Kingdom was formed in 106 BCE and has flourished since. They were unified under the Kingdom of Circinn, the namesake for the High Kingdom. Only 15 years after its establishment, the High Kingdom invaded Cumbria to its south, annexing the western half of Southern Scotland (Ayrshire and Cumbria). 4 years later in 87 BCE the Scots invaded Otadinia, annexing the eastern half of Southern Scotland (Lothian). The Pikts waited to expand further for another three and a half decades and in 52 BCE the Pikts turned their attention to the various isles off their coastline. They launched a campaign against the Epidion Chiefdom, located on the Western Isles. This was the first campaign that had required the use of boats, and laid the foundations for the Pickish navy. In 47 BCE the Pikts invaded Orkney, easily conquering the island, which was previously home to a population of 50 or so Cornavians. The city of Skone began to gather attention from the High King, and slowly the city was upgraded from the largely wooden houses to various stone structures. The Castle of Skone, the residence of the High King, was also upgraded, inspired by the architectural wonders of the other European nations. Some of the High Chiefs decided to mimic the actions of the King, and slowly began to develop their various cities and villages to match that of the capital. However, stone structures are largely reserved for military buildings or buildings owned by the High Chiefs and other "wealthy" Pikts.
Miscellaneous:

RP Example: I think the Op Board knows me p well by now, but Forge of Empires is a p solid example.
429 - Do not remove, for tracking purposes

[Kryskov]

Was I accepted?

[Fortunagen]

Nation Name: The High Kingdom of Circinn (Circinns, Picts)
Population: ~87,000-92,000 (Not sure entirely, open to working on this number)
National Symbols:
-Flag of the High Kingdom
-Boars
-Various Pictish Symbols
-Flag (Will be used later, here for reference)
Claimed Territory: The goldish
Capital City: Skone

Government Type: Loose tribal confederacy
Government Policies: Nothing special, the usual tribal crap. Lots of power lies in the hands of the various chiefs, of the major tribes they are called High Chiefs, the more minor tribal leaders are simply Chiefs.
Leader/s:
-High King Vipoig
-Various High Chiefs and Chiefs

Primary Culture: Pictish
Accepted/Minority Cultures:
-Accepted: N/A
-Minority: Gaels, Celts, Kelts
National/Dominant Religion: Pictish Druidism (Typical Polytheistic Celtic Nonsense)
Minority Religion/s: Other Celtic/Gaelic/Keltic faiths

Military Organization:
The military is organized into three "divisions", however it is barely so. The first "division" is the High King's soldiers, followed by those of the High Chiefs, who are succeeded by the Chiefs'. The High King commands his own forces, while the High Chiefs and Chiefs command their own, however more often then not they swear their fealty to the High King and fight for him. Most men able body men tend to fight in battle if needed by the High King or their High Chief or Chief, however they are not "registered" as official soldiers. Pictish society is highly militaristic, which helps keep the number of men eligible for battle high.
Army Size: 9,975
-High King's Army
--Footman: 1,500
--Archers: 750
-High Chief's Armies
--Footman: 3,000
--Archers: 1,250
-Chiefs' Armies:
--Footman: 2,500
--Archers: 975
Fleet Size:
-5 military ships owned by the High King
-Countless fishing boats and trade ships owned by fishermen, merchants, and the various High Chiefs and Chiefs.

Economic Policy: Each tribe is allowed to determine their own trade policy, however the High King collects a small tariff on imports into his lands, usually around 2.5% of the items worth. This is an uncommon practice, especially among the Chiefs. Some High Chiefs have decided to adopt the same or a similar policy to the High King
Infrastructure: Vastly dirt roads, some "paved" roads in the capital. Bridges are common, but they are not elaborate.
Primary Import/s: Dyes, Luxury Metals, Wine
Primary Export/s: Animal Products, Wool, Iron, Fish

History: Circinn is home to the Picts and is a tribal confederation home to countless various tribes. The High Kingdom was formed in 106 BCE and has flourished since. They were unified under the Kingdom of Circinn, the namesake for the High Kingdom. Only 15 years after its establishment, the High Kingdom invaded Cumbria to its south, annexing the western half of Southern Scotland (Ayrshire and Cumbria). 4 years later in 87 BCE the Scots invaded Otadinia, annexing the eastern half of Southern Scotland (Lothian). The Picts waited to expand further for another three and a half decades and in 52 BCE the Picts turned their attention to the various isles off their coastline. They launched a campaign against the Epidion Chiefdom, located on the Western Isles. This was the first campaign that had required the use of boats, and laid the foundations for the Pictish navy. In 47 BCE the Picts invaded Orkney, easily conquering the island, which was previously home to a population of 50 or so Cornavians. The city of Skone began to gather attention from the High King, and slowly the city was upgraded from the largely wooden houses to various stone structures. The Castle of Skone, the residence of the High King, was also upgraded, inspired by the architectural wonders of the other European nations. Some of the High Chiefs decided to mimic the actions of the King, and slowly began to develop their various cities and villages to match that of the capital. However, stone structures are largely reserved for military buildings or buildings owned by the High Chiefs and other "wealthy" Picts.
Miscellaneous:

RP Example: I think the Op Board knows me p well by now, but Forge of Empires is a p solid example.
429 - Do not remove, for tracking purposes

Oh! Want to share religious pantheon?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Oh! Want to share religious pantheon?

We could have a similar one perhaps, somewhat similar to the Roman and Greek pantheons were. However, I'd prefer to have some distinctions. Helps keep our cultures separate.

[Fortunagen]

Oh! Want to share religious pantheon?

We could have a similar one perhaps, somewhat similar to the Roman and Greek pantheons were. However, I'd prefer to have some distinctions. Helps keep our cultures separate.

Just so we don't step on each other's toes OOCly, do you plan on expansion into Ireland or Middle England?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

We could have a similar one perhaps, somewhat similar to the Roman and Greek pantheons were. However, I'd prefer to have some distinctions. Helps keep our cultures separate.

Just so we don't step on each other's toes OOCly, do you plan on expansion into Ireland or Middle England?

Ulster and into Northern Ireland (mainly around Ulster) and Middle England, yes. However, I will focus on one, wait a few decades, and then focus on the other. I will be expanding, but not spastastically.

[Reatra]

Since I'm right there and it's 30 CE it's okay to have overseas colonies, correct? Just not like crazy ones.


Like trading lposts turned to cities?

[Snovatgatovia]

Since I'm right there and it's 30 CE it's okay to have overseas colonies, correct? Just not like crazy ones.


Like trading lposts turned to cities?

So, you are the holder of Eastern Spain eh?

Just trying to play empire builder a little bit-- scouting around and establishing diplomatic relations. If you want to get on our good side I'd suggest proving yourself economically useful to the republic.

[Reatra]

Since I'm right there and it's 30 CE it's okay to have overseas colonies, correct? Just not like crazy ones.


Like trading lposts turned to cities?

So, you are the holder of Eastern Spain eh?

Just trying to play empire builder a little bit-- scouting around and establishing diplomatic relations. If you want to get on our good side I'd suggest proving yourself economically useful to the republic.

I'm Southern China XD

Although I have more forest that Northern China (Relikai) so I'm more navy-based.

[Snovatgatovia]

So, you are the holder of Eastern Spain eh?

Just trying to play empire builder a little bit-- scouting around and establishing diplomatic relations. If you want to get on our good side I'd suggest proving yourself economically useful to the republic.

I'm Southern China XD

Although I have more forest that Northern China (Relikai) so I'm more navy-based.

lol funny coincidence, was just looking for whoever held the territory and pretending that it is unexplored land IC.

[Reatra]

I'm Southern China XD

Although I have more forest that Northern China (Relikai) so I'm more navy-based.

lol funny coincidence, was just looking for whoever held the territory and pretending that it is unexplored land IC.

In 30 CE, Spain is unexplored for you? You're Sicily, correct?