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by The Grey Wolf » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:17 pm
Bezombia wrote:Ulvenes wrote:Good luck fighting me and Wolfy. And possibly Ulrenon though I wouldn't expect him to. I'd appreciate it if he did, however.
lel Verd would literally never go to war with me
even if he did I'd just throw beer at him until he joined my side
Wolfy probably wouldn't go to war with a fellow fascist. Although even if he did, I could easily take you both.
by Themiclesia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:28 pm
The Grey Wolf wrote:Bezombia wrote:lel Verd would literally never go to war with me
even if he did I'd just throw beer at him until he joined my side
Wolfy probably wouldn't go to war with a fellow fascist. Although even if he did, I could easily take you both.
When dealing with such a race as Benomian - inferior and barbarian - we must not pursue the carrot, but the stick policy.... I would say we can easily sacrifice 500,000 barbaric Benomians for 50,000 Wolfians....
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by The Grey Wolf » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:32 pm
Themiclesia wrote:The Grey Wolf wrote:
When dealing with such a race as Benomian - inferior and barbarian - we must not pursue the carrot, but the stick policy.... I would say we can easily sacrifice 500,000 barbaric Benomians for 50,000 Wolfians....
Have you considered that human beings is equally priceless and invaluable? Both a Wolfian and a Benomian are miracles of nature, creations of the unknown; they are not to destroyed in this manner.
by Themiclesia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:02 pm
The Grey Wolf wrote:Themiclesia wrote:Have you considered that human beings is equally priceless and invaluable? Both a Wolfian and a Benomian are miracles of nature, creations of the unknown; they are not to destroyed in this manner.
Except, the Wolfian is better, and represents the noble solar (speaking in an Evolian sense) characteristics of mankind while the Benomians represent the animalistic, telluric characteristics of mankind. One represents the superior traits of mankind, what makes us truly human, and the other personifies the inferior traits of mankind, the bestial characteristics that we can all revert to.
So like Fascism and Communism in general.
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by The Grey Wolf » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:10 pm
Themiclesia wrote:The Grey Wolf wrote:
Except, the Wolfian is better, and represents the noble solar (speaking in an Evolian sense) characteristics of mankind while the Benomians represent the animalistic, telluric characteristics of mankind. One represents the superior traits of mankind, what makes us truly human, and the other personifies the inferior traits of mankind, the bestial characteristics that we can all revert to.
So like Fascism and Communism in general.
Oh, so you're of the opinion that just because you're better you're entitled to preferential treatment, even when life is concerned? I shall not hesitate to tell you that all life is equally worthy of protection, for we all are born with just one life, bearing the same intrinsic value within it. There's only one thing that's worth more than one life: two lives. There is but one mankind; superior and inferior traits, if ever there could be such things absolutely, are acquired only after education. One is to rewarded for one's contribution in life, naturally, but life possesses and stands as a superior existence over all our characteristics; for that I say that all life is equally worthy of protection.
by Themiclesia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:12 pm
The Grey Wolf wrote:Themiclesia wrote:Oh, so you're of the opinion that just because you're better you're entitled to preferential treatment, even when life is concerned? I shall not hesitate to tell you that all life is equally worthy of protection, for we all are born with just one life, bearing the same intrinsic value within it. There's only one thing that's worth more than one life: two lives. There is but one mankind; superior and inferior traits, if ever there could be such things absolutely, are acquired only after education. One is to rewarded for one's contribution in life, naturally, but life possesses and stands as a superior existence over all our characteristics; for that I say that all life is equally worthy of protection.
Nature tends to disagree with you, just picture all the innumerable species that have been annihilated by natural selection. The idea that "all life is equally worthy of protection," is an idealistic, foolish human sentiment that tries to oppose itself on natural law.
Have you ever swatted a fly or stepped on an ant, or generally killed any form of insect?
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by The Grey Wolf » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:14 pm
Themiclesia wrote:The Grey Wolf wrote:
Nature tends to disagree with you, just picture all the innumerable species that have been annihilated by natural selection. The idea that "all life is equally worthy of protection," is an idealistic, foolish human sentiment that tries to oppose itself on natural law.
Have you ever swatted a fly or stepped on an ant, or generally killed any form of insect?
We have not been created merely to obey the "laws of nature" -- the sole law thereof, as I understand it, is that there is no law.
We are created to impose our better senses, agreeable to our unique ability to adjudicate the good from the evil, the just from the wrongful, upon nature. No other animal is capable of such distinction.
by Themiclesia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:16 pm
The Grey Wolf wrote:Themiclesia wrote:We have not been created merely to obey the "laws of nature" -- the sole law thereof, as I understand it, is that there is no law.
We are created to impose our better senses, agreeable to our unique ability to adjudicate the good from the evil, the just from the wrongful, upon nature. No other animal is capable of such distinction.
So I take it you've stepped on countless insects and possibly imposed unbearable suffering, and yet you can say "All life is equally worthy of protection," with a straight face.
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by The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:09 pm
The Grey Wolf wrote:Themiclesia wrote:Oh, so you're of the opinion that just because you're better you're entitled to preferential treatment, even when life is concerned? I shall not hesitate to tell you that all life is equally worthy of protection, for we all are born with just one life, bearing the same intrinsic value within it. There's only one thing that's worth more than one life: two lives. There is but one mankind; superior and inferior traits, if ever there could be such things absolutely, are acquired only after education. One is to rewarded for one's contribution in life, naturally, but life possesses and stands as a superior existence over all our characteristics; for that I say that all life is equally worthy of protection.
Nature tends to disagree with you, just picture all the innumerable species that have been annihilated by natural selection. The idea that "all life is equally worthy of protection," is an idealistic, foolish human sentiment that tries to oppose itself on natural law.
Have you ever swatted a fly or stepped on an ant, or generally killed any form of insect?

by The Grey Wolf » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:19 pm
Themiclesia wrote:The Grey Wolf wrote:
So I take it you've stepped on countless insects and possibly imposed unbearable suffering, and yet you can say "All life is equally worthy of protection," with a straight face.
I have always taken a deliberate effort to avoid stepping on insects; so far, I have flawless success. And, if it be acceptable to you, let us limit our discussion to mankind, the original scope of our discourse.
I'll take the liberty to post a statement found in a pre-school-age child's handbook to good behaviour, used in China since the 18th Century:
凡是人 皆須愛
天同覆 地同載
(He who is human is to be loved --
Covered by the same sky, supported by the same land.)
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:The Grey Wolf wrote:
Nature tends to disagree with you, just picture all the innumerable species that have been annihilated by natural selection. The idea that "all life is equally worthy of protection," is an idealistic, foolish human sentiment that tries to oppose itself on natural law.
Have you ever swatted a fly or stepped on an ant, or generally killed any form of insect?
What you propose, that humans of different kinds represent different aspects of humanity, is in-fact not natural law. It is a human sentiment. Yet, you state "human sentiment" as sounding like a bad hing, that natural law is the superior force. Yet natural law states that all humanity is the same, as proven by anatomy. So, which is right, human sentiment or natural law?


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New Chilokver wrote:Nation Name: The (Apple-Worshiping) Karlaesist Meritocracy of Chilokver
Character Name: Oliver Yau
Personality: You'll find out.
Age: 13
Physical Appearance (pic if possible): Like this, but 13.
Bio: When the world split into another world war, an alliance of communist nations quickly took over a large part of the world and won. Soon after however, a dictator took over the new union, and renamed it The Dictatorship of Pegraynaky. Naturally, people were pissed, and soon after a small resistance sprouted in, slowly undermining the government and trying for independence. Soon afterwards, they requested aid from what was left of the Allies and Chilokver was born, kicked its way out and into independence, with much stolen knowledge making it a formidable nation despite its youth and small size.
Territorial claims: That bit of South-East China on the coast.

by New Chilokver » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:12 am
The Grey Wolf wrote:New Chilokver wrote:Nation Name: The (Apple-Worshiping) Karlaesist Meritocracy of Chilokver
Character Name: Oliver Yau
Personality: You'll find out.
Age: 13
Physical Appearance (pic if possible): Like this, but 13.
Bio: When the world split into another world war, an alliance of communist nations quickly took over a large part of the world and won. Soon after however, a dictator took over the new union, and renamed it The Dictatorship of Pegraynaky. Naturally, people were pissed, and soon after a small resistance sprouted in, slowly undermining the government and trying for independence. Soon afterwards, they requested aid from what was left of the Allies and Chilokver was born, kicked its way out and into independence, with much stolen knowledge making it a formidable nation despite its youth and small size.
Territorial claims: That bit of South-East China on the coast.
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