A World in Chaos: An Alt-Earth RP (OOC/Dead)

[Cymrea]

I'm thinking one of two things for remaining land on the map:

1) We simply have a second round of claims, negotiated with neighbours and adjudicated by Ghondra and his Co-OP(s), until the map is divvied up, or;

2) unclaimed land is considered NPC, gets divided into little bite-size pieces and becomes the object of most of our initial RPing.

Personally, I would like to run with the first. That way, all interactions are between players and there isn't just a pile of stand alone roleplaying against non-existent governments. It would definitely require a solid effort at making sure everyone gets a reasonable share. Also, I think if we did this and left our populations the same, our densities would decrease significantly - which is a good thing.

EDIT: It occurs to me we could do a bit of both. Have a couple/few NPC nations (available for any future apps), and expand our initial claims. I'mma do up a prospective map....

[Alegeharia]

I'm thinking one of two things for remaining land on the map:

1) We simply have a second round of claims, negotiated with neighbours and adjudicated by Ghondra and his Co-OP(s), until the map is divvied up, or;

2) unclaimed land is considered NPC, gets divided into little bite-size pieces and becomes the object of most of our initial RPing.

Personally, I would like to run with the first. That way, all interactions are between players and there isn't just a pile of stand alone roleplaying against non-existent governments. It would definitely require a solid effort at making sure everyone gets a reasonable share. Also, I think if we did this and left our populations the same, our densities would decrease significantly - which is a good thing.

EDIT: It occurs to me we could do a bit of both. Have a couple/few NPC nations (available for any future apps), and expand our initial claims. I'mma do up a
prospective map....

I'm a co op and I concur with your edit

[Ptolemais]

I'm thinking one of two things for remaining land on the map:

1) We simply have a second round of claims, negotiated with neighbours and adjudicated by Ghondra and his Co-OP(s), until the map is divvied up, or;

2) unclaimed land is considered NPC, gets divided into little bite-size pieces and becomes the object of most of our initial RPing.

Personally, I would like to run with the first. That way, all interactions are between players and there isn't just a pile of stand alone roleplaying against non-existent governments. It would definitely require a solid effort at making sure everyone gets a reasonable share. Also, I think if we did this and left our populations the same, our densities would decrease significantly - which is a good thing.

EDIT: It occurs to me we could do a bit of both. Have a couple/few NPC nations (available for any future apps), and expand our initial claims. I'mma do up a prospective map....

I wouldn't mind having some overseas territories, but would not want to expand my homeland much. Maybe the island to my east at most.

[Alegeharia]

I'm thinking one of two things for remaining land on the map:

1) We simply have a second round of claims, negotiated with neighbours and adjudicated by Ghondra and his Co-OP(s), until the map is divvied up, or;

2) unclaimed land is considered NPC, gets divided into little bite-size pieces and becomes the object of most of our initial RPing.

Personally, I would like to run with the first. That way, all interactions are between players and there isn't just a pile of stand alone roleplaying against non-existent governments. It would definitely require a solid effort at making sure everyone gets a reasonable share. Also, I think if we did this and left our populations the same, our densities would decrease significantly - which is a good thing.

EDIT: It occurs to me we could do a bit of both. Have a couple/few NPC nations (available for any future apps), and expand our initial claims. I'mma do up a prospective map....

I wouldn't mind having some overseas territories, but would not want to expand my homeland much. Maybe the island to my east at most.

I'll either ally the box next to me if there will be one or just take the rest of the continent XD

[Cymrea]

Here's what I threw together (and Ptol, because I know how much you LOVE wraparound maps! ), including some NPCs to play with:




One or part of the NPCs as drawn will end up being Falconmont, like as not, so it's all prospective at this point.

EDIT: Notes on prospective map changes.
- Helvetia wraps around to the east. Not a big expansion, as I expected Ptol would prefer.
- Aqruthia extends south to border Alegeharia.
- Alegeharia expands to fill the southern marches.
- New Cobastheia's claim is pretty big and his app is pending so no changes.
- The EUP expands to the west.
- Prussenija fills up the north of Evora.
- Athartha claims some oceanic island territories including the southern half of the central island shared with Prussenija.
- Ghondra gains the archipelago in southern Kaea and islands west of Alegeharia.
- Persica expands south.
- Jordslag-Valim gains northern marches, following the contours of Kaea's central mountin range.
- Andoria extends further south and gains full control of the islands south of Persica.
- Jiăde also expands south, surrounding the large easter bay.

[Alegeharia]

Here's what I threw together (and Ptol, because I know how much you LOVE wraparound maps! ), including some NPCs to play with:

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Granted we can do this currently we are not allowed to take continents.

[Renetopia]

Hm. Just trying to figure out population and such. All you guys have such large populations and economies. It's like everyone is a powerhouse lol. I want to play a small country, but if I went with what I consider small, like 30million, i'd be a pebble in the grand scheme of things where everyone is around 1billion, so i'll probably have to go bigger than that.

Anywho, working on an application.

Personally, I think 600 million should be the viable cap, since we'll have a bunch of those anyway. And kudos to all who went even lower. Those are the nations I want in AEGIS.

I have a population of only 40 million. And I'm also interested in joining the AEGIS (when it'll... you know... exist).

I'll play the role as this world's version of Japan.

[Alegeharia]

Personally, I think 600 million should be the viable cap, since we'll have a bunch of those anyway. And kudos to all who went even lower. Those are the nations I want in AEGIS.

I have a population of only 40 million. And I'm also interested in joining the AEGIS (when it'll... you know... exist).

I'll play the role as this world's version of Japan.

I end up a bit of everything but I'm currently 1 of the superpowers here

[Cymrea]

Personally, I think 600 million should be the viable cap, since we'll have a bunch of those anyway. And kudos to all who went even lower. Those are the nations I want in AEGIS.

I have a population of only 40 million. And I'm also interested in joining the AEGIS (when it'll... you know... exist).

I'll play the role as this world's version of Japan.

You're Jiăde, yes? Noted for later, man.

[Ptolemais]

Oh god... AEGIS again... Perhaps I should try OMNI again. I would like to see at least 3 alliance of comparable power. Last time AEGIS was completely overpowered with all the world's superpowers (militaristic Japan on steroids, USA as economic powerhouse and RULE BRITANNIA). That can't happen again

[La Republica De Filipinas]

I have a population of only 40 million. And I'm also interested in joining the AEGIS (when it'll... you know... exist).

I'll play the role as this world's version of Japan.

You're Jiăde, yes? Noted for later, man.

Can Aqruthia into AEGIS?

[Renetopia]

Oh god... AEGIS again... Perhaps I should try OMNI again. I would like to see at least 3 alliance of comparable power. Last time AEGIS was completely overpowered with all the world's superpowers (militaristic Japan on steroids, USA as economic powerhouse and RULE BRITANNIA). That can't happen again

What do you mean by again?

[Alegeharia]

Does anyone want to start an alliance so we can be like UNSC or something?

[Neo-Assyrian Empire]

Any fellow dictatorships want to form an alliance?

Also, as I said yesterday, I'm finishing up my app

[Alegeharia]

Any fellow dictatorships want to form an alliance?

Also, as I said yesterday, I'm finishing up my app

I think we only have 1 other dictator XD

[Cymrea]

Oh god... AEGIS again... Perhaps I should try OMNI again. I would like to see at least 3 alliance of comparable power. Last time AEGIS was completely overpowered with all the world's superpowers (militaristic Japan on steroids, USA as economic powerhouse and RULE BRITANNIA). That can't happen again

What do you mean by again?

Totally different RP. lol

This AEGIS will be populated by most of the smaller powers.

[Cymrea]

You're Jiăde, yes? Noted for later, man.

Can Aqruthia into AEGIS?

Very likely.

[Neo-Assyrian Empire]

Any fellow dictatorships want to form an alliance?

Also, as I said yesterday, I'm finishing up my app

I think we only have 1 other dictator XD

I know. That's the point, considering that most nations are (I'm assuming) anti-dication and would probably try to "liberate" our nations.

[Cymrea]

I think we only have 1 other dictator XD

I know. That's the point, considering that most nations are (I'm assuming) anti-dication and would probably try to "liberate" our nations.

Meh. We need at least one guy to have the twirly mustache and say, "Mwahahahaha!"

[Neo-Assyrian Empire]

I know. That's the point, considering that most nations are (I'm assuming) anti-dication and would probably try to "liberate" our nations.

Meh. We need at least one guy to have the twirly mustache and say, "Mwahahahaha!"

You've found him! Myehehehehe... *Curls mustache maniacally*

[New Jordslag]

Can Aqruthia into AEGIS?

Very likely.

I'm not small, but...

Can Jordslag into Aegis? I'm like this world's Canada. I'm Ghondra's hat.

[Ptolemais]

Ok, so this is what happens when I have 4 hours in between classes. I have compiled stats based off available application data. One thing I learned from this exercise is that most players have no idea what GDP per capita means.

ECONOMY

Capitalist:
Ghondra
Persica
Athartha
Alegeharia
Helvetia
EUP
Aqruthia
Andoria
Jordslag-Valim

Socialist:
Jiăde (free market socialism...?)
Falconmont ( ^ )

Communist:
None

GOVERNMENT

Democratic:
Alegeharia
Ghondra
Athartha
Jiăde
Aqruthia
Andoria
Falconmont

Authoritarian:
Persica
Helvetia
EUP
Prussenija
Jordslag-Valim

POPULATION (in millions)
Alegeharia - 1250
Athartha - 1000
Jordslag-Valim - 950
Andoria - 910
Falconmont - 734
Ghondra - 650
Persica - 550
Prussenija - 471
Aqruthia - 274
Helvetia - 85.5
EUP - 75
Jiăde - 40

Total world population of approximately 7billion with only these nations.

GDP PER CAPITA
Helvetia - 84,500
Jiăde - 64,646
Ghondra - 34,287
Athartha - 34,072
Jordslag-Valim - 31,534
Alegeharia - 29,875
Persica - 24,875
EUP - 19,639
Falconmont - 15,513
Aqruthia - N/A
Andoria - N/A
Prussenija - N/A

GDP TOTAL (in trillions)
Persica - 89
Alegeharia - 74
Ghondra - 45
Athartha - 34
Falconmont - 23.6
EUP - 19.5
Jordslag-Valim - 10.8
Helvetia - 7.2
Jiăde - 2.5
Aqruthia - N/A
Andoria - N/A
Prussenija - N/A

ACTIVE MILITARY (in millions)
Athartha - 57 (5.7% percent of population...)
Ghondra - 32.5 (5.0%)
Falconmont - 10.5 (1.4%)
Alegeharia - 7 (0.56%)
Persica - 5.5 (1%)
Aqruthia - 4.5 (1.6%)
Jordslag-Valim - 4 (0.4%) (and 22,000 planes, almost 2x the US Air Force!)
Helvetia - 1 (1.2%)
Jiăde - 0.3 (0.75%)
EUP - 0.55 (0.73%)
Prussenija - N/A
Andoria - N/A

[New Jordslag]

Ok, so this is what happens when I have 4 hours in between classes. I have compiled stats based off available application data. One thing I learned from this exercise is that most players have no idea what GDP per capita means.

ECONOMY

Capitalist:
Ghondra
Persica
Athartha
Alegeharia
Helvetia
EUP
Aqruthia
Andoria
Jordslag-Valim

Socialist:
Jiăde (free market socialism...?)
Falconmont ( ^ )

Communist:
None

GOVERNMENT

Democratic:
Alegeharia
Ghondra
Athartha
Jiăde
Aqruthia
Andoria
Falconmont

Authoritarian:
Persica
Helvetia
EUP
Prussenija
Jordslag-Valim

POPULATION (in millions)
Alegeharia - 1250
Athartha - 1000
Jordslag-Valim - 950
Andoria - 910
Falconmont - 734
Ghondra - 650
Persica - 550
Prussenija - 471
Aqruthia - 274
Helvetia - 85.5
EUP - 75
Jiăde - 40

Total world population of approximately 7billion with only these nations.

GDP PER CAPITA
Helvetia - 84,500
Jiăde - 64,646
Ghondra - 34,287
Athartha - 34,072
Jordslag-Valim - 31,534
Alegeharia - 29,875
Persica - 24,875
EUP - 19,639
Falconmont - 15,513
Aqruthia - N/A
Andoria - N/A
Prussenija - N/A

GDP TOTAL (in trillions)
Persica - 89
Alegeharia - 74
Ghondra - 45
Athartha - 34
Falconmont - 23.6
EUP - 19.5
Jordslag-Valim - 10.8
Helvetia - 7.2
Jiăde - 2.5
Aqruthia - N/A
Andoria - N/A
Prussenija - N/A

ACTIVE MILITARY (in millions)
Athartha - 57 (5.7% percent of population...)
Ghondra - 32.5 (5.0%)
Falconmont - 10.5 (1.4%)
Alegeharia - 7 (0.56%)
Persica - 5.5 (1%)
Aqruthia - 4.5 (1.6%)
Jordslag-Valim - 4 (0.4%) (and 22,000 planes, almost 2x the US Air Force!)
Helvetia - 1 (1.2%)
Jiăde - 0.3 (0.75%)
EUP - 0.55 (0.73%)
Prussenija - N/A
Andoria - N/A

Yeah, my apologies. Back when I wrote that, everybody else had even more planes. I'll go fix my app.

[New Jordslag]

Ghondie, next time you post a picture of Jordslagi police battling Protestors, ask me first. It's polite, and I wasn't planning on playing my own nation anyway. But, if I must, I must. Thankies.

MY SIGNUP:
Nation Name: The Kingdom of Jordslag.
RP Nation Name: The Union of Jordslag-Valim. (Think of Denmark-Norway. And just call it Jordslag-Valim.)
Form of Government: Constitutional Monarchy.
Economic System: Free Market Capitalism.
Political Ideology: Royalist.
Capital City: Elska
Largest City: Dýrlingur
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Government: (Head of State, Head of Government)
King of Jordslag, Arch-Duke of Valim Piyotr II
National Language: Jordslagi (Norwegian), 40%
Valimi (Icelandic), 20%
Biorchi (Greenlandic), 10%
Mixed, 30%
Demonym: Jordslagi, Valimi, Biorchan. (Which one depends on your ethnicity.)
Legislature: The Royal Jordslagi Court
The Duke's Council of Valim
The Elders of the Biorchan

(These are the three Parliaments of the three union members.)
Population: 475,000,000
Population Density: 380/km
Territory:

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Flag: Union Flag
Ethnicities: Jordslagi, Valimi, Biorchan
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GDP: 10,829,720,000,000
GDP/Capita: 31,534
Currency: The Kronen
Exchange Rate to USD: 1 Kronen = 20 USD
Main Exports: Steel, Gems, Oil
Main Imports: Food, Weapons, Cloth
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Military: 15,000,000 men (15% active duty

Navy: 5,000,000 men (500,000 men active), 130 ships
Army: 7,000,000 men (700,000 active)
Air Force:

3,000,000 men (300,000 active), 2,200 planes
Tech Level: Early PMT
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A Brief History of My Nation:
The first to be inhabited, and by far the oldest, land in the Union is Biorchi, land of eternal snow. Located in the north of the country, it has been inhabited since the beginning of Human Memory. They lived peaceful lives, divided into small clans, fishing and hunting their way through life. Then Men from the East came. Nobody quite knows what land they came from or why they came, but come they did. They created a Kingdom, in the central part of the lands now forming the Union, and then started ruining the peace of the region. They destroyed any indigenous villages in the center who dared defy them. The Biorchan, for their part, could only sadly watch on, pitying the villagers there, and feeling glad it wasn't them. Fearing they would turn North Next, the Biorchan ended their banning of any organized army, and formed militia groups, going out with their hunting weapons to patrol the border with the Strangers, who called themselves the 'Jonseegi'. Luckily for them, the Strangers turned South, to conquer villages there, and the militias went home.
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Meanwhile, in the south, innumerous tribes of crazed, cannibalistic savages called the Veflemi tore each other apart in their Mountainous Homeland. That is, until the Jonseegi came. Their organized armies began patrolling the borders of the south, claiming any and all land they found for themselves. So, of course, the Veflemi, crazy as they were, ambushed their armies. In wildly uneven battles, Dozens of Veflemi armed with merely Sharpened sticks and Heavy Stones would die at the hands of their Metal Using foes. However, unlike the armies, more Veflemi were always there to replace them. Two entire armies collapsed before the Jonseegi pulled out of there. It was one of their worst defeats. Feeling angered at the sight of their hundreds of dead kin, the Veflemi now poured over the border, chasing after the armies, and quite literally trampling any villages they found in their way. The deeper they got into the Jonseegi's stolen land, however, the stiffer resistance came. In the end, the once-innumerous Veflemi were forced to turn back by terrified armies fighting desperately for their very lives. Soon, a Peace Treaty was signed, giving the Veflemi choice parts of Southern Jonseegi land, in exchange for a mutual defense pact that still stands today. Feeling safe with the terrifying Veflemi at their side, the Jonseegi fell into an era of peace, for hundreds of years.
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Now it is the Middle Ages. Over the years, Veflemi and Jonseegi language and ethnicity have changed, making the Veflemi now the semi-civilized Vanimi, and turning the once all-powerful and imperialistic Jonseegi into a proud but Over-Worked Bureaucracy, and changing their name to the Jorsavi. The Jorsavi, by this point, are no longer quite-Eastern, but not-quite-yet Western, being a mix of the original invaders and the Indigenous peoples. The genetics of the Vanimi remain the same, but they have picked up several Jorsavi habits and customs, and become more civilized by contact with them. Now then, this is a time where the era of peace is at the end. Not daring to even think of attacking the south again, the Jorsavi turn their greedy eyes North, to the Biorchan. The first incursion into Biorchan land is forced to turn back before they even make it 10 miles, due to the snowstorm. The next Incursion is smarter, and comes right as a snowstorm is ending, and brings more supplies. The Biorchan, realizing this incursion is more dangerous, pick up their weapons, and, thanks to numerous ambushes and the skill of Biorchan archers, drive off the Jorsavi. The Third Incursion is a bit more successful. It does mostly the same things as the Second, but this time it brings less weapons, to hint to the Biorchan that it comes in peace. The Biorchan, thankfully, get the message, and a few clans begin trade with the Jorsavi. Slowly, Jorsavi influence spreads throughout the Biorchan, until the Biorchan clans are little more then Jorsavi Protectorates. Soon, it peacefully brings them into the Union, and gives them a Parliament, the Elders of the Biorchan. Fast-forward to Modern Times.
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Since the middle ages, the Union has faced 20 minor insurgencies, and 3 major ones, and defeated them all. Most were by independent-minded Vanimi, who are, by now, called Valimi. They thought they had received enough of 'the benefits of colonization', and wanted no more Union Control. Of course, since not all Valimi felt this way, they failed. The Jorsavi, for their part, are now called the Jordslagi. The language change is mainly due to interbreeding with the Biorchan, who have not changed at all, except in numbers. Valimi and Biorchan numbers have shrunk greatly, while Jordslagi numbers have greatly grown. This is due to the fact that a increasing number of Biorchan and Valimi are marrying Jordslagi, to receive the benefits of living in Jordslag, the most fertile and prosperous and happy part of the land. There is currently a major insurgency going on in Biorchi. It is the longest running insurgency in the history of the union, mainly because it is hard to trek across the snowy lands of Biorchi. The Rebels currently control Biorchi's second-largest city, Taalakoit, which Union forces are now laying siege to. The economy is at a boom in Valima and Jordslag right now, while it has stabilized in Biorchi. Now that the inside is stable, for the most part, the union is attempting to establish contact with other countries.

Here, I fixed it and adjusted it.

[Neo-Assyrian Empire]

Here's what I threw together (and Ptol, because I know how much you LOVE wraparound maps! ), including some NPCs to play with:

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One or part of the NPCs as drawn will end up being Falconmont, like as not, so it's all prospective at this point.

EDIT: Notes on prospective map changes.
- Helvetia wraps around to the east. Not a big expansion, as I expected Ptol would prefer.
- Aqruthia extends south to border Alegeharia.
- Alegeharia expands to fill the southern marches.
- New Cobastheia's claim is pretty big and his app is pending so no changes.
- The EUP expands to the west.
- Prussenija fills up the north of Evora.
- Athartha claims some oceanic island territories including the southern half of the central island shared with Prussenija.
- Ghondra gains the archipelago in southern Kaea and islands west of Alegeharia.
- Persica expands south.
- Jordslag-Valim gains northern marches, following the contours of Kaea's central mountin range.
- Andoria extends further south and gains full control of the islands south of Persica.
- Jiăde also expands south, surrounding the large easter bay.

Could Prussenija still have the gap in the north? I was planning on having a random event spark a war between the NPC there and Prussenija.