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Romneyerica
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Postby Romneyerica » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:06 pm

Trying to figure out where to have my cult/group originate. Any takers?

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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:17 pm

Romneyerica wrote:Trying to figure out where to have my cult/group originate. Any takers?

What kind of cult/group is it?

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Postby Elam-Kurdistan » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:26 pm

Image

I have West Texas, South Texas, South east Texas, you have the rest
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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:32 pm

Elam-Kurdistan wrote:(Image)

I have West Texas, South Texas, South east Texas, you have the rest

But Southeast Texas is where a lot of Americans are and it includes Houston and Galveston
I can't give up that part
The Texans get what the maps has given them and in exchange they give up all claims to the rest of Mexico, agree to pay reparations, and agree to never step foot in Mexico again unless expressly allowed to do so by the government?
So it ends up looking like this: http://s3.postimg.org/fuehr8yir/propostion.png
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Postby Romneyerica » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:42 pm

Bering wrote:
Romneyerica wrote:Trying to figure out where to have my cult/group originate. Any takers?

What kind of cult/group is it?


I was thinking spiritual prolly violent run of the mill type. But it would depend on the area that it's mainly based.

Edit: they would prolly want their own land to operate from too.
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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:43 pm

Romneyerica wrote:
Bering wrote:What kind of cult/group is it?


I was thinking spiritual prolly violent run of the mill type. But it would depend on the area that it's mainly based.

I'm interested, but not sure how it would affect me.
How would it affect me?

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Postby Romneyerica » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:50 pm

Bering wrote:
Romneyerica wrote:
I was thinking spiritual prolly violent run of the mill type. But it would depend on the area that it's mainly based.

I'm interested, but not sure how it would affect me.
How would it affect me?


If you're the US as it says in op then we could plead or attack the US to give them they're own stretch of land, you pay us to attack an neighboring or domestic enemy, something along those lines. Or other shenanigans to be Thot of later.

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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:53 pm

Romneyerica wrote:
Bering wrote:I'm interested, but not sure how it would affect me.
How would it affect me?


If you're the US as it says in op then we could plead or attack the US to give them they're own stretch of land, you pay us to attack an neighboring or domestic enemy, something along those lines. Or other shenanigans to be Thot of later.

Would this stretch of land be subservient to the United States Federal government? Similar to a state or would it be its own land?

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Postby Elam-Kurdistan » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:06 pm

Bering wrote:
Elam-Kurdistan wrote:(Image)

I have West Texas, South Texas, South east Texas, you have the rest

But Southeast Texas is where a lot of Americans are and it includes Houston and Galveston
I can't give up that part
The Texans get what the maps has given them and in exchange they give up all claims to the rest of Mexico, agree to pay reparations, and agree to never step foot in Mexico again unless expressly allowed to do so by the government?
So it ends up looking like this: http://s3.postimg.org/fuehr8yir/propostion.png


agreed, send my government that message on the IC, I will withdraw troops from Texas and Oklahoma

Will the US give up all claims to Mexico as well?
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Postby Romneyerica » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:12 pm

Bering wrote:
Romneyerica wrote:
If you're the US as it says in op then we could plead or attack the US to give them they're own stretch of land, you pay us to attack an neighboring or domestic enemy, something along those lines. Or other shenanigans to be Thot of later.

Would this stretch of land be subservient to the United States Federal government? Similar to a state or would it be its own land?


Hmm I was thinking a independent thing but maybe we could negotiate?

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Postby Elam-Kurdistan » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:20 pm

Pacificana Islands wrote:Perhaps I could be the Mormons and alter the course of their history a bit?


I own Utah
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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:28 pm

Elam-Kurdistan wrote:
Bering wrote:But Southeast Texas is where a lot of Americans are and it includes Houston and Galveston
I can't give up that part
The Texans get what the maps has given them and in exchange they give up all claims to the rest of Mexico, agree to pay reparations, and agree to never step foot in Mexico again unless expressly allowed to do so by the government?
So it ends up looking like this: http://s3.postimg.org/fuehr8yir/propostion.png


agreed, send my government that message on the IC, I will withdraw troops from Texas and Oklahoma

Great.
The wording should be something like:
The Federal Republic of Mexico (or any successor government) will recognize the Republic of Texas with the following borders (borders on map) In exchange the republic of Texas (or its successor government) will rescind any claims they have on Mexican territory, agree to pay reparation to Mexico (sum to be agreed upon) and any citizens of the Texan Republic will not set foot in Mexico without permission by both the Mexican and Texan governments. Any violators will be punished at the discretion of the Mexican legal system or (if entry was denied by the Texan government) then at discretion of the Texan legal system.
Are these terms acceptable? Successor government is to prevent rules lawyering (we are now the Texan Empire and thus are exempted from the above!) from happening. We can agree to a price in a conference. And the last one is in case of outlaws and such
I will clean it up and send it to you tomorrow, I need to get some sleep

Romneyerica wrote:
Bering wrote:Would this stretch of land be subservient to the United States Federal government? Similar to a state or would it be its own land?


Hmm I was thinking a independent thing but maybe we could negotiate?

I am willing to negotiate, but could we do it tomorrow it is late here

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Postby Romneyerica » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:38 pm

@bering yeah of course it's late here too I'm on my phone as well lol.

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Postby Alleniana » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:42 pm

Elam-Kurdistan wrote:(Image)

I have West Texas, South Texas, South east Texas, you have the rest

It's actually called the panhandle? :P

Anyway, does France feel like allying me? Prussia, Spain, Portugal and Sweden work too, but I basically need a European to keep Russia & Britain off my back (and help me modernise), in return for raw resources, trade, etc.

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Hippie Kiwis
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Postby Hippie Kiwis » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:45 pm

Can russia be reserved?
This place is not a place of honor... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here. What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
The danger is in a particular location... it increases towards a center... the center of danger is here... of a particular size and shape, and below us.
The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours. The danger is to the body, and it can kill. The form of the danger is an emanation of energy.
The danger is unleashed only if you substantially disturb this place physically. This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.

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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:48 pm

Romneyerica wrote:@bering yeah of course it's late here too I'm on my phone as well lol.

Great

Alleniana wrote:
Elam-Kurdistan wrote:(Image)

I have West Texas, South Texas, South east Texas, you have the rest

It's actually called the panhandle? :P

Anyway, does France feel like allying me? Prussia, Spain, Portugal and Sweden work too, but I basically need a European to keep Russia & Britain off my back (and help me modernise), in return for raw resources, trade, etc.

France and Spain are pretty inactive
Not sure on Portugal
Prussia is allied with Britain
Not sure on Sweden he seems more interested in Denmark

Hippie Kiwis wrote:Can russia be reserved?

It has a player
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Kranstentistan
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Postby Kranstentistan » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:49 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Elam-Kurdistan wrote:(Image)

I have West Texas, South Texas, South east Texas, you have the rest

It's actually called the panhandle? :P

Anyway, does France feel like allying me? Prussia, Spain, Portugal and Sweden work too, but I basically need a European to keep Russia & Britain off my back (and help me modernise), in return for raw resources, trade, etc.

You know, me and Japan are going to form an alliance soon. Wanna join?

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Postby Hippie Kiwis » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:50 pm

Hippie Kiwis wrote:Can russia be reserved?

What about the ottomans?
This place is not a place of honor... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here. What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
The danger is in a particular location... it increases towards a center... the center of danger is here... of a particular size and shape, and below us.
The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours. The danger is to the body, and it can kill. The form of the danger is an emanation of energy.
The danger is unleashed only if you substantially disturb this place physically. This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.

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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:51 pm

Hippie Kiwis wrote:
Hippie Kiwis wrote:Can russia be reserved?

What about the ottomans?

Free, but double check the OP roster to be sure.
If it isn't on there then you should be good

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Postby Kranstentistan » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:51 pm

Bering wrote:
Hippie Kiwis wrote:What about the ottomans?

Free, but double check the OP roster to be sure.
If it isn't on there then you should be good

Yeah it's free.

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Postby Elam-Kurdistan » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:52 pm

Bering wrote:
Elam-Kurdistan wrote:
agreed, send my government that message on the IC, I will withdraw troops from Texas and Oklahoma

Great.
The wording should be something like:
The Federal Republic of Mexico (or any successor government) will recognize the Republic of Texas with the following borders (borders on map) In exchange the republic of Texas (or its successor government) will rescind any claims they have on Mexican territory, agree to pay reparation to Mexico (sum to be agreed upon) and any citizens of the Texan Republic will not set foot in Mexico without permission by both the Mexican and Texan governments. Any violators will be punished at the discretion of the Mexican legal system or (if entry was denied by the Texan government) then at discretion of the Texan legal system.
Are these terms acceptable? Successor government is to prevent rules lawyering (we are now the Texan Empire and thus are exempted from the above!) from happening. We can agree to a price in a conference. And the last one is in case of outlaws and such
I will clean it up and send it to you tomorrow, I need to get some sleep

Romneyerica wrote:
Hmm I was thinking a independent thing but maybe we could negotiate?

I am willing to negotiate, but could we do it tomorrow it is late here


Very Good, I agree
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The Crimes of America: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 8437,d.d2s

I don't care if I fall as long as someone else picks up my gun and keeps on shooting.
Che Guevara

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Hippie Kiwis
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Postby Hippie Kiwis » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:52 pm

Bering wrote:
Hippie Kiwis wrote:What about the ottomans?

Free, but double check the OP roster to be sure.
If it isn't on there then you should be good

I looked at it and I din't see russia or the ottomans.
This place is not a place of honor... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here. What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
The danger is in a particular location... it increases towards a center... the center of danger is here... of a particular size and shape, and below us.
The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours. The danger is to the body, and it can kill. The form of the danger is an emanation of energy.
The danger is unleashed only if you substantially disturb this place physically. This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.

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Hippie Kiwis
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Postby Hippie Kiwis » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:52 pm

I see russia now, sorry.
This place is not a place of honor... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here. What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
The danger is in a particular location... it increases towards a center... the center of danger is here... of a particular size and shape, and below us.
The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours. The danger is to the body, and it can kill. The form of the danger is an emanation of energy.
The danger is unleashed only if you substantially disturb this place physically. This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.

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Elam-Kurdistan
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Postby Elam-Kurdistan » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:53 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Elam-Kurdistan wrote:(Image)

I have West Texas, South Texas, South east Texas, you have the rest

It's actually called the panhandle? :P

Anyway, does France feel like allying me? Prussia, Spain, Portugal and Sweden work too, but I basically need a European to keep Russia & Britain off my back (and help me modernise), in return for raw resources, trade, etc.


The Netherlands don't like the UK, they will help (I am them until tomorrow when the real one comes back)
R.I.P Tuva SSR, Unjustly deleted on 30/8/2014
The Crimes of America: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 8437,d.d2s

I don't care if I fall as long as someone else picks up my gun and keeps on shooting.
Che Guevara

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Bering
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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:54 pm

Elam-Kurdistan wrote:
Bering wrote:Great.
The wording should be something like:
The Federal Republic of Mexico (or any successor government) will recognize the Republic of Texas with the following borders (borders on map) In exchange the republic of Texas (or its successor government) will rescind any claims they have on Mexican territory, agree to pay reparation to Mexico (sum to be agreed upon) and any citizens of the Texan Republic will not set foot in Mexico without permission by both the Mexican and Texan governments. Any violators will be punished at the discretion of the Mexican legal system or (if entry was denied by the Texan government) then at discretion of the Texan legal system.
Are these terms acceptable? Successor government is to prevent rules lawyering (we are now the Texan Empire and thus are exempted from the above!) from happening. We can agree to a price in a conference. And the last one is in case of outlaws and such
I will clean it up and send it to you tomorrow, I need to get some sleep


I am willing to negotiate, but could we do it tomorrow it is late here


Very Good, I agree

Wonderful, glad we could settle this peacefully. Well peacefully between us. Now if only all my problems could be solved by marching an Army into someone's territory

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