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Postby Delsola » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:43 am

Tyben wrote:Just so everyone knows, the Pope is demanding white peace in the Savoy situation, demanding the withdrawal of the forces of Milan and creating legitimacy for the Republic of Savoy within its designated borders. Basically, he is ending the conflict and not really giving Aragon or Milan a choice in the matter, or else.


By designated borders, do we mean the borders of Savoy?

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Postby Caltarania » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:44 am

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I don't think you actual understand what the Scots are doing in the West, aka nothing.

And if I recall war with the PIL and Genoa over Savoy and Morocco might leave you a bit tied up in the West to deal effectively with the East.


Oh, I think I understand plenty
And point taken


Finally, someone noticed.

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Postby Delsola » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:44 am

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Delsola wrote:
Oh, I think I understand plenty
And point taken


You linked me to a Spanish post about Mexico and Cuba idk even???


Try reading it before popping up

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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:45 am

Tyben wrote:Just so everyone knows, the Pope is demanding white peace in the Savoy situation, demanding the withdrawal of the forces of Milan and creating legitimacy for the Republic of Savoy within its designated borders. Basically, he is ending the conflict and not really giving Aragon or Milan a choice in the matter, or else.

Why is it everytime I go to fight a war Jesus ends it?
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:46 am

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
Tyben wrote:Just so everyone knows, the Pope is demanding white peace in the Savoy situation, demanding the withdrawal of the forces of Milan and creating legitimacy for the Republic of Savoy within its designated borders. Basically, he is ending the conflict and not really giving Aragon or Milan a choice in the matter, or else.

Why is it everytime I go to fight a war Jesus ends it?

Naples' contribution will be truly great, and thus the war will largely become one sided. ;)
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:46 am

Delsola wrote:
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You linked me to a Spanish post about Mexico and Cuba idk even???


Try reading it before popping up


Okay so and?

One I don't quite get how any of that makes sense.

Two, I have plenty of allies that can aid me in pacifying the Spanish. I've had a secret coalition against them for a while. Actually I have one against most people.

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Postby Liecthenbourg » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:47 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Delsola wrote:
Try reading it before popping up


Okay so and?

One I don't quite get how any of that makes sense.

Two, I have plenty of allies that can aid me in pacifying the Spanish. I've had a secret coalition against them for a while. Actually I have one against most people.

Yes, indeed you do.
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Postby Mishmahig » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:47 am

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
Tyben wrote:Just so everyone knows, the Pope is demanding white peace in the Savoy situation, demanding the withdrawal of the forces of Milan and creating legitimacy for the Republic of Savoy within its designated borders. Basically, he is ending the conflict and not really giving Aragon or Milan a choice in the matter, or else.

Why is it everytime I go to fight a war Jesus ends it?


I mean, it depends on whether the Pope meant the previous border or the current border.

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Postby Delsola » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:49 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Delsola wrote:
Try reading it before popping up


Okay so and?

One I don't quite get how any of that makes sense.

Two, I have plenty of allies that can aid me in pacifying the Spanish. I've had a secret coalition against them for a while. Actually I have one against most people.


If it makes sense isn't my problem, the Spanish have invaded Scottish Hispaniola, so it does have to do with you, so there was no need to question why I brought it up. And whether you have a coalition against them isn't relevant.

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Postby Caltarania » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:50 am

Delsola wrote:
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Okay so and?

One I don't quite get how any of that makes sense.

Two, I have plenty of allies that can aid me in pacifying the Spanish. I've had a secret coalition against them for a while. Actually I have one against most people.


If it makes sense isn't my problem, the Spanish have are about to invaded Scottish Hispaniola, so it does have to do with you, so there was no need to question why I brought it up. And whether you have a coalition against them isn't relevant.


We haven't officially declared war yet.
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:51 am

Caltarania wrote:
Delsola wrote:
If it makes sense isn't my problem, the Spanish have are about to invaded Scottish Hispaniola, so it does have to do with you, so there was no need to question why I brought it up. And whether you have a coalition against them isn't relevant.


We haven't officially declared war yet.


And I highly suggest not doing so.

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Postby Caltarania » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:51 am

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We haven't officially declared war yet.


And I highly suggest not doing so.


You still fail to see the method behind the madness.
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Postby Bujahla » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:52 am

Caltarania wrote:
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And I highly suggest not doing so.


You still fail to see the method behind the madness.


Your CB is absolute shit
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Nah, son. Britain was all like "yo, why my colonies be all uppity an' shit?!" And Lord Durham laid it straight: "they be wantin' legislation with representation, dawg."


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Postby Mishmahig » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:53 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
We haven't officially declared war yet.


And I highly suggest not doing so.


It's actually really good timing. I mean, revolts in Cambodia, sorta-annexing Burgundian Indies, issues in North America, intervening in the Bavarian War...

The Anglois are similarly occupied, and, yeah.

It's perfect timing, really.

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Postby Caltarania » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:53 am

Bujahla wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
You still fail to see the method behind the madness.


Your CB is absolute shit


Pfft, and the Scottish CBs in Oceania/Asia weren't?

The CB is the method not the means.

Mishmahig wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
And I highly suggest not doing so.


It's actually really good timing. I mean, revolts in Cambodia, sorta-annexing Burgundian Indies, issues in North America, intervening in the Bavarian War...

The Anglois are similarly occupied, and, yeah.

It's perfect timing, really.


Mhm.

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Postby Tyben » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:54 am

Mishmahig wrote:
Tyben wrote:Just so everyone knows, the Pope is demanding white peace in the Savoy situation, demanding the withdrawal of the forces of Milan and creating legitimacy for the Republic of Savoy within its designated borders. Basically, he is ending the conflict and not really giving Aragon or Milan a choice in the matter, or else.


I like the deal, but I feel that Aragon will quote Stalin about the matter. What was it? "How many legions does the Pope have?"


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Postby Bujahla » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:55 am

Caltarania wrote:
Bujahla wrote:
Your CB is absolute shit


Pfft, and the Scottish CBs in Oceania/Asia weren't?

The CB is the method not the means.

Mishmahig wrote:
It's actually really good timing. I mean, revolts in Cambodia, sorta-annexing Burgundian Indies, issues in North America, intervening in the Bavarian War...

The Anglois are similarly occupied, and, yeah.

It's perfect timing, really.


Mhm.

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Your CB is to liberate an island that likes Scotland, your ally and who you have a royal marriage with (scottish queen is a spainard). Colonizing is different...
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Nah, son. Britain was all like "yo, why my colonies be all uppity an' shit?!" And Lord Durham laid it straight: "they be wantin' legislation with representation, dawg."


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Postby Delsola » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:55 am

Mishmahig wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
And I highly suggest not doing so.


It's actually really good timing. I mean, revolts in Cambodia, sorta-annexing Burgundian Indies, issues in North America, intervening in the Bavarian War...

The Anglois are similarly occupied, and, yeah.

It's perfect timing, really.


TBF yeah, all the GPs are kind of locked up and Scotland is kind of stretched as is.

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Postby Bujahla » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:57 am

Mishmahig wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
And I highly suggest not doing so.


It's actually really good timing. I mean, revolts in Cambodia, sorta-annexing Burgundian Indies, issues in North America, intervening in the Bavarian War...

The Anglois are similarly occupied, and, yeah.

It's perfect timing, really.


Where the anglois are occupied:
- Bavaria (will be over by the end of page 10)
- Madagascar (AEIC is colonizing that)
- Burgundy East Africa (AEIC purchased that)
- South Africa (Some troops are there but not that many)

My army is huge and may navy is decent. Anglois aren't overextended by a long shot.
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:57 am

Mishmahig wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
And I highly suggest not doing so.


It's actually really good timing. I mean, revolts in Cambodia, sorta-annexing Burgundian Indies, issues in North America, intervening in the Bavarian War...

The Anglois are similarly occupied, and, yeah.

It's perfect timing, really.


1. Cambodia was pacified already, I just have not put it in the IC

2. We are not taking any lands

3. What issues in North America? I do not recall any at all

4. That war is already over, and once again the Scots committed nothing with the exception of 7500 men and enough of our homeland fleet to blockade Bavaria with the Anglios.

5. It is also great timing, considering my lack of time for IC posts. College is a bitch. I'm afraid I lack the time to properly RP the war, so yeah there is that as well.

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:58 am

Delsola wrote:
Mishmahig wrote:
It's actually really good timing. I mean, revolts in Cambodia, sorta-annexing Burgundian Indies, issues in North America, intervening in the Bavarian War...

The Anglois are similarly occupied, and, yeah.

It's perfect timing, really.


TBF yeah, all the GPs are kind of locked up and Scotland is kind of stretched as is.


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Postby Delsola » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:58 am

Mishmahig wrote:
The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:Why is it everytime I go to fight a war Jesus ends it?


I mean, it depends on whether the Pope meant the previous border or the current border.


The current border (as in the one on page one) I'm sure you'll agree is kind of inaccurate. There should be pretty much all neutral zone, with the Aragonese in 2/3 provinces and the Milanese just in the North, not stretched all the way to the Anglois border.

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Postby Aden Protectorate » Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:01 am

Delsola wrote:
Aden Protectorate wrote:One more question. Sorry.

What is this whole "Free Savoy Republic" thing that I am apparently involved in?


The Duke of Savoy died with no heir or immediate family to succeed him. The Duke of Milan and King of Naples both had claims to the throne as cadet branches of the House of Savoy. General Hollande, first minister to the old Duke, retained nominal control of the Duchy. Factions within his government appealed to numerous nations whilst Milan and Naples prepared to press their claims. Republican factions within the government appealed to Aragon who subsequently guaranteed the independence of the nation, on the basis that a new, liberal constitution similar to that of Aragon had been promised. When Milan invaded Savoy, Aragon involved themselves, occupying Toulon and declaring the Free Republic of Savoy, a new liberal regime under the influence of the Aragonese military, and inviting Hollande to become its President as he was the true heir to the Duke's authority in the absence of a suitable blood heir. General Hollande accepted. Meanwhile, 50,000 Milanese troops marched towards Geneva to apprehend Hollande and integrate him into the new Milanese regime that was to control Savoy upon its integration, however he escape with his loyalist army and is marching towards friendly Toulon.

With the backing of Hollande and diplomatic recognition by Spain, the Anglois, Venice and perhaps others I may be forgetting as well as presumably NPCs, Aragon felt it was in a secure enough position to demand Milan leave Savoyard territory on threat of war, with a week to respond.

As all this is happening Naples is funding pro-Italian rebels whilst factions engage in civil war on the streets of non-occupied areas, e.g pro-Milanese Italians fighting pro-independence Occitans in Grenoble perhaps.


Thank you! :kiss: Okay now that I am all caught up I shall begin my post.

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Postby Caltarania » Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:01 am

Bujahla wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Pfft, and the Scottish CBs in Oceania/Asia weren't?

The CB is the method not the means.



Mhm.

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Your CB is to liberate an island that likes Scotland, your ally and who you have a royal marriage with (scottish queen is a spainard). Colonizing is different...


No, our CB is to push our claim on Espanola. Pfft, many nations have had 'Royal Marriages' throughout the ages, unlike in EU4 it rarely stopped violence between them. Not to mention we ousted the previous government and had a semi-revolution. It's like expecting Hitler to have obeyed the Treaty of Versailles; one of the main reasons he came to power was the promises to destroy it, after all, and the same logical thinking applies here.

Colonizing, yes. Puppeting Asian states, no.
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Postby Delsola » Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:02 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Mishmahig wrote:
It's actually really good timing. I mean, revolts in Cambodia, sorta-annexing Burgundian Indies, issues in North America, intervening in the Bavarian War...

The Anglois are similarly occupied, and, yeah.

It's perfect timing, really.


1. Cambodia was pacified already, I just have not put it in the IC

2. We are not taking any lands

3. What issues in North America? I do not recall any at all

4. That war is already over, and once again the Scots committed nothing with the exception of 7500 men and enough of our homeland fleet to blockade Bavaria with the Anglios.

5. It is also great timing, considering my lack of time for IC posts. College is a bitch. I'm afraid I lack the time to properly RP the war, so yeah there is that as well.


1. Not in the IC equals not happened yet, surely

2. Okay, sure, but it's not an issue of expansion in Indonesia, it's an issue of the bureaucracy being stretched by all of these new ventures making Scotland weaker than it may otherwise be

3. Spain is invading

4. The war with Bavaria hasn't even begun IC

5. Okay

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