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How should we deal with Switzerland, due to violations of rules 5 and 6?

Kick
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Warn
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Total votes : 63

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Toradora
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Postby Toradora » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:16 pm

Aelarus wrote:Actually I'm not sure how a third world war is going to play out without China serving as an aggressor in the East, its probably a better OPFOR than Russia is.


Well, I'll give Sankaku an opening in IC if he needs it, but that was never my desired outcome. The PRC can always do a Siberian land-grab given Russian disarray. Or, the North Koreans can be involved somehow. Or, Pakistan and India could be themselves. Or, some rogue actor can pop off a WMD somewhere and everyone just loses it. Or, Arctic melt is accelerated somehow and there's a gold rush up there and all bets (and old alliances i.e., NATO) are off.

Basically, WW3 would be a grouping of localized brushfire conflicts, instead of one massive side A vs side B type of conflagration. That's how I imagine it happening, if ever, anyway. :)
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Postby The New Greek Republic » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:33 pm

Just a note to the Taiwan player, the People's Republic of China still wouldn't agree to an independent Taiwan. They claim it as their own territory, so claiming the "Republic of Taiwan" as successor state to the RoC would be like succession from the PRC. Which nobody enjoys :p There's really no way for Taiwan to get on China's good side unless they just give in.
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Postby Benian Republic » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:36 pm

Italy will protect Taiwan from china, lol we'll try
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Postby Guerro » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:40 pm

Lets say Mexico was to be Amercainized. How should such a process start?

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Postby Benian Republic » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:51 pm

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Postby The New Greek Republic » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:12 am

Good first post or nah?
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Postby Aelarus » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:20 am

Well, I'd love to make a post but I just had a massive nosebleed and can't see straight, I'm a bit lightheaded right now so...I'll be back in a bit. Expect an IC post for Germany...oh I don't know...in an hour or so.
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:31 am

I will point out- all the Chinese said was they want to reevaluate Taiwan's political status.

They promised nothing, nor did they say "we're going to let you go."
Also, that was rather rash and surprising. The provisional government is not going to be pleased.
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Postby Boston and Surrounding Provinces » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:58 am

Aelarus wrote:Well, I'd love to make a post but I just had a massive nosebleed and can't see straight, I'm a bit lightheaded right now so...I'll be back in a bit. Expect an IC post for Germany...oh I don't know...in an hour or so.

Holy shit, see a doctor if you can't see straight.
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Postby German Reichtangle » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:03 am

Benian Republic wrote:Italy will protect Taiwan from china, lol we'll try


I'm surprised Italy is interested in Chinese affairs.
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Toradora
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Postby Toradora » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:07 am

Senkaku wrote:I will point out- all the Chinese said was they want to reevaluate Taiwan's political status.

They promised nothing, nor did they say "we're going to let you go."
Also, that was rather rash and surprising. The provisional government is not going to be pleased.


I'm aware of this. The calculus is that the turmoil around the world and within China gives Taiwan a window of opportunity that they feel is closing. The original plan before I started in the IC was 1) build a regional coalition, 2) test the waters with a popular and public referendum, and 3) declare independence with no claims concessions once Japanese, American, Australian etc. support was solid.

The original plan then ran into the reality that the American government almost ceased to exist - but now a young maverick Republican has been emergency sworn in, Abe seemed really keen on taking China on on the world stage, and everyone else's leaders in almost every continent all seem to be getting splatted. Oh and Taiwan's estranged almost superpower cousin/neighbor now seems to be under the control of...someone. All within in a week. By the very way the IC folded, the status quo is dead.

I'd call it a rash action for rash times.

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Postby Toradora » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:13 am

The New Greek Republic wrote:Good first post or nah?

Good, bruh.

The New Greek Republic wrote:Just a note to the Taiwan player, the People's Republic of China still wouldn't agree to an independent Taiwan. They claim it as their own territory, so claiming the "Republic of Taiwan" as successor state to the RoC would be like succession from the PRC. Which nobody enjoys :p There's really no way for Taiwan to get on China's good side unless they just give in.


Yes. Although I think we'll enjoy it regardless of what happens. :) The Taiwanese know they won't survive an all-out brawl or unrestricted conflict. Their only shot in their view, is providing electoral democracies around the world the "moral high-ground" to step in to avoid annihilation.
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Postby Kelmet » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:05 am

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=307456

NATO Thread is up. It's an IC thread this time.
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Postby Kelmet » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:09 am

Universal Hacking device, Nice. I would love to have something like that in RL, Imagine the promotion I would get if I turned that over to the pentagon. :)
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Toradora
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Postby Toradora » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:25 am

Kelmet wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=307456

NATO Thread is up. It's an IC thread this time.


Neat. Here goes nothing - more rash actions.

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Postby Kelmet » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:28 am

Toradora wrote:
Kelmet wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=307456

NATO Thread is up. It's an IC thread this time.


Neat. Here goes nothing - more rash actions.

Are you going to apply for Nato Membership?
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Toradora
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Postby Toradora » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:30 am

No, that'd be rejected outright and wouldn't be realistic. We're going to petition for entry / consideration into the International Partnership Cooperation program.

If anything we would be in years from now, unless there is a global cataclysm well after Australia, ROK, NZ, Thailand, Colombia, Israel, etc.
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Postby Kelmet » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:31 am

Toradora wrote:No, that'd be rejected outright and wouldn't be realistic. We're going to petition for entry / consideration into the International Partnership Cooperation program.

If anything we would be in years from now, unless there is a global cataclysm well after Australia, ROK, NZ, Thailand, Colombia, Israel, etc.

I personally don't think NATO has the right structure for a Global Alliance.
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Toradora
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Postby Toradora » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:34 am

Feel free to reject it. But I do like the TG. Japan is also cooking something up, should talk to him.
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Postby United States Kingdom » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:35 am

So, who wants to be allies with Kenya?

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Postby Kelmet » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:36 am

United States Kingdom wrote:So, who wants to be allies with Kenya?

The US Remains Stead fast in it;s support for Africa
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Postby United States Kingdom » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:38 am

Kelmet wrote:
United States Kingdom wrote:So, who wants to be allies with Kenya?

The US Remains Stead fast in it;s support for Africa


From most rps I have played like this, USA players are usually the country that support Africa.

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Postby Kelmet » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:39 am

United States Kingdom wrote:
Kelmet wrote:The US Remains Stead fast in it;s support for Africa


From most rps I have played like this, USA players are usually the country that support Africa.

BTW I am working on a post that will send my Secretary of State to the EAC conference
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Postby United States Kingdom » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:42 am

Kelmet wrote:
United States Kingdom wrote:
From most rps I have played like this, USA players are usually the country that support Africa.

BTW I am working on a post that will send my Secretary of State to the EAC conference

Okay. :)

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