The Pursuit of Victory — 1821 AH [OPEN] [OOC]

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Uhm. How about instead of a war that partitioned Mexico, it got sold to yall by the Spaniards or some shit. It would totally blow if I start of as a war-ravaged country with no hope of getting better in the near future.

I'd be fine with toning down how much we actually kicked your ass in a war, but I need a war to get morale up to take on the Motherland again.

We'd only grab a little of Texas but we'd use that as propaganda back home.

[Jordslag]

Uhm. How about instead of a war that partitioned Mexico, it got sold to yall by the Spaniards or some shit. It would totally blow if I start of as a war-ravaged country with no hope of getting better in the near future.

That's what I did with Valentir before he ditched. Sold him everything until IRL Mexico.

Can Nippon into Mexico?

[Sveltlana]

Uhm. How about instead of a war that partitioned Mexico, it got sold to yall by the Spaniards or some shit. It would totally blow if I start of as a war-ravaged country with no hope of getting better in the near future.

I'd be fine with toning down how much we actually kicked your ass in a war, but I need a war to get morale up to take on the Motherland again.

We'd only grab a little of Texas but we'd use that as propaganda back home.

You could take Texas until the Nueces river. Trying to go below that will result in a severe infamy cost.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Take the Mexican provinces above the Nueces (2 of them) away and redistribute them in the border with Cascadia and that will be fine. Preferably in Baja Calif.

I have no idea which provinces they are lol.

Could you perhaps edit that map and show me?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nueces_River#mediaviewer/File:Nueces_Watershed.png

[Chihuahua y Tejas]

So what exactly is what Cascadia and UPA want? I mean I am sure we can come to an agreement.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

How is this?

I believe I stay above that river, no land changes between Cas and the UPA, Mexico keeps a good chunk of land.

Wasn't a hugely devastating war, but your navy is licking its wounds or in my navy yards (since we do have a pretty fabulous navy we likely beat it pretty hard), your morale isn't totally shattered, maybe your first emperor was not beheaded but abdicated instead, whatever. That would be what actually happened.

What we'd tell our population is totally different lol.

[Sveltlana]

So what exactly is what Cascadia and UPA want? I mean I am sure we can come to an agreement.

UPA wants a morale boost and a notch of Texas. Cascadia wants California. If we are lucky, only the northern part.

[Rephesus]

So what exactly is what Cascadia and UPA want? I mean I am sure we can come to an agreement.

UPA wants a morale boost and a notch of Texas. Cascadia wants California. If we are lucky, only the northern part.

Baja California, yes. I mean the other side of the Gulf of California is also west of the cascades, But I'm willing to make concessions.

[Chihuahua y Tejas]

How is this?

I believe I stay above that river, no land changes between Cas and the UPA, Mexico keeps a good chunk of land.

Wasn't a hugely devastating war, but your navy is licking its wounds or in my navy yards (since we do have a pretty fabulous navy we likely beat it pretty hard), your morale isn't totally shattered, maybe your first emperor was not beheaded but abdicated instead, whatever. That would be what actually happened.

What we'd tell our population is totally different lol.

Fine with that. When would this war have taken place?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

How is this?

I believe I stay above that river, no land changes between Cas and the UPA, Mexico keeps a good chunk of land.

Wasn't a hugely devastating war, but your navy is licking its wounds or in my navy yards (since we do have a pretty fabulous navy we likely beat it pretty hard), your morale isn't totally shattered, maybe your first emperor was not beheaded but abdicated instead, whatever. That would be what actually happened.

What we'd tell our population is totally different lol.

Fine with that. When would this war have taken place?

Could be as far away as 1818 (I gave Mexico Independence in 1812 to establish a backstory) or as soon as 1820.

[Sveltlana]

It would be interesting that you begin the IC just as you're negotiating a peace.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

It would be interesting that you begin the IC just as you're negotiating a peace.

That would work, or perhaps we just returned from negotiating peace?

[Sveltlana]

It would be interesting that you begin the IC just as you're negotiating a peace.

That would work, or perhaps we just returned from negotiating peace?

It's up to you two, but I'd rather have the first option. I'm not sure why.

[Chihuahua y Tejas]

Fine with that. When would this war have taken place?

Could be as far away as 1818 (I gave Mexico Independence in 1812 to establish a backstory) or as soon as 1820.

I would prefer it to be prior to the revolutionary war, seeing that the loss of a war would prompt the Mexicans to rebel against the Spanish. But if it necessarily has to be against Mexico 1818 sounds fine.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

That would work, or perhaps we just returned from negotiating peace?

It's up to you two, but I'd rather have the first option. I'm not sure why.

Only issue is we need a conference and that clutters up the IC.

Easier if we negotiate terms in the OOC, I make up a treaty and put it in my opening post for the IC, and in that same post RP the aftermath of that in the UPA.

Once I do that, Baja (will always call you that lol) posts the aftermath of it in Mexico, etc.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Could be as far away as 1818 (I gave Mexico Independence in 1812 to establish a backstory) or as soon as 1820.

I would prefer it to be prior to the revolutionary war, seeing that the loss of a war would prompt the Mexicans to rebel against the Spanish. But if it necessarily has to be against Mexico 1818 sounds fine.

Only issue with that is I need to deal with the A-D Motherland for that war, much easier for me if we do it after. Plus it would be the first big victory since the Indy War, all about morale for us tbh.

[Jordslag]

I would prefer it to be prior to the revolutionary war, seeing that the loss of a war would prompt the Mexicans to rebel against the Spanish. But if it necessarily has to be against Mexico 1818 sounds fine.

Only issue with that is I need to deal with the A-D Motherland for that war, much easier for me if we do it after. Plus it would be the first big victory since the Indy War, all about morale for us tbh.

BTW: Who was the American President at this time?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Only issue with that is I need to deal with the A-D Motherland for that war, much easier for me if we do it after. Plus it would be the first big victory since the Indy War, all about morale for us tbh.

BTW: Who was the American President at this time?

Like the legit one or mine?

Mine is Andre Jaksoon. The actual one was James Moore.

[Sveltlana]

It's up to you two, but I'd rather have the first option. I'm not sure why.

Only issue is we need a conference and that clutters up the IC.

Easier if we negotiate terms in the OOC, I make up a treaty and put it in my opening post for the IC, and in that same post RP the aftermath of that in the UPA.

Once I do that, Baja (will always call you that lol) posts the aftermath of it in Mexico, etc.

As you wish. You have the right to decide how to make peace with another player.

[Chihuahua y Tejas]

I would prefer it to be prior to the revolutionary war, seeing that the loss of a war would prompt the Mexicans to rebel against the Spanish. But if it necessarily has to be against Mexico 1818 sounds fine.

Only issue with that is I need to deal with the A-D Motherland for that war, much easier for me if we do it after. Plus it would be the first big victory since the Indy War, all about morale for us tbh.

Then 1818 it is.

[Jordslag]

BTW: Who was the American President at this time?

Like the legit one or mine?

Mine is Andre Jaksoon. The actual one was James Moore.

Ah, I see. Are you gonna have an American Civil War?

[Rephesus]

I like the idea of working out the treaty OOC and posting it IC. I'd only want Baja California (Inc. South) and Sonora.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

As you wish. You have the right to decide how to make peace with another player.

Mkay, sounds lovely. We can work out the exact terms later, I'm off to dinner soon.

Does anyone have a good treaty template I can "borrow"? I can make my own of course, it just entails a lot of screaming at my keyboard.

[Jordslag]

As you wish. You have the right to decide how to make peace with another player.

Mkay, sounds lovely. We can work out the exact terms later, I'm off to dinner soon.

Does anyone have a good treaty template I can "borrow"? I can make my own of course, it just entails a lot of screaming at my keyboard.

I can't even make my own template, screaming or no...

[Rephesus]

As you wish. You have the right to decide how to make peace with another player.

Mkay, sounds lovely. We can work out the exact terms later, I'm off to dinner soon.

Does anyone have a good treaty template I can "borrow"? I can make my own of course, it just entails a lot of screaming at my keyboard.

I could make one.

And do you think we should say the conference was hosted in Cuba? I just figure it's a good location because of neutrality, yet interest.