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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:35 pm

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Pandeeria wrote:Hopefully you having access to the Mediterranean will make trade between us easier.

If everything goes right with my conquest of Yugoslavia, I will. But it won't. As it will be so close to Italy, the EU will doubtless declare war.


Oh, well I would definitely like Russia as a trading partner.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Jordslag » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:37 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Jordslag wrote:If everything goes right with my conquest of Yugoslavia, I will. But it won't. As it will be so close to Italy, the EU will doubtless declare war.


Oh, well I would definitely like Russia as a trading partner.

Then you would have to fight the Euros by yourself. I ain't fighting them.

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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:38 pm

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Pandeeria wrote:
Oh, well I would definitely like Russia as a trading partner.

Then you would have to fight the Euros by yourself. I ain't fighting them.


I'm not going to fight the EU. We're allies.

Also, how difficult would it be for me to take Chad and Ethiopia?
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Aelarus » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:41 pm

I mention peaceful annexation and I get friendship offers from two nations who've been going on conquests in Africa and Asia. What? :eyebrow:
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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:42 pm

Aelarus wrote:I mention peaceful annexation and I get friendship offers from two nations who've been going on conquests in Africa and Asia. What? :eyebrow:


I haven't been conquering Africa. I'm unifying it.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Kelmet » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:44 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Aelarus wrote:I mention peaceful annexation and I get friendship offers from two nations who've been going on conquests in Africa and Asia. What? :eyebrow:


I haven't been conquering Africa. I'm unifying it.

No your definitely conquering
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Postby Aelarus » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:46 pm

Pandeeria wrote:I haven't been conquering Africa. I'm unifying it.
Through military force. The reason why I'm still marginally okay with it is most of the governments you're running over are horrendously corrupt (even worse than the one you replaced originally) and broke.

I'm still wondering when you'll realize that even an oil giant can't continually fund all these invasions. Especially since almost all of your big customers are disconnecting from you.
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Postby Benian Republic » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:47 pm

How hard would it be to invade iraq
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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:47 pm

Aelarus wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:I haven't been conquering Africa. I'm unifying it.
Through military force. The reason why I'm still marginally play with it is most of the governments you're running over are horrendously corrupt (even worse than the one you replaced originally) and broke.

I'm still wondering when you'll realize that even an oil giant can't continually fund all these invasions. Especially since almost all of your big customers are disconnecting from you.


I thought we were allies. :(

Oh well, I soon want to start cutting back on the invasions.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:48 pm

Benian Republic wrote:How hard would it be to invade iraq

Not as hard as Iran, but still moderately hard.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Benian Republic » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:49 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Benian Republic wrote:How hard would it be to invade iraq

Not as hard as Iran, but still moderately hard.

I mean iran
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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:50 pm

Benian Republic wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:Not as hard as Iran, but still moderately hard.

I mean iran


Oh, Iran will be pretty damn brutal. Especially for Chinese soldiers, considering they're used to more urban, standard climates while Iran is an arid nation. I'm guessing if you concentrate mostly all your forces on Iran, you'll take it.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Jordslag » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:51 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Jordslag wrote:Then you would have to fight the Euros by yourself. I ain't fighting them.


I'm not going to fight the EU. We're allies.

Also, how difficult would it be for me to take Chad and Ethiopia?

Very hard. They are actually Functioning African states, and have big armies.

Also, can I create an NPC nation?

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Postby Benian Republic » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:51 pm

Would it be smart to carpet bomb then send in paratroopers then the armored then the regulars
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Postby Jordslag » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:52 pm

Benian Republic wrote:Would it be smart to carpet bomb then send in paratroopers then the armored then the regulars

That would actually be stupid. Carpet Bombing is avoided for a reason. It produces tons of Avoidable Civilian Casualties, an would just convince yet MORE people that you are the greater evil and to fight against you.

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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:53 pm

Benian Republic wrote:Would it be smart to carpet bomb then send in paratroopers then the armored then the regulars


Carpet Bombing would be relatively effective, though there would be major civilian causalities.

You really don't want to piss of the majority of the population. It doesn't matter how powerful you are, if you make everyone mad, then you'll simply be overwhelmed.

So, I would stay to more conventional types of fire support and bombings.
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Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Aelarus » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:55 pm

Pandeeria wrote:I thought we were allies. :(

Oh well, I soon want to start cutting back on the invasions.
We are. It doesn't mean in all that happy with your military invasions.



Pandeeria wrote:Oh, Iran will be pretty damn brutal. Especially for Chinese soldiers, considering they're used to more urban, standard climates while Iran is an arid nation. I'm guessing if you concentrate mostly all your forces on Iran, you'll take it.
Haha...no. West China is practically identical to Iran in environment.



Benian Republic wrote:Would it be smart to carpet bomb then send in paratroopers then the armored then the regulars
Carpet bombing is expensive and not as good as PGMs but you need a lot of thermal scans to do precision strikes.

Any conventional armed force will find it a total pain to conquer Iran due to mountains and a radical enemy.
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Postby Benian Republic » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:57 pm

Aelarus wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:I thought we were allies. :(

Oh well, I soon want to start cutting back on the invasions.
We are. It doesn't mean in all that happy with your military invasions.



Pandeeria wrote:Oh, Iran will be pretty damn brutal. Especially for Chinese soldiers, considering they're used to more urban, standard climates while Iran is an arid nation. I'm guessing if you concentrate mostly all your forces on Iran, you'll take it.
Haha...no. West China is practically identical to Iran in environment.



Benian Republic wrote:Would it be smart to carpet bomb then send in paratroopers then the armored then the regulars
Carpet bombing is expensive and not as good as PGMs but you need a lot of thermal scans to do precision strikes.

Any conventional armed force will find it a total pain to conquer Iran due to mountains and a radical enemy.

Ok what strategy do you suggests I use then
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Postby Jordslag » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:08 pm

Benian Republic wrote:
Aelarus wrote:We are. It doesn't mean in all that happy with your military invasions.



Haha...no. West China is practically identical to Iran in environment.



Carpet bombing is expensive and not as good as PGMs but you need a lot of thermal scans to do precision strikes.

Any conventional armed force will find it a total pain to conquer Iran due to mountains and a radical enemy.

Ok what strategy do you suggests I use then

The strategy I would use?

Stay out of the bloody goddamn civil war there.

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Postby Aelarus » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:09 pm

Benian Republic wrote:Ok what strategy do you suggests I use then
Well see, there's no real good option in this unless you don't actually invade in the first place. Mountain fighting favors a weaker force due to cut sight lines and difficulty in providing a complete ADN and even using CAS effectively.

Iran is one of those countries that likes to keep power located high up. This means capturing officers won't do much since half of them don't even know what will be going on. This means that removing the seat of power would actually benefit you greatly but like what happened with the US in the past, Iran would probably be run over with terrorism and be in a really shit condition and result in the populace demanding you withdraw troops and then electing a democrat. ;)

Seriously though, if you really want to, then conduct a full scale operation straight to Tehran and just suck up the inevitable casualties. Ensure your supply line isn't getting raped and then go through the long and inevitable rebuilding process.
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Postby Benian Republic » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:17 pm

Aelarus wrote:
Benian Republic wrote:Ok what strategy do you suggests I use then
Well see, there's no real good option in this unless you don't actually invade in the first place. Mountain fighting favors a weaker force due to cut sight lines and difficulty in providing a complete ADN and even using CAS effectively.

Iran is one of those countries that likes to keep power located high up. This means capturing officers won't do much since half of them don't even know what will be going on. This means that removing the seat of power would actually benefit you greatly but like what happened with the US in the past, Iran would probably be run over with terrorism and be in a really shit condition and result in the populace demanding you withdraw troops and then electing a democrat. ;)

Seriously though, if you really want to, then conduct a full scale operation straight to Tehran and just suck up the inevitable casualties. Ensure your supply line isn't getting raped and then go through the long and inevitable rebuilding process.

I wonder if the US would help me
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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:22 pm

How long should I wait for all my annexed territories to become centralized and functioning again?
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Benian Republic » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:22 pm

I'd probably only lose like 1,000 men right
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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:23 pm

Benian Republic wrote:I'd probably only lose like 1,000 men right


You'd lose a lot more then that.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Aelarus » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:26 pm

Benian Republic wrote:I wonder if the US would help me
Well, that depends. It's either a hell no or a simple no.



Pandeeria wrote:How long should I wait for all my annexed territories to become centralized and functioning again?
Depends, since several weren't really stable before you showed up its safe to say that a few are going to be a really long damn time.



Benian Republic wrote:I'd probably only lose like 1,000 men right
I don't know. The Chinese military doesn't release enough information to let me give a reasonable guess. I've never actually seen a T-99 get shot at or them conduct a mountain operation.
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