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by Ghondra » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:32 am
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by Neo-Assyrian Empire » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:38 am
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by Ghondra » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:39 am
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by Neo-Assyrian Empire » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:43 am
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by Ghondra » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:44 am
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by Neo-Assyrian Empire » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:46 am
Ghondra wrote:Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:Yeah. It was worth the wait
And probably when Ramsey accidentally killed the Civie. I think it just perfectly showed the chaos of the attack and the panic it caused in everyone.
That was the idea I was trying to convey
So when can you get the ball rolling on the Invasion?
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by Ptolemais » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:47 am
by New Jordslag » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:48 am
Ptolemais wrote:Well damnit, Persica entered the war. That is going to influence events in Helvetia, particularly the war hawks... Chief Representative Tsunemori is only barely keeping them at bay, for the sake of not starting another bloody war. If Persica is joining the fray and our main trading partner is now seriously threatened it looks like the war hawks will win out.
So I hear you're having supply line troubles Neo? How about the Helvetian Navy secures those for ya?
by Neo-Assyrian Empire » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:49 am
Ptolemais wrote:Well damnit, Persica entered the war. That is going to influence events in Helvetia, particularly the war hawks... Chief Representative Tsunemori is only barely keeping them at bay, for the sake of not starting another bloody war. If Persica is joining the fray and our main trading partner is now seriously threatened it looks like the war hawks will win out.
So I hear you're having supply line troubles Neo? How about the Helvetian Navy secures those for ya?
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by Ghondra » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:49 am
Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:Ghondra wrote:That was the idea I was trying to convey
So when can you get the ball rolling on the Invasion?
Probably in a little bit. Right now, I'm just trying to figure out what I want to do, as in whether or not I should cover the same events you posted from the Prussen POV or just continue on after. I might do a blend of both, to be honest.
Ptolemais wrote:Well damnit, Persica entered the war. That is going to influence events in Helvetia, particularly the war hawks... Chief Representative Tsunemori is only barely keeping them at bay, for the sake of not starting another bloody war. If Persica is joining the fray and our main trading partner is now seriously threatened it looks like the war hawks will win out.
So I hear you're having supply line troubles Neo? How about the Helvetian Navy secures those for ya?
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by Ptolemais » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:51 am
New Jordslag wrote:Welp, if Helvetia's in, the Warhawks inItalyJordslag-Valim might win out...
Ghondra wrote:Perhaps a nice set of dents on those new ships would...convince you to avoid the supply lines?
by New Jordslag » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:53 am
Ptolemais wrote:New Jordslag wrote:Welp, if Helvetia's in, the Warhawks inItalyJordslag-Valim might win out...
On which side...?Ghondra wrote:Perhaps a nice set of dents on those new ships would...convince you to avoid the supply lines?
Who knows, the way Helvetia is, it will be a pissing match between the noble houses to provide the best ships and protection. They would relish in the action, as you can already see with one of our most rambunctious nobles
by Ghondra » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:53 am
New Jordslag wrote:Ptolemais wrote:Well damnit, Persica entered the war. That is going to influence events in Helvetia, particularly the war hawks... Chief Representative Tsunemori is only barely keeping them at bay, for the sake of not starting another bloody war. If Persica is joining the fray and our main trading partner is now seriously threatened it looks like the war hawks will win out.
So I hear you're having supply line troubles Neo? How about the Helvetian Navy secures those for ya?
Welp, if Helvetia's in, the Warhawks inItalyJordslag-Valim might win out...
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by Ptolemais » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:57 am
Ghondra wrote:Okay Neo we really need to discuss some things on the Logistical scale. First off, as Cymrea has stated, Ghondra and Prussenija is divided between 4000 miles of open sea, open sea that holds a significant part of Ghondra's submarine fleet that survived the initial attacks on our Naval Assets in the Northern Rhunic Ocean, not to mention that in terms of Modern Warfare, supplies will run dry in a relatively short amount of time, and we got the home advantage, you meanwhile are located on the 'away' part of said 4000 miles, and supplies will run short soon enough.
by Ghondra » Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:00 pm
Ptolemais wrote:Ghondra wrote:Okay Neo we really need to discuss some things on the Logistical scale. First off, as Cymrea has stated, Ghondra and Prussenija is divided between 4000 miles of open sea, open sea that holds a significant part of Ghondra's submarine fleet that survived the initial attacks on our Naval Assets in the Northern Rhunic Ocean, not to mention that in terms of Modern Warfare, supplies will run dry in a relatively short amount of time, and we got the home advantage, you meanwhile are located on the 'away' part of said 4000 miles, and supplies will run short soon enough.
From my understanding, Prussenija would have had significant supplies stockpiled on their island. So the initial invasion is completely realistic supply-wise, but as the war goes on and supplies need to be increasingly shipped in from the mainland and subject to submarine havoc, it be more difficult. However, you will be risking sinking neutral cargo ships as well. Don't forget how the US got involved in WW1
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by Neo-Assyrian Empire » Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:01 pm
Ghondra wrote:Okay Neo we really need to discuss some things on the Logistical scale. First off, as Cymrea has stated, Ghondra and Prussenija is divided between 4000 miles of open sea, open sea that holds a significant part of Ghondra's submarine fleet that survived the initial attacks on our Naval Assets in the Northern Rhunic Ocean, not to mention that in terms of Modern Warfare, supplies will run dry in a relatively short amount of time, and we got the home advantage, you meanwhile are located on the 'away' part of said 4000 miles, and supplies will run short soon enough.
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by Ghondra » Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:03 pm
Ptolemais wrote:Ghondra wrote:Okay Neo we really need to discuss some things on the Logistical scale. First off, as Cymrea has stated, Ghondra and Prussenija is divided between 4000 miles of open sea, open sea that holds a significant part of Ghondra's submarine fleet that survived the initial attacks on our Naval Assets in the Northern Rhunic Ocean, not to mention that in terms of Modern Warfare, supplies will run dry in a relatively short amount of time, and we got the home advantage, you meanwhile are located on the 'away' part of said 4000 miles, and supplies will run short soon enough.
From my understanding, Prussenija would have had significant supplies stockpiled on their island. So the initial invasion is completely realistic supply-wise, but as the war goes on and supplies need to be increasingly shipped in from the mainland and subject to submarine havoc, it be more difficult. However, you will be risking sinking neutral cargo ships as well. Don't forget how the US got involved in WW1
Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:Ghondra wrote:Okay Neo we really need to discuss some things on the Logistical scale. First off, as Cymrea has stated, Ghondra and Prussenija is divided between 4000 miles of open sea, open sea that holds a significant part of Ghondra's submarine fleet that survived the initial attacks on our Naval Assets in the Northern Rhunic Ocean, not to mention that in terms of Modern Warfare, supplies will run dry in a relatively short amount of time, and we got the home advantage, you meanwhile are located on the 'away' part of said 4000 miles, and supplies will run short soon enough.
In the beginning, there will be plenty of supplies, since North Bretton was basically a fortress. Plus, looting from any remaining Ghondran bases would aid the war machine. However, once the war turns into a stalemate, and the supplies in Midland run low, it could spell trouble for the Prussens. If anything, this would make them desperate and try to punch through the Ghondran lines that could either turn out really good or really bad.
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by Neo-Assyrian Empire » Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:06 pm
Ghondra wrote:Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:In the beginning, there will be plenty of supplies, since North Bretton was basically a fortress. Plus, looting from any remaining Ghondran bases would aid the war machine. However, once the war turns into a stalemate, and the supplies in Midland run low, it could spell trouble for the Prussens. If anything, this would make them desperate and try to punch through the Ghondran lines that could either turn out really good or really bad.
Perhaps the assault on McDowd pass was motivated by the Prussen Forces running out of supplies policing the occupied territories?
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by Ptolemais » Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:07 pm
Ghondra wrote:Nearly everyone who borders the Rhunic Ocean is at war with Ghondra, not only that but Persica and all of Brettonia has cut off all manners of trade with Evora. But then again we could risk the ire of Falconmont and Aqruthia. (Algie is with me... I think)
Anyways we've probably gonna need a spreadsheet or something on who is siding with which side.
by Ghondra » Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:13 pm
Ptolemais wrote:Ghondra wrote:Nearly everyone who borders the Rhunic Ocean is at war with Ghondra, not only that but Persica and all of Brettonia has cut off all manners of trade with Evora. But then again we could risk the ire of Falconmont and Aqruthia. (Algie is with me... I think)
Anyways we've probably gonna need a spreadsheet or something on who is siding with which side.
I don't recall Persica cutting off trade, just that they would engage in military action against anyone that lands on the mainland. The area where Prussenija would be transporting cargo would likely be a very well travelled area for international shipping, as there are tons of countries still trading with Taehan/Prussenija that aren't involved in the war and have to go through that area of ocean, otherwise it becomes much more expensive to go around the middle continent. So, if you engage in unrestricted submarine warfare in the region, which could cripple Prussen supply lines, you will undoubtedly be sinking more than a few Jordslag, Falconmont, Aqruthia Alegeharia and EUP affiliated civilian ships. You basically have to make the same choice Wilhelm did in WW1; unrestricted sub warfare to cripple Entente supplies or restricted warfare that would only annoy the same supply lines.
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by Ptolemais » Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:26 pm
Ghondra wrote:Well perhaps the Prussens could have a signal that track all their supply convoys in the Northern Rhunic, and it could be purchased from the black market? It could be a nice addition to the Espionage and Information Warfare theaters of the war.
And btw, Persica basically declared war without actually it, because as you might've known, NEO IS INVADING BRETTONIA! Meaning that a state of war now exists between Persica and Prussenija because they are attacking the mainland, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it the norm for you to cut of trade with the guys you're at war with?
And about the others, I admit that using the policy of unrestricted submarine warfare is a dangerous path that will be risky and will piss off others in the long-run, but at this point Ghondra is stuck between a rock and a very, very hard place, so we'll probably use the strategy.
by Ghondra » Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:29 pm
Ptolemais wrote:Ghondra wrote:Well perhaps the Prussens could have a signal that track all their supply convoys in the Northern Rhunic, and it could be purchased from the black market? It could be a nice addition to the Espionage and Information Warfare theaters of the war.
And btw, Persica basically declared war without actually it, because as you might've known, NEO IS INVADING BRETTONIA! Meaning that a state of war now exists between Persica and Prussenija because they are attacking the mainland, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it the norm for you to cut of trade with the guys you're at war with?
And about the others, I admit that using the policy of unrestricted submarine warfare is a dangerous path that will be risky and will piss off others in the long-run, but at this point Ghondra is stuck between a rock and a very, very hard place, so we'll probably use the strategy.
1. I guess that's up to Neo, but that would be a bit silly if they know they are being subject to sub warfare. Also complicates it if shipping is done by private corporations, not the government.
2. Correct, but you said Evora, not Prussenija. Persica, as far as i'm aware, is still trading with Taehan, Kolterung and Helvetia at least.
3. That's fair, it was the same difficult decision Emperor Wilhelm II made in WW1, he rolled the dice and ended up losing the house though, perhaps it will turn out differently here
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by Cymrea » Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:46 pm
Ptolemais wrote:Well damnit, Persica entered the war. That is going to influence events in Helvetia, particularly the war hawks... Chief Representative Tsunemori is only barely keeping them at bay, for the sake of not starting another bloody war. If Persica is joining the fray and our main trading partner is now seriously threatened it looks like the war hawks will win out.
So I hear you're having supply line troubles Neo? How about the Helvetian Navy secures those for ya?
by Ghondra » Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:47 pm
Cymrea wrote:Ptolemais wrote:Well damnit, Persica entered the war. That is going to influence events in Helvetia, particularly the war hawks... Chief Representative Tsunemori is only barely keeping them at bay, for the sake of not starting another bloody war. If Persica is joining the fray and our main trading partner is now seriously threatened it looks like the war hawks will win out.
So I hear you're having supply line troubles Neo? How about the Helvetian Navy secures those for ya?
Not entering he war. I tried to be very clear about that. Persica has no interest beyond keeping foreigners from landing on and/or occupying the Brettonian mainland - no threats, no campaigns. Purely defensive.
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by Cymrea » Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:48 pm
Ghondra wrote:Nearly everyone who borders the Rhunic Ocean is at war with Ghondra, not only that but Persica and all of Brettonia has cut off all manners of trade with Evora. But then again we could risk the ire of Falconmont and Aqruthia. (Algie is with me... I think)
Anyways we've probably gonna need a spreadsheet or something on who is siding with which side.
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