The Pursuit of Victory — 1821 AH [OPEN] [OOC]

[Benian Republic]

Wait do I know you...

And why would it have been not accepted

Because your application was lacking a lot of information that is well important and your population was like four times the size of Ireland's actual population in 1821.

But I looked all the facts up on the internet

[Bujahla]

I am at odds with the following nations cause stuff in following order of priority:
-- Scandinavia -- Part of Australia
-- France -- Hawaii
-- Singapore -- Singapore
-- Dutch -- Tasmania
-- Spanish -- Philippines
-- British -- Java

Why would you want Singapore? It's independence is literally the only reason it's valuable. Capture it, and investors leave, it becomes a rebellious drain of resources, and you piss off every major trade faction.

I know, I'm joking about that one. I put it as number three on the list after I finished just to see if you would notice since I haven't seen you in a bit. Anyhow, we should be great trading partners and allies.

I am at odds with the following nations cause stuff in following order of priority:
-- Scandinavia -- Part of Australia
-- France -- Hawaii
-- Singapore -- Singapore
-- Dutch -- Tasmania
-- Spanish -- Philippines
-- British -- Java

*Sigh* I wanted to be friends.

Just because we want Hawaii secretly doesn't mean we can't be friends. I'd assume we have good trade relations anyhow.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Because your application was lacking a lot of information that is well important and your population was like four times the size of Ireland's actual population in 1821.

But I looked all the facts up on the internet

And none of it was actually right.

[Benian Republic]

For real, your not kidding with me none of it was right?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

For real, your not kidding with me none of it was right?

According to this the population of Ireland was 6,802,000 in 1821.

So no, 8 million is not correct.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

*Sigh* I wanted to be friends.

Just because we want Hawaii secretly doesn't mean we can't be friends. I'd assume we have good trade relations anyhow.

What would be the reason, though?

[Bujahla]

Just because we want Hawaii secretly doesn't mean we can't be friends. I'd assume we have good trade relations anyhow.

What would be the reason, though?

Why we would want Hawaii? Because it's a major pacific island chain and is the center of pacific trade. Also the whole Hawaiians coming from Polynesia and the quest to unite all of Polynesia and all that (Hawaii and your islands just north of NZ would be all I don't have).

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

What would be the reason, though?

Why we would want Hawaii? Because it's a major pacific island chain and is the center of pacific trade. Also the whole Hawaiians coming from Polynesia and the quest to unite all of Polynesia and all that (Hawaii and your islands just north of NZ would be all I don't have).

I meant about our relationship, it just seems to me that the logical trade partner in that area would be Singapore. But that is also good to know.

[Bujahla]

Why we would want Hawaii? Because it's a major pacific island chain and is the center of pacific trade. Also the whole Hawaiians coming from Polynesia and the quest to unite all of Polynesia and all that (Hawaii and your islands just north of NZ would be all I don't have).

I meant about our relationship, it just seems to me that the logical trade partner in that area would be Singapore. But that is also good to know.

You'd only trade with one nation?

While singapore may be a hub of trade, you shouldn't look to only trading with a single city over the gigantic-trade empire that covers most of Polynesia, NZ, and pretty much all of Australia.

[Chihuahua y Tejas]

Hello everyone c:
What's open?

[Arlye Austros]

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Nation Name:
National Symbols:

Flag of the Buenos Aires-aligned Provinces

Flag of the Federalist League

Capital City: Buenos Aires
Government Type: Republic (Anarchy)
Leader(s): Several
Population, Nation: 716.000 (based on this link.
Population, Empire: N/A
Location: http://i.imgur.com/EZosubK.png?1

Economy: Basically based on livestock and heavily dependant of agriculture. Argentina also holds control of some mines in the Andes. Buenos Aires controls the greatest income to the state, the Customs.
Infrastructure: Spanish COlonial infraestructure. Dirt Roads near the provincial capitals, no roads in between, except for major roads. The port of Buenos Aires controls the maritime entrance to the country.

Army: (Size - no more than 3% of your population in peacetime, equipment, training, budget, leadership, etc...) Troopcount: 12.600. 35 artillery pieces, muskets. Strong Cavalry base don San Martín´s Mounted Granadiers Corps.
Navy: None, scrapped to pay for the war material.

Goals: Reunification of the Country. Control of the Paraguay and Uruguay.
Imperial Ambitions: Conquest of the Patagonia, settlement in the Falklands.
History:
-1536: Foundation of Buenos Aires.
-1590: Buenos Aires is able to sustain silver exploitation in the High Perú and send it to Spain.
-1606: Indigenous attack on Buenos Aires is fend off. The fortress is expanded.
-1620-1650: Towns such as Córdoba, Santa Fé and Mar del Plata are founded.
-1680: Mendoza is passed to the Río de la Plata jurisdiction.
-1776: The Vicerroyalty of Río de la Plata is created.
-1806: First British Invasion of Buenos Aires.
-1807: Second British invasion of Buenos Aires.
-1810: Mayo revolution, self governance of Argentina.
-1813: Argentine troops capture Montevideo.
-1815: Argentina erases any trace of dependence to the Spanish Crown.
-1817: José de San Martpin crosses the Andes and liberates Chile.
-1819: The Army of the North (Fighting in Bolivia) Disperses.
-1820: Start of the Civil War between Federalists and Unitarians (Buenos Aires)
RP Sample:
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=303673
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=295701
I have read the rules: Yes
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[Chihuahua y Tejas]

Is Mexico or Chile open?

[Arlye Austros]

Is Mexico or Chile open?

I think both are. Was really tempted to play at Chile, but I believe by 1821 it is under a Constitutional Crisis and still the southern Spaniard stronghold of Chiloé exists.

[Chihuahua y Tejas]

Is Mexico or Chile open?

I think both are. Was really tempted to play at Chile, but I believe by 1821 it is under a Constitutional Crisis and still the southern Spaniard stronghold of Chiloé exists.

Hello Arlye, I'm Baja, I played Charcas in NI and you were Chile right? Anyways this is AH, Chile could be independent at this point, no?

[Arlye Austros]

I think both are. Was really tempted to play at Chile, but I believe by 1821 it is under a Constitutional Crisis and still the southern Spaniard stronghold of Chiloé exists.

Hello Arlye, I'm Baja, I played Charcas in NI and you were Chile right? Anyways this is AH, Chile could be independent at this point, no?

LOL, I suspected it was you, somehow. Yeah, Chile is independant, Chiloe was kinda like a resisting point nobody cared till General Freire saw a chance To make his name. You might want To check the end of the O'Higgins Government, as it took place around this time. This is just before the annarchy.


Then again, this is AH, so I guess no issues there. i plan To have General San Martin returning from a failed campaign in Perú and taking power in Argentina (provided OP and the Perú player agree To it).

[Chihuahua y Tejas]

Hello Arlye, I'm Baja, I played Charcas in NI and you were Chile right? Anyways this is AH, Chile could be independent at this point, no?

LOL, I suspected it was you, somehow. Yeah, Chile is independant, Chiloe was kinda like a resisting point nobody cared till General Freire saw a chance To make his name. You might want To check the end of the O'Higgins Government, as it took place around this time. This is just before the annarchy.


Then again, this is AH, so I guess no issues there. i plan To have General San Martin returning from a failed campaign in Perú and taking power in Argentina (provided OP and the Perú player agree To it).

Hm well South America seems fun this time around, but I think I will go for a pissed off French Mexican-Haitian Empire, idunno though.

[Sebtopiaris]

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Nation Name: The Dutch Republic
National Symbols:

(Image)

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Capital City: Amsterdam
Government Type: Confederal Republic
Leader(s): Statholder Wilhelm Van Brune
Population, Nation: about 4.5 million people
Population, Empire: about 32 million
Location: http://i.imgur.com/6IA9CJV.png

Economy: Quite strong, with a lot of tropical goods from the East Indies and Brazil being traded across the globe. We have a ton of trade and colonial companies.
Infrastructure: Given our dense population back in Europe, infrastructure there is very developed. In the colonies, however, usually only larger settlements are very developed, with countless little farming villages dotting our colonial landscapes.

Army: 360,000,000 people
Navy:
4 First Rate Ship of the Lines
6 Second Rate Ship of the Lines
95 Third Rate Ship of the Lines
9 Fourth Rate Ship of the Lines
73 Fifth Rate Frigates
9 Brigantines
70 Sloop-of-Wars

Goals: Become an economic power and get rich. Filthy, filthy rich, that's all we want.
Imperial Ambitions: Expand our colonies where they're already positioned, especially in the East Indies and South America.
History:

In 1643, when in OTL the governor of Dutch Brazil was called back to the Netherlands and the Portuguese revolted in the power vaccuum, this timeline diverged from OTL as far as the Dutch are concerned. You see, the governor of Dutch Brazil was made to stay in Brazil in this TL whereas the governor of Dutch Guyana was called back. As a result of this, the Dutch holdings in Brazil survived and prospered whereas Guyana was burned to the ground by angry natives. The Portuguese rebellion still happened in Brazil, but it was crushed and it gave the Dutch an excuse to slowly purchase and steal more land in Portuguese Brazil. Meanwhile in Europe, which was still gripped by the zealous hands of the thirty year's war, the governor of Guyana was made a general in the war and because of him the Dutch made massive advances into Spanish Flanders, capturing the entire Spanish holding. With a thriving prescence in South America and a growing Empire in Europe, the dutch prospered until this day.

RP Sample: Guns of our forefathers, Humanity has company (all three of them, made the original RP), EarthQuest, ect.
I have read the rules: [y/n]
429: Don't remove - for tracking purposes.

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The Lowlands have already been reserved

Perhaps you could pick another nation?

I reserved the fucking lowlands in the RP discussion group. Just because nobody payed attention does not fucking mean that my reservation is nonexistent. THE LOWLANDS IS MINE, do you hear me?
429 -the voice of reason can now be tracked. Hooray.

[Valentir]

The Lowlands have already been reserved

Perhaps you could pick another nation?

I reserved the fucking lowlands in the RP discussion group. Just because nobody payed attention does not fucking mean that my reservation is nonexistent. THE LOWLANDS IS MINE, do you hear me?
429 -the voice of reason can now be tracked. Hooray.

Reservations in the Historical RP thread were declared void and a First Come First Serve attitude adopted.

Here you go. First come, first served:

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=306621

[Sveltlana]

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Nation Name: Deutscher Bund (German Union)
National Symbols: Flag (confederate)
Anthem: lol, where's germany? (creative translation)
Capital City: Frankfurt-am-Main
Government Type: Confederation.
Leader(s): Kaiser Franz I of Sudreich, Volksmarschall Adolf Gottschalk of Bayern, Bundeskanzler Johann Weil of Hamburg-Hannover, Präsident Bernard Keil of Baden-Württemberg.
Population, Nation: um... est. 49,413,400 [source]
Population, Empire: disunified germany cannot into empire
Location: Das ganze Deutschland soll es sein!

Economy:
Infrastructure: Being a European nation, infrastructure across the Confederation is of a fairly developed level, especially with the urbanisation taking place at the end of the 18th century. Roads are common and often paved, and the states of Hamburg-Hannover and Prussia (particularly around the Ruhr) the first whisperings of steam power are audible in the mines and dockyards, although German industry is still unfortunately in it's infancy.

Army: Approx. 725,000 men serve in the collective armies of the Confederacy's member-states. The armies, although far from standardised, have developed a high level of military equipment and martial prowess, largely due to the eternal wars being waged across central Europe, which have only relatively recently been ceased within Germany itself as a result of the Confederation's existence.

Navy: The Confederacy possesses no navy of it's own, and is instead dependent on the embryonic Prussian and more developed Hannoverian navy for her naval defence. The Prussian navy consists of two ships of the line, eight frigates, and three lighter ships, intended for transport, while the Hannoverian navy operates twelve ships of the line, eighteen frigates, and a number of lighter ships in addition to their merchant navy.

Goals: The official goal of the Confederation is the final unification of all German-speaking states. How exactly that unification will take place is unclear, especially with the ongoing conflict between monarchies and republics within the Confederation.

Imperial Ambitions: Holstein und Pommern must be returned to the Fatherland!

History: The history of Germany as we know it today- a loose collection of disconnected states sharing a language- can essentially be traced back to the foundation of the Holy Roman Empire in 800 AD, which upset very many people and is widely regarded as a Bad Move, particularly by those conquered by it. The Empire as it was then lasted very shortly, however- indeed, by 843 AD, the state was divided into three successor states, among them the Rex Teutonicum, or Kingdom of Germany. That was the very first German state, and it was a model that would not be imitated for a very long time for all it's Ost- and Sud-siedlung; without a strong state to make it so, and with the Holy Roman Empire growing increasingly irrelevant, no opportunity presented itself for the creation of another, leading instead to the formation of a hundred smaller states.

What is Germany?

It's a question that was asked often enough that by the latter half of the eighteenth century, the intellectuals, free-thinkers, and rabble-rousers had gathered together their myopic energies in forcing the question on the Holy Roman Emperor himself to attempt to answer it. Unfortunately, the summer winds of 1782 had a different goal in mind; namely, revolution. From the beer-halls and commune-halls of Bavaria, Baden, and Bohemia, a storm tore through Germany, upsetting the balance of power and what had been for hundreds of years. For one brief, glorious moment, from Berlin to Bern, from Bonn to Berndorf, they stood at the barricades, the vanguards of Germany, black, red, and gold waving in the wind- until Prussian soldiers and Austrian mercenaries cut them down.

By the winter of 1784, things had returned to relative normality. The revolutionary spirit in the South remained unbroken, although cracks had appeared in their resolved; Prussia and Austria licked their wounds, with Bohemia, one of the most vigorous of the revolutionary states, returned to Habsburg rule, and while the Swiss, Bavarians, Baden-Württembergers, and fickle Hannoverians allied on one side, with Prussia, Austria, and the many royal cousin-states across Germany on the other. Conscious of spilling German blood once more, the survivors agreed a truce and treaty; thus, the German Confederation came to be, an alliance held together by gold, iron, and the prayers of desperate men, the only anchor keeping Germany from further bloodshed- and in the mind of the grumbling majority, true unification.
RP Sample: You know me.
I have read the rules: clearly not hhheheheh
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Gott mit uns, Kerls!

Lol, what's Germany?
Is it Prussia? Swabia?
Is it where, on the Rhine, wine grows?
Or is it where on the Belt, seagulls go?
Lolno, no, no!
:It's bigger than that, fgt!:
Lol, what's Germany?
Is it Bavaria? Styria?
Is it where Marsen cows are?
Is it where Marker iron is mined?
Lolno, no, no!
:It's bigger than that, fgt!:
etc.

Seems fine... except that the 'economy' part is AFK.

Fill that in

[Sveltlana]

Also, I lost you at around post #600

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Nation Name: Kingdom of France
National Symbols: Flag, Coat of Arms, Anthem
Capital City: Paris (Versailles - Seat of Government)
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy with a powerful Head of State and Government.
Leader(s): Louis XVIII
Population, Nation: 30,250,000
Population, Empire:
- Ceylon: 707,000
- Taiwan: 3,020,000
- Madagascar: 1,600,000
- Hispaniola: 640,000
- Algeria: 1,400,000
- French Guinea: 23,700
- Rest of the overseas territories: ~6,500,000

TOTAL: 44,140,700

Location: Map (Light Blue - France)

Economy: France's economy is one of the most advanced currently. Although
Infrastructure: (description of your nation's infrastructure)

Army: Currently the French Army is composed of 635,110 professional soldiers; around 689,111 are reserved. The French Army is considered as one of the best in Europe and the World. The amount of experience, technology, armament, training, and prestige that the French army has is known throughout the world. The French army is also one of the most technologically advanced which gives it the advantage to create new tactics and improve existing ones in order to increase the effective of its armament. The French Army is also very diverse. Soldiers are trained in two different geographical scenarios throughout the world - from deserts to deep jungle to European landscapes, soldiers receive a strict military training and are expose to harsh conditions in order to build their resiliency to the hardships of warfare. With the creation of the Foreign Legion, the government wants to create a prestigious, effective, superior elite force for the French Armed Forces. Soldiers who are part of this group receive training in many more geographical scenarios than the standard army. Although still infant, the Foreign Legion is increasingly becoming more and more prestigious within the French Armed Forces.

Navy: The French Navy has 145 Ships-of-the-line, without counting the rest of the navy. Although a large number of the ships-of-the-line, 53 of them were commissioned between 1792 to 1804, in other words part of the current French Navy is not as "updated" as the French government would like it to be. The French Navy is the second most experienced and advanced navy in the world (after the British navy and tied with the Spanish navy) and it has the capabilities of overseeing France's colonial holdings. The French Marines are also one of the most experience Marine corps in the world, however the French Foreign Legion (in this AH created in 1815) has been gathering tremendous experience in global tactics; yet still, the Foreign Legion is in an infant state currently.

Goals:
- To develop the French economy even more.
- To improve the living standards of the French citizens
- To protect commercial interests
- To maintain peace in the region
- To increase France's prestige

Imperial Ambitions:
- Economic Imperialism will begin to be a higher focus for the French government.
- The French government hopes to increase its presence in Asia and in Africa.
- The rest is top secret.

History: France's history will remain intact until 1723.

- 1723: King Louis XV becomes king.
- 1738: Treaty of Vienna is signed.
- 1748: Treaty of Aix-la-Chapelle
- 1760: Frances annexes Corsica through the Treaty of Versailles.*
- 1769: Napoleon Bonaparte born in Corsica.
- 1763: Seven Years' War ends in favor of Britain. Large blow to France's colonial possessions.
- 1765: France captures the rest of Hispaniola after a rebellion broke out that brought life to a young pirate nation.
- 1766: France has its first interaction with the communities of Madagascar.
- 17

The Kingdom of France hopes to anchor into a new era of prosperity and success(Pick a date for your POD from 1444 C.E. to 1800 C.E.)
RP Sample: viewtopic.php?p=20929844#p20929844
I have read the rules: [y]
429: Don't remove - for tracking purposes.

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UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

Can I do the history in the form of a timeline?

Sure!

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Nation Name: Los Estados Unidos Bolivarianos de Suramerica | Les États Unis Bolivarienne de l'Amérique du Sud | La Republica Suramericana colloquial
National Symbols:

(Image)

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Capital City: Maracaibo, District Federal
Government Type: Federal Constitutional Presidential Republic
Leader(s): Presidente Francisco Santiago
Population, Nation: 20,000,000
Population, Empire: N/A
Location: http://i.imgur.com/vlT0KGE.png

Economy: The main natural resources that drive the Suramericano economy include timber, stone, sugar, foodstuffs, coffee, cacao, gold, and silver.
Infrastructure: Mostly basic, dirt roads. There are cobbled roads in most cities, and along the frontiers there are virtually no roads. The vast expanse of mountains allows for the mass-construction of cobbled roads, although the nation is very young.

Army: ~20,000 Ejército Establecido, ~200,000 Ejercito Reservado
Navy: 3 42-gun Frigates, 5 Sloops-of-War ; Based in Maracaibo

Goals: (optional) Industrialize, Quell native unrest, blah, blah
Imperial Ambitions: Pan-Americanism (ALL OF SOUTH AMERICA)
History: 1812-1820 ~ Bolivar leads the nations of Suramerica to revolution, then unifies them once defeating the Spanish armies. Once finished, they anchor the few naval warships in El Puerto de Maracaibo.
RP Sample: OP - 1250 AH RP
I have read the rules: No.. Yes! no.
429: Don't remove - for tracking purposes.

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Now with revised map!

Unless the OP objects, Accepted!

Noted!

[The New Lowlands]

-snip-

Seems fine... except that the 'economy' part is AFK.

Fill that in

Done!

[Sveltlana]

Seems fine... except that the 'economy' part is AFK.

Fill that in

Done!

Accepted!

[Alcase]

We should have a pre-set timescale.

[The New Lowlands]

We should have a pre-set timescale.

That can go horribly wrong, particularly if we get people 'reserving' posts.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Hey! What happened while I wad gone?