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Bering
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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:47 pm

Segmentia wrote:Any nations still open?

Several, check the roster in the OP for them
Any nations not on the list should be open

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Elam-Kurdistan
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Postby Elam-Kurdistan » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:53 pm

Bering wrote:
Elam-Kurdistan wrote:
Not all Texans rose up and killed most of them, including their leaders

Yes, their may be more (illegal) Americans but still, what about the Mexicans, how about I deport all the (illegal) Americans

I am not sure what the first sentence says exactly. But you just killed a good number of them. You couldn't have killed all of them

Well I would assume that most of the ones that rose up against you are the illegal ones. Besides it would be hard to pick them apart from the legal ones. Especially with records as they are. One illegal man could simply claim to be another who died in the fighting and the rest of the Americans would of course back him up on that claim. Besides attempting to deport so many of them would just spark another war or spark the current one to continue.
As for the Mexicans. I would assume that Texas would have to grant them equal rights under their constitution for the referendum to take place and pay for any of them that want to return to Mexico (and a fair price for any land they own in Texas should they decide to leave so that they can start somewhere else)


I meant what you said, I killed a good number of them (including leadership)

no, all of them are illegal unless they got permission from the Mexican government, we will check our records. As for sparking another war, Turkey and Greece did it, with a lot of hardship but no outright war. As for the Mexican's seeing as it was their land in the first place and their country shouldn't they get first say? How about partition?
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Bering
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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:58 pm

Elam-Kurdistan wrote:
Bering wrote:I am not sure what the first sentence says exactly. But you just killed a good number of them. You couldn't have killed all of them

Well I would assume that most of the ones that rose up against you are the illegal ones. Besides it would be hard to pick them apart from the legal ones. Especially with records as they are. One illegal man could simply claim to be another who died in the fighting and the rest of the Americans would of course back him up on that claim. Besides attempting to deport so many of them would just spark another war or spark the current one to continue.
As for the Mexicans. I would assume that Texas would have to grant them equal rights under their constitution for the referendum to take place and pay for any of them that want to return to Mexico (and a fair price for any land they own in Texas should they decide to leave so that they can start somewhere else)


I meant what you said, I killed a good number of them (including leadership)

no, all of them are illegal unless they got permission from the Mexican government, we will check our records. As for sparking another war, Turkey and Greece did it, with a lot of hardship but no outright war. As for the Mexican's seeing as it was their land in the first place and their country shouldn't they get first say? How about partition?

What do you have in mind for a partition?

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Postby New Romanis » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:59 pm

Bering, declare war on Mexico to liberate Texas.
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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:01 pm

New Romanis wrote:Bering, declare war on Mexico to liberate Texas.

Already did it

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Postby New Romanis » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:02 pm

Bering wrote:
New Romanis wrote:Bering, declare war on Mexico to liberate Texas.

Already did it

You did? I got to read the IC again...
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Bering
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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:04 pm

New Romanis wrote:
Bering wrote:Already did it

You did? I got to read the IC again...

Well I am technically assisting the Texan Republic after they requested my aid.

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Postby New Romanis » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:05 pm

Bering wrote:
New Romanis wrote:You did? I got to read the IC again...

Well I am technically assisting the Texan Republic after they requested my aid.

I could also send an in vision force to Mexico with my newly built navy. Thanks Netherlands!
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Bering
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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:07 pm

New Romanis wrote:
Bering wrote:Well I am technically assisting the Texan Republic after they requested my aid.

I could also send an in vision force to Mexico with my newly built navy. Thanks Netherlands!

...Alright. See you there I guess
Though we are trying to settle this peacefully first

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Kranstentistan
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Postby Kranstentistan » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:49 pm

I'll begin writing my fist post. Qing Dynasty, shitty emperors, Past Tech, this is all new to me. Let's hope I pull it off.

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Postby Elam-Kurdistan » Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:35 pm

Bering wrote:
Elam-Kurdistan wrote:
I meant what you said, I killed a good number of them (including leadership)

no, all of them are illegal unless they got permission from the Mexican government, we will check our records. As for sparking another war, Turkey and Greece did it, with a lot of hardship but no outright war. As for the Mexican's seeing as it was their land in the first place and their country shouldn't they get first say? How about partition?

What do you have in mind for a partition?


All Red Areas, American Texas (where most of the rebels are)

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New Romanis wrote:
Bering wrote:Well I am technically assisting the Texan Republic after they requested my aid.

I could also send an in vision force to Mexico with my newly built navy. Thanks Netherlands!


As for Prussia sending a fleet, relations went frosty before we could build a big fleet, you could just ferry troops but you would be very vulnerable to attack from others
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Bering
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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:46 pm

Elam-Kurdistan wrote:
Bering wrote:What do you have in mind for a partition?


All Red Areas, American Texas (where most of the rebels are)

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New Romanis wrote:I could also send an in vision force to Mexico with my newly built navy. Thanks Netherlands!


As for Prussia sending a fleet, relations went frosty before we could build a big fleet, you could just ferry troops but you would be very vulnerable to attack from others

Not enough. I am thinking a great deal more than that.
The question I want to know, is where are most of the Mexicans in Texas?
As stated before there weren't that many, where were they mostly located?

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Postby New Romanis » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:26 pm

Elam-Kurdistan wrote:
Bering wrote:What do you have in mind for a partition?


All Red Areas, American Texas (where most of the rebels are)

Image Image

New Romanis wrote:I could also send an in vision force to Mexico with my newly built navy. Thanks Netherlands!


As for Prussia sending a fleet, relations went frosty before we could build a big fleet, you could just ferry troops but you would be very vulnerable to attack from others

Ah, but you seem to forget that a certain alliance with a certain player could also help my navy get pretty big. The alliance with Britain, that should help me.
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Postby Imperium Nova » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:28 pm

Kranstentistan wrote:I'll begin writing my fist post. Qing Dynasty, shitty emperors, Past Tech, this is all new to me. Let's hope I pull it off.

The Japanese expedition that is now visiting the Dutch in Jakarta will sail north afterwards and visist the Lanfang Republic and then set course for China to make a visit there.

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Postby Mailam » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:29 pm

Well, I must inform you all that I will be busy with real life stuff until the middle of next week, so I'm afraid my activities with regards to this RP will be limited to checking new apps and updating the roster. Hopefully, I will be able to return to a normal level of activity by middle of next week. Thanks for understanding. :)
Imperium Nova wrote:
Kranstentistan wrote:I'll begin writing my fist post. Qing Dynasty, shitty emperors, Past Tech, this is all new to me. Let's hope I pull it off.

The Japanese expedition that is now visiting the Dutch in Jakarta will sail north afterwards and visist the Lanfang Republic and then set course for China to make a visit there.

I'm afraid you will have to skip Lanfang, since I will be busy this week and part of next week. Good luck on your journeys!

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Postby Imperium Nova » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:37 pm

Mailam wrote:Well, I must inform you all that I will be busy with real life stuff until the middle of next week, so I'm afraid my activities with regards to this RP will be limited to checking new apps and updating the roster. Hopefully, I will be able to return to a normal level of activity by middle of next week. Thanks for understanding. :)
Imperium Nova wrote:The Japanese expedition that is now visiting the Dutch in Jakarta will sail north afterwards and visist the Lanfang Republic and then set course for China to make a visit there.

I'm afraid you will have to skip Lanfang, since I will be busy this week and part of next week. Good luck on your journeys!

Awh... :( Well, we'll see if the Red Seal Project goes well we will probably send another boat to Lanfang sometime in the future.

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Kranstentistan
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Postby Kranstentistan » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:23 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Kranstentistan wrote:I'll begin writing my fist post. Qing Dynasty, shitty emperors, Past Tech, this is all new to me. Let's hope I pull it off.

The Japanese expedition that is now visiting the Dutch in Jakarta will sail north afterwards and visist the Lanfang Republic and then set course for China to make a visit there.

The Chinese government is going to send the Japanese government a telegram talking about future cooperation. Maybe the expedition fleet can visit China to solidify the concept?


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Postby Kranstentistan » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:19 pm

Alleniana wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=21317214#p21317214
edited app
yaaay

Hey, I remember you from the 2014 modern world RP, good seeing you in another RP again.

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Postby Mailam » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:19 pm

Alleniana wrote:Oh! Sorry! :oops:
Forgot. But here I am.

NS Name: Alleniana
Nation Name: Sublime State of Iran
Homeland Population: <4 million
Imperial Population: No colonies, protectorates, etc.
Military Size: ~50,000?
Summary of Nation:
Iran has been among the victors in the game of modernisation that has happened across Asia and much of the rest of the world. It has managed to mostly avoid being humiliated and partitioned, is still at least somewhat relevant, and maintains independence with potential.

The empire, an absolute monarchy, is currently in a period wherein it is finishing modernisation and westernisation; it has come a long way, and is not far behind. This, however, in no way means that it is safe. Instability could still easily be possible, and truly, it is often in the later stages, when the culture, mindset and most grassroot traditions change that modernisation can be thrown off track.

Iran is united, strong, and though sitting wedged between many dangerous powers, it does have a history of standing strong and uncowed, in face of opposition; whether Rome, the Caliphates, or even Russia (I mean, they haven't annexed us! :P ) With a strong cultural unity and a good government, it sits in the crossroads of Asia as an empire unbroken for now.

RP's You're Currently In: Err, I frankly don't know which ones are dead and which are alive, but among them are counted History of Empires, 1640 Age of Glory, Al-Franj, Might & Magic, etc.
Reason(s) You Chose This Nation: I just really like the idea of this country, culturally unified, mostly, independent, fairly strong, stable and well on its way to modernising, and being able to play it through a period where it could become a world-class power like Japan, or fall into deathly doldrums like, say, much of South/Central/East Asia today.

Not the best app, but I hope I can make up for it.

Assuming military size is both active and reserved forces combined, accepted :)

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Frostevilla
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Postby Frostevilla » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:22 pm

I'll see if I can get an app up later.

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Kranstentistan
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Postby Kranstentistan » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:24 pm

Got my first post up. It's not the best, but I think I did okay.

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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:46 pm

Kranstentistan wrote:
Alleniana wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=21317214#p21317214
edited app
yaaay

Hey, I remember you from the 2014 modern world RP, good seeing you in another RP again.

:P I've been in quite a few RPs since then, but good to see you too.
@Mailam, yeah. I took wartime numbers from the wars with Russia as sources, so inclusive of reserves.
Finally time to post ICly!

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Pacificana Islands
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Postby Pacificana Islands » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:47 pm

Perhaps I could be the Mormons and alter the course of their history a bit?

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