Forge of Empires - AH RP [OOC/Open]

[Reatra]

Well I meant his first course of action in regards to taking lands,

I'm gonna be blunt and say that any nation in Italy that's part of the HRE is not really a nation that I'd attack (that is actually only Genoa and me) in the foreseeable future. I'd like us Northern Italians to form some sort of state so lolNaples and lolSpain don't influence our nations.

I could... Deal with that.... A federation more like. Very uncentralized.

[Lunas Legion]

Well I meant his first course of action in regards to taking lands,

I'm gonna be blunt and say that any nation in Italy that's part of the HRE is not really a nation that I'd attack (that is actually only Genoa and me) in the foreseeable future. I'd like us Northern Italians to form some sort of state so lolNaples and lolSpain don't influence our nations.

Heh. No. I'd be willing to trade my part of N.Italy that isn't Venice for Greek land, but otherwise, I'm against any N.Italian state and will be until destroyed.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

I'm gonna be blunt and say that any nation in Italy that's part of the HRE is not really a nation that I'd attack (that is actually only Genoa and me) in the foreseeable future. I'd like us Northern Italians to form some sort of state so lolNaples and lolSpain don't influence our nations.

I could... Deal with that.... A federation more like. Very uncentralized.

Or even better, a Confederation.

[Mishmahig]

BTW we are really close allies and trade partners. Have been for three hundred years.

As long as Genoa does not interfere with my other interests, our alliances can continue.

[Lunas Legion]

Still want to know what the pop of Venice's lands would be.

[Aden Protectorate]

I'm glad to see my demands on Courland have gone unnoticed. Perhaps this can pass without blowing up into an International Incident.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

I'm glad to see my demands on Courland have gone unnoticed. Perhaps this can pass without blowing up into an International Incident.

Only two nations I can see being pissed off about it, Denmark and Poland. Both of which are NPCs, perhaps you should determine their reactions with a RNG?

Also, do we even consider Savoy Italian? I mean it mainly holds French lands.

Edit: well according to the map of the P-I League, it is not Italian. Interesting.

[Aden Protectorate]

I'm glad to see my demands on Courland have gone unnoticed. Perhaps this can pass without blowing up into an International Incident.

Only two nations I can see being pissed off about it, Denmark and Poland. Both of which are NPCs, perhaps you should determine their reactions with a RNG?

Also, do we even consider Savoy Italian? I mean it mainly holds French lands.

I thought the HRE might be pissed, but now that Bohemia is my ally that shouldn't be a problem.

I consider it a cross between the two. Like a buffer zone almost.

[Kryskov]

Still want to know what the pop of Venice's lands would be.

Populstat says around 2 mil. I'd say 2.2 mil.

Heh. No. I'd be willing to trade my part of N.Italy that isn't Venice for Greek land, but otherwise, I'm against any N.Italian state and will be until destroyed.

You were not included in the idea. It was just me, Florence (which is also me), and Genoa, the HRE Italy powers.

Savoy isn't really Italy. It holds Italian lands, but other than that, its population is mostly French. I'd like to see the Aosta valley returned.

[Lunas Legion]

Still want to know what the pop of Venice's lands would be.

Populstat says around 2 mil. I'd say 2.2 mil.

Is that Venice and its Italian territories alone, or everything inc colonies?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

If Venice doesn't want Jamaica and Bermuda, you could get a discount on Macau if you throw them into the deal c:

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

I am sorry Adel, the bigotry in this RP in regards to Eurocentrism is far too high. You should probably think about the possibility of switching as well as there is only going to be dogpile in that region.

Alright, no.

There's not going to be.

Like my god, there's no bigotry either. It's Europeans looking to colonize things, like you know they actually did in history. No one has ever said they will be successful in trying to colonize Asia, have they? Asia could easily repel them if they worked together.

He doesn't have to switch at all, as he's currently under Scottish protection. And being under Scottish protection brings in Burgundy, Russia, Sweden, and Spain to also protect you, as they're my good friends.

So no, he's perfectly alive.

In my opinion, the Scramble for Asia will be enough of a dogpile

[Lunas Legion]

If Venice doesn't want Jamaica and Bermuda, you could get a discount on Macau if you throw them into the deal c:

Possible. I do, however, have the Andaman/Nicobar Islands in the Far East though, but I might try and bid for Macau. Not throwing in Berumuda or Jamacia in though, unless the price reaches a certain level which I'm not disclosing.

[Caltarania]

I am sorry Adel, the bigotry in this RP in regards to Eurocentrism is far too high. You should probably think about the possibility of switching as well as there is only going to be dogpile in that region.

No, there is Eurocentrism because there was IRL.

But I am gonna propose an OP ruling to prevent dogpiles unless they actually make some sort of sense.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Alright, no.

There's not going to be.

Like my god, there's no bigotry either. It's Europeans looking to colonize things, like you know they actually did in history. No one has ever said they will be successful in trying to colonize Asia, have they? Asia could easily repel them if they worked together.

He doesn't have to switch at all, as he's currently under Scottish protection. And being under Scottish protection brings in Burgundy, Russia, Sweden, and Spain to also protect you, as they're my good friends.

So no, he's perfectly alive.

In my opinion, the Scramble for Asia will be enough of a dogpile

It would be a bunch of European nations vs. a bunch of Asian nations at the same time, if it even happens.

How is that a dogpile? It won't be 10 European countries going country by country.

[Lunas Legion]

In my opinion, the Scramble for Asia will be enough of a dogpile

It would be a bunch of European nations vs. a bunch of Asian nations at the same time, if it even happens.

How is that a dogpile? It won't be 10 European countries going country by country.

Not to mention that Asia outnumbers Europe by a lot in simple population terms. If worst comes to worst, they'll just force the Euros to run out of ammo and bury them under a wave of levies.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

I am sorry Adel, the bigotry in this RP in regards to Eurocentrism is far too high. You should probably think about the possibility of switching as well as there is only going to be dogpile in that region.

No, there is Eurocentrism because there was IRL.

But I am gonna propose an OP ruling to prevent dogpiles unless they actually make some sort of sense.

I do understand that, however I think with the PoD being aw early as 1300 wouldn't there be at least the chance of a less Eurocentric world? Let's not forget that if it wasn't for China's abandonment of its grand fleet and choice to isolate itself, Europe wouldn't have had such a precendented influence in the region.

I could stay as Siam if your proposal goes through.

In regards to me calling a certain happening bigotry is because even with a PoD as early as 1300, it is still prohibit to for example let a China not go into isolationism and instead take an imperialist stance, etc.

[Lunas Legion]

Populstat says around 2 mil. I'd say 2.2 mil.

Is that Venice and its Italian territories alone, or everything inc colonies?

[Caltarania]

It would be a bunch of European nations vs. a bunch of Asian nations at the same time, if it even happens.

How is that a dogpile? It won't be 10 European countries going country by country.

Not to mention that Asia outnumbers Europe by a lot in simple population terms. If worst comes to worst, they'll just force the Euros to run out of ammo and bury them under a wave of levies.

I think that is both the best and worst strategy xD

Not to mention, most of the Asian nations are westernizing in some form. Japan just got 1,000 guns, for example, and Daksina is getting industrial aid from the Scots.

No, there is Eurocentrism because there was IRL.

But I am gonna propose an OP ruling to prevent dogpiles unless they actually make some sort of sense.

I do understand that, however I think with the PoD being aw early as 1300 wouldn't there be at least the chance of a less Eurocentric world? Let's not forget that if it wasn't for China's abandonment of its grand fleet and choice to isolate itself, Europe wouldn't have had such a precendented influence in the region.

I could stay as Siam if your proposal goes through.

In regards to me calling a certain happening bigotry is because even with a PoD as early as 1300, it is still prohibit to for example let a China not go into isolationism and instead take an imperialist stance, etc.

Eurocentrism is a thing in this RP. It's not as prevelant as OTL, though, hence the relative lack of European colonies in general.

Wut? That's a simple matter of fucking balance. Fully modernized China by 1836 is so goddamn OP that it ruins the RP for all other players involved.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Venice will buy Macau.

It'll be our hidey-hole for after the Milan-Naples alliance conquers Italy.

Send us IC letter yo and attend the auction c:

Speaking of that alliance and Italy, it brings up the topic of the Papacy.

Is Catholic Europe going to let them subjugate the Pope? It seems highly unlikely that an entirely continent of Catholics would just be like nah bro you can rule the Pope it's totally k.

Which brings the question, what are we going to do with the Pope after he is likely defeated? Move him to a new city? Liberate Rome? Negotiate an independent Vatican City?

my plan is an Independent Vatican.

[Reatra]

BTW we are really close allies and trade partners. Have been for three hundred years.

As long as Genoa does not interfere with my other interests, our alliances can continue.

Would unification of Iberia be in your interests?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Not to mention that Asia outnumbers Europe by a lot in simple population terms. If worst comes to worst, they'll just force the Euros to run out of ammo and bury them under a wave of levies.

I think that is both the best and worst strategy xD

Not to mention, most of the Asian nations are westernizing in some form. Japan just got 1,000 guns, for example, and Daksina is getting industrial aid from the Scots.

Mainly because the Scots have a strong interest in not seeing nations like Aragon and the Anglios arrive in Asia and start stealing all the shit there. We have more of an interest in "building" our own allies who would be able to withstand them and splitting up the Spice Isles with Burgundy.

[Caltarania]

As long as Genoa does not interfere with my other interests, our alliances can continue.

Would unification of Iberia be in your interests?

-Anglois stare-

[Bujahla]

There won't be. Asia and the Orient is far too stronk, as I said.

And yeah, take a look at the roster and map.

Thank you for your patience, I highly appreciate that you are being nice

It seems this RP is too Eurocentric, so I think I could go for something in Europe. I will take a look at the map.

You are really dense. This RP is hardly eurcoentric. It's just one person talking shit and you can't even look past that...

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Not to mention that Asia outnumbers Europe by a lot in simple population terms. If worst comes to worst, they'll just force the Euros to run out of ammo and bury them under a wave of levies.

I think that is both the best and worst strategy xD

Not to mention, most of the Asian nations are westernizing in some form. Japan just got 1,000 guns, for example, and Daksina is getting industrial aid from the Scots.

I do understand that, however I think with the PoD being aw early as 1300 wouldn't there be at least the chance of a less Eurocentric world? Let's not forget that if it wasn't for China's abandonment of its grand fleet and choice to isolate itself, Europe wouldn't have had such a precendented influence in the region.

I could stay as Siam if your proposal goes through.

In regards to me calling a certain happening bigotry is because even with a PoD as early as 1300, it is still prohibit to for example let a China not go into isolationism and instead take an imperialist stance, etc.

Eurocentrism is a thing in this RP. It's not as prevelant as OTL, though, hence the relative lack of European colonies in general.

Wut? That's a simple matter of fucking balance. Fully modernized China by 1836 is so goddamn OP that it ruins the RP for all other players involved.

True, I do understand that but also we can't make Europe an OP just as a simple matter of balance or else we would defeat our own purpose.

As I said before, if dogpile is prohibited on Asia (to the extend that Asia is not permitted to progress from 1300 to 1836), then I will stay as Siam and not abandon my good friend Adel.

Hey Adel