Guns of Our Forefathers II (OOC, Signups)

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

What country needs an RPer since my glorious Ethiopian country is gone?

No one ever actually applied for the Ottomans, but I dunno if that is still reserved for them.

I dunno how long reservations last, if there is a time limit.

Eastern China is open now, I believe.

[G-Tech Corporation]

What country needs an RPer since my glorious Ethiopian country is gone?

I would say coastal China, but I assume you want a long-term RPing option.

Hmm.

Ottomans?

[Jordslag]

Fine then. HOLY WAR ON PROTESTANTS!

No one gives a fuck no mores c:

I kids, I kids.

[Mishmahig]

Alright, alright. Joking aside.
Mish and I have been talking about this, and we're both under the impression that something must be done about this.
First and foremost, I understand that this is an alternate history, but we're nearing the Industrial Revolution here, and religion is losing its role in wider politics. While countries and populations have their own religious views, governments are increasingly more secular, focusing on materialistic benefits, rather than moral callings. Crusades? For the love of God, Crusades? No - Crusades don't happen anymore (haven't happened for ~100+ years), and I'm sure that no European nation would join a fight merely to "kill the heathen/heretic" when there are limited benefits, compared to other goals -- Imperialism, colonialism, etc. Holy Wars should largely be ignored or rejected by the governments.

The Catholic Alliance -- Faith, while uniting in the Medieval era *cough* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Years'_War *cough*, is no longer the force it was in international politics. Religion no longer causes countries to ally on this scale -- and even in its heyday, it was not always as successful as one may think. Look at France, nicknamed "The Daughter of the Church".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighty_Years%27_War -- Fought alongside Protestants
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years_War -- Fought alongside Protestants

And these are just a few examples from one of the most powerful predominantly Catholic nations.
Ultimately, religion doesn't have as big as an influence on politics as one might think -- especially in matters of war, in this day and age -- as countries ally with whoever benefits their situation the most. This valiant defense to the aid of Poland should not be done with 'Holy Wars' or massive religion-wide alliances -- or religious grounds at all -- and they are poor excuses.

The respective 2 cents of Mish and myself, collecting together into a mighty 4 cents.

[Fortunagen]

Can someone give me a rundown of the Ottomans in this time period?

[Liecthenbourg]

Can someone give me a rundown of the Ottomans in this time period?

They were not apped, AFAIK. Merely reserved.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Can someone give me a rundown of the Ottomans in this time period?

They lack most of the Balkans and instead have a lot more of Arabia and have Ethiopia.

[Jordslag]

Can someone give me a rundown of the Ottomans in this time period?

They lack most of the Balkans and instead have a lot more of Arabia and have Ethiopia.

I haz eaten them.

[Fortunagen]

Can someone give me a rundown of the Ottomans in this time period?

They lack most of the Balkans and instead have a lot more of Arabia and have Ethiopia.

So maybe I can into peaceful Ottoman?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

They lack most of the Balkans and instead have a lot more of Arabia and have Ethiopia.

So maybe I can into peaceful Ottoman?

Or into Venetian hold Holy Land.

[Snovatgatovia]

I'd like to see an Ottoman player-- with several Black sea ports we could import exotic goods from you and give you our enemies' children in return so that they can be turned into janissaries!

[Valentir]

I'll have a post up later today!

[Caltarania]

(Image)

I was inspired by Calt c:

<3

The respective 2 cents of Mish and myself, collecting together into a mighty 4 cents.

I believe already mentioned that it was 4 cents and 2 (GB) pennies at this point.

I'll have a post up later today!

Gut.

[Rephesus]

Touch the Holy Land and the pope burns Medina.

#DefenderOfTheFaith

[Valentir]

Finally got my first post up. Hopefully I can improve my RPing and create some interesting stories with Mikhail, Ivan, Alexander, and many more characters. I am also in no way overcompensating for anything. My post just came out that large.

[Liecthenbourg]

Finally got my first post up. Hopefully I can improve my RPing and create some interesting stories with Mikhail, Ivan, Alexander, and many more characters. I am also in no way overcompensating for anything. My post just came out that large.

I liked the post incredibly.
Once Hannover posts, I'll begin a post responding to any and all letters.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Interesting post Val. I enjoyed the reason for friendship between Prussia and Russia.

[Valentir]

Interesting post Val. I enjoyed the reason for friendship between Prussia and Russia.

The Ussia Pact is my next proposal. It includes a lot of interesting things.

[Quirina]

Everybody loves Poland burning to the ground. Shall I do it myself instead and declare an anarchy spreading all throughout Europe?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Make a Commune!

Also, if anyone is interested in a colonization RP with mechanics, I've got one.

[Quirina]

Make a Commune!

Also, if anyone is interested in a colonization RP with mechanics, I've got one.

Communes are too early, except when Jacobins are in place. I say anarchy and all of the remaining Polish cities razed. Also, I'll add the mass suicide of all Polish citizens and those living in cities. Then, the last who remains alive in the disorder will kill himself, of course. Tadah, Poland no more! No more invasions, no more Pact of Ussies.

[Valentir]

Make a Commune!

Also, if anyone is interested in a colonization RP with mechanics, I've got one.

Communes are too early, except when Jacobins are in place. I say anarchy and all of the remaining Polish cities razed. Also, I'll add the mass suicide of all Polish citizens and those living in cities. Then, the last who remains alive in the disorder will kill himself, of course. Tadah, Poland no more! No more invasions, no more Pact of Ussies.

The Pact of Ussia will always be around. You aren't my only enemy.

[Quirina]

Communes are too early, except when Jacobins are in place. I say anarchy and all of the remaining Polish cities razed. Also, I'll add the mass suicide of all Polish citizens and those living in cities. Then, the last who remains alive in the disorder will kill himself, of course. Tadah, Poland no more! No more invasions, no more Pact of Ussies.

The Pact of Ussia will always be around. You aren't my only enemy.

Dude, the world is your limit. Do what you want. I'll just torch my country to the ground and I'll give you no sweat of worrying about it. Follow my plan and find your next partition in Antartica.

[Valentir]

The Pact of Ussia will always be around. You aren't my only enemy.

Dude, the world is your limit. Do what you want. I'll just torch my country to the ground and I'll give you no sweat of worrying about it. Follow my plan and find your next partition in Antartica.

Wow, no need to give up. I don't intend on messing with Poland until I get a lot of other stuff done. Waging war isn't easy, and with my army spread out over vast swathes of territory, invading Poland would take at the least, 2 to 3 years of planning. You won't get instantly roflstomped, so don't go committing Polish suicide.

[Caltarania]

Hey Val, perhaps you should send Ivan to Berlin? Frederick is a man of the Enlightenment, he likes the arts and shit.

I'm also just going to post out that it would make more sense to use 'Tsar' over 'Czar' considering that IIRC Czar is just the Serbian word for Tsar.

Oh, and for the communique, Frederick is a Kaiser not a King!