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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:07 pm

Reatra wrote:And Hannover, Investments are welcomed, send a letter, I'd prefer small factories (too early for the big ones) along the coast and some help with mines.


Cool. I will send you a letter with my first IC post.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:07 pm

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Ahh I see. If you want some investment, France could help :)

You should invest in us rather than California. You'll get a better deal, we're more desperate.


What nation are you again?
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Postby Reatra » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:09 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:You should invest in us rather than California. You'll get a better deal, we're more desperate.


What nation are you again?


The tiny one north of me with fifteen times less people.
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Postby Jamessonia » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:11 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:You should invest in us rather than California. You'll get a better deal, we're more desperate.


What nation are you again?

New Ireland. We occupy Washington and most of Oregon.

Reatra wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
What nation are you again?


The tiny one north of me with fifteen times less people.

Remember the Alamo.
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Postby Reatra » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:13 pm

Jamessonia wrote:
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The tiny one north of me with fifteen times less people.

Remember the Alamo.



*coughthealamowaslostcough*
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Postby Jamessonia » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:15 pm

Reatra wrote:
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Remember the Alamo.



*coughthealamowaslostcough*

But the war was won!

I think. To be honest, I know almost nothing about Texan history.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:16 pm

Jamessonia wrote:
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What nation are you again?

New Ireland. We occupy Washington and most of Oregon.



Oh sure, we will invest in you as well. What do you need?
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Postby Reatra » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:18 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:New Ireland. We occupy Washington and most of Oregon.



Oh sure, we will invest in you as well. What do you need?


What's the quality of French firearms and cannon?
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Postby Jamessonia » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:19 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:New Ireland. We occupy Washington and most of Oregon.



Oh sure, we will invest in you as well. What do you need?

We'd lease you a lot of land on which to build mines, lumber mills, etc. Most of the land won't have any white settlers, only Indians. You can have all profits with low taxes in exchange for a guarantee of independence and maybe some mercenaries? We can hash it out in the IC, but that's basically what we need, diplomatic solidarity and military assistance.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:20 pm

Reatra wrote:
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Oh sure, we will invest in you as well. What do you need?


What's the quality of French firearms and cannon?


Believe it or not, the French are one of the best at making artillery and firearms. They are always ahead in everything.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:21 pm

Jamessonia wrote:
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Oh sure, we will invest in you as well. What do you need?

We'd lease you a lot of land on which to build mines, lumber mills, etc. Most of the land won't have any white settlers, only Indians. You can have all profits with low taxes in exchange for a guarantee of independence and maybe some mercenaries? We can hash it out in the IC, but that's basically what we need, diplomatic solidarity and military assistance.


Sure. Interesting the deal though, sounds very desperate. Who are you defending your independence against?
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Postby Jamessonia » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:23 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:We'd lease you a lot of land on which to build mines, lumber mills, etc. Most of the land won't have any white settlers, only Indians. You can have all profits with low taxes in exchange for a guarantee of independence and maybe some mercenaries? We can hash it out in the IC, but that's basically what we need, diplomatic solidarity and military assistance.


Sure. Interesting the deal though, sounds very desperate. Who are you defending your independence against?

California. We could lease you a lot of untapped mountain land full of iron and copper for say, 25 or 50 years? That's a lot of profit to be had. We'll also tax French merchants much less than other merchants, as well as tax your total earnings much less.
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Postby Reatra » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:29 pm

BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!

California will allow you to build mines, quarries, and lumber mills with no tax WITHOUT a guarantee of independence, along with a few French guns!


Honestly Cali's got more potential to invest in, more manpower and labor force, more resources (just in general, plus greater diversity) and massive untapped lands beyond the Sierra Nevada!
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Postby Reatra » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:31 pm

Oh, and James, I've got the reason why you hate me.


Oregon-Washington was claimed by Britain, Spain, and Russia. Then Mexico instead of Spain, then California. When you broke away you were so busy fighting Britain that we slipped in and colonized part of the land we claimed. You think it should be yours! We think it should stay ours and that you should be ours too!
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Postby Jamessonia » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:34 pm

Reatra wrote:BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!

California will allow you to build mines, quarries, and lumber mills with no tax WITHOUT a guarantee of independence, along with a few French guns!


Honestly Cali's got more potential to invest in, more manpower and labor force, more resources (just in general, plus greater diversity) and massive untapped lands beyond the Sierra Nevada!

Fine, we'll match the no tax in that case. And though California does have more manpower, we have massive amounts of untouched land as well. Not to mention the wild Indian country just to our east is ripe for the picking.

Anyway, France can invest in both of us.

Reatra wrote:Oh, and James, I've got the reason why you hate me.


Oregon-Washington was claimed by Britain, Spain, and Russia. Then Mexico instead of Spain, then California. When you broke away you were so busy fighting Britain that we slipped in and colonized part of the land we claimed. You think it should be yours! We think it should stay ours and that you should be ours too!

Ok, that can work.

I may be setting up a conference between our nations in the future to try and sort it out. You know as well as I do that in an all out war you would win. But you should also know that it would anger not only any powers investing in New Ireland, but the massive Irish population on the East Coast as well. That wouldn't be good for you, diplomatically and economically.
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“We are convinced that liberty without socialism is privilege, injustice; and that socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality.”
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Postby Jamessonia » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:36 pm

Also, if diplomacy goes badly, I may start talking to the Mexicans about a potential alliance.
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Postby Reatra » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:37 pm

Jamessonia wrote:
Reatra wrote:BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!

California will allow you to build mines, quarries, and lumber mills with no tax WITHOUT a guarantee of independence, along with a few French guns!


Honestly Cali's got more potential to invest in, more manpower and labor force, more resources (just in general, plus greater diversity) and massive untapped lands beyond the Sierra Nevada!

Fine, we'll match the no tax in that case. And though California does have more manpower, we have massive amounts of untouched land as well. Not to mention the wild Indian country just to our east is ripe for the picking.

Anyway, France can invest in both of us.


As long as he doesn't guarantee you, I'm fine. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


Reatra wrote:Oh, and James, I've got the reason why you hate me.


Oregon-Washington was claimed by Britain, Spain, and Russia. Then Mexico instead of Spain, then California. When you broke away you were so busy fighting Britain that we slipped in and colonized part of the land we claimed. You think it should be yours! We think it should stay ours and that you should be ours too!

Ok, that can work.

I may be setting up a conference between our nations in the future to try and sort it out. You know as well as I do that in an all out war you would win. But you should also know that it would anger not only any powers investing in New Ireland, but the massive Irish population on the East Coast as well. That wouldn't be good for you, diplomatically and economically.



I know... but Imperialism! And plus, only really Massachusetts has even contacted me from the East, for at least a half-century the East won't really matter to me. The Russian would love it, because we always give their merchants a great deal, Canada, depending on our relations, would like it too, or not.



Question, do natives get citizenship in New Ireland?
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Postby Jamessonia » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:39 pm

Reatra wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:Fine, we'll match the no tax in that case. And though California does have more manpower, we have massive amounts of untouched land as well. Not to mention the wild Indian country just to our east is ripe for the picking.

Anyway, France can invest in both of us.


As long as he doesn't guarantee you, I'm fine. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:



Ok, that can work.

I may be setting up a conference between our nations in the future to try and sort it out. You know as well as I do that in an all out war you would win. But you should also know that it would anger not only any powers investing in New Ireland, but the massive Irish population on the East Coast as well. That wouldn't be good for you, diplomatically and economically.



I know... but Imperialism! And plus, only really Massachusetts has even contacted me from the East, for at least a half-century the East won't really matter to me. The Russian would love it, because we always give their merchants a great deal, Canada, depending on our relations, would like it too, or not.



Question, do natives get citizenship in New Ireland?

He had better guarantee me, or else the deal's off.

No, natives do not get citizen ship, mainly because we haven't even touched a good part of our land. The Irish and the Indians typically leave each other alone.
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“We are convinced that liberty without socialism is privilege, injustice; and that socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality.”
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:41 pm

Jamessonia wrote:
Reatra wrote:BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!

California will allow you to build mines, quarries, and lumber mills with no tax WITHOUT a guarantee of independence, along with a few French guns!


Honestly Cali's got more potential to invest in, more manpower and labor force, more resources (just in general, plus greater diversity) and massive untapped lands beyond the Sierra Nevada!

Fine, we'll match the no tax in that case. And though California does have more manpower, we have massive amounts of untouched land as well. Not to mention the wild Indian country just to our east is ripe for the picking.

Anyway, France can invest in both of us.



Well, that sounds even better! So other than economic development (which investment naturally brings), what else do you want for such proposal?
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Postby Reatra » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:42 pm

Jamessonia wrote:
Reatra wrote:
As long as he doesn't guarantee you, I'm fine. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:




I know... but Imperialism! And plus, only really Massachusetts has even contacted me from the East, for at least a half-century the East won't really matter to me. The Russian would love it, because we always give their merchants a great deal, Canada, depending on our relations, would like it too, or not.



Question, do natives get citizenship in New Ireland?

He had better guarantee me, or else the deal's off.

No, natives do not get citizen ship, mainly because we haven't even touched a good part of our land. The Irish and the Indians typically leave each other alone.


Well, they do in Cali, so a possible CB I have against you is that I could have a tribe that crosses borders complain about abuse...

I could fabricate quite a bit, the main one would be that you are in land claimed by Cali, even before your existence.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:42 pm

Reatra wrote:BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!

California will allow you to build mines, quarries, and lumber mills with no tax WITHOUT a guarantee of independence, along with a few French guns!


Honestly Cali's got more potential to invest in, more manpower and labor force, more resources (just in general, plus greater diversity) and massive untapped lands beyond the Sierra Nevada!


Damn, that's nice as well. You guys make France feel special :blush:

So what do you want in exchange for those proposals?
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Postby Jamessonia » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:44 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:Fine, we'll match the no tax in that case. And though California does have more manpower, we have massive amounts of untouched land as well. Not to mention the wild Indian country just to our east is ripe for the picking.

Anyway, France can invest in both of us.



Well, that sounds even better! So other than economic development (which investment naturally brings), what else do you want for such proposal?

All we want is diplomatic and military protection, and all the industry to be turned over back to us when the lease is done. The length of the lease can be determined in the IC, but we're willing to go as long as 50 or 75 years. But that point can be subject to change. Not to mention that you can claim whatever lands you like east of us as colonies, and you can ship things from the interior to our ports.
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Postby Reatra » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:50 pm

France, just know, that by investing in either of us you're kind of choosing a side.


We hate each other, and I want to conquer him...
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Postby Jamessonia » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:50 pm

Reatra wrote:France, just know, that by investing in either of us you're kind of choosing a side.


We hate each other, and I want to conquer him...

Not necessarily. He can invest in both.
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“We are convinced that liberty without socialism is privilege, injustice; and that socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality.”
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Postby Reatra » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:52 pm

Jamessonia wrote:
Reatra wrote:France, just know, that by investing in either of us you're kind of choosing a side.


We hate each other, and I want to conquer him...

Not necessarily. He can invest in both.


But guaranteeing you, even with the industry, would make US hate him.

And vise versa.
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