The Divided States Of America (OOC, Sign-Ups)

[Atramentar]

Canada and Mexico, who's economies where supported by America's, collapse, each Canadian Province and Mexican State becoming independent.

I know it's an alt-history and so forth, but Canada's economy would not collapse if the US went tits-up.

Anyone have more ideas for Other Formable Nations?

If allowed to form BC-Alberta, then I suggest that Sakatchewan and Manitoba (maybe North Dakota/Minnesota/Montana?) could form Saskitoba, bread basket of the north!

Wheat Kings, baby.

[Lolloh]

*Ahem*

Name of Nation(In IC): The Free State of Nebraska
Type of Government: Democratic Socialist, with a Unicameral Legislature
Leader: Governor Chuck Hassebrook
Population(Be Reasonable): 2.3 million
Military Strength: Unified Nebraska Department of Public Safety: 33 000 personnel, 14.4/1000
Army National Guard (Division of the Nebraska Department of Public Safety): 24 600 men, 20 Abrams Tanks, 100 M113 APCs, 150 105mm artillery pieces, 1 000 transport trucks, 8 Chinooks
Navy Nebraska Game and Parks Commission: 800 personnel,30 Light Patrol Boats (LPBs), 13 Medium Patrol Boats (MPBs), 8 Heavy Patrol Boats (HPBs)
Air Force Strategic Command (STRATCOM) (Division of the Nebraska Department of Transportation): 2 800 personnel, 3 F35s, 2 F22s, 1 B52 bomber, 22 C130 Hercules, 3 Chinooks
The below are additional agencies with a paramilitary capability:
Nebraska State Patrol: 800 personnel, 250 patrol cars, 10 APCs
Nebraska Police: 4 000 personnel, 400 patrol cars, 30 APCs (decentralized)
The State Patrol and Police are both under the jurisdiction of the Nebraska Department of Public Safety
Land Claim(One State/Province/Country): Nebraska, where else?
Reason For Joining: Saw it, liked it, and decided to valiantly serve as my home state for the 3 days I am available online.

[Atramentar]

*Ahem*

Maybe wait til the OP returns before making impatient noises?

[Lolloh]

*Ahem*

Maybe wait til the OP returns before making impatient noises?

Ah, the OP hasn't returned yet? Sorry. I'm naturally impatient, my apologies.

[Cymrea]

Canada and Mexico, who's economies where supported by America's, collapse, each Canadian Province and Mexican State becoming independent.

I know it's an alt-history and so forth, but Canada's economy would not collapse if the US went tits-up.

Anyone have more ideas for Other Formable Nations?

If allowed to form BC-Alberta, then I suggest that Sakatchewan and Manitoba (maybe North Dakota/Minnesota/Montana?) could form Saskitoba, bread basket of the north!

Wheat Kings, baby.

I'll take that action.

Name of Nation (IC): Saskitoba
Type of Government: Constitutional monarchy
Leader: Prime Minister Norm Sawchuk
Population: 3 million
Military Strength: 30,000 (1% of population)
Army: 19,000
Navy: 1000
Air Force: 10,000
Land Claim(One State/Province/Country): Saskatchewan and Manitoba
Reason For Joining: Cuz awesome.

[The Time Alliance]

Name of Nation(In IC): Confederated Republic of Georgia
Type of Government: Paternal Autocracy (Right-Authoritarian)
Leader: Benjamin Grant
Population(Be Reasonable): 9,992,167

Army: 4,996 Personal
Navy: 1,200 Personal
Air Force: 76,000 Personal
Land Claim(One State/Province/Country): Georgia
Reason For Joining: I need a Role-Play to spend some time in. For some more fun.

[Cymrea]

Name of Nation(In IC): Confederated Republic of Georgia
Type of Government: Paternal Autocracy (Right-Authoritarian)
Leader: Benjamin Grant
Population(Be Reasonable): 9,992,167

Army: 4,996 Personal
Navy: 1,200 Personal
Air Force: 76,000 Personal
Land Claim(One State/Province/Country): Georgia
Reason For Joining: I need a Role-Play to spend some time in. For some more fun.

Yes! I will be sending an embassy for those grits!

[The Time Alliance]

Name of Nation(In IC): Confederated Republic of Georgia
Type of Government: Paternal Autocracy (Right-Authoritarian)
Leader: Benjamin Grant
Population(Be Reasonable): 9,992,167

Army: 4,996 Personal
Navy: 1,200 Personal
Air Force: 76,000 Personal
Land Claim(One State/Province/Country): Georgia
Reason For Joining: I need a Role-Play to spend some time in. For some more fun.

Yes! I will be sending an embassy for those grits!

Haha

[Senkaku]

Question: could someone be allowed to play as an outside/non-North American nation interfering in North American affairs either for their own reasons or in a peacekeeping effort?

I did post this yesterday, and I've not seen an OP response...

[Soviet Chernarus]

Question: could someone be allowed to play as an outside/non-North American nation interfering in North American affairs either for their own reasons or in a peacekeeping effort?

I did post this yesterday, and I've not seen an OP response...

I recommend TGing him

[Greater Kashmir]

Okay, New Greek Republic, there is NO CONTACT WITH THE OUTSIDE WORLLD. PERIOD. And i don't need to explain it, it's an alternate history. it doesn't have to make sense. I could say Tennessee became a Communist Military Dictatorship ruled by Flying Cat Unicorns and get away with it cause it doesnt have to make sense. Clear? Btw that's a rhetorical question.

[Atramentar]

Okay, New Greek Republic, there is NO CONTACT WITH THE OUTSIDE WORLLD. PERIOD. And i don't need to explain it, it's an alternate history. it doesn't have to make sense. I could say Tennessee became a Communist Military Dictatorship ruled by Flying Cat Unicorns and get away with it cause it doesnt have to make sense. Clear? Btw that's a rhetorical question.

And.....everything else, including all the apps?

[Greater Kashmir]

Okay, New Greek Republic, there is NO CONTACT WITH THE OUTSIDE WORLLD. PERIOD. And i don't need to explain it, it's an alternate history. it doesn't have to make sense. I could say Tennessee became a Communist Military Dictatorship ruled by Flying Cat Unicorns and get away with it cause it doesnt have to make sense. Clear? Btw that's a rhetorical question.

And.....everything else, including all the apps?

I was reviewing them. all accepted but Saskitoba. you can FORM Saskitoba, but for now only one of the provinces.

[Atramentar]

And.....everything else, including all the apps?

I was reviewing them. all accepted but Saskitoba. you can FORM Saskitoba, but for now only one of the provinces.

Hmm. Well, like Saskitoba, my app includes two provinces. So, I guess I will request a re-review to be sure it's actually acceptable.

[The New Age Empire]

I've been gone the last 2 days, I won't god mod and say everything is mine but I will instead of 3 weeks after 5 weeks after which means more will be taken over, and I will most likely bomb the forces in Minnesota, as squashing any foreign authority is required for propaganda to work in the countries I am going to take over.

[Mesrane]

IC thread now guys?Please?

A link would be a lifesaver. Hate having to go back and forth.

[The United Eastern States of Europe]

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic ... #p21725192

[Mesrane]

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=311669&p=21725192#p21725192

Well, yes, thanks. But, you know, those big links in the OP are most convenient.

[Soviet Chernarus]

I would prefer if you (Wisconsin) didn't do the "5 weeks after last war update" - with that logic, I could say "10 weeks after Wisconsin entered Randomcityville, troops made a surprise landing and took Wisconsin's capital" which would obviously be godmodding, but you get the point. You're just ignoring everybody's troops (which the populations of all the countries combined that are now against you are probably 5 times your population) and making huge gains that would not be plausible in an actual, RL scenario (yes I'm aware this isn't RL and this is NS so there's bound to be some godmodding)

[Mesrane]

I would prefer if you (Wisconsin) didn't do the "5 weeks after last war update" - with that logic, I could say "10 weeks after Wisconsin entered Randomcityville, troops made a surprise landing and took Wisconsin's capital" which would obviously be godmodding, but you get the point. You're just ignoring everybody's troops (which the populations of all the countries combined that are now against you are probably 5 times your population) and making huge gains that would not be plausible in an actual, RL scenario (yes I'm aware this isn't RL and this is NS so there's bound to be some godmodding)

I second this. This is 2020 and you're Wisconsin, not Germany in 1939.

[The New Greek Republic]

Okay, New Greek Republic, there is NO CONTACT WITH THE OUTSIDE WORLLD. PERIOD. And i don't need to explain it, it's an alternate history. it doesn't have to make sense. I could say Tennessee became a Communist Military Dictatorship ruled by Flying Cat Unicorns and get away with it cause it doesnt have to make sense. Clear? Btw that's a rhetorical question.

I hope you realize just because it's alternate history doesn't mean you get to do whatever just on a whim. For it to be a good alternate history RP, you have to have realism intertwined with the alternate history. Ignoring the various issues you are creating is absurd. So for there to be a good AHRP, yes it does have to make some kind of sense. That's the basic rule of creating a RP like this, find a place where you could mix realism and Cuba interacting with China and Russia is as real as you're gonna get in this RP.

[The New Age Empire]

I would just like to ask chernarus, exactly how are you stopping me at all? and not only this but your men supposedly cutting off supplies would have been killed by now as the railroads would be patrolled, if anything I could just send in a giant mob of men in a surprise attack and kill them all, rendering your rescue useless and only ending up being a waste of time for you.

[Soviet Chernarus]

1) Your troops have been rampaging for weeks, no, months, without any mention of them resting or stopping, thus making them exhausted and tired and more likely to be routed - this is what I assumed, but feel free to ignore it.
2) You can't patrol hundreds upon hundreds of miles of railroads. And not all your supplies are being sent by train. I said if you advanced further, like you kept advancing and took a whole bunch of land, that I would be able to attempt to cut off supply lines. Think about it. You have tens of thousands of troops occupying your conquered territories and patrolling bases and railroads and such. You've been advancing deep into unfamiliar enemy territory, where we're the strongest. It is not a complete fantasy that i would be able to cut off supply lines, considering they're already overextended and maintaining and supllying a force deep into enemy territory...well, you saw what happened to those German troops in Russia

[The New Age Empire]

1) Your troops have been rampaging for weeks, no, months, without any mention of them resting or stopping, thus making them exhausted and tired and more likely to be routed - this is what I assumed, but feel free to ignore it.
2) You can't patrol hundreds upon hundreds of miles of railroads. And not all your supplies are being sent by train. I said if you advanced further, like you kept advancing and took a whole bunch of land, that I would be able to attempt to cut off supply lines. Think about it. You have tens of thousands of troops occupying your conquered territories and patrolling bases and railroads and such. You've been advancing deep into unfamiliar enemy territory, where we're the strongest. It is not a complete fantasy that i would be able to cut off supply lines, considering they're already overextended and maintaining and supllying a force deep into enemy territory...well, you saw what happened to those German troops in Russia

I only have a couple of problems with those theories, Currently I am invading, and if you didn't know war just makes people paranoid *Hitler declared on russia because of his extreme levels of paranoia* but either way I can't compare this to russia and germany, sure if I invaded canada you could use that, but one main factor in germany's loss was the Russian Winter that the german troops were simply not used to, and ultimately led to their downfall. As I've said before the technological advancements made by us have only improved our security, and if anything I'm using half of my troops to invade and defend occupied territory, the rest are defending territory that is officially ours, (countries that have lost all of their land are considered absorbed into us by my standards* Also, I would like to try to change my name, into The National Socialist Dictatorship of The Great Lakes, at some point, so this means I will most likely allow one of the countries I don't care about to leave the war, but I cannot allow michigan to stay under control by its current government, you could compare this to the "goals" on europa universalis, like how some countries in germany have a goal to form germany.

[Soviet Chernarus]

1) Your troops have been rampaging for weeks, no, months, without any mention of them resting or stopping, thus making them exhausted and tired and more likely to be routed - this is what I assumed, but feel free to ignore it.
2) You can't patrol hundreds upon hundreds of miles of railroads. And not all your supplies are being sent by train. I said if you advanced further, like you kept advancing and took a whole bunch of land, that I would be able to attempt to cut off supply lines. Think about it. You have tens of thousands of troops occupying your conquered territories and patrolling bases and railroads and such. You've been advancing deep into unfamiliar enemy territory, where we're the strongest. It is not a complete fantasy that i would be able to cut off supply lines, considering they're already overextended and maintaining and supllying a force deep into enemy territory...well, you saw what happened to those German troops in Russia

I only have a couple of problems with those theories, Currently I am invading, and if you didn't know war just makes people paranoid *Hitler declared on russia because of his extreme levels of paranoia* but either way I can't compare this to russia and germany, sure if I invaded canada you could use that, but one main factor in germany's loss was the Russian Winter that the german troops were simply not used to, and ultimately led to their downfall. As I've said before the technological advancements made by us have only improved our security, and if anything I'm using half of my troops to invade and defend occupied territory, the rest are defending territory that is officially ours, (countries that have lost all of their land are considered absorbed into us by my standards* Also, I would like to try to change my name, into The National Socialist Dictatorship of The Great Lakes, at some point, so this means I will most likely allow one of the countries I don't care about to leave the war, but I cannot allow michigan to stay under control by its current government, you could compare this to the "goals" on europa universalis, like how some countries in germany have a goal to form germany.

1) Okay, first, the point I was trying to make with the german invasion of Russia is yes, they lost mainly due to the harsh winter and the large armies of the Soviet Union, is that they couldn't get the supplies they needed - which contributed to the ultimate failure of Barbarossa. Another example of supplies and logistics being important is in North Africa - Rommel only received a small portion of the supplies he needed, which contributed to German defeats there. Also, if the German troops were more prepared and had the aquedate winter clothing they needed, they might've been able to hold their ground more or maybe even win (although it would be unlikely)
2) Technological advancements doesn't mean that you have to completely dismiss logistics and supllies on NS - granted, this is in the future, but still, you get the point.
3) You don't have millions of troops in your military. Otherwise the situation here is just going to become a massive spamfest with a bunch of godmodding