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Postby Len Hyet » Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:52 pm

Congreveopia wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:Here! Okay, let's roll.

1a) I was going to go with a zped to generate energy. Potentially limitless and rather compact (FT science).

1b) I'm unsure as to what you're getting at here. The way I had envisioned it, and as far as I know how engines work, is simply the creation of focused energy in a single direction. Engine wash is a thing, and it can be dangerous, but it's hard to aim, limited in range, and when it comes to kinetic energy, simple to evade. Simply put, space combat takes place over massive areas. A lightsecond is nothing distancewise in extrasolar combat. Thus, even weapons moving at the speed of light become avoidable with simple combat maneuvers. It doesn't matter if it only takes your weapon three seconds (for example), to hit the target, in those three seconds the enemy ship can have shifted enough to one side or another to have rendered your shot useless. At even longer distances, (lighthours, even lightdays), it becomes quite simply a waste of energy to shoot at your enemy, as they can simply avoid it and you wouldn't even see them move until hours or days later.

2) At that point even the almost minimal stresses space puts on a ship would be too much. Gravity is almost negligible, space is practically empty, but even micrometeors and minimal gravitational pull becomes dangerous the higher in speed a ship gets. I put it at 0.7c because it seemed like a reasonable place to put it, based on my knowledge of FT combat and space itself.

2a) As to your question about attacking entire worlds, hypothetically you could. If you didn't mind destroying the planet utterly. It was my presumption that most combat in space would revolve around the few habitable worlds. Destroying one would be like blowing up the oil reserves both countries are fighting over. Its counterproductive. Assuming you did want to blow up a world, then accelerating anything for a time would be a good way to do it. Obviously ships are somewhat more maneuverable than say, asteroids, and thus harder to shoot down with planetary defenses, but they would have to stabilize at some point, simply to puncture the atmosphere. The G-Class Hunter Killers (the ship is named Valkyrie, tsk tsk), aren't large enough to survive the re-entry burn without a precise insertion, making them vulnerable during entry into the atmosphere. Furthermore, at sufficient velocities hitting the atmosphere of a planet would be like hitting a brick wall a few miles thick. The ship goes boom, the pilot goes splat, and the rubble burns up in the atmosphere.

If I was going to attack a planet with kinetic weaponry for the purpose of destroying it I'd go get a bunch of moon sized asteroids, point them at the planet, strap engines to them, and send them off. A year or so later, no more planet. Assuming they in that time didn't beef up their planetary security of course.


Awesome!

1a) Oooh. I forgot about zero point energy. Without even wondering about whether that would work, it clearly shows that you aren't about to hit an absolute maximum with regards to fuel. Excellent answer.

1b) Hrm. I'm a bit more dubious about this. I'm okay with you saying that long-range kinetic weapons traveling at near light speed can be dodged, but just having something that can make that much energy (enough to get a kinetic weapon up to near light speed) means that whatever weapons you are using are going to impart vast amounts of energy into your enemies. Wait. I have no objection to that. Okay.

2) Great answer.

2a) Hmm. I can see why killing a planet would be counterproductive, but I disagree about the atmosphere protecting the planet at those speeds. But I can imagine militaries not wanting to kill planets, and nobody else having the power and desire to, so yeah, that sounds fine to me. At least until the first holy war.

Thank you very much for your excellent answers. I will absolutely apply to this.

Hm, that's actually rather interesting reading. Thanks for that!

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Postby Zeinbrad » Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:52 pm

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Postby Harbertia » Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:55 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=305163

Le IC.


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Postby Harbertia » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:12 pm

Would have been nice to know what each of us our doing in this mission.

by the way, am I right to assume we've simply landed at the GDF Base, and are suppose to give our reaction or something?
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Postby Zeinbrad » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:14 pm

Harbertia wrote:Would have been nice to know what each of us our doing in this mission.

by the way, am I right to assume we've simply landed at the GDF Base, and are suppose to give our reaction or something?

You are correct.
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Postby Harbertia » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:21 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Harbertia wrote:Would have been nice to know what each of us our doing in this mission.

by the way, am I right to assume we've simply landed at the GDF Base, and are suppose to give our reaction or something?

You are correct.


Could you set the setting a bit better by describing what we'd see, or the planet a bit better. Is their a hot searing wind blowing accross the launch pad? Is their sounds of artillery? What is the world, and base like?
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Postby Zeinbrad » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:24 pm

Harbertia wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:You are correct.


Could you set the setting a bit better by describing what we'd see, or the planet a bit better. Is their a hot searing wind blowing accross the launch pad? Is their sounds of artillery? What is the world, and base like?

Should be a minor edit. Let me get that.
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Postby Segmentia » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:27 pm

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Postby Vancon » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:33 pm

will post after this match of bf4
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Postby Congreveopia » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:41 pm

Character.
Name- Henricks Polyakov
Gender- Male, for what it’s worth.
Race- Gaian, not that it matters.
Sigils and such put on armor- None.
Height- About 75cm on the longest axis, without attachments.

Cybernetics (Yes or no, if yes list type)- Yes. A lot. His brain is the only organic part of him left. It is housed inside a roughly rectangular shell, which itself only provides power, life support, sensors, and basic locomotion (ion thrusters and caterpillar tracks), however it is covered in ports for attaching other devices such as limbs, cameras, wheels, turrets, pretty much anything. Typically, he will have attachments configured in a human form with the shell forming the torso, but he has the potential to be almost anything. His only limitation is power.

Date of Birth and age- 24th of June 2544. Fifty six years old.
Sexuality- Not really a concern anymore.
Personality- Typically reserved. Would be jovial with close friends, except he doesn’t have any. Among friends he lets his love of science and excitable nature show, but he maintains an aloof attitude otherwise. Often sarcastic. Quite possibly insane.
Is he/she a nephilim? (Please contact me if you want to be one and we will discuss)- No.
If so powers(Nothing OP)- None.

Bio- After completing his education, he worked in cybernetics, eventually moving to working on government military projects. As he gained respect, he used his increased budget to pursue better neural interfaces, and new ways to allow users to operate augmentations unlike normal body parts. His work culminated in the Mark One Self Contained Adaptable Neural Support Suit, which he successfully installed his brain in. Three days later, government forces stormed the building when they realised he had been lying on his status reports for eleven months and taking their funding with no plans to give them any of the results. They found his body lying dead, his head crushed in a lab accident.

RP Sample (If you are new write a paragraph about your characters daily life)- viewtopic.php?f=5&t=296261
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"Close air support covereth a multitude of sins." - Maxim 4

Congreveopia is an advanced MT nation, managed by the artificial superintelligence known as "Nexus". It is very active in global affairs, and loves manipulating nations to steer the future of the world.
Links:
Equator Confederation wrote:Congreveopia has spoken. Do it now.
Vancon wrote:Enter Cong, the smartest of our bunch.
The United Remnants of America wrote:Except for Cong, whom I'm now decently sure is a superhuman being we should probably be worshipping.

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Postby Zeinbrad » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:45 pm

Congreveopia wrote:Character.
Name- Henricks Polyakov
Gender- Male, for what it’s worth.
Race- Gaian, not that it matters.
Sigils and such put on armor- None.
Height- About 75cm on the longest axis, without attachments.

Cybernetics (Yes or no, if yes list type)- Yes. A lot. His brain is the only organic part of him left. It is housed inside a roughly rectangular shell, which itself only provides power, life support, sensors, and basic locomotion (ion thrusters and caterpillar tracks), however it is covered in ports for attaching other devices such as limbs, cameras, wheels, turrets, pretty much anything. Typically, he will have attachments configured in a human form with the shell forming the torso, but he has the potential to be almost anything. His only limitation is power.

Date of Birth and age- 24th of June 2544. Fifty six years old.
Sexuality- Not really a concern anymore.
Personality- Typically reserved. Would be jovial with close friends, except he doesn’t have any. Among friends he lets his love of science and excitable nature show, but he maintains an aloof attitude otherwise. Often sarcastic. Quite possibly insane.
Is he/she a nephilim? (Please contact me if you want to be one and we will discuss)- No.
If so powers(Nothing OP)- None.

Bio- After completing his education, he worked in cybernetics, eventually moving to working on government military projects. As he gained respect, he used his increased budget to pursue better neural interfaces, and new ways to allow users to operate augmentations unlike normal body parts. His work culminated in the Mark One Self Contained Adaptable Neural Support Suit, which he successfully installed his brain in. Three days later, government forces stormed the building when they realised he had been lying on his status reports for eleven months and taking their funding with no plans to give them any of the results. They found his body lying dead, his head crushed in a lab accident.

RP Sample (If you are new write a paragraph about your characters daily life)- viewtopic.php?f=5&t=296261
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Seems fine, just don't abuse this and I think we'll have a good time. :D

Accepted, through your post could be longer, you can ask for help if you want. But not me. I suck at giving advise.
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Postby Harbertia » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:48 pm

Well, at least now I know how Karen sees Sora.
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Postby Congreveopia » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:58 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Congreveopia wrote:Character.
Name- Henricks Polyakov
Gender- Male, for what it’s worth.
Race- Gaian, not that it matters.
Sigils and such put on armor- None.
Height- About 75cm on the longest axis, without attachments.

Cybernetics (Yes or no, if yes list type)- Yes. A lot. His brain is the only organic part of him left. It is housed inside a roughly rectangular shell, which itself only provides power, life support, sensors, and basic locomotion (ion thrusters and caterpillar tracks), however it is covered in ports for attaching other devices such as limbs, cameras, wheels, turrets, pretty much anything. Typically, he will have attachments configured in a human form with the shell forming the torso, but he has the potential to be almost anything. His only limitation is power.

Date of Birth and age- 24th of June 2544. Fifty six years old.
Sexuality- Not really a concern anymore.
Personality- Typically reserved. Would be jovial with close friends, except he doesn’t have any. Among friends he lets his love of science and excitable nature show, but he maintains an aloof attitude otherwise. Often sarcastic. Quite possibly insane.
Is he/she a nephilim? (Please contact me if you want to be one and we will discuss)- No.
If so powers(Nothing OP)- None.

Bio- After completing his education, he worked in cybernetics, eventually moving to working on government military projects. As he gained respect, he used his increased budget to pursue better neural interfaces, and new ways to allow users to operate augmentations unlike normal body parts. His work culminated in the Mark One Self Contained Adaptable Neural Support Suit, which he successfully installed his brain in. Three days later, government forces stormed the building when they realised he had been lying on his status reports for eleven months and taking their funding with no plans to give them any of the results. They found his body lying dead, his head crushed in a lab accident.

RP Sample (If you are new write a paragraph about your characters daily life)- viewtopic.php?f=5&t=296261
2234 (Helps find apps do not remove)

Seems fine, just don't abuse this and I think we'll have a good time. :D

Accepted, through your post could be longer, you can ask for help if you want. But not me. I suck at giving advise.


Great, thanks! I'll try to keep my character from becoming OP. Let me know if you think he is at any point, and I'll make him run out of power or something.
"Close air support covereth a multitude of sins." - Maxim 4

Congreveopia is an advanced MT nation, managed by the artificial superintelligence known as "Nexus". It is very active in global affairs, and loves manipulating nations to steer the future of the world.
Links:
Equator Confederation wrote:Congreveopia has spoken. Do it now.
Vancon wrote:Enter Cong, the smartest of our bunch.
The United Remnants of America wrote:Except for Cong, whom I'm now decently sure is a superhuman being we should probably be worshipping.

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Postby Harbertia » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:00 pm

Still don't know what to post. Not given many prompts to go with.

Still waiting for direction.

Karen could play a number of roles in the mission; though infiltration of defenses come to mind due to the video feed cybernetic.
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Postby Len Hyet » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:00 pm

Can we add suitably ambiguous tenants to the Wao Way?
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Postby Harbertia » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:02 pm

Len Hyet wrote:Can we add suitably ambiguous tenants to the Wao Way?


:eyebrow: (What are you planing?)
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Postby Len Hyet » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:03 pm

Harbertia wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:Can we add suitably ambiguous tenants to the Wao Way?


:eyebrow: (What are you planing?)

A favorite quote
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Postby Zeinbrad » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:03 pm

Len Hyet wrote:Can we add suitably ambiguous tenants to the Wao Way?

Sure.

Harb-You can post what your person was doing before, during and after the briefing.

Remember this is a warm up, I want to know how much detail to go into and what to expect from you guys.
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Postby Qeno » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:04 pm

Harbertia wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:Can we add suitably ambiguous tenants to the Wao Way?


:eyebrow: (What are you planing?)

Thinking the same thing...what do you mean by ambiguous tenants?
:?
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Postby Harbertia » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:07 pm

Qeno wrote:
Harbertia wrote:
:eyebrow: (What are you planing?)

Thinking the same thing...what do you mean by ambiguous tenants?
:?


Indeed, even the simplest addition can change the whole way of Wao.
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Postby Vancon » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:08 pm

Post inbound, be advised
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Imperializt Russia wrote:
The balkens wrote:Please tell me that condoms and Hazelnut spread are NOT on the same table.

Well what the fuck do you use for lube?

Krazakistan wrote:How have you not died after being exposed to that much shit on a monthly basis?
Rupudska wrote:I avoid NSG like one would avoid ISIS-occupied Syria.
Alimeria- wrote:I'll go to sleep when I want to, not when some cheese-eating surrender monkey tells me to.

Which just so happens to be within the next half-hour

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Postby Len Hyet » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:10 pm

Harbertia wrote:
Qeno wrote:Thinking the same thing...what do you mean by ambiguous tenants?
:?


Indeed, even the simplest addition can change the whole way of Wao.

Because it seems the entirety of the Wao Way is composed of ambiguous phrases? I mean jeeze did you read the OP? There's at least two interpretations of every freaking sentence.
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Postby Vancon » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:11 pm

Questions:
What does the planet look like?
Permission to do some technical spacehipy stuff?
Is there enemy forces in space?
Do we know of any previous space vessels that are hostile?
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The balkens wrote:Please tell me that condoms and Hazelnut spread are NOT on the same table.

Well what the fuck do you use for lube?

Krazakistan wrote:How have you not died after being exposed to that much shit on a monthly basis?
Rupudska wrote:I avoid NSG like one would avoid ISIS-occupied Syria.
Alimeria- wrote:I'll go to sleep when I want to, not when some cheese-eating surrender monkey tells me to.

Which just so happens to be within the next half-hour

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Postby Len Hyet » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:13 pm

Vancon wrote:Questions:
What does the planet look like?
Permission to do some technical spacehipy stuff?
Is there enemy forces in space?
Do we know of any previous space vessels that are hostile?

You know we're on the ground right?
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Postby Zeinbrad » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:14 pm

Vancon wrote:Questions:
What does the planet look like?
Permission to do some technical spacehipy stuff?
Is there enemy forces in space?
Do we know of any previous space vessels that are hostile?

It's like Earth.

Techobabble? Depends.

Nope.

Nope, but please explain.

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