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by Quirina » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:08 am
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Generic Info
Nation Name: The Ligurian Republic
Homeland Population: 100,000
Imperial Population: 5,450
Location/Claims: Genova, Monaco
Capital City: Genova
Government Info
Government Type: The Ligurian Republic is a five-man constitutional Directorial republic)
Ideology: Classical liberal republicanism
Leader/s: THE LIGURIAN DIRECTORATE
- Giustiniano Monteforte (Doge of Genoa, President of Ligurian Senate, General Director of the Ligurian Directorate)
- Claudio Mirabella (Director for Foreign Affairs of the Ligurian Directorate)
- Polidoro Bifulco (Director for Finance and Trade of the Ligurian Directorate)
- Tommaso Zani (Director for Security of the Ligurian Directorate)
- Livio Cugini (Director for Public Works of the Ligurian Directorate)
Population Info
Religion: Roman Catholic
Ethnicity: Genoese, Florentine
Main/Accepted Culture(s): French, other Italians
Other Cultures: Austrian, German, Swiss
Military Info
Army: Civil Guards (100 men per city, 50 per town), Regimente (1,000-strong men, accompanied with cavalry and artillery attachments)
Navy:
- 23rd Flotilla (1 3rd-rate ship-of-the-line, 2 brigs, 3 sloops)
- 17th Squadron (7 galleys, 2 brigs)
Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: Ligurian agriculture has increased its specialisation pattern in high-quality products (flowers, wine, olive oil) and has thus managed to maintain the gross value-added per worker at a level much higher than the national average. The value of flower production represents over 75% of the agriculture sector turnover, followed by animal farming (11.2%) and vegetable growing (6.4%). Banking was one of the most efficient source of revenue as loans and deposits are handed to Genoese bankers. After the subsequent fall of Venice under Austrian rule, Genoa became the new banking center in the Mediterranean.
Goals: The Genoese aims to be the main economic power in the Mediterranean as far as the Lowlands and Central Europe is concerned. The Ligurians had been the most economically wealthy Italian maritime republic since the fall of Venice in 1797. Although the Austrians can still continue Venetian banking and trade, its revenues will be shifted to the Austrian realm, not to themselves. Unlike the Genoese who enjoy relative independence, thanks to the adoption of a pro-French stance, French-inspired government and French-advised Constitution.
History: Genoa continued its slow decline in the 18th century. In 1742 the last possession of the Genoese in the Mediterranean, the island fortress of Tabarka, was lost to the Bey of Tunis.
Genoa reluctantly entered into the War of the Austrian succession in 1745. The Genoese supported the Bourbon French and Spain in order to prevent their mortal enemy the Kingdom of Sardinia from annexing the Mark of Finale Ligure, which would cut the republic in half. This decision resulted in a string of disasters— surrender to the Austrians on 6 September 1746 and the occupation of the city. There was a great popular insurrection in December 1746, precipitated by a boy named Giovan Battista Perasso and nicknamed Balilla, who threw a stone at an Austrian official and became a national hero to later generations. The Austrian were expelled, but returned for an unsuccessful Siege of Genoa in 1747. At least Genoa retained Finale in the Peace of Aix-la-Chapelle. Being unable to retain its rule in Corsica, where the rebel Corsican Republic was proclaimed in 1755, in 1768 Genoa was forced by the endemic rebellion to sell claim to Corsica to the French and so Corsica was ceded in the Treaty of Versailles of 1768.
An economic revival in the 1780s took place. A new Directorate was elected from the aristocratic few by the popular majority after a new Constitution was drawn and ratified by popular referendum.
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by Monkeykind » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:55 am

by The Grand Republic of Hannover » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:12 pm
Generic Info
Nation Name: The Kingdom of France
Symbols: (ex. Flag, Coat of Arms, National Anthem, personifications, etc.)
Homeland Population: (population of everyone considered a citizen)
Imperial Population: (include population of colonies)
Location/Claims:
Capital City: Versailles (De Facto) - Paris
Government Info
Government Type: Absolute Monarchy
Ideology: (Refer to this)
Leader/s: (Head of State, Head of Government, etc.)
Population Info
Religion: Roman Catholicism
Ethnicity:
Main/Accepted Culture(s): (ex. IRL-UK would be English, Scottish; only cultures that are dominant and the gov't favors)
Other Cultures: (ex. IRL-UK would have been Irish, Welsh, etc ; cultures that aren't accepted by the gov't/people)
Military Info
Army: (branches, number of troops, quality of army, etc,)
Navy: (branches, number of troops, quality of navy, etc,)
Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy:
Goals:
History:
RP Sample: (required)
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by Neo-Assyrian Empire » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:19 pm

Generic Info
Nation Name: La République de l'Ouest (The Western Republic)
Symbols: Flag (Subject to Change) and Anthem
Homeland Population: ~600,000 (Exact numbers unknown)
Imperial Population: ~600,000
Location/Claims: Illinois and Wisconsin (Including the Upper Peninsula of Michigan)
Capital City: Chicago
Government Info
Government Type: Constitutional Federal Republic
Ideology: Patriotism, Liberalism
Leader/s: Président Thybault Leblanc
Population Info
Religion: Roman Catholicism
Ethnicity: French and Native American
Main/Accepted Culture(s): French
Other Cultures: Local tribal cultures
Military Info
Army: The army is divided into two divisions: L'Armée de l'Ouest and Milice Nationale de l'Ouest, the Western Army and the National Western Militia. The army is well equipped, with most troops being given muskets, though some are equipped with the Kentucky Long Rifle. The militia, on the other hand, are armed with muskets at best. There are around 10,000 soldiers in the army, while there are 5,000 in the militia
Navy: Le Marine de l'Ouest is the only naval division at the moment. It has 31 vessels, mostly old galleys that were captured during the revolution.
Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: The Republic relies heavily on fur trapping and trade with other nations to support its economy. The economy will suffer if either of these begun to slow down to a halt.
Goals: Create a single nation around the Great Lakes and spread the French culture around the region.
History: Le République de l'Ouest started out as a territory of New France, providing the Empire with furs and other valuable commodities. After the Seven Year's War, when the territories were transferred to Britain, the French citizens of the North West Territory were angered by the change of government.
Years later, in 1776, the French along Lake Michigan began to fight against the British rule over the territory, feeling empowered by the recent gains made by the Continental Congress to the east. The first conflict occurred when the colonists, under the command of Louis Burnell, attacked Fort Saint-Louis. The sudden attack caught the soldiers off guard, allowing the colonists to overrun the fort and seize its arsenal.
Over the next four years, the French colonists launched several attacks on the British, securing the territories of what we know as the Upper Peninsula, along with Wisconsin and Illinois. However, the rebels did not win every fight. Three months after an Illini Council declared the Republic independent, In the winter of 1778, British vessels laid siege to Chicago. For three nights, the fleet bombarded the proclaimed capital.
However, through determination, the republic survived. On August 1st, 1779, the British surrendered the territory to the Colonists and acknowledged their sovereignty. From here on, the Illini Council acted as the entire government, with Chancelier Lawrence Cavelier acting as Head of State. This government presided over the Republic for three years, until 1782, when Président Benoit Anders, a war hero, was elected to office. Through Anders, a peaceful approach to natives living in the Republic was formed, while he focused on building up a large navy to patrol the Great Lakes.
Now, the Republic is under the control of Thybault Leblanc, who wishes to expand the Republic's power and spread French culture throughout the Great Lakes and North America as a whole.
RP Sample: Link!
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General Information
<G> Is the national currency. <G> 1 = $1.6
Political Compass: Economic Left/Right: 1
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -.31
Veni, Vidi, Vici
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by Lingang » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:49 pm
Generic Info
Nation Name: Union Republic of Carolina and West Florida
Symbols:
Flag of Carolina and West Florida. Semper Fi. (motto) Anthem
Homeland Population: 625,810
Imperial Population: NA
Location/Claims: Carolina and West Florida in red
Capital City: Charleston
Government Info
Government Type: Federal Republic
Ideology: (Refer to this) Liberal Conservatism, Nationalism
Leader/s: President Edward Rutledge
Population Info
Religion: Protestantism, Baptism
Ethnicity: White (English, Scottish, German), Black (West & Central African), Native American
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Southern American, English-variant
Other Cultures: Scottish, Irish, West African
Military Info
Army:
Army of Carolina: 10,000 troops
The standard army. The army is of moderate size, but consists of very fierce and proud fighters. They are equipped with muskets and rifles, along with the saber. Horses are often used in battle. Carolina & West Florida has created a draft policy, in that during times of war all men over 18 must go into the army.
West Florida National Guard: 6,000 troops
The West Florida National Guard is a small yet elite force, employed by the government to handle the most difficult of military tasks. The force is made up of many Spanish men, but some free Blacks have also joined the Guard.
Navy:
Carolina National Navy: 50 ships in total
The navy consists of many captured British ships, but some Carolina made ones are present. The ships include Sloops-of-War, Man 'O War's, and Frigates.
Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: Carolina & West Flordia is a mixed economy. In South Carolina, the economy has gone from farming to a slightly industrial state, but in Georgia and West Florida, the economy is agrarian, relying on farming and plantations. Slavery is quite prominent in the Southern states, specifically West Florida and Georgia.
Goals: Keep West Florida in the Union. Improve relations with NC, re-unify the Carolinas. Become the superpower of the South, preserve culture.
History:
1783: The Treaty of Paris effectively splits the Thirteen British Colonies. The Federal State of South Carolina is an independent nation.
1786: South Carolina annexes Georgia under the Savanna Conference. The Union Republic of Carolina is born.
1790: Carolina and Florida dispute for the western Florida territory. A brief skirmish ensues, with Carolinian victory.
1791: Florida agrees to give Western Florida to Carolina. West Florida is admitted as the third state, and the Union Republic of Carolina and West Florida is formed.
1795: The dispute of slavery is brought up in the 12th Congressional Session. Some in the nation suggest that slavery should be outlawed, just as some other nations have done. Amid pressure from the outside world to ban slavery, the Carolina government reassures the people that slavery is a neccessary part of society.
1800: A large slave revolt occurs in West Florida. The casualties are high, and results in the implementation of the slave codes.
RP Sample: (required) http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?t=291954
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by Chihuahua y Tejas » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:04 pm
Quirina wrote:
Generic Info
Nation Name: The Ligurian Republic
Homeland Population: 100,000
Imperial Population: 5,450
Location/Claims: Genova, Monaco
Capital City: Genova
Government Info
Government Type: The Ligurian Republic is a five-man constitutional Directorial republic)
Ideology: Classical liberal republicanism
Leader/s: THE LIGURIAN DIRECTORATE
- Giustiniano Monteforte (Doge of Genoa, President of Ligurian Senate, General Director of the Ligurian Directorate)
- Claudio Mirabella (Director for Foreign Affairs of the Ligurian Directorate)
- Polidoro Bifulco (Director for Finance and Trade of the Ligurian Directorate)
- Tommaso Zani (Director for Security of the Ligurian Directorate)
- Livio Cugini (Director for Public Works of the Ligurian Directorate)
Population Info
Religion: Roman Catholic
Ethnicity: Genoese, Florentine
Main/Accepted Culture(s): French, other Italians
Other Cultures: Austrian, German, Swiss
Military Info
Army: Civil Guards (100 men per city, 50 per town), Regiments (4 1,000-strong men, accompanied with cavalry and artillery attachments)
Navy:
- 23rd Flotilla (1 3rd-rate ship-of-the-line, 2 brigs, 3 sloops)
- 20th Squadron (1 2nd-rate ship-of-the-line, 3 brigs, 4 galleys)
- 17th Squadron (7 galleys, 2 brigs)
Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: Ligurian agriculture has increased its specialisation pattern in high-quality products (flowers, wine, olive oil) and has thus managed to maintain the gross value-added per worker at a level much higher than the national average. The value of flower production represents over 75% of the agriculture sector turnover, followed by animal farming (11.2%) and vegetable growing (6.4%). Banking was one of the most efficient source of revenue as loans and deposits are handed to Genoese bankers. After the subsequent fall of Venice under Austrian rule, Genoa became the new banking center in the Mediterranean.
Goals:
History:
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Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:Generic Info
Nation Name: La République de l'Ouest (The Western Republic)
Symbols: Flag (Subject to Change) and Anthem
Homeland Population: ~600,000 (Exact numbers unknown)
Imperial Population: ~600,000
Location/Claims: Illinois and Wisconsin (Including the Upper Peninsula of Michigan)
Capital City: Chicago
Government Info
Government Type: Constitutional Federal Republic
Ideology: Patriotism, Liberalism
Leader/s: Président Thybault Leblanc
Population Info
Religion: Roman Catholicism
Ethnicity: French and Native American
Main/Accepted Culture(s): French
Other Cultures: Local tribal cultures
Military Info
Army: The army is divided into two divisions: L'Armée de l'Ouest and Milice Nationale de l'Ouest, the Western Army and the National Western Militia. The army is well equipped, with most troops being given muskets, though some are equipped with the Kentucky Long Rifle. The militia, on the other hand, are armed with muskets at best. There are around 10,000 soldiers in the army, while there are 5,000 in the militia
Navy: Le Marine de l'Ouest is the only naval division at the moment. It has 31 vessels, mostly old galleys that were captured during the revolution.
Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: The Republic relies heavily on fur trapping and trade with other nations to support its economy. The economy will suffer if either of these begun to slow down to a halt.
Goals: Create a single nation around the Great Lakes and spread the French culture around the region.
History: Le République de l'Ouest started out as a territory of New France, providing the Empire with furs and other valuable commodities. After the Seven Year's War, when the territories were transferred to Britain, the French citizens of the North West Territory were angered by the change of government.
Years later, in 1776, the French along Lake Michigan began to fight against the British rule over the territory, feeling empowered by the recent gains made by the Continental Congress to the east. The first conflict occurred when the colonists, under the command of Louis Burnell, attacked Fort Saint-Louis. The sudden attack caught the soldiers off guard, allowing the colonists to overrun the fort and seize its arsenal.
Over the next four years, the French colonists launched several attacks on the British, securing the territories of what we know as the Upper Peninsula, along with Wisconsin and Illinois. However, the rebels did not win every fight. Three months after an Illini Council declared the Republic independent, In the winter of 1778, British vessels laid siege to Chicago. For three nights, the fleet bombarded the proclaimed capital.
However, through determination, the republic survived. On August 1st, 1779, the British surrendered the territory to the Colonists and acknowledged their sovereignty. From here on, the Illini Council acted as the entire government, with Chancelier Lawrence Cavelier acting as Head of State. This government presided over the Republic for three years, until 1782, when Président Benoit Anders, a war hero, was elected to office. Through Anders, a peaceful approach to natives living in the Republic was formed, while he focused on building up a large navy to patrol the Great Lakes.
Now, the Republic is under the control of Thybault Leblanc, who wishes to expand the Republic's power and spread French culture throughout the Great Lakes and North America as a whole.
RP Sample: Link!
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Finished up the app.
Lingang wrote:Generic Info
Nation Name: Union Republic of Carolina and West Florida
Symbols:
Flag of Carolina and West Florida. Semper Fi. (motto) Anthem
Homeland Population: 625,810
Imperial Population: NA
Location/Claims: Carolina and West Florida in red
Capital City: Charleston
Government Info
Government Type: Federal Republic
Ideology: (Refer to this) Liberal Conservatism, Nationalism
Leader/s: President Edward Rutledge
Population Info
Religion: Protestantism, Baptism
Ethnicity: White (English, Scottish, German), Black (West & Central African), Native American
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Southern American, English-variant
Other Cultures: Scottish, Irish, West African
Military Info
Army:
Army of Carolina: 50,000 troops
West Florida National Guard: 6,000 troops
Navy:
Carolina National Navy: 100 ships in total
Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: Carolina & West Flordia is a mixed economy. In South Carolina, the economy has gone from farming to a slightly industrial state, but in Georgia and West Florida, the economy is agrarian, relying on farming and plantations. Slavery is quite prominent in the Southern states, specifically West Florida and Georgia.
Goals: Keep West Florida in the Union. Improve relations with NC, re-unify the Carolinas. Become the superpower of the South, preserve culture.
History:
1783: The Treaty of Paris effectively splits the Thirteen British Colonies. The Federal State of South Carolina is an independent nation.
1786: South Carolina annexes Georgia under the Savanna Conference. The Union Republic of Carolina is born.
1790: Carolina and Florida dispute for the western Florida territory. A brief skirmish ensues, with Carolinian victory.
1791: Florida agrees to give Western Florida to Carolina. West Florida is admitted as the third state, and the Union Republic of Carolina and West Florida is formed.
1795: The dispute of slavery is brought up in the 12th Congressional Session. Some in the nation suggest that slavery should be outlawed, just as some other nations have done. Amid pressure from the outside world to ban slavery, the Carolina government reassures the people that slavery is a neccessary part of society.
1800: A large slave revolt occurs in West Florida. The casualties are high, and results in the implementation of the slave codes.
RP Sample: (required) http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?t=291954
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by Neo-Assyrian Empire » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:13 pm
Chihuahua y Tejas wrote:Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:Generic Info
Nation Name: La République de l'Ouest (The Western Republic)
Symbols: Flag (Subject to Change) and Anthem
Homeland Population: ~600,000 (Exact numbers unknown)
Imperial Population: ~600,000
Location/Claims: Illinois and Wisconsin (Including the Upper Peninsula of Michigan)
Capital City: Chicago
Government Info
Government Type: Constitutional Federal Republic
Ideology: Patriotism, Liberalism
Leader/s: Président Thybault Leblanc
Population Info
Religion: Roman Catholicism
Ethnicity: French and Native American
Main/Accepted Culture(s): French
Other Cultures: Local tribal cultures
Military Info
Army: The army is divided into two divisions: L'Armée de l'Ouest and Milice Nationale de l'Ouest, the Western Army and the National Western Militia. The army is well equipped, with most troops being given muskets, though some are equipped with the Kentucky Long Rifle. The militia, on the other hand, are armed with muskets at best. There are around 10,000 soldiers in the army, while there are 5,000 in the militia
Navy: Le Marine de l'Ouest is the only naval division at the moment. It has 31 vessels, mostly old galleys that were captured during the revolution.
Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: The Republic relies heavily on fur trapping and trade with other nations to support its economy. The economy will suffer if either of these begun to slow down to a halt.
Goals: Create a single nation around the Great Lakes and spread the French culture around the region.
History: Le République de l'Ouest started out as a territory of New France, providing the Empire with furs and other valuable commodities. After the Seven Year's War, when the territories were transferred to Britain, the French citizens of the North West Territory were angered by the change of government.
Years later, in 1776, the French along Lake Michigan began to fight against the British rule over the territory, feeling empowered by the recent gains made by the Continental Congress to the east. The first conflict occurred when the colonists, under the command of Louis Burnell, attacked Fort Saint-Louis. The sudden attack caught the soldiers off guard, allowing the colonists to overrun the fort and seize its arsenal.
Over the next four years, the French colonists launched several attacks on the British, securing the territories of what we know as the Upper Peninsula, along with Wisconsin and Illinois. However, the rebels did not win every fight. Three months after an Illini Council declared the Republic independent, In the winter of 1778, British vessels laid siege to Chicago. For three nights, the fleet bombarded the proclaimed capital.
However, through determination, the republic survived. On August 1st, 1779, the British surrendered the territory to the Colonists and acknowledged their sovereignty. From here on, the Illini Council acted as the entire government, with Chancelier Lawrence Cavelier acting as Head of State. This government presided over the Republic for three years, until 1782, when Président Benoit Anders, a war hero, was elected to office. Through Anders, a peaceful approach to natives living in the Republic was formed, while he focused on building up a large navy to patrol the Great Lakes.
Now, the Republic is under the control of Thybault Leblanc, who wishes to expand the Republic's power and spread French culture throughout the Great Lakes and North America as a whole.
RP Sample: Link!
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Finished up the app.
1. Chicago at most would be a small village(You don't have to change it or anything, just telling you)
2. I think the French called it "Checagou"
3. Population is waaayyy to large. According to this your claimed territory would only have a population a little higher than 50,000.
General Information
<G> Is the national currency. <G> 1 = $1.6
Political Compass: Economic Left/Right: 1
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -.31
Veni, Vidi, Vici
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Currently RPing As
Nobody
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by Lingang » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:18 pm

by The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:18 pm

by Chihuahua y Tejas » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:19 pm
Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:Chihuahua y Tejas wrote:
1. Chicago at most would be a small village(You don't have to change it or anything, just telling you)
2. I think the French called it "Checagou"
3. Population is waaayyy to large. According to this your claimed territory would only have a population a little higher than 50,000.
1. Yeah, but it's the only definitive settlement I know that existed by this point
2. I was debating which word I should use, since I didn't want to confuse anyone
3. Dang it. Would it be possible to exaggerate it a little bit, to 75,000?
Lingang wrote:Done it.

by The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:20 pm

by Chihuahua y Tejas » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:23 pm
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Question: do slaves count as 3/5s of a person or no?
Bc I think that would affect the population of any slave state that actually existed historically and therefore the population of all the states that had slaves at this time period historically (and many still in this timeline).

by The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:28 pm
Chihuahua y Tejas wrote:The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Question: do slaves count as 3/5s of a person or no?
Bc I think that would affect the population of any slave state that actually existed historically and therefore the population of all the states that had slaves at this time period historically (and many still in this timeline).
Hm. Idrk, I assume it's up to the player whether to count them in or not.

by The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:36 pm

by Kryskov » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:37 pm
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Kryskov wrote:Multiply the data by 5 and divide by 3 (5/3 times 3/5 is 15/15, simplified to one).
Ah yes that could work. I was never one for math.
I was never good at math, However, in the south I'd doubt some of them would even count slaves as humans, let alone citizens.
But, good to know.

by The Kingdom of Glitter » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:39 pm
Kryskov wrote:The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Ah yes that could work. I was never one for math.
I was never good at math, However, in the south I'd doubt some of them would even count slaves as humans, let alone citizens.
But, good to know.
Tbh I think population numbers in the south will include, OOCly, slaves as 1 person so they have an excuse to drum up more soldiers.
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