Forge of Empires - AH RP [OOC/Open]

[The Grim Reaper]

I believe using Hannover's App is permitted.

Okay awesome. Who control's Constantinople at the moment? And is their anything I should know about Venice's position?

Russia was trying to buy Constantinople off Hannover, Venice is still (?) funding the Savoyard thing, and Venice is awfully close to Germany.

[Liecthenbourg]

I believe using Hannover's App is permitted.

Okay awesome. Who control's Constantinople at the moment? And is their anything I should know about Venice's position?

I believe Venice controls Constantinople.
Venice's Position? Well, it's part of PIL - The Pan-Italian-League.

[Aden Protectorate]

Okay awesome. Who control's Constantinople at the moment? And is their anything I should know about Venice's position?

Russia was trying to buy Constantinople off Hannover, Venice is still (?) funding the Savoyard thing, and Venice is awfully close to Germany.

I also see that Aragon has proposed an alliance to me, to counterbalance Milan. I'll have to take them up on that.

[Aden Protectorate]

Credits to Hannover - his app was used - I was told I could use his app, I am sorry if I am not allowed to

Generic Info
Nation Name: The Most Serene Republic of Venice
Symbols: Flag, Coat of Arms, and National Anthem
Homeland Population: 2.2 million
Imperial Population: 2.3 million (just colonies) 4.5 million (total)
Location/Claims: 22 (claims 23 and 33 as Venetian territory)
Capital City: Venice (Venezia)

Government Info
Government Type: Oligarchic Republic
Brief Explanation of Government:

Ideology: Fiscal Conservatism, Economic Liberalism, State Capitalism, Pan-Italianism (? - Not sure if it is too early).
Leader/s: Doge Alexio Angelos

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: Venetians, are, for the most part, a hard-working people motivated by money; Venice was, and is, a republic built on wealth and it's uses, and this has rubbed off on her people. A loose personality cult has also built up around house Ziani, which controls the state and is viewed to be a shining example of what every Venetian should be.
Religion: Roman Catholicism is the main and official religion, however there are Orthodox and Muslim groups within the territories of Venice; they are also given full rights in respect to worship.
Ethnicity: Venetians are mostly Italian or Greek; few other ethnicities are of sufficient number to challenge these two, which make up most of the bureaucracy, although there are some Croatian elements primarily located in Croatia.
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Venetian/Italian (Main Culture), Lombard (Accepted), Greek (Accepted).
Other Cultures: Croatian

Military Info
Army: Venetian Guard; 45,000. Although small, the Venetian Guard is highly-trained and well-equipped. Meant to defend Venice's interests abroad, it also finds itself being used as the Ziani family's group of enforcers.
Navy: Venetian Navy; larger than the guard, and receiving much more funding, is the Venetian Navy. Used primarily for defence and policing rather than expansion, the officer corps of the navy is one of the best in the world, although it remains unknown if this carries over to the regular crewmen. Strength to be decided on.

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: Venice's economy is how it has always been; trade-based. The Venetian Merchant Navy is one of the world's largest, and as such Venice benefits greatly from it. However, there is also a small agricultural sector, based mainly around wheat or grapes and the resulting wine which is exported wherever there is demand.
Goals: Establish more trading posts on the way to and from the Far East. Ensure that house Angelos lasts as rulers of somewhere for the next thousand years. Establish an industrial base in Venice. Increase the wealth of Venice's citizens. Improve relations with all Italian brothers and sisters.
History: History diverges in 1356, in the Fourth Crusade; Alexios IV Angelos makes a deal with the Crusaders that they will be granted all of the Byzantine Empire's territory in Asia Minor in place of the previously promised aid, but the debt to the Venetians will still be repaid. The crusaders agree, and as such prevent his deposition by Alexios Doukas, who instead flees to Thrace and proclaims the Kingdom of Thrace. Alexios, with the support of the crusaders, is able to take control over Constantinople and the surrounding lands, but no more.

The crusaders are successful in their conquest of Asia Minor by 1366, and turn back to Alexios to repay their debt to Venice. Unable to do so, Alexios is forced by the Venetians to cede Constantinople to Venice, with Alexios as it's ruler under the Doge of Venice.

From there, the Republic expanded into Italy, taking over land around Venice and Istria, and expanding it's Dalmatian possessions. It annexed the Kingdom of Cyprus in 1490, after agreeing to void the Kingdom and the ruler's debt to the Republic following a war against the Seljuks. In 1495, Venice began an assimilation policy of the territories acquired up to that point. Great focus was placed on the schooling system and communication outlets in order to create an effective, long-lasting result. The policy has been in motion since then.

Venice remained at peace for most of the 1500's and 1600's, expanding it's trade network further and allowing the house of Angelos to slowly but surely establish it's control over the Venetian political system.

In 1625, Venice established the colonies of Nuovo Venezia (Berumuda) and Nuovo Creta (Jamaica).

RP Sample: You know me, I was Russia before!
429 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

[Liecthenbourg]

Russia was trying to buy Constantinople off Hannover, Venice is still (?) funding the Savoyard thing, and Venice is awfully close to Germany.

I also see that Aragon has proposed an alliance to me, to counterbalance Milan. I'll have to take them up on that.

There goes any stability PIL had left.

[Liecthenbourg]

Credits to Hannover - his app was used - I was told I could use his app, I am sorry if I am not allowed to

Generic Info
Nation Name: The Most Serene Republic of Venice
Symbols: Flag, Coat of Arms, and National Anthem
Homeland Population: 2.2 million
Imperial Population: 2.3 million (just colonies) 4.5 million (total)
Location/Claims: 22 (claims 23 and 33 as Venetian territory)
Capital City: Venice (Venezia)

Government Info
Government Type: Oligarchic Republic
Brief Explanation of Government:

(Image)

Ideology: Fiscal Conservatism, Economic Liberalism, State Capitalism, Pan-Italianism (? - Not sure if it is too early).
Leader/s: Doge Alexio Angelos

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: Venetians, are, for the most part, a hard-working people motivated by money; Venice was, and is, a republic built on wealth and it's uses, and this has rubbed off on her people. A loose personality cult has also built up around house Ziani, which controls the state and is viewed to be a shining example of what every Venetian should be.
Religion: Roman Catholicism is the main and official religion, however there are Orthodox and Muslim groups within the territories of Venice; they are also given full rights in respect to worship.
Ethnicity: Venetians are mostly Italian or Greek; few other ethnicities are of sufficient number to challenge these two, which make up most of the bureaucracy, although there are some Croatian elements primarily located in Croatia.
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Venetian/Italian (Main Culture), Lombard (Accepted), Greek (Accepted).
Other Cultures: Croatian

Military Info
Army: Venetian Guard; 45,000. Although small, the Venetian Guard is highly-trained and well-equipped. Meant to defend Venice's interests abroad, it also finds itself being used as the Ziani family's group of enforcers.
Navy: Venetian Navy; larger than the guard, and receiving much more funding, is the Venetian Navy. Used primarily for defence and policing rather than expansion, the officer corps of the navy is one of the best in the world, although it remains unknown if this carries over to the regular crewmen. Strength to be decided on.

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: Venice's economy is how it has always been; trade-based. The Venetian Merchant Navy is one of the world's largest, and as such Venice benefits greatly from it. However, there is also a small agricultural sector, based mainly around wheat or grapes and the resulting wine which is exported wherever there is demand.
Goals: Establish more trading posts on the way to and from the Far East. Ensure that house Angelos lasts as rulers of somewhere for the next thousand years. Establish an industrial base in Venice. Increase the wealth of Venice's citizens. Improve relations with all Italian brothers and sisters.
History: History diverges in 1356, in the Fourth Crusade; Alexios IV Angelos makes a deal with the Crusaders that they will be granted all of the Byzantine Empire's territory in Asia Minor in place of the previously promised aid, but the debt to the Venetians will still be repaid. The crusaders agree, and as such prevent his deposition by Alexios Doukas, who instead flees to Thrace and proclaims the Kingdom of Thrace. Alexios, with the support of the crusaders, is able to take control over Constantinople and the surrounding lands, but no more.

The crusaders are successful in their conquest of Asia Minor by 1366, and turn back to Alexios to repay their debt to Venice. Unable to do so, Alexios is forced by the Venetians to cede Constantinople to Venice, with Alexios as it's ruler under the Doge of Venice.

From there, the Republic expanded into Italy, taking over land around Venice and Istria, and expanding it's Dalmatian possessions. It annexed the Kingdom of Cyprus in 1490, after agreeing to void the Kingdom and the ruler's debt to the Republic following a war against the Seljuks. In 1495, Venice began an assimilation policy of the territories acquired up to that point. Great focus was placed on the schooling system and communication outlets in order to create an effective, long-lasting result. The policy has been in motion since then.

Venice remained at peace for most of the 1500's and 1600's, expanding it's trade network further and allowing the house of Angelos to slowly but surely establish it's control over the Venetian political system.

In 1625, Venice established the colonies of Nuovo Venezia (Berumuda) and Nuovo Creta (Jamaica).

RP Sample: You know me, I was Russia before!
429 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

Well, since you're reusing Hannover's App and that got accepted; so unless any of the Co-OPs or Buj has anything to say - accepted.
Do keep in mind you lost Bermuda to the Scots - Hannover sold it to them.
I'm not sure if any else changed.

[Aden Protectorate]

Credits to Hannover - his app was used - I was told I could use his app, I am sorry if I am not allowed to

Generic Info
Nation Name: The Most Serene Republic of Venice
Symbols: Flag, Coat of Arms, and National Anthem
Homeland Population: 2.2 million
Imperial Population: 2.3 million (just colonies) 4.5 million (total)
Location/Claims: 22 (claims 23 and 33 as Venetian territory)
Capital City: Venice (Venezia)

Government Info
Government Type: Oligarchic Republic
Brief Explanation of Government:

(Image)

Ideology: Fiscal Conservatism, Economic Liberalism, State Capitalism, Pan-Italianism (? - Not sure if it is too early).
Leader/s: Doge Alexio Angelos

Population Info
Brief Description of your people: Venetians, are, for the most part, a hard-working people motivated by money; Venice was, and is, a republic built on wealth and it's uses, and this has rubbed off on her people. A loose personality cult has also built up around house Ziani, which controls the state and is viewed to be a shining example of what every Venetian should be.
Religion: Roman Catholicism is the main and official religion, however there are Orthodox and Muslim groups within the territories of Venice; they are also given full rights in respect to worship.
Ethnicity: Venetians are mostly Italian or Greek; few other ethnicities are of sufficient number to challenge these two, which make up most of the bureaucracy, although there are some Croatian elements primarily located in Croatia.
Main/Accepted Culture(s): Venetian/Italian (Main Culture), Lombard (Accepted), Greek (Accepted).
Other Cultures: Croatian

Military Info
Army: Venetian Guard; 45,000. Although small, the Venetian Guard is highly-trained and well-equipped. Meant to defend Venice's interests abroad, it also finds itself being used as the Ziani family's group of enforcers.
Navy: Venetian Navy; larger than the guard, and receiving much more funding, is the Venetian Navy. Used primarily for defence and policing rather than expansion, the officer corps of the navy is one of the best in the world, although it remains unknown if this carries over to the regular crewmen. Strength to be decided on.

Other Info
Brief Description of your Economy: Venice's economy is how it has always been; trade-based. The Venetian Merchant Navy is one of the world's largest, and as such Venice benefits greatly from it. However, there is also a small agricultural sector, based mainly around wheat or grapes and the resulting wine which is exported wherever there is demand.
Goals: Establish more trading posts on the way to and from the Far East. Ensure that house Angelos lasts as rulers of somewhere for the next thousand years. Establish an industrial base in Venice. Increase the wealth of Venice's citizens. Improve relations with all Italian brothers and sisters.
History: History diverges in 1356, in the Fourth Crusade; Alexios IV Angelos makes a deal with the Crusaders that they will be granted all of the Byzantine Empire's territory in Asia Minor in place of the previously promised aid, but the debt to the Venetians will still be repaid. The crusaders agree, and as such prevent his deposition by Alexios Doukas, who instead flees to Thrace and proclaims the Kingdom of Thrace. Alexios, with the support of the crusaders, is able to take control over Constantinople and the surrounding lands, but no more.

The crusaders are successful in their conquest of Asia Minor by 1366, and turn back to Alexios to repay their debt to Venice. Unable to do so, Alexios is forced by the Venetians to cede Constantinople to Venice, with Alexios as it's ruler under the Doge of Venice.

From there, the Republic expanded into Italy, taking over land around Venice and Istria, and expanding it's Dalmatian possessions. It annexed the Kingdom of Cyprus in 1490, after agreeing to void the Kingdom and the ruler's debt to the Republic following a war against the Seljuks. In 1495, Venice began an assimilation policy of the territories acquired up to that point. Great focus was placed on the schooling system and communication outlets in order to create an effective, long-lasting result. The policy has been in motion since then.

Venice remained at peace for most of the 1500's and 1600's, expanding it's trade network further and allowing the house of Angelos to slowly but surely establish it's control over the Venetian political system.

In 1625, Venice established the colonies of Nuovo Venezia (Berumuda) and Nuovo Creta (Jamaica).

RP Sample: You know me, I was Russia before!
429 - Do not remove. This is for tracking purposes.

Well, since you're reusing Hannover's App and that got accepted; so unless any of the Co-OPs or Buj has anything to say - accepted.
Do keep in mind you lost Bermuda to the Scots - Hannover sold it to them.
I'm not sure if any else changed.

That's fine. I shall post soon.

[Glovania]

@Grim: Apparently I owe you a response? Or do you owe me one?

[The Grim Reaper]

@Grim: Apparently I owe you a response? Or do you owe me one?

I believe I owe you a response, I 'think'.

[Vredlandia]

That's fine. I shall post soon.

Hey, Venice and Pomerania were very close trading partners. (Trading routes, state visit, our banks are connected slightly, exchanging of embassies, lowering tariffs, we received tons of presents,...) Maybe we could extend that partnership in the future.

[Glovania]

@Grim: Apparently I owe you a response? Or do you owe me one?

I believe I owe you a response, I 'think'.

Okay. I trust that will be in the post that says 'russerved' on the latest page?

[Bujahla]

Bring Orthodoxy to Kaffa for relevance !

Scotland is having good idea!

Next, Russia also bring Orthodoxy to Israel!

genoa no can have promised land, promised land only for into by orthodox

Fuck you. xD

I have had that idea for a while now.

Oh my lort god bless.

This makes the whole thing totally hella more interesting. How will the like 250 million Catholics in Germania react now I am so interested.

-Reformation intensifies-

But seriously, should Isabella not get DotF then Spain may very well join in said Reformation...

EDIT: Also, if the Andeans somehow now about my invasion of Panama but I can somehow not know about their plans for the Grenadine Confed, I humbly ask to remove said part of preparation from my post.

EDIT2: Also, I only noticed just now, but I think it's a bit unfair that the Andeans are able to take over half of an entire continent with no repercussions whereas when Bavaria unites Germany - as they were meant to - the entire world goes fucking batshit crazy.

Sigh. On Edit2, we've had a planned course for the Andeans since day one....

Swahili League, Tibet, various HRE states, a few Chinese states iirc, the Mamlukes, Oman, a few others.

If you wanted to be the Swahili League, the Oman, a Chinese state, or Tibet, Russia would be your bestie as long as you promise to leave Uyghurstan alone.

Russia wtf. Swahili be russian friend? Likely since you have no control of the indian ocean...

Okay awesome. Who control's Constantinople at the moment? And is their anything I should know about Venice's position?

Russia was trying to buy Constantinople off Hannover, Venice is still (?) funding the Savoyard thing, and Venice is awfully close to Germany.

Venice has probably turned away from Germany seeing that Bavaria has gonna mega-big on its borders. While it's been an NPC I've made it so that the Anglois and Venetians were getting comfy with lots of increased trade and shits. Anglois also supports Venetian claims to Constantinople. If you accept alliance with Aragon, then we can into triple alliance.

[The Grim Reaper]

Venice has probably turned away from Germany seeing that Bavaria has gonna mega-big on its borders. While it's been an NPC I've made it so that the Anglois and Venetians were getting comfy with lots of increased trade and shits. Anglois also supports Venetian claims to Constantinople. If you accept alliance with Aragon, then we can into triple alliance.

I meant physically close.

Anglois also supports Venetian claims to Constantinople. If you accept alliance with Aragon, then we can into triple alliance.

The Anglios dogs in Japan are eternal enemies of the Russian Crown.

[Caltarania]

-Reformation intensifies-

But seriously, should Isabella not get DotF then Spain may very well join in said Reformation...

EDIT: Also, if the Andeans somehow now about my invasion of Panama but I can somehow not know about their plans for the Grenadine Confed, I humbly ask to remove said part of preparation from my post.

EDIT2: Also, I only noticed just now, but I think it's a bit unfair that the Andeans are able to take over half of an entire continent with no repercussions whereas when Bavaria unites Germany - as they were meant to - the entire world goes fucking batshit crazy.

Sigh. On Edit2, we've had a planned course for the Andeans since day one....

Well thanks for fucking telling me now...

[Liecthenbourg]

Venice has probably turned away from Germany seeing that Bavaria has gonna mega-big on its borders. While it's been an NPC I've made it so that the Anglois and Venetians were getting comfy with lots of increased trade and shits. Anglois also supports Venetian claims to Constantinople. If you accept alliance with Aragon, then we can into triple alliance.

That alliance is a little silly though, but makes sense in other terms.
If Venice allies with Aragon to bring Milan down to size, it makes enemies out of two PIL states.
- Milan.
- Naples.

The Papacy? I have no idea, but it seems PIL is in their best interests. (Not sure)

[The Grim Reaper]

Venice has probably turned away from Germany seeing that Bavaria has gonna mega-big on its borders. While it's been an NPC I've made it so that the Anglois and Venetians were getting comfy with lots of increased trade and shits. Anglois also supports Venetian claims to Constantinople. If you accept alliance with Aragon, then we can into triple alliance.

That alliance is a little silly though, but makes sense in other terms.
If Venice allies with Milan to bring it down to size, it makes enemies out of two PIL states.
- Milan.
- Naples.

The Papacy? I have no idea, but it seems PIL is in their best interests. (Not sure)

Giuseppe is a militant nationalist, but has also changed hands between three RPers .

He was originally meant to be a foil to my logical, sensible Pope, as a somewhat sociopathic crusader, who formed his own personal military order on a whim.

I was never expecting him to become a major character, so I assume he's at the very least toned down a little.

[Delsola]

Venice has probably turned away from Germany seeing that Bavaria has gonna mega-big on its borders. While it's been an NPC I've made it so that the Anglois and Venetians were getting comfy with lots of increased trade and shits. Anglois also supports Venetian claims to Constantinople. If you accept alliance with Aragon, then we can into triple alliance.

That alliance is a little silly though, but makes sense in other terms.
If Venice allies with Aragon to bring Milan down to size, it makes enemies out of two PIL states.
- Milan.
- Naples.

The Papacy? I have no idea, but it seems PIL is in their best interests. (Not sure)

Venice never particularly cared about the PIL and is already rivals with Milan and Genoa. And Giuseppe puts the Papacy above the PIL, so he'll support whatever suits him.

[Rephesus]

Venice is here!

Gib Croatia or be curbstomped pleb.

[Aden Protectorate]

Long live the Anglo-Aragonese-Venetian (god that's a mouthful) Triple Alliance bitches!

[Caltarania]

Long live the Anglo-Aragonese-Venetian (god that's a mouthful) Triple Alliance bitches!

Actually Aragonese foreign policy is kinda more complicated than that.

They're also a Spanish ally, sorta.

[Aden Protectorate]

Long live the Anglo-Aragonese-Venetian (god that's a mouthful) Triple Alliance bitches!

Actually Aragonese foreign policy is kinda more complicated than that.

They're also a Spanish ally, sorta.

Awwwh okay. They can into friends 2.

[Rephesus]

Long live the Anglo-Aragonese-Venetian (god that's a mouthful) Triple Alliance bitches!

Anglois* Anglo implies just the English part...

Anyway,
It's not that simple.

[Mishmahig]

Venice is here!

Gib Croatia or be curbstomped pleb.

Sounds like, if Venice intervenes with Milan, the Balkans need to intervene in Venice.

Care for an alliance?

[Aden Protectorate]

Long live the Anglo-Aragonese-Venetian (god that's a mouthful) Triple Alliance bitches!

Anglois* Anglo implies just the English part...

Anyway,
It's not that simple.

I do realize that their is a complex and simply byzantine system of alliances going on in this world, this is just fanciful speculation, if it where that simple.

[Caltarania]

Actually Aragonese foreign policy is kinda more complicated than that.

They're also a Spanish ally, sorta.

Awwwh okay. They can into friends 2.

Unlikely.

We like utterly hate the Dual Kingdom. They're literally our main rival and we fight for influence over Aragon.