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Cainesland
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Postby Cainesland » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:55 pm

Northern Arcadian Empire wrote:Are you playing as a country also?


No

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Northern Arcadian Empire
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Postby Northern Arcadian Empire » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:58 pm

Oh, interesting........

Scot I claimed Kuwait a few pages back on IC and I was wounding if you add that to my claim

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Postby Scotatrova » Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:02 pm

NOTE: Me and Mes have declared the Peaceful Territories as the new map editor. So all of you that have new claims TG Peaceful Territories please
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Postby Northern Arcadian Empire » Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:58 pm

Scotatrova wrote:NOTE: Me and Mes have declared the Peaceful Territories as the new map editor. So all of you that have new claims TG Peaceful Territories please


Ok thanks!

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The Peaceful Territories
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Postby The Peaceful Territories » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:15 pm

Cainesland wrote:
Northern Arcadian Empire wrote:Are you playing as a country also?


No


Australia's free, you can have that.

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Postby Mesrane » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:16 pm

The Peaceful Territories wrote:
Cainesland wrote:
No


Australia's free, you can have that.

He's a ship with 100 Canadians on it though.
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Postby The Peaceful Territories » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:41 pm

Mesrane wrote:
The Peaceful Territories wrote:
Australia's free, you can have that.

He's a ship with 100 Canadians on it though.


Hmm... maybe he can join in with the Canadian navy, or be a privateer for some nations so he has something to do. Maybe he can claim the Canary Islands as a base, who knows? Realistically, this ship would have just joined in with Canada a long time ago. If Morrow Den does not want to play anymore, we could switch ownership over to this new guy.

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Postby Mesrane » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:43 pm

The Peaceful Territories wrote:
Mesrane wrote:He's a ship with 100 Canadians on it though.


Hmm... maybe he can join in with the Canadian navy, or be a privateer for some nations so he has something to do. Maybe he can claim the Canary Islands as a base, who knows? Realistically, this ship would have just joined in with Canada a long time ago. If Morrow Den does not want to play anymore, we could switch ownership over to this new guy.

Morrow isn't very active, but I'm not sure Cainsland would want to play as Canada. Being a privateer or something is a good idea. Maybe the crew did something bad to piss off Canada, so they went rogue?
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The New American commonwealth
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Postby The New American commonwealth » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:51 pm

Mesrane wrote:
The Peaceful Territories wrote:
Hmm... maybe he can join in with the Canadian navy, or be a privateer for some nations so he has something to do. Maybe he can claim the Canary Islands as a base, who knows? Realistically, this ship would have just joined in with Canada a long time ago. If Morrow Den does not want to play anymore, we could switch ownership over to this new guy.

Morrow isn't very active, but I'm not sure Cainsland would want to play as Canada. Being a privateer or something is a good idea. Maybe the crew did something bad to piss off Canada, so they went rogue?

well, I have to say something.
I told Caine about the Rp, and he wanted to be the U.S.S Helios, and I suggested the Kingdom of the Netherlands (Belgium and the Netherlands) encase he was not accepted with the Helios.
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Postby Hippie Kiwis » Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:01 pm

The New American commonwealth wrote:
Mesrane wrote:Morrow isn't very active, but I'm not sure Cainsland would want to play as Canada. Being a privateer or something is a good idea. Maybe the crew did something bad to piss off Canada, so they went rogue?

well, I have to say something.
I told Caine about the Rp, and he wanted to be the U.S.S Helios, and I suggested the Kingdom of the Netherlands (Belgium and the Netherlands) encase he was not accepted with the Helios.

That would put him in a bad position as that area is being occupied by germany.
This place is not a place of honor... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here. What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
The danger is in a particular location... it increases towards a center... the center of danger is here... of a particular size and shape, and below us.
The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours. The danger is to the body, and it can kill. The form of the danger is an emanation of energy.
The danger is unleashed only if you substantially disturb this place physically. This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.

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Postby The New American commonwealth » Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:16 pm

Hippie Kiwis wrote:
The New American commonwealth wrote:well, I have to say something.
I told Caine about the Rp, and he wanted to be the U.S.S Helios, and I suggested the Kingdom of the Netherlands (Belgium and the Netherlands) encase he was not accepted with the Helios.

That would put him in a bad position as that area is being occupied by germany.

No, I said I would give all the land to him, that's why I took it, so no one could have it besides him.
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Postby Hippie Kiwis » Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:21 pm

The New American commonwealth wrote:
Hippie Kiwis wrote:That would put him in a bad position as that area is being occupied by germany.

No, I said I would give all the land to him, that's why I took it, so no one could have it besides him.

ah, I see. I keep forgetting you're germany, you changed your flag.
This place is not a place of honor... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here. What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
The danger is in a particular location... it increases towards a center... the center of danger is here... of a particular size and shape, and below us.
The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours. The danger is to the body, and it can kill. The form of the danger is an emanation of energy.
The danger is unleashed only if you substantially disturb this place physically. This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.

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Postby The New American commonwealth » Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:27 pm

Hippie Kiwis wrote:
The New American commonwealth wrote:No, I said I would give all the land to him, that's why I took it, so no one could have it besides him.

ah, I see. I keep forgetting you're germany, you changed your flag.

yeah :P
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Postby Mesrane » Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:13 pm

The New American commonwealth wrote:
Hippie Kiwis wrote:That would put him in a bad position as that area is being occupied by germany.

No, I said I would give all the land to him, that's why I took it, so no one could have it besides him.

Well first off, The NGB owns Belgium. Secondly, I'm not sure how a Canadian auxiliary ship with a crew of 100 makes the leap to being in charge of the Netherlands.
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Postby Mesrane » Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:16 pm

Mesrane wrote:
The New American commonwealth wrote:No, I said I would give all the land to him, that's why I took it, so no one could have it besides him.

Well first off, The NGB owns Belgium. Secondly, I'm not sure how a Canadian auxiliary ship with a crew of 100 makes the leap to being in charge of the Netherlands.

Nevermind, NGB left Belgium. But my second point still stands.
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Cainesland
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Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Cainesland » Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:17 pm

No I think you misunderstood. If I wasn't accepted as the Canadian ship with a crew of 100, I could reapply as the Netherlands and have the territory he said he'd give me with it.

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Postby Mesrane » Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:24 pm

Cainesland wrote:No I think you misunderstood. If I wasn't accepted as the Canadian ship with a crew of 100, I could reapply as the Netherlands and have the territory he said he'd give me with it.

But you were accepted. If you want to forsake your ship and be the Dutch, go ahead.
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Postby Hippie Kiwis » Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:46 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Cainesland wrote:No I think you misunderstood. If I wasn't accepted as the Canadian ship with a crew of 100, I could reapply as the Netherlands and have the territory he said he'd give me with it.

But you were accepted. If you want to forsake your ship and be the Dutch, go ahead.

That wasn't what he meant. You missed the beginning of the conversation. If being a single ship was too unorthodox in a nation RP, then he would apply as a dutch nation. He was accepted as a ship, and now we are discussing those plans in reflection.
This place is not a place of honor... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here. What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
The danger is in a particular location... it increases towards a center... the center of danger is here... of a particular size and shape, and below us.
The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours. The danger is to the body, and it can kill. The form of the danger is an emanation of energy.
The danger is unleashed only if you substantially disturb this place physically. This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.

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Postby Mesrane » Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:53 pm

Hippie Kiwis wrote:
Mesrane wrote:But you were accepted. If you want to forsake your ship and be the Dutch, go ahead.

That wasn't what he meant. You missed the beginning of the conversation. If being a single ship was too unorthodox in a nation RP, then he would apply as a dutch nation. He was accepted as a ship, and now we are discussing those plans in reflection.

No, I understand that after his most recent post. I'm saying it's not too unorthodox, and that if he wants he can continue as the ship. If he wants to play as the Dutch instead, that's fine too.
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Postby Hippie Kiwis » Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:55 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Hippie Kiwis wrote:That wasn't what he meant. You missed the beginning of the conversation. If being a single ship was too unorthodox in a nation RP, then he would apply as a dutch nation. He was accepted as a ship, and now we are discussing those plans in reflection.

No, I understand that after his most recent post. I'm saying it's not too unorthodox, and that if he wants he can continue as the ship. If he wants to play as the Dutch instead, that's fine too.

oh, well, we both misunderstood each other.
This place is not a place of honor... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here. What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
The danger is in a particular location... it increases towards a center... the center of danger is here... of a particular size and shape, and below us.
The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours. The danger is to the body, and it can kill. The form of the danger is an emanation of energy.
The danger is unleashed only if you substantially disturb this place physically. This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.

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Postby The Peaceful Territories » Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:42 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Mesrane wrote:Well first off, The NGB owns Belgium. Secondly, I'm not sure how a Canadian auxiliary ship with a crew of 100 makes the leap to being in charge of the Netherlands.

Nevermind, NGB left Belgium. But my second point still stands.


Caine could play as both Helios and Netherlands, since I don't see Netherlands doing very much since there is no room to expand.

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Postby Hippie Kiwis » Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:43 pm

The Peaceful Territories wrote:
Mesrane wrote:Nevermind, NGB left Belgium. But my second point still stands.


Caine could play as both Helios and Netherlands, since I don't see Netherlands doing very much since there is no room to expand.

There are many things you can do besides expansion. Also you can look at what the real netherlands did. colonies.
This place is not a place of honor... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here. What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
The danger is in a particular location... it increases towards a center... the center of danger is here... of a particular size and shape, and below us.
The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours. The danger is to the body, and it can kill. The form of the danger is an emanation of energy.
The danger is unleashed only if you substantially disturb this place physically. This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.

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Postby The Peaceful Territories » Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:52 pm

Hippie Kiwis wrote:
The Peaceful Territories wrote:
Caine could play as both Helios and Netherlands, since I don't see Netherlands doing very much since there is no room to expand.

There are many things you can do besides expansion. Also you can look at what the real netherlands did. colonies.


I guess so, but the real Netherlands actually had money and large ships to carry passengers and supplies. Post-infection Netherlands would be broke, without fuel, and without large amounts of people.

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Postby Hippie Kiwis » Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:53 pm

The Peaceful Territories wrote:
Hippie Kiwis wrote:There are many things you can do besides expansion. Also you can look at what the real netherlands did. colonies.


I guess so, but the real Netherlands actually had money and large ships to carry passengers and supplies. Post-infection Netherlands would be broke, without fuel, and without large amounts of people.

true, but sailing ships would be cheaper.
This place is not a place of honor... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here. What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
The danger is in a particular location... it increases towards a center... the center of danger is here... of a particular size and shape, and below us.
The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours. The danger is to the body, and it can kill. The form of the danger is an emanation of energy.
The danger is unleashed only if you substantially disturb this place physically. This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.

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Postby The Peaceful Territories » Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:01 am

Hippie Kiwis wrote:
The Peaceful Territories wrote:
I guess so, but the real Netherlands actually had money and large ships to carry passengers and supplies. Post-infection Netherlands would be broke, without fuel, and without large amounts of people.

true, but sailing ships would be cheaper.


Sailing ships are unreliable. There is a higher chance of crashing into rocks, and the wind is not always constant.

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