The Pursuit of Victory — 1821 AH [OPEN] [OOC]

[Chihuahua y Tejas]

Yeah. Cascadia vs. UPA.

Meh. Maybe when tanks become a thing. Fighting in the midwest would be hellaboring. Plus no Naval battles? Boo.

You're just taking The Californias, Nevada, and Utah right? I need to know what I am being left with.

Cascadia on this map:

http://i.imgur.com/tll0XdN.png

Egh I guess I can live with that. Just one thing, you're buying the land(Includes whatever you took from the Mexican Empire, that did not belong to you in your original map)

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Why Philie Glitter?

Because I didn't want to use New Amsterdam as that capital since we broke free from the Dutch lol. Nothing with a new in it will ever be my capital lol.

Philly is a larger city on a decent river close to the middle of the country. It also the city that Birthed Liberty, so we put it there and kept it there.

[Sveltlana]

I'll bide my time... patiently...

*stares at Cuba*

...patiently...

[Jordslag]

Do either Cascadia or the UPA want Sammarinese citizenship? Answer me this time Plox.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

*stares at Cuba*

...patiently...

*stares harder at Cuba*

"Remember the Mainen"

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Do either Cascadia or the UPA want Sammarinese citizenship? Answer me this time Plox.

Surprise me.

[Rephesus]

Do either Cascadia or the UPA want Sammarinese citizenship? Answer me this time Plox.

But why would we want...


Uh.... sure.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Just want to say, San Marino typically follows Italy...
Like When Italy went fascist so did San Marino, When Communism gained popularity in Italy, It did in SM to, so watch that.

[Sveltlana]

...patiently...

*stares harder at Cuba*

"Remember the Mainen"

Damn Americans.

*sowing the seeds of war, seeds of war, sowing the seeds!

Sowing, the seeds of war, sowing the seeds of war!*

(Am I too old to know the song 'Sowing the seeds of love?'

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

*stares harder at Cuba*

"Remember the Mainen"

Damn Americans.

*sowing the seeds of war, seeds of war, sowing the seeds!

Sowing, the seeds of war, sowing the seeds of war!*

c:

Also, has the UPA been accepted yet?

[Sveltlana]

Damn Americans.

*sowing the seeds of war, seeds of war, sowing the seeds!

Sowing, the seeds of war, sowing the seeds of war!*

c:

Also, has the UPA been accepted yet?

With a 19 million pop?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

c:

Also, has the UPA been accepted yet?

With a 19 million pop?

What do you think it should be around?

I kept it up that high since we never genocided the Natives and also took a lot more of Mexico than we have negotiated it down to.

[Sveltlana]

With a 19 million pop?

What do you think it should be around?

I kept it up that high since we never genocided the Natives and also took a lot more of Mexico than we have negotiated it down to.

USA's IRL pop was 10 million right now. Given that, and a small bonus I'm willing to throw in, I'll allow you 14.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

What do you think it should be around?

I kept it up that high since we never genocided the Natives and also took a lot more of Mexico than we have negotiated it down to.

USA's IRL pop was 10 million right now. Given that, and a small bonus I'm willing to throw in, I'll allow you 14.

Perfectly fine with me, that's where I was gonna guestimate it.

[Jordslag]

Do either Cascadia or the UPA want Sammarinese citizenship? Answer me this time Plox.

But why would we want...


Uh.... sure.

Okay then. Your President will gain Citizenship soon.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Updated.

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Nation Name: The United Provinces of Amerika (UPA)
National Symbols:
-Groot Union Flag
-Coat of Arms
Capital City: Filadelphia (Take a guess what this is mate)
Government Type: Federal Presidential Republic
Leader(s): Voorzitter Andre Jaksoon
Population, Nation: 14,252,000
Population, Empire: N/A
Location: http://i.imgur.com/2nRkrAI.png *this has been negotiated down*

Economy: Anglo-Dutch Capitalism, what is not to like c: But no, we do like timber and coal is starting to become a thing, among our other mining industries which are also large. Cotton in the South, heavy farming well almost everywhere, Fishing is a thing too. We also make guns and booze. All in all, we cover most fields of industry and do pretty good with what we are.
Infrastructure: Major roads connect most major cities on the coast, and city roads are well maintained. Rural roads are neglected but exist. Canals are present throughout most of the nation. There are some trying to develop some sort of witchcraft called the "Stoommachine", God knows if they will succeed or not.

Army:
-Federale Army
--175,000 Standing
--290,000 Reserves
--Morale is high after the Mexican War
--Leadership and tactics proved to work against Mexico, but does not mean it will work against other nations.
--Well equipped and well trained for the most part.
-Provincial Militias
--210,000
--Each Provinces had their own militia, consisting of men that are fully trained soldiers or farmers with a gun.
Navy:
-Federale Navy:
--Best Navy NA
--16 Ship of the Lines
--Well trained and well equipped to maintain dominance over the Atlantic.
--Can easily add more ships to the navy.
-Provincial Navies
--Each province also has the ability to have its own navy to protect its coastline, and most on the Atlantic either have their own or pooled together with a neighboring provinces. to establish one.
--15 ships of various types belong to the various provinces.

Goals:
-*stares at Swedish-Canada*
-*stares at Anglo-Dutch Canada*
-*stares at Mexico*
-*stares as Caribbean*
-*stares at South America*
Imperial Ambitions: Manifest Destiny all over the place c:
History: It was the year 1776, and the Anglo-Dutch Settlers in the Dertien Colonies of Amerika were rather pissed off at their Colonial Motherland. The Dutch-Amerikans were angry at how their Dutch Motherland was treating them, and the Anglo-Amerikans were angry their Motherland was not in control. Tensions continued to rise, and later in that same year, the Amerikan War for Independence. Bolstered by the newly independent Cascadia in the West and other rivals of the Anglo-Dutch, the Amerikans won their war for independence. The new nation was granted their undisputed independence by their now former Motherland in the year 1781. After the Convention of Filadelphia, the Constitution of the United Provinces of Amerika was established, creating the Federale Government. Expansion Westward occurred and eventually stopped and a war with Mexico (whatever it is now) gained the UPA their lands in traditional Mexican (or whateveran) territory. Since the war with Mexico (or whatever), the UPA has remained peaceful(ish) and has mainly focused on subduing the natives of North America that opposed them (the Dutch treated them decently and not like total dickwards), which are mainly out West. These Natives were either convinced by fellow Native Amerikans that integrated into the UPA or were convinced at the end of the barrel of a gun. Most of them chose the former over the latter. War was seen with the Mexican Empire in which the UPA gained the Province of Texas from the Mexican Empire. It was a joint invasion with the Cascadians over the Mexican treatment of Amerikan migrants to the Mexican State of Texico. The UPA government liberated the Amerikcan settlers and annexed the land in which they resided. We really want to throw an anchor at the Anglo-Dutch and Swedish lands in Canada.
RP Sample: hehehe c:
I have read the rules: Yes
429: Don't remove - for tracking purposes.

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[Jordslag]

Just want to say, San Marino typically follows Italy...
Like When Italy went fascist so did San Marino, When Communism gained popularity in Italy, It did in SM to, so watch that.

Actually, not entirely correct: Communism never became really popular in SM. Fascism did, and it was literally THE least Authoritarian Fascist Country.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

It's 1821 why does any of this matter?

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Just want to say, San Marino typically follows Italy...
Like When Italy went fascist so did San Marino, When Communism gained popularity in Italy, It did in SM to, so watch that.

Actually, not entirely correct: Communism never became really popular in SM. Fascism did, and it was literally THE least Authoritarian Fascist Country.

Not much Authoritarianism can do in San MArino...
It ruled San Marino for one term.

[Jordslag]

Actually, not entirely correct: Communism never became really popular in SM. Fascism did, and it was literally THE least Authoritarian Fascist Country.

Not much Authoritarianism can do in San MArino...
It ruled San Marino for one term.

What? No, he ruled the country from 1923 to 1945.

[Chihuahua y Tejas]

Hella ugly *Both the northern border and my editing map skills

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Not much Authoritarianism can do in San MArino...
It ruled San Marino for one term.

What? No, he ruled the country from 1923 to 1945.

The Communists ruled San Marino for 1 term.

[Sveltlana]

Updated.

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Nation Name: The United Provinces of Amerika (UPA)
National Symbols:
-Groot Union Flag
-Coat of Arms
Capital City: Filadelphia (Take a guess what this is mate)
Government Type: Federal Presidential Republic
Leader(s): Voorzitter Andre Jaksoon
Population, Nation: 14,252,000
Population, Empire: N/A
Location: http://i.imgur.com/2nRkrAI.png *this has been negotiated down*

Economy: Anglo-Dutch Capitalism, what is not to like c: But no, we do like timber and coal is starting to become a thing, among our other mining industries which are also large. Cotton in the South, heavy farming well almost everywhere, Fishing is a thing too. We also make guns and booze. All in all, we cover most fields of industry and do pretty good with what we are.
Infrastructure: Major roads connect most major cities on the coast, and city roads are well maintained. Rural roads are neglected but exist. Canals are present throughout most of the nation. There are some trying to develop some sort of witchcraft called the "Stoommachine", God knows if they will succeed or not.

Army:
-Federale Army
--175,000 Standing
--290,000 Reserves
--Morale is high after the Mexican War
--Leadership and tactics proved to work against Mexico, but does not mean it will work against other nations.
--Well equipped and well trained for the most part.
-Provincial Militias
--210,000
--Each Provinces had their own militia, consisting of men that are fully trained soldiers or farmers with a gun.
Navy:
-Federale Navy:
--Best Navy NA
--16 Ship of the Lines
--Well trained and well equipped to maintain dominance over the Atlantic.
--Can easily add more ships to the navy.
-Provincial Navies
--Each province also has the ability to have its own navy to protect its coastline, and most on the Atlantic either have their own or pooled together with a neighboring provinces. to establish one.
--15 ships of various types belong to the various provinces.

Goals:
-*stares at Swedish-Canada*
-*stares at Anglo-Dutch Canada*
-*stares at Mexico*
-*stares as Caribbean*
-*stares at South America*
Imperial Ambitions: Manifest Destiny all over the place c:
History: It was the year 1776, and the Anglo-Dutch Settlers in the Dertien Colonies of Amerika were rather pissed off at their Colonial Motherland. The Dutch-Amerikans were angry at how their Dutch Motherland was treating them, and the Anglo-Amerikans were angry their Motherland was not in control. Tensions continued to rise, and later in that same year, the Amerikan War for Independence. Bolstered by the newly independent Cascadia in the West and other rivals of the Anglo-Dutch, the Amerikans won their war for independence. The new nation was granted their undisputed independence by their now former Motherland in the year 1781. After the Convention of Filadelphia, the Constitution of the United Provinces of Amerika was established, creating the Federale Government. Expansion Westward occurred and eventually stopped and a war with Mexico (whatever it is now) gained the UPA their lands in traditional Mexican (or whateveran) territory. Since the war with Mexico (or whatever), the UPA has remained peaceful(ish) and has mainly focused on subduing the natives of North America that opposed them (the Dutch treated them decently and not like total dickwards), which are mainly out West. These Natives were either convinced by fellow Native Amerikans that integrated into the UPA or were convinced at the end of the barrel of a gun. Most of them chose the former over the latter. War was seen with the Mexican Empire in which the UPA gained the Province of Texas from the Mexican Empire. It was a joint invasion with the Cascadians over the Mexican treatment of Amerikan migrants to the Mexican State of Texico. The UPA government liberated the Amerikcan settlers and annexed the land in which they resided. We really want to throw an anchor at the Anglo-Dutch and Swedish lands in Canada.
RP Sample: hehehe c:
I have read the rules: Yes
429: Don't remove - for tracking purposes.

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Accepted, I believe.

[Rephesus]

Hella ugly *Both the northern border and my editing map skills

Why didya claim my Capital... ?

[Sveltlana]

Hella ugly *Both the northern border and my editing map skills

I thought you were pressing for Utah, Sonora, and Baja California?