Forge of Empires - AH RP [OOC/Open]

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Huehuehue So I will finally be the sole holder of the Duchy of Savoy.

The, uh, title yes. The territory, not really.

Also, I'd like to partition a piece off into the Swiss cantons, so the Duchy would be split into three -- the Kingdom of the Lombards, the Free Republic of Savoy, and the Swiss <whatever>.

The Swiss are part of Bavaria....

[Liecthenbourg]

The, uh, title yes. The territory, not really.

Also, I'd like to partition a piece off into the Swiss cantons, so the Duchy would be split into three -- the Kingdom of the Lombards, the Free Republic of Savoy, and the Swiss <whatever>.

The Swiss are part of Bavaria....

Not all of them, but a majority IIRC.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

The Swiss are part of Bavaria....

Not all of them, but a majority IIRC.

Basicly all of the German Swiss,

[Delsola]

Okay that makes more sense to me now. But the land on the map seems very incorrect to me. Milan has never specifically captured any areas, and certainly hasn't secured up to the far Northern border with the Anglois for example.
If the King of Milan gave up claim to the title of Duke of Savoy, but demanded provinces x, y and z as de jure part of whatever title as a kind of compensation, I'd be happy to agree to that. The stuff about the PIL is between you and the PIL though.

Milan won't exist much longer; it'll be redeclared as the Kingdom of the Lombards, so renouncing the claim to the title of Duke of Savoy is fine.

Now, the map is the tricky area. What would you suggest, preferably with an image?

Savoy Pink - Core Regions
Purple-Pink - Aosta Valley Region
Brown - Swiss Cantons
Purple-Pink - Franche Comte (Free County)
Dark Pink - Provence

Perhaps claim the Aosta Valley as part of the de jure Kingdom of Milan, or that it should be Milanese due to being in only personal union with Savoy prior to the succession and unincorporated, and as such following a different succession law and passing to Milan?

[Bujahla]

Milan won't exist much longer; it'll be redeclared as the Kingdom of the Lombards, so renouncing the claim to the title of Duke of Savoy is fine.

Now, the map is the tricky area. What would you suggest, preferably with an image?

Savoy Pink - Core Regions
Purple-Pink - Aosta Valley Region
Brown - Swiss Cantons
Purple-Pink - Franche Comte (Free County)
Dark Pink - Provence

Perhaps claim the Aosta Valley as part of the de jure Kingdom of Milan, or that it should be Milanese due to being in only personal union with Savoy prior to the succession and unincorporated, and as such following a different succession law and passing to Milan?

Can you remake this with entirely different colors xD. Like white out all the other nations and just use like bright colors. I don't know my geography as well as I'd like to for this and they are all pretty similar.

EDIT: Jk i figured it out

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Milan won't exist much longer; it'll be redeclared as the Kingdom of the Lombards, so renouncing the claim to the title of Duke of Savoy is fine.

Now, the map is the tricky area. What would you suggest, preferably with an image?

Savoy Pink - Core Regions
Purple-Pink - Aosta Valley Region
Brown - Swiss Cantons
Purple-Pink - Franche Comte (Free County)
Dark Pink - Provence

Perhaps claim the Aosta Valley as part of the de jure Kingdom of Milan, or that it should be Milanese due to being in only personal union with Savoy prior to the succession and unincorporated, and as such following a different succession law and passing to Milan?

What. Milan would be loosing land.

[The New Lowlands]

0/10 republic should own all of italy

[Delsola]

(Image)

Savoy Pink - Core Regions
Purple-Pink - Aosta Valley Region
Brown - Swiss Cantons
Purple-Pink - Franche Comte (Free County)
Dark Pink - Provence

Perhaps claim the Aosta Valley as part of the de jure Kingdom of Milan, or that it should be Milanese due to being in only personal union with Savoy prior to the succession and unincorporated, and as such following a different succession law and passing to Milan?

What. Milan would be loosing land.

Once again, the map on the front page presumes Milan has already annexed Savoy and only leaves out areas specifically occupied by Aragon, which is not realistically the case.

[Mishmahig]

What. Milan would be loosing land.

Once again, the map on the front page presumes Milan has already annexed Savoy and only leaves out areas specifically occupied by Aragon, which is not realistically the case.

I like that idea, but I dislike the Core Regions. Perhaps we could split it between the Free Republic of Savoy (as the legitimate successor state to the Duchy of Savoy), Franche-Comte, and Milan? Milan would claim the Aosta Valley and the parts of the Core Regions they can reach as the de jure Kingdom of the Lombards, while Franche Comte gets another piece of French-speaking Savoy, and the Free Republic takes the remainder.

I ask only for two reasons: 1) I need enough territory with republic-tendencies to outweigh the staunchly monarchist Milan areas, so I can flip to becoming a Noble Republic, and 2) it makes the map prettier, without so many NPCs.

I imagine the Swiss would become Germania-influenced, while the Franche-Comte state would fall into the Anglois sphere of influence. Would this map seem acceptable to you as a final result?

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Once again, the map on the front page presumes Milan has already annexed Savoy and only leaves out areas specifically occupied by Aragon, which is not realistically the case.

I like that idea, but I dislike the Core Regions. Perhaps we could split it between the Free Republic of Savoy (as the legitimate successor state to the Duchy of Savoy), Franche-Comte, and Milan? Milan would claim the Aosta Valley and the parts of the Core Regions they can reach as the de jure Kingdom of the Lombards, while Franche Comte gets another piece of French-speaking Savoy, and the Free Republic takes the remainder.

I ask only for two reasons: 1) I need enough territory with republic-tendencies to outweigh the staunchly monarchist Milan areas, so I can flip to becoming a Noble Republic, and 2) it makes the map prettier, without so many NPCs.

I imagine the Swiss would become Germania-influenced, while the Franche-Comte state would fall into the Anglois sphere of influence. Would this map seem acceptable to you as a final result?

Just want to tell you...Savoia and Aosta the provinces you are getting don't have many people....I mean like Parma has a larger population than Savoia

[Delsola]

Once again, the map on the front page presumes Milan has already annexed Savoy and only leaves out areas specifically occupied by Aragon, which is not realistically the case.

I like that idea, but I dislike the Core Regions. Perhaps we could split it between the Free Republic of Savoy (as the legitimate successor state to the Duchy of Savoy), Franche-Comte, and Milan? Milan would claim the Aosta Valley and the parts of the Core Regions they can reach as the de jure Kingdom of the Lombards, while Franche Comte gets another piece of French-speaking Savoy, and the Free Republic takes the remainder.

I ask only for two reasons: 1) I need enough territory with republic-tendencies to outweigh the staunchly monarchist Milan areas, so I can flip to becoming a Noble Republic, and 2) it makes the map prettier, without so many NPCs.

I imagine the Swiss would become Germania-influenced, while the Franche-Comte state would fall into the Anglois sphere of influence. Would this map seem acceptable to you as a final result?

Whoa whoa whoa, the divisions I showed are just administrative regions of Savoy. I'm not suggesting it explode into five different states for no reason. And the 'core region' is as such because that is the actual Duchy of Savoy, would annexation of more Swiss territory not be more suitable?

[Mishmahig]

I like that idea, but I dislike the Core Regions. Perhaps we could split it between the Free Republic of Savoy (as the legitimate successor state to the Duchy of Savoy), Franche-Comte, and Milan? Milan would claim the Aosta Valley and the parts of the Core Regions they can reach as the de jure Kingdom of the Lombards, while Franche Comte gets another piece of French-speaking Savoy, and the Free Republic takes the remainder.

I ask only for two reasons: 1) I need enough territory with republic-tendencies to outweigh the staunchly monarchist Milan areas, so I can flip to becoming a Noble Republic, and 2) it makes the map prettier, without so many NPCs.

I imagine the Swiss would become Germania-influenced, while the Franche-Comte state would fall into the Anglois sphere of influence. Would this map seem acceptable to you as a final result?

Whoa whoa whoa, the divisions I showed are just administrative regions of Savoy. I'm not suggesting it explode into five different states for no reason. And the 'core region' is as such because that is the actual Duchy of Savoy, would annexation of more Swiss territory not be more suitable?

Mmm, the independence of the Swiss cantons is likely to happen, given that they're the dominant ethnic minority in the region, and Bavaria's involved in policing that.

The independence of Franche-Comte was more to appease the Anglois, giving them a satellite state to watch over. If you want, we could simply make it so Milan seizes three territories as 'de jure' belonging to them, while securing the independence of the Swiss to appease the Bavarians, while everything else goes to the Free Republic as the successor to the Duchy.

[Delsola]

Whoa whoa whoa, the divisions I showed are just administrative regions of Savoy. I'm not suggesting it explode into five different states for no reason. And the 'core region' is as such because that is the actual Duchy of Savoy, would annexation of more Swiss territory not be more suitable?

Mmm, the independence of the Swiss cantons is likely to happen, given that they're the dominant ethnic minority in the region, and Bavaria's involved in policing that.

The independence of Franche-Comte was more to appease the Anglois, giving them a satellite state to watch over. If you want, we could simply make it so Milan seizes three territories as 'de jure' belonging to them, while securing the independence of the Swiss to appease the Bavarians, while everything else goes to the Free Republic as the successor to the Duchy.

Since when has anyone expressed interest in the independence of any of these territories? Aragon would be failing the Republic if it allowed it to be so thoroughly divided.

[Mishmahig]

Mmm, the independence of the Swiss cantons is likely to happen, given that they're the dominant ethnic minority in the region, and Bavaria's involved in policing that.

The independence of Franche-Comte was more to appease the Anglois, giving them a satellite state to watch over. If you want, we could simply make it so Milan seizes three territories as 'de jure' belonging to them, while securing the independence of the Swiss to appease the Bavarians, while everything else goes to the Free Republic as the successor to the Duchy.

Since when has anyone expressed interest in the independence of any of these territories? Aragon would be failing the Republic if it allowed it to be so thoroughly divided.

I mean, there are three options with this suggestion -- 1) Milan gains three territories, with the FSR getting the rest, 2) 3 territories to Milan, independence of the Swiss, or 3) Milan takes three, Franche-Comte and the Swiss gain independence.

The Anglois would like a bevy of weaker states along their border, the better to influence and ultimately sphere, while the Germans want to see their Swiss comrades given independence, and Milan just wishes to see the Free Republic weakened further.

[Bujahla]

Since when has anyone expressed interest in the independence of any of these territories? Aragon would be failing the Republic if it allowed it to be so thoroughly divided.

I mean, there are three options with this suggestion -- 1) Milan gains three territories, with the FSR getting the rest, 2) 3 territories to Milan, independence of the Swiss, or 3) Milan takes three, Franche-Comte and the Swiss gain independence.

The Anglois would like a bevy of weaker states along their border, the better to influence and ultimately sphere, while the Germans want to see their Swiss comrades given independence, and Milan just wishes to see the Free Republic weakened further.

This be true.

[The knights of kings]

Il get a post up soonish

[Bujahla]

K this is dead. Nice while it lasted. RIP

[Neros]

K this is dead. Nice while it lasted. RIP

It was, you are right. RIP.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Ah, I wandered off and she died? Pity. I was looking forward to my Mughal-Ottoman War alongside Russia.

[Tyben]

It's a shame, I've been waiting for people to post and no one ever does lol.

[Liecthenbourg]

K this is dead. Nice while it lasted. RIP

A pity. If you ever feel like rebooting Buj, let us know.

[Of The Rnclave]

What year is it? And what should I post about?

[Prusslandia]

What is the current in game situation ?

[Finland SSR]

What is the current in game situation ?

Dead.