Guns of Our Forefathers II (OOC, Signups)

[G-Tech Corporation]

Lads, would it be possible for us to not fall into the bad habit of reserved posts?

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Lads, would it be possible for us to not fall into the bad habit of reserved posts?

What do you think on my proposal?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Lads, would it be possible for us to not fall into the bad habit of reserved posts?

What do you think on my proposal?

Sorry, researching better farming techniques? Sure, the Mughals would certainly find that mutually beneficial.

[Bujahla]

Feel free to trade out of Goa and Pondicherry.

Erm, that's for Venetian traders.

@Mughals, can Bourbons purchase Hong-Kong enclaves in some cities?

What conditions as far as the enclave jurisdictions?

Control of city. Basically like IRL or Hong-Kong. However you think of it. If not, perhaps we can negotiate bilateral trade agreements.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Erm, that's for Venetian traders.



What conditions as far as the enclave jurisdictions?

Control of city. Basically like IRL or Hong-Kong. However you think of it. If not, perhaps we can negotiate bilateral trade agreements.

Hmm, no, that wouldn't be in order. Exclaves won't be a going concern, nor will a transfer of territorial sovereignty. Free trade zones could be established, however.

[The Orson Empire]

Lads, would it be possible for us to not fall into the bad habit of reserved posts?

I don't see a problem with it.

A lot of times, people don't have time to post, so they reserve a spot for their future post.

[Bujahla]

Control of city. Basically like IRL or Hong-Kong. However you think of it. If not, perhaps we can negotiate bilateral trade agreements.

Hmm, no, that wouldn't be in order. Exclaves won't be a going concern, nor will a transfer of territorial sovereignty. Free trade zones could be established, however.

Can their be a free trade zone established in a/whatever city(s) you want?

[Snovatgatovia]

Lads, would it be possible for us to not fall into the bad habit of reserved posts?

I don't see a problem with it.

A lot of times, people don't have time to post, so they reserve a spot for their future post.

Yeah but then things get out of chronological order if people respond to things that come after their reservation and sometime people forget to post at all and just clutter up the thread and worst of all sometimes they just use their reservation to "preemptively" counter whatever people throw at them.

[Bujahla]

I don't see a problem with it.

A lot of times, people don't have time to post, so they reserve a spot for their future post.

Yeah but then things get out of chronological order if people respond to things that come after their reservation and sometime people forget to post at all and just clutter up the thread and worst of all sometimes they just use their reservation to "preemptively" counter whatever people throw at them.

Guys, lets not argue over something as small as this now. If it becomes a real problem, we'll deal with it then. Literally haven't got a page of IC yet.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

What do you think on my proposal?

Sorry, researching better farming techniques? Sure, the Mughals would certainly find that mutually beneficial.

Cool!

Yes, I think research on this will greatly help both of us. Maybe if I am not asking for too much, weaponry research? (I know the Indians were pioneers of the rocket, later adopted by the British)

[Lingang]

OP, have you accepted my nation?

Nation Name: Kingdom of Zimbabwe
Capital City: Great Zimbabwe
Claimed Territory:In purple
Population: 9,127,584
National Flag:

Head of State: King Mauringo
Head of Government: See above
Government Type: Absolute Monarchy
National Ideologies: Monarchism, Pro-Africanism, Free Trade, Western Ideas, Pro-Zimbabwe, Anti-imperialism

History: Zimbabwe was founded in the late 12th Century, as a number of tribes came together as the Kingdom of Zimbabwe. The capital of the Kingdom was made Great Zimbabwe, its great towers an ideal spot for the head of the nation. In the following centuries, Zimbabwe became very wealthy from the copper and ivory produced in it's middle provinces.

In the 1530's, the Kingdom of Zimbabwe expanded outwards into Africa, conquering much of the Mozambique areas. Zimbabwe expanded north into Tanzinia in the 1570's, accessing the Indian Ocean. In 1642, Zimbabwe set Southern Africa into its sights, as the King wished to control more of that area. The Zimbabwean Army ventured into Southern Africa, but encountered the Mthethwa Paramountcy, which was another strong African state. Zimbabwe went to war with the Mthethwa's, but lost to their fierce ways of fighting, ans thus were limited to the areas outside of Southern Africa.

In the 18th Century, Zimbabwe came in contact with European powers. Men from Venice, a nation far away in Europe, colonized the coastlines south of Zimbabwe. And this wasn't the only occurrence. All around the continent, various European powers began to conquer the African coastlines. And soon, the greater nations of Africa began to collapse, with their coastlines taken from them (and thus their contact with the outside world cut off). Now Zimbabwe stands as one of the last major kingdoms in Africa.

Military (Army): 91,000 troops in total.
Military (Navy): 40 ships in total
429- do not remove, or else your app won't be accepted

[Bujahla]

OP, have you accepted my nation?

Nation Name: Kingdom of Zimbabwe
Capital City: Great Zimbabwe
Claimed Territory:In purple
Population: 9,127,584
National Flag:

(Image)

Head of State: King Mauringo
Head of Government: See above
Government Type: Absolute Monarchy
National Ideologies: Monarchism, Pro-Africanism, Free Trade, Western Ideas, Pro-Zimbabwe, Anti-imperialism

History: Zimbabwe was founded in the late 12th Century, as a number of tribes came together as the Kingdom of Zimbabwe. The capital of the Kingdom was made Great Zimbabwe, its great towers an ideal spot for the head of the nation. In the following centuries, Zimbabwe became very wealthy from the copper and ivory produced in it's middle provinces.

In the 1530's, the Kingdom of Zimbabwe expanded outwards into Africa, conquering much of the Mozambique areas. Zimbabwe expanded north into Tanzinia in the 1570's, accessing the Indian Ocean. In 1642, Zimbabwe set Southern Africa into its sights, as the King wished to control more of that area. The Zimbabwean Army ventured into Southern Africa, but encountered the Mthethwa Paramountcy, which was another strong African state. Zimbabwe went to war with the Mthethwa's, but lost to their fierce ways of fighting, ans thus were limited to the areas outside of Southern Africa.

In the 18th Century, Zimbabwe came in contact with European powers. Men from Venice, a nation far away in Europe, colonized the coastlines south of Zimbabwe. And this wasn't the only occurrence. All around the continent, various European powers began to conquer the African coastlines. And soon, the greater nations of Africa began to collapse, with their coastlines taken from them (and thus their contact with the outside world cut off). Now Zimbabwe stands alone as the last sovereign kingdom in Africa.

Military (Army): 91,000 troops in total.
429- do not remove, or else your app won't be accepted

1. That ain't a flag.
2. Describe in your ideology section "western ideas."
3. "Now Zimbabwe stands alone as the last sovereign kingdom in Africa." While poetic, there are others and perhaps tons of them. Kingdom of the Congo, Zulus, Igbo, and more. They just aren't on the map. Keep this in mind since there will be nations next to you on the map that aren't there because they are small, but existent.
4. Describe "pro-africanism"
5. No Navy? Even with all that coast line and Zanzibar?
6. Speaking of Zanzibar, did you trade slaves like IRL did?

[Lingang]

OP, have you accepted my nation?

Nation Name: Kingdom of Zimbabwe
Capital City: Great Zimbabwe
Claimed Territory:In purple
Population: 9,127,584
National Flag:

(Image)

Head of State: King Mauringo
Head of Government: See above
Government Type: Absolute Monarchy
National Ideologies: Monarchism, Pro-Africanism, Free Trade, Western Ideas, Pro-Zimbabwe, Anti-imperialism

History: Zimbabwe was founded in the late 12th Century, as a number of tribes came together as the Kingdom of Zimbabwe. The capital of the Kingdom was made Great Zimbabwe, its great towers an ideal spot for the head of the nation. In the following centuries, Zimbabwe became very wealthy from the copper and ivory produced in it's middle provinces.

In the 1530's, the Kingdom of Zimbabwe expanded outwards into Africa, conquering much of the Mozambique areas. Zimbabwe expanded north into Tanzinia in the 1570's, accessing the Indian Ocean. In 1642, Zimbabwe set Southern Africa into its sights, as the King wished to control more of that area. The Zimbabwean Army ventured into Southern Africa, but encountered the Mthethwa Paramountcy, which was another strong African state. Zimbabwe went to war with the Mthethwa's, but lost to their fierce ways of fighting, ans thus were limited to the areas outside of Southern Africa.

In the 18th Century, Zimbabwe came in contact with European powers. Men from Venice, a nation far away in Europe, colonized the coastlines south of Zimbabwe. And this wasn't the only occurrence. All around the continent, various European powers began to conquer the African coastlines. And soon, the greater nations of Africa began to collapse, with their coastlines taken from them (and thus their contact with the outside world cut off). Now Zimbabwe stands alone as the last sovereign kingdom in Africa.

Military (Army): 91,000 troops in total.
429- do not remove, or else your app won't be accepted

1. That ain't a flag.
2. Describe in your ideology section "western ideas."
3. "Now Zimbabwe stands alone as the last sovereign kingdom in Africa." While poetic, there are others and perhaps tons of them. Kingdom of the Congo, Zulus, Igbo, and more. They just aren't on the map. Keep this in mind since there will be nations next to you on the map that aren't there because they are small, but existent.
4. Describe "pro-africanism"
5. No Navy? Even with all that coast line and Zanzibar?
6. Speaking of Zanzibar, did you trade slaves like IRL did?

1. It is if it's on a white background
2. Hmm, I guess "Western ideas" would conflict with Zimbabwe's culture
3. I'll change it to "one of the last major"
4. It is what it says. An ideology that promotes Africans. Maybe I should change it to "pan-Africanism"...
5. To change. I forgot to put it in there.
6. No

[Quirina]

Someone should make GoOF Poland Balls.

IC post coming up.

[Benian Republic]

Hey England can I ally with them please

[Alleniana]

As for the guys apping in SA, I'll just leave this link here.

Much thank
I thought nobody had noticed at first

That's exciting to hear, since I never had a battle detailed before, like I always post stuff like general details just to make actions while time flies fast.

Okay wait. It's not that detailed, lol. Not like 1875, but still pretty good. More like detailed general concepts. It has its interworkings, but still good. Like more detailed that History of Empires.

*Chile intensifies*

Anyway. Ahem.

Nation Name: Occidentea
Capital City: Occidentea Ciudad (Buenos Aires IRL)
Claimed Territory: http://i.imgur.com/TkrgXHx.png
Population: 15 million
National Flag: http://i.imgur.com/2MgWxtK.png

Head of State: President Joaquim Galicia
Head of Government: Chancellor Pedro Maria Picasso
Government Type: Representative democracy; highly federalised and liberal, fairly nationalistic, with quite a lot of division of power. Essentially, the male landowning free non-criminal sane (etc.) citizens all vote for their local "district" (will come up with Spanish word soon) and two representatives are elected from there, one for the purpose of becoming a senator, one for the purpose of becoming a cabinet minister. In the senate, they represent their district and elect someone to the presidency as well as to the vice, etc. among themselves and act legislatively. In the executive branch, all are assigned some role, e.g. mining, navy, forestry, etc. and also elect a chancellor out of them, plus a vice, for executive purposes. All hold sessions to decide and do other things in the capital but often travel to their district.
National Ideologies: Liberalism, independence, secularism, nationalism (to a degree), modernism
History: After the revolts from Franco-Spain in the early 18th century, several wars wracked the continent. The culturally dissimilar north fought the south, the mountaineers fought the lowlanders of the east, and all hell broke loose. Gradually, several states formed, though. Ambilia, after Francis Ambile, an almost legendary general and politician, controlled much of the south and was by far the most democratic and stable, while further north was Andea, an extremely loose federation of mountain states of all sorts, mostly centralized but somewhat corrupt, and the Brazilian highlands were covered by the Kingdom of Brasil; named after the land they lived on, in turn named after the main economic product, though little market could be found.

After some small amount of time, as borders shifted, instability in Andea allowed Ambilia to slowly expand; decentralizing, but gaining dominion. At the same time, however, both Ambilia and Brasil became ever more unstable, ever more regionalistic, ever more threatened by the outside world. Eventually, as the kingdom began to fall prey to republicanism and liberalism, a mighty joining of all the southern lands of the continent created a new state; Occidentalia. Endowed with some of the most magnificent statesmen to ever walk the earth, it solidified. Federalising to a degree almost unheard of, it managed to keep regionalism from taking hold. Liberalism grew in a wealthy middle class that was dominating the landscape and absorbing more from both higher and lower brackets into it, aided by law systems and economic policies that were planned nearly to the atom, and though a period of intense decentralisation created the freedom and stability needed to bring the country on par with the rest of the world and create it a proper nation, it was towards the end of the 18th century that it truly matured, its government systems finding the weight of tradition behind them, immigrants flocking to a country that had finally eradicated bandits from the simply incomprehensible natural riches, and Occidentalia avoiding the fate of a failed state and turning into a nation-state at last.

(yes, very shit, much gloss, optimist glory unrealistic, blahdiblah, but I'll improve on it as I go along)
429- do not remove, or else your app won't be accepted

Edited

[Liecthenbourg]

As for the guys apping in SA, I'll just leave this link here.

Much thank
I thought nobody had noticed at first

Okay wait. It's not that detailed, lol. Not like 1875, but still pretty good. More like detailed general concepts. It has its interworkings, but still good. Like more detailed that History of Empires.

*Chile intensifies*

Anyway. Ahem.

Nation Name: Occidentalia
Capital City: Occidentalia Ciudad (Buenos Aires)
Claimed Territory: http://i.imgur.com/TkrgXHx.png
Population: 15 million
National Flag: Vertical tricolour with light blue on left and right and yellow in the middle; I will make it eventually

Head of State: President Joaquim Galicia
Head of Government: Chancellor Pedro Maria Picasso
Government Type: Representative democracy; highly federalised and liberal, fairly nationalistic, with quite a lot of division of power.
National Ideologies: Liberalism, independence, secularism, nationalism, modernism
History: Basically, Franco-Spain fell, and its viceroyalties seceded, the borders between them were crushed and erased because they were "oppressive" and then several great leaders unified the area.
429- do not remove, or else your app won't be accepted

Shit app, yes, and I'll edit it greatly later, but if you'll accept it, I won't complain.

I'm think it's fine aside from the history, but I'll let Kry handle this one when he gets on .
If he does accept you, which he will eventually, I'll add you to the map.

[Caltarania]

Prussia happens to have very large Catholic Minorities (Rhine, Östereich, Poland, Slovaks), so they are definitely a nation where the Papacy has significant influence (though not nearly as much as in a Catholic nation like the Bourbons or Austria or Poland)

Our King is a Calvinist, our majority is Lutheran and our southern provinces are Catholic.

Needless to say, we pretty much delegate religion to the churches and Reichprovinz.

Russia and Prussia should divide Poland.

If this wasn't a NS rp, I'd love to.

Unfortunately, NS rps do a good job of somehow turning small wars into goddamn dogpiles.

To all-

I apologize if I may seem a bit absent over the next few days (and, to a lesser extent, weeks), as I am trying to prepare for SATs and cram in some extracurriculars to be a competitive applicant for the college I am trying to get into. Please bear with me and TG me if something uber important comes up- I am sure to check those every time I am on.

SATs? How old are you, nine?

(This is one of those moments when the differences between UK and US terminology make no sense)

Sorry, researching better farming techniques? Sure, the Mughals would certainly find that mutually beneficial.

Cool!

Yes, I think research on this will greatly help both of us. Maybe if I am not asking for too much, weaponry research? (I know the Indians were pioneers of the rocket, later adopted by the British)

But we all know from Sharpe's Enemy that rocket troops are terribly inaccurate.

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I would assume the HRE still exists, right? If so, who would be the Emperor? Frederick II or Friedhelm II?

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

But we all know from Sharpe's Enemy that rocket troops are terribly inaccurate.

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True, but they did have a psychological effect on the enemy.

That was also just one example of what we could research though. The spectrum can be broader.

[Caltarania]

But we all know from Sharpe's Enemy that rocket troops are terribly inaccurate.

[

True, but they did have a psychological effect on the enemy.

That was also just one example of what we could research though. The spectrum can be broader.

Eh. Cannon of this era would also have a psychological effect on the enemy though.

It would give you bragging rights, though.

[Liecthenbourg]

True, but they did have a psychological effect on the enemy.

That was also just one example of what we could research though. The spectrum can be broader.

Eh. Cannon of this era would also have a psychological effect on the enemy though.

It would give you bragging rights, though.

Ah, hello Calt!
We've got a Factbook now.

[Alleniana]

Prussia happens to have very large Catholic Minorities (Rhine, Östereich, Poland, Slovaks), so they are definitely a nation where the Papacy has significant influence (though not nearly as much as in a Catholic nation like the Bourbons or Austria or Poland)

Our King is a Calvinist, our majority is Lutheran and our southern provinces are Catholic.

Needless to say, we pretty much delegate religion to the churches and Reichprovinz.

Why does this sound like Otto IV's Kaisertum Osterreich?

Anyway, my app is edited, and I'll round up the history in a minute.

Research? We'll mainly be researching guerilla tactics and ways to improve vastly underdeveloped land (investment anybody?)

[Liecthenbourg]

Our King is a Calvinist, our majority is Lutheran and our southern provinces are Catholic.

Needless to say, we pretty much delegate religion to the churches and Reichprovinz.

Why does this sound like Otto IV's Kaisertum Osterreich?

Anyway, my app is edited, and I'll round up the history in a minute.

Research? We'll mainly be researching guerilla tactics and ways to improve vastly underdeveloped land (investment anybody?)

Japan would be of great interest in helping you out.
Also, give us sloths, plox.

@Calt.
I'd say that Friedhelm II is Holy Roman Emperor, but that is for you two to decide.
In an ideal world, Emperor Otomo Ira would be.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

True, but they did have a psychological effect on the enemy.

That was also just one example of what we could research though. The spectrum can be broader.

Eh. Cannon of this era would also have a psychological effect on the enemy though.

It would give you bragging rights, though.

By all means, cannons also have a psychological effect on the troops.

I am not doing so much for the bragging part, I am doing it more towards the development of new weaponry or at least the improvement of it. Obviously always keeping realism.

[Caltarania]

Eh. Cannon of this era would also have a psychological effect on the enemy though.

It would give you bragging rights, though.

Ah, hello Calt!
We've got a Factbook now.

Yeah, thanks for stealing my design!

Our King is a Calvinist, our majority is Lutheran and our southern provinces are Catholic.

Needless to say, we pretty much delegate religion to the churches and Reichprovinz.

Why does this sound like Otto IV's Kaisertum Osterreich?

Anyway, my app is edited, and I'll round up the history in a minute.

Research? We'll mainly be researching guerilla tactics and ways to improve vastly underdeveloped land (investment anybody?)

Actually, I just copied IOTL.

Frederick II was a Calvinist, most of northern Germany is Lutheran while most of the south is Catholic.

Why does this sound like Otto IV's Kaisertum Osterreich?

Anyway, my app is edited, and I'll round up the history in a minute.

Research? We'll mainly be researching guerilla tactics and ways to improve vastly underdeveloped land (investment anybody?)

Japan would be of great interest in helping you out.
Also, give us sloths, plox.

@Calt.
I'd say that Friedhelm II is Holy Roman Emperor, but that is for you two to decide.
In an ideal world, Emperor Otomo Ira would be.

It depends how we're doing this.

Who get's to vote? Just the independent members? If that was the case, the only electors would be Prussia, Austria and possibly Switzerland. But, considering the Prussian Confederation is confederate, I would say that the Reichsprovinz were electors/princes aswell. If that was the case, then Frederick would almost indefinitely be the Holy Roman Emperor.

Eh. Cannon of this era would also have a psychological effect on the enemy though.

It would give you bragging rights, though.

By all means, cannons also have a psychological effect on the troops.

I am not doing so much for the bragging part, I am doing it more towards the development of new weaponry or at least the improvement of it. Obviously always keeping realism.

Mhm.