To Shred an Empire (medieval-low fantasy/OOC/OPEN)

[Gjulich]

I was thinking about how the Imperial Capital would look like, just so we all have some idea of it, and I came across this picture:

(Image)

Those urban-corridor like features look a bit off scale, but I like it otherwise.

I think I might have mentioned that this was the entire original inspiration for my app what's in it is probably a semi-decent idea.

Ah yes. The song which, since you posted it a few days ago, I have been humming everywhere.

[Of the Quendi]

Thanks for the criticism. Do we know the area that Region 4 encompasses?

Also, I understand the urbanization stats and such, but I was envisioning a mountainous area with little area to spread out. But I can understand that.

I don't think any scale for the map exists. As for having a mountainous area that wouldn't make people more urban, quite the opposite in fact. In order for a rural agrarian society to become urbanized it needs an agricultural surplus to sustain having former peasants become workers in cities. This obviously is a lot easier for a territory with a lot of farmland. Alternatively an urban population can be established where a strong mercantile (and usually maritime) tradition makes it possible for non-agriculturally employed people to trade whatever they do for food.

[Alleniana]

Those urban-corridor like features look a bit off scale, but I like it otherwise.

I think I might have mentioned that this was the entire original inspiration for my app what's in it is probably a semi-decent idea.

Ah yes. The song which, since you posted it a few days ago, I have been humming everywhere.

It ranks within my top 10 favourite songs, I would think.

Thanks for the criticism. Do we know the area that Region 4 encompasses?

Also, I understand the urbanization stats and such, but I was envisioning a mountainous area with little area to spread out. But I can understand that.

I don't think any scale for the map exists. As for having a mountainous area that wouldn't make people more urban, quite the opposite in fact. In order for a rural agrarian society to become urbanized it needs an agricultural surplus to sustain having former peasants become workers in cities. This obviously is a lot easier for a territory with a lot of farmland. Alternatively an urban population can be established where a strong mercantile (and usually maritime) tradition makes it possible for non-agriculturally employed people to trade whatever they do for food.

I was envisioning Bratyk, the city inside the mountain to fall within the latter category, but it seems like there's a bit of a surplus of them.

[Gjulich]

Ah yes. The song which, since you posted it a few days ago, I have been humming everywhere.

It ranks within my top 10 favourite songs, I would think.

Well, it's made it onto my 'music' playlist, a carefully selected 140-odd songs which I find epic. It's the most prestigious honour I personally can give a song.

[Alleniana]

It ranks within my top 10 favourite songs, I would think.

Well, it's made it onto my 'music' playlist, a carefully selected 140-odd songs which I find epic. It's the most prestigious honour I personally can give a song.

Ah, I used to have a list like that before I just started listening to the Frozen soundtrack on repeat.

[Agadar]

Well, it's made it onto my 'music' playlist, a carefully selected 140-odd songs which I find epic. It's the most prestigious honour I personally can give a song.

Ah, I used to have a list like that before I just started listening to the Frozen soundtrack on repeat.

Sounds like you have issues you should just... let go...

[Alleniana]

Ah, I used to have a list like that before I just started listening to the Frozen soundtrack on repeat.

Sounds like you have issues you should just... let go...

Let It Go is the only song I've heard that doesn't fade away after hundreds of repeats, and the orchestrals are better than many a Beethoven or Mozart IMO.

[Gjulich]

Sounds like you have issues you should just... let go...

Let It Go is the only song I've heard that doesn't fade away after hundreds of repeats, and the orchestrals are better than many a Beethoven or Mozart IMO.

Nope. Sorry. Disagree fully. I only have Let it Go on the list because of the beautiful sound of the German woman singing the third/sixth line. I found the Frozen soundtrack far inferior to many other soundtracks and pieces of classical art in my opinion.

[Imperium Nova]

Let It Go is the only song I've heard that doesn't fade away after hundreds of repeats, and the orchestrals are better than many a Beethoven or Mozart IMO.

Nope. Sorry. Disagree fully. I only have Let it Go on the list because of the beautiful sound of the German woman singing the third/sixth line. I found the Frozen soundtrack far inferior to many other soundtracks and pieces of classical art in my opinion.

How dare you?

[Imperium Nova]

I was thinking about how the Imperial Capital would look like, just so we all have some idea of it, and I came across this picture:

(Image)

Those urban-corridor like features look a bit off scale, but I like it otherwise.

I think I might have mentioned that this was the entire original inspiration for my app what's in it is probably a semi-decent idea.

Yeah, it has it flaws but I believe it still works. The big castle in the center would probably be the Emperor's Castle and then the other one perhaps a large cathedral-esque structure for the Faith.

[Gjulich]

Nope. Sorry. Disagree fully. I only have Let it Go on the list because of the beautiful sound of the German woman singing the third/sixth line. I found the Frozen soundtrack far inferior to many other soundtracks and pieces of classical art in my opinion.

How dare you?

Easily. Stating my opinion. While I find the songs and lyrics catchy, they lack the depth of some other musical pieces which I enjoy.

[Imperium Nova]

How dare you?

Easily. Stating my opinion. While I find the songs and lyrics catchy, they lack the depth of some other musical pieces which I enjoy.

Well, alright then.

[Agadar]

How dare you?

Easily. Stating my opinion. While I find the songs and lyrics catchy, they lack the depth of some other musical pieces which I enjoy.

Curious how us humans assign such vague and abstract notions such as 'depth' to what are essentially orderly pressure waves propagating through the air.

[Alleniana]

How dare you?

Easily. Stating my opinion. While I find the songs and lyrics catchy, they lack the depth of some other musical pieces which I enjoy.

I'm probably very biased. Much of their appeal lies in the feels conjured up via the movie, and the movie was indeed my favourite one. Whether the movie by the music or the music by the movie, I don't know, but either way, love the whole shebang.

Let It Go just doesn't fade mentally, is what I'm saying. It's not a conscious decision or anything, but when I listen to Baba Yetu a thousand times, Let It Go a thousand times, Diggy Diggy Hole a thousand times and then Hatikvah a thousand times, it's Let It Go that I still want to sing along to and am still energised by and still can envision as clear as the first time.

I'm getting too deep.

[Gjulich]

Easily. Stating my opinion. While I find the songs and lyrics catchy, they lack the depth of some other musical pieces which I enjoy.

Curious how us humans assign such vague and abstract notions such as 'depth' to what are essentially orderly pressure waves propagating through the air.

'Tis true. Very curious indeed.
To quote the film; "There is beauty in it, but there is also great danger!"
We humans find beauty in abstract concepts all the time. What makes one artwork more appealing than another, or one piece of music better quality than another? Anything. Which is why we are so seemingly unique.

Easily. Stating my opinion. While I find the songs and lyrics catchy, they lack the depth of some other musical pieces which I enjoy.

I'm probably very biased. Much of their appeal lies in the feels conjured up via the movie, and the movie was indeed my favourite one. Whether the movie by the music or the music by the movie, I don't know, but either way, love the whole shebang.

Let It Go just doesn't fade mentally, is what I'm saying. It's not a conscious decision or anything, but when I listen to Baba Yetu a thousand times, Let It Go a thousand times, Diggy Diggy Hole a thousand times and then Hatikvah a thousand times, it's Let It Go that I still want to sing along to and am still energised by and still can envision as clear as the first time.

I'm getting too deep.

HTTYD for the win!
Yeah, I see what you mean. It is a memorable song, even if I don't find it as nice as some others. But I still prefer anything by Malukah, Vivaldi, John Powell et al.

[Of the Quendi]

I'm probably very biased. Much of their appeal lies in the feels conjured up via the movie, and the movie was indeed my favourite one. Whether the movie by the music or the music by the movie, I don't know, but either way, love the whole shebang.

Let It Go just doesn't fade mentally, is what I'm saying. It's not a conscious decision or anything, but when I listen to Baba Yetu a thousand times, Let It Go a thousand times, Diggy Diggy Hole a thousand times and then Hatikvah a thousand times, it's Let It Go that I still want to sing along to and am still energised by and still can envision as clear as the first time.

I'm getting too deep.

Your statement that Let It Go is a musical piece superior to the works of Beethoven or Mozart is obviously the most vile and savage blasphemy for which you ought face all sorts of divine retribution ( ) but disney movie songs certainly does increase their appeal by their link to their movies. On that note Do You Wanna Build A Snowman (the song name; I am not making a very weird proposition here) and First Time in Forever are better than Let It Go.

[Gjulich]

I'm probably very biased. Much of their appeal lies in the feels conjured up via the movie, and the movie was indeed my favourite one. Whether the movie by the music or the music by the movie, I don't know, but either way, love the whole shebang.

Let It Go just doesn't fade mentally, is what I'm saying. It's not a conscious decision or anything, but when I listen to Baba Yetu a thousand times, Let It Go a thousand times, Diggy Diggy Hole a thousand times and then Hatikvah a thousand times, it's Let It Go that I still want to sing along to and am still energised by and still can envision as clear as the first time.

I'm getting too deep.

Your statement that Let It Go is a musical piece superior to the works of Beethoven or Mozart is obviously the most vile and savage blasphemy for which you ought face all sorts of divine retribution ( ) but disney movie songs certainly does increase their appeal by their link to their movies. On that note Do You Wanna Build A Snowman (the song name; I am not making a very weird proposition here) and First Time in Forever are better than Let It Go.

I don't know if I agree with you about First Time in Forever being better than Let it Go. The chord progression in First Time in Forever just seems to jar with me, and while I really like some of it, it just seems like a rushed piece, which is fine, but slightly meh to me. But I'll agree that Do You Wanna Build A Snowman is quite beautiful, and that Beethoven and Mozart trump them all. Then Vivaldi explodes them all with a beautiful song performed by Malukah in Welsh, featuring the works of Jónsi and John Powell.

[Alleniana]

I'm probably very biased. Much of their appeal lies in the feels conjured up via the movie, and the movie was indeed my favourite one. Whether the movie by the music or the music by the movie, I don't know, but either way, love the whole shebang.

Let It Go just doesn't fade mentally, is what I'm saying. It's not a conscious decision or anything, but when I listen to Baba Yetu a thousand times, Let It Go a thousand times, Diggy Diggy Hole a thousand times and then Hatikvah a thousand times, it's Let It Go that I still want to sing along to and am still energised by and still can envision as clear as the first time.

I'm getting too deep.

Your statement that Let It Go is a musical piece superior to the works of Beethoven or Mozart is obviously the most vile and savage blasphemy for which you ought face all sorts of divine retribution ( ) but disney movie songs certainly does increase their appeal by their link to their movies. On that note Do You Wanna Build A Snowman (the song name; I am not making a very weird proposition here) and First Time in Forever are better than Let It Go.

I did say (didn't I? I hope I did ) some. Some (lots) classical music particularly annoys me by building up and then doing nothing with it, and I just sort of want to shout "Don't you have a point? What the hell was that?!" I feel fairly confident that few works will top Let It Go's ability to just not bore, though. I've listened to it at least several times each night for the last few months, coming to a total of thousands.

I am a fair Disney fan in any case. I'm not sure how I'd feel about the songs sans the movie's context, but I do generally like Disney songs quite a lot, so that's that.

I'm not sure which are better than which. Within film context (which is how I view it almost constantly), I'd say that the strongest points are Let It Go's first chorus, Do You Wanna Build A Snowman's interlude and proximity, First Time In Forever duet section and Do You Wanna Build A Snowman Reprise's climax, but standalone (insofar as I can view it as a standalone, which is very little), Let It Go seems to top it.

Curious how us humans assign such vague and abstract notions such as 'depth' to what are essentially orderly pressure waves propagating through the air.

'Tis true. Very curious indeed.
To quote the film; "There is beauty in it, but there is also great danger!"
We humans find beauty in abstract concepts all the time. What makes one artwork more appealing than another, or one piece of music better quality than another? Anything. Which is why we are so seemingly unique.

I'm probably very biased. Much of their appeal lies in the feels conjured up via the movie, and the movie was indeed my favourite one. Whether the movie by the music or the music by the movie, I don't know, but either way, love the whole shebang.

Let It Go just doesn't fade mentally, is what I'm saying. It's not a conscious decision or anything, but when I listen to Baba Yetu a thousand times, Let It Go a thousand times, Diggy Diggy Hole a thousand times and then Hatikvah a thousand times, it's Let It Go that I still want to sing along to and am still energised by and still can envision as clear as the first time.

I'm getting too deep.

HTTYD for the win!
Yeah, I see what you mean. It is a memorable song, even if I don't find it as nice as some others. But I still prefer anything by Malukah, Vivaldi, John Powell et al.

Music is strange, but it's a very nice strangeness.

I should rewatch HTTYD.

I think the thing about Let It Go may be that it just hits the right notes and doesn't stop making progress. It lets you appreciate each section and familiarise, but as it does so, it doesn't cease hitting with the big deal, from mourning-like contemplation to discovery and resolution to absolute joy and bliss to obligatory but content-filled interlude to smackdown conclusion.

I should say that I haven't heard terribly many of the works being discussed, other than Frozen (I shall rectify it tomorrow), but I would hope that I at least properly know what I do know. I tend to listen any of my favourite songs at least several hundred if not thousand times after I discover it, and proceed to dump it as its appeal is worn, crumb by crumb. The thing about Frozen is that it hasn't happened, which is why I like it so much.

[Corenea]

Any coastal region open?

[Gjulich]

Any coastal region open?

None of the regions are free. Only vassal positions.

[Agadar]

Any coastal region open?

None of the regions are free. Only vassal positions.

Pretty sure 4 and 6 are open.

[Corenea]

Any coastal region open?

None of the regions are free. Only vassal positions.

Guess I'll claim a vassal position. Are there any great coastal houses that have negative view of the Empire?

[Alleniana]

Ok, we didn't completely derail, thank goodness.

Were 4 and 6 ever applied for? It seems a bit odd that they could have just been missed out on entirely.

[Gjulich]

None of the regions are free. Only vassal positions.

Pretty sure 4 and 6 are open.

We discussed this earlier. 4 has been taken since we discussed it, and 6 is owned by Der Kaiser Mikey III.

Ok, we didn't completely derail, thank goodness.

Were 4 and 6 ever applied for? It seems a bit odd that they could have just been missed out on entirely.

Phew! That was close!

[Woodstovia]

None of the regions are free. Only vassal positions.

Pretty sure 4 and 6 are open.

6 is taken. The guy just posted