Forge of Empires - AH RP [OOC/Open]

[Kryskov]

Is that Venice and its Italian territories alone, or everything inc colonies?

The 2 mil is the population of Venice in 1836. The .2 is an arbitrary number that I assigned to it because I can't find the Greek population.

What is Milan's colonial score?

[Lunas Legion]

The 2 mil is the population of Venice in 1836. The .2 is an arbitrary number that I assigned to it because I can't find the Greek population.

What is Milan's colonial score?

Ah. I went and found the Greek pop as roughly 2.2 million.

Damnit. I don't have enough manpower. Must acquire moar.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

The 2 mil is the population of Venice in 1836. The .2 is an arbitrary number that I assigned to it because I can't find the Greek population.

What is Milan's colonial score?

Use Populstat Region version

[Caltarania]

The 2 mil is the population of Venice in 1836. The .2 is an arbitrary number that I assigned to it because I can't find the Greek population.

What is Milan's colonial score?

Ah. I went and found the Greek pop as roughly 2.2 million.

Damnit. I don't have enough manpower. Must acquire moar.

...Anglois-Venetian alliance? We could, uh, 'lessen' your need for manpower.

[Bujahla]

What's Venice's colonial score, since I want to know whether I could grab the bit of Somalia that's not Egyptian or not.

Somalia? Lol. Whatever you say.

+2 - Europe
+0 - Population
+1 - Ports (Just Venice)
+3 - Navy
+0 - Historical size
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6 - I gave you a 0 on historical size because I didn't feel fair to help or hurt Venice.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Invade Albania and give me some nice Catholic subjects? Great idea...then Napoli will have a piece of the Balkan pie!

Hey, I am not sure if you changed your mind about the investment but would you also like to trade?

Also @Reatra: Would you also like to trade in addition to the other deals?

[Aldelxane]

Can someone help me calculate Daksina's colonial power? I know that it will probably be low, but I want to know what it is.

[Kryskov]

The 2 mil is the population of Venice in 1836. The .2 is an arbitrary number that I assigned to it because I can't find the Greek population.

What is Milan's colonial score?

Use Populstat Region version

I checked that. Greece only goes back to about 1951.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

What's Venice's colonial score, since I want to know whether I could grab the bit of Somalia that's not Egyptian or not.

Somalia? Lol. Whatever you say.

+2 - Europe
+0 - Population
+1 - Ports (Just Venice)
+3 - Navy
+0 - Historical size
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6 - I gave you a 0 on historical size because I didn't feel fair to help or hurt Venice.

Damn venice can have a bigger Empire than me..
Time to kill
Milan get the guns!

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Use Populstat Region version

I checked that. Greece only goes back to about 1951.

Go farther down

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Can someone help me calculate Daksina's colonial power? I know that it will probably be low, but I want to know what it is.

Joint colonization efforts, maybe?

[Caltarania]

Somalia? Lol. Whatever you say.

+2 - Europe
+0 - Population
+1 - Ports (Just Venice)
+3 - Navy
+0 - Historical size
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6 - I gave you a 0 on historical size because I didn't feel fair to help or hurt Venice.

Damn venice can have a bigger Empire than me..
Time to kill
Milan get the guns!

A large, hulking figure looms over Naples. In his deep, monotone voice he begins to speak.

"What you do to wittle Venice?"

He then proceeds to crack his knuckles.

[Lunas Legion]

The 2 mil is the population of Venice in 1836. The .2 is an arbitrary number that I assigned to it because I can't find the Greek population.

What is Milan's colonial score?

Use Populstat Region version

That's what I did.

In the meantime, Venice's plan;
1; Invade Croatia.
2; Invade Thrace.
3; Possibily invade Latin Empire depending on other circumstances.
4; Begin shifting of power/assets to Constantinople.
5; Probably lose in war against N.Italian Confederation state, Italy, Milan, Genoa or Naples. Cede all Italian land.
6; Shift to Constantinople.
7; Proclaim Constantine Empire.
8;???
9; Profit.

[Neros]

Man, you guys just love to post OOC.

Good thing I'm a bit off the radar as far as the roleplay goes. Time to rile up and make good on threats to Patagonia.

[Kryskov]

Damn venice can have a bigger Empire than me..
Time to kill
Milan get the guns!

good

fight amongst yourselves

I checked that. Greece only goes back to about 1951.

Go farther down

no can find

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Damn venice can have a bigger Empire than me..
Time to kill
Milan get the guns!

A large, hulking figure looms over Naples. In his deep, monotone voice he begins to speak.

"What you do to wittle Venice?"

He then proceeds to crack his knuckles.[/quote
I have no quarrel with Mega France.

[Aldelxane]

Can someone help me calculate Daksina's colonial power? I know that it will probably be low, but I want to know what it is.

(someone=Bujahla)
Edit: I'm not sure if it's score or power, but whichever it is.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Can someone help me calculate Daksina's colonial power? I know that it will probably be low, but I want to know what it is.

I'm making a rough estimate and am gonna say between one and three.

More likely one or two than three, however.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

When a Co-OP as Glitter shows great interest in such proposal, it is better to not look past that, as what Glitter says it goes

Okay soooooo.

Did you actually read what I said? I said it depends on the situation Scotland is in as to whether or not it would scramble, but we'd attend anyway because we have land in Asia and allies in Oceania, so clearly it is in Scottish interests to attend.

Secondly, when I'm talking about the IC actions of Scotland, you have to keep in mind I'm not really a Co-Op then, I'm Scotland.

Thirdly, I've argued as to why that conference might utterly fail, if it even happens.

Also, I can easily be overruled by the other Co-Ops and Buj. Keep that in mind, even tho this was not an Op Board ruling in the slightest, but just for future reference.

So how about you stop whatever bullshit you think you're going to pull on me, and move on.

It seems my " " was misconstrued. It was a joke.

[Lunas Legion]

Generic Info
Nation Name: Most Serene Republic of Venice
Symbols:

Homeland Population: 2.2 million
Imperial Population: 2.3 million (just colonies) 4.5 million (total)
Location/Claims: 22 (claims 23 and 33 as Venetian territory)
Capital City: Venice

Government Info
Government Type: Oligarchial Dictatorship
Brief Explanation of Government:

Ideology:  None. Venice is a dictatorship, and the dictators act with no ideological preference in mind beyond expanding their own power and influence, and ensuring that their family retains control over Venice
Leader/s: Doge Alexio Angelos

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: Venetians, are, for the most part, a hard-working people motivated by money; Venice was, and is, a republic built on wealth and it's uses, and this has rubbed off on her people. A loose personality cult has also built up around house Ziani, which controls the state and is viewed to be a shining example of what every Venetian should be.
Religion:
Venetians are mostly Catholic; although some Orthodox practitioners live in the Republic's Greek territories and a few Muslim traders can be found in the Republic's ports at any given time.
Ethnicity:
Venetians are mostly Italian or Greek; few other ethnicities are of sufficient number to challenge these two, which make up most of the bureaucracy, although there are some Croatian elements primarily located in Croatia.
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Lombard, Greek
Other Cultures: Croatian

Military Info
Army: Venetian Guard; 45,000. Although small, the Venetian Guard is highly-trained and well-equipped. Meant to defend Venice's interests abroad, it also finds itself being used as the Ziani family's group of enforcers.
Navy: Venetian Navy; larger than the guard, and receiving much more funding, is the Venetian Navy. Used primarily for defence and policing rather than expansion, the officer corps of the navy is one of the best in the world, although it remains unknown if this carries over to the regular crewmen. Strength to be decided on.

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: Venice's economy is how it has always been; trade-based. The Venetian Merchant Navy is one of the world's largest, and as such Venice benefits greatly from it. However, there is also a small agricultural sector, based mainly around wheat or grapes and the resulting wine which is exported wherever there is demand.
Goals: Acquire Genoa's non-Italian colonies. Establish more trading posts on the way to and from the Far East. Ensure that house Angelos lasts as rulers of somewhere for the next thousand years.
History: History diverges in 1204, in the Fourth Crusade; Alexios IV Angelos makes a deal with the Crusaders that they will be granted all of the Byzantine Empire's territory in Asia Minor in place of the previously promised aid, but the debt to the Venetians will still be repaid. The crusaders agree, and as such prevent his deposition by Alexios Doukas, who instead flees to Thrace and proclaims the Kingdom of Thrace. Alexios, with the support of the crusaders, is able to take control over Constantinople and the surrounding lands, but no more.

The crusaders are successful in their conquest of Asia Minor by 1214, and turn back to Alexios to repay their debt to Venice. Unable to do so, Alexios is forced by the Venetians to cede Constantinople to Venice, with Alexios as it's ruler under the Doge of Venice.

From there, the Republic expanded into Italy, taking over land around Venice and Istria, and expanding it's Dalmatian possessions. It annexed the Kingdom of Cyprus in 1338, after agreeing to void the Kingdom and the ruler's debt to the Republic following a war against the Seljuks.

Venice remained at peace for most of the 1400s and 1500s, expanding it's trade network further and allowing the house of Angelos to slowly but surely establish it's control over the Venetian political system.

During the 1600s, Venice established the colonies of Nuovo Venezia (Berumuda), Nuovo Creta (Jamaica) and Nuovo Cipro (Venetian West Africa).

RP Sample: Here
429 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Can someone help me calculate Daksina's colonial power? I know that it will probably be low, but I want to know what it is.

I'm making a rough estimate and am gonna say between one and three.

More likely one or two than three, however.

Here's why:

+0 - Oceania (I think)
+0 - Population
+1 - Ports (Idk if that would even count because you are not European)
+1 - Navy (possibly idk)
+1 - Historical size (considering Bengali's colonize Australia)
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3

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

@Venice: Would you like to trade and invest? I feel like Siam will be Italianized

[Lunas Legion]

@Venice: Would you like to trade and invest? I feel like Siam will be Italianized

Sure. Also means I have a use for the Andamans.

[Bujahla]

The 2 mil is the population of Venice in 1836. The .2 is an arbitrary number that I assigned to it because I can't find the Greek population.

What is Milan's colonial score?

+2 - Europe
+0 - Pop
+0 - Ports
+1 - Navy
+0 - Historical Size
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A might three

Daksinka's colonial thing:

+0 - Australia
+0 - Pop
+6 - Ports
+2 - Navy
-4 - Historical Size (This is harsh, but it's to counteract the shit-ton of ports you have)
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Giving you four, but your limits is to islands around you, no Africa.

[Caltarania]

A large, hulking figure looms over Naples. In his deep, monotone voice he begins to speak.

"What you do to wittle Venice?"

He then proceeds to crack his knuckles.[/quote
I have no quarrel with Mega France.

And we don't with Naples, but we plan to ally Venice in order to be able to compete with our main rival Spain, who has allied Genoa, in the region.

Yay for proxies!