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Great Empire of Gamilus
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Postby Great Empire of Gamilus » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:34 pm

Terintania wrote:
Great Empire of Gamilus wrote:WELL I HAVE PROVIDED THE CLARIFICATION! NOW EVERYONE POST IC'LY AND PLAY NICE!

Now I am going to go marvel at cute Quarians for a bit and finish up my 40k factions RP, when I get back everyone had better be playing nice...

We need Yoite, seeing as he's the Overlord.


When did I say anything about Yoite? I understand we need him and thus provided clarification and summarization to what everyone was arguing about so we can stop argining like schoolgirls over the popular boy.

Now can someone please fetch Yoite and just.... not argue for one fucking page... PLEASE!
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Postby Bearon » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:35 pm

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Yes but there's a difference from keeping any worship from happening then allowing it to happen right under your nose. As Overlord Yoite would be obliged to stomp it out and that would certainly anger those gods.

Hidden belief is still belief.

Also, the Overlord likely isn't enough of a fool to stomp out people's religious beliefs for no benefit to himself.


Maybe and maybe not there is still the fact the war where he conquers all the god's people and kills thousands of followers in the process will certainly anger the gods.
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Postby Bearon » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:35 pm

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Your points are all addressed by sentences in order below.

I have no need to argue I have the need to clarify.

That has always ended badly for me.

I do ask something and when an OP or Co OP tells me I accept it.

I always try to ask pleasantly.

That's what I strive to do, maybe you can't always tells as my posts cannot convey calmness in themselves.

I have always done so.

Well, no one else has had the problems you have, so clearly it's something you're doing.


I guess but I don't know what that is.
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Postby Unitaristic Regions » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:36 pm

TG if it opens again?
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Postby Terintania » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:36 pm

Bearon wrote:
Terintania wrote:We need Yoite, seeing as he's the Overlord.


Yes we do.

Maybe you should ask him to return, and try harder to sort things out without starting an argument.

Great Empire of Gamilus wrote:
Terintania wrote:We need Yoite, seeing as he's the Overlord.


When did I say anything about Yoite? I understand we need him and thus provided clarification and summarization to what everyone was arguing about so we can stop argining like schoolgirls over the popular boy.

Now can someone please fetch Yoite and just.... not argue for one fucking page... PLEASE!


I never said you said anything about Yoite, I was just pointing it out.
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Postby Bearon » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:36 pm

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Yes it would but he'd still be obliged to stop it whenever he saw it happening and the gods would still be angered by this and the enslavement of their people. Not to mention all the followers that will be killed in the coming war.

Why would he be "obliged" to?

He's evil, not stupid.


As I said he may or may not stomp out religions that is his choice but as evil Overlord my thoughts were that he'd only want the people seeing himself as their masters and something like the god's would be detriment to his rule.
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Postby Bearon » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:36 pm

Great Empire of Gamilus wrote:
Terintania wrote:We need Yoite, seeing as he's the Overlord.


When did I say anything about Yoite? I understand we need him and thus provided clarification and summarization to what everyone was arguing about so we can stop argining like schoolgirls over the popular boy.

Now can someone please fetch Yoite and just.... not argue for one fucking page... PLEASE!


Agreed.
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Postby Bearon » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:37 pm

Unitaristic Regions wrote:TG if it opens again?


Sure I'll do that for you.
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Postby Glovania » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:37 pm

ELERIAN! Please, review my app:

[]Mini Factions App-
Faction name: Ice Warriors
Faction Leader: Aleca the Ice Queen
Soldier types:
- 20 Frozen Huscarls - Guys in Viking-esque armour, weliding Great axes.
- 40 Frozen Bowmen - Guys with chain mail and crossbows
- 40 Frozen Pikemen - Guys in chain mail with long spears.


Character App-
Character Name: Aleca the Ice Queen
Appearance: Here
Equipment: Longbow made of Dark Ice
Skills: Dark Ice magic, skilled with a bow.
Backstory: Lived as the daughter of a hunter in a village to the north of the lands. One day, her village was looted and burnt by raiders, and she was the only survivor. She left the smouldering village, and stumbled out into the cold winter blizzard with only her fathers bow in hand. She stubbed through the snow drifts for hours before she finally found a cave. She stumbled inside, where she found a skeleton covered in rags over in the corner, and strange engravings in the wall that seemed to glow blue.

She walked over to them, and began to read what they said to herself in a quiet whisper. When she finished, she heard laughing all around her as dark winds blew around her. She saw a woman's face manifest out if the shadow, before the shadowy gas surged towards her, knocking her to the ground. She looked at the ground around her, and found that it was some kind of blacks sludge which she was sinking into. She tried to move, but it was lime beig in a tar pit - she cod harly move anything. She eventually slipped beneath the surface of the liquid, where she fel unconcious. When she woke up, she was in the same cave, but she felt different. She felt cold.

She looked down at her clothes, and saw that she was wearing a short black dress with knee high black boots with heels. She looked at her arms and saw that they had become a much whiter shade. Her hair had turned a snowy white colour, with steaks of blue going through it. She stood up, and liked down at her hands. Cold mist was coming off them, and falling to the ground. She then smiled evilly as she realised that she had absorbed magic from that strange spirit. She could now control ice and snow at will. Her soul had also been changed another way by the evil spirit - it had been corrupted as much as a soul possibly could be, but Aleca didn't care.

RP examples: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=305236&p=21016237&hilit=Charlie#p21016237

Anything else we should know?: nope.]

Apologies, you've come online about 5 times now, only once noticing my application.
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Postby The Batorys » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:38 pm

Great Empire of Gamilus wrote:(Facepalming into brick wall.)

Okay lets clear this up.

You can't kill the gods via direct means, however you can weaken them by getting rid of a significant number of followers but this is impossible in this situation as Mauro has followers all over the world, Bearon you can IC'ly think you can kill Mauro but in reality you can't (however it would take years of police purges and crap to be rid of followers). However Gods can't be total douches to reality and decide "hey, now that you mention it that guy looks like he hates my followers more than that gods two blocks down." and proceeds to zap every mother fuck who touches his goons.


NOW EVERYONE STFU CAUSE YOU WOKE UP TALI!

OOC the rule is just to prevent people RPing gods, as that wouldn't be fair.

IC, whatever reluctance gods have to involve themselves directly is likely because they want to avoid drawing the other gods into any sort of conflict, as I imagine that there's somewhat a balance of power between them. Mortals can't really hurt gods, but other gods might be able to.

However, at a certain point, if a character was trying to attack a deity directly, said deity might at a certain point, as the attacks on him/her and his/her followers mounted, that dealing with the problem was worth drawing the attention of the other gods.

Tali's adorableness is noted, I might add.
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Postby Bearon » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:38 pm

Terintania wrote:
Bearon wrote:
Yes we do.

Maybe you should ask him to return, and try harder to sort things out without starting an argument.

Great Empire of Gamilus wrote:
When did I say anything about Yoite? I understand we need him and thus provided clarification and summarization to what everyone was arguing about so we can stop argining like schoolgirls over the popular boy.

Now can someone please fetch Yoite and just.... not argue for one fucking page... PLEASE!


I never said you said anything about Yoite, I was just pointing it out.


I don't think he wants to hear from me right now but I can TG him that none of my questions and or concerns were meant to offend him if you guys want.
Nothing to see here. Move along.

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Postby Bearon » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:39 pm

The Batorys wrote:
Great Empire of Gamilus wrote:(Facepalming into brick wall.)

Okay lets clear this up.

You can't kill the gods via direct means, however you can weaken them by getting rid of a significant number of followers but this is impossible in this situation as Mauro has followers all over the world, Bearon you can IC'ly think you can kill Mauro but in reality you can't (however it would take years of police purges and crap to be rid of followers). However Gods can't be total douches to reality and decide "hey, now that you mention it that guy looks like he hates my followers more than that gods two blocks down." and proceeds to zap every mother fuck who touches his goons.


NOW EVERYONE STFU CAUSE YOU WOKE UP TALI!

OOC the rule is just to prevent people RPing gods, as that wouldn't be fair.

IC, whatever reluctance gods have to involve themselves directly is likely because they want to avoid drawing the other gods into any sort of conflict, as I imagine that there's somewhat a balance of power between them. Mortals can't really hurt gods, but other gods might be able to.

However, at a certain point, if a character was trying to attack a deity directly, said deity might at a certain point, as the attacks on him/her and his/her followers mounted, that dealing with the problem was worth drawing the attention of the other gods.

Tali's adorableness is noted, I might add.


That is your own assumption the OP has not ruled on whether God's can interfere directly or not which is the only question I want answered before this is all over.
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Postby Great Empire of Gamilus » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:40 pm

Terintania wrote:I never said you said anything about Yoite, I was just pointing it out.


My apologies, A little... yeah. a little pizzed.

still no matter, we have the issue sorted do we? if so we drop it in the annals of histry and never speak of it again but remember the lesson learned.

Bearon, zipity zip zip-it.
Do you hear the posters sing?
Singing the song of angry men?
It is the music of the short OP
that won't be seen again!

When the mods find this OP
Then this thread will be no more,
But the song will be sung again
When another comes!

OP, do you know the way?
Know the way to fix your post?
Just add details and sources to spark
Debate on these forums.

Otherwise this thread is doomed
Doomed to death by modly wrath
NSG will pick up and move on
'Till another comes!

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Postby Terintania » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:40 pm

How about this. If something seems to start growing in to an argument, everyone just stops. Regardless of whether the question is fully answered, everyone stops and takes a breather. Hell, I'll even be a 'moderator' and tell people when they should stop if anyone thinks it would help.

Bearon wrote:
Terintania wrote:Maybe you should ask him to return, and try harder to sort things out without starting an argument.



I never said you said anything about Yoite, I was just pointing it out.


I don't think he wants to hear from me right now but I can TG him that none of my questions and or concerns were meant to offend him if you guys want.


I don't think the questions offended him, I think the arguements annoyed him. But you could apologize and say that you're going to try to fix it, and you could tell him my suggestion if you want. I don't know what would be best.
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Postby The Batorys » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:40 pm

Great Empire of Gamilus wrote:Everyone, what did I say before, cute stuff and try to calm down...

Tali would not want us fighting..

That picture makes me feel funny.
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Postby Bearon » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:41 pm

Great Empire of Gamilus wrote:
Terintania wrote:I never said you said anything about Yoite, I was just pointing it out.


My apologies, A little... yeah. a little pizzed.

still no matter, we have the issue sorted do we? if so we drop it in the annals of histry and never speak of it again but remember the lesson learned.

Bearon, zipity zip zip-it.


We still need to figure out if God's can interfere directly or not. This will definitely effect what we can and can't do in the RP as god's would certainly interfere if they saw their people getting beaten.

Look I know a brought up a complicated question nobody knows the answer to and you're all scared and frustrated but it's a valid one.
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Postby Bearon » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:42 pm

Terintania wrote:How about this. If something seems to start growing in to an argument, everyone just stops. Regardless of whether the question is fully answered, everyone stops and takes a breather. Hell, I'll even be a 'moderator' and tell people when they should stop if anyone thinks it would help.

Bearon wrote:
I don't think he wants to hear from me right now but I can TG him that none of my questions and or concerns were meant to offend him if you guys want.


I don't think the questions offended him, I think the arguements annoyed him. But you could apologize and say that you're going to try to fix it, and you could tell him my suggestion if you want. I don't know what would be best.


Me neither. What was your suggestion?
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Postby Elerian » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:44 pm

Are you people fucking serious? I leave for five god damn minutes and then one of our pivotal players leaves? Did anyone stop and think for a moment about what they were about to post. Bearon you're continually asking questions that don't even matter. Why the fuck would you want to kill a god? Not only is it nonsensical but its also impossible for any one person to do alone. I already said they have no dealings in the lives of others they just simply, are.

Yoite I don't see why you can't just ignore Bearon and stay on with us? Respond to his shit in the IC from time to time and that's the most interaction you have to have with Bearon if that is your wish. And while the rest of you are just telling everyone else your opinions on something that doesn't matter why don't you help out for a minute and make everyone calm the fuck down until I arrive? Is that so much to ask?
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Postby Terintania » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:45 pm

Bearon wrote:Me neither. What was your suggestion?


Bearon wrote:We still need to figure out if God's can interfere directly or not. This will definitely effect what we can and can't do in the RP as god's would certainly interfere if they saw their people getting beaten.

Look I know a brought up a complicated question nobody knows the answer to and you're all scared and frustrated but it's a valid one.



Terintania wrote:How about this. If something seems to start growing in to an argument, everyone just stops. Regardless of whether the question is fully answered, everyone stops and takes a breather. Hell, I'll even be a 'moderator' and tell people when they should stop if anyone thinks it would help.


So basically, everyone calm down and stop it. Stop with the question, or trying to answer, and take a breather. We'll figure it out, but not like this.
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Postby The Batorys » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:46 pm

Bearon wrote:
The Batorys wrote:This is a medieval/ancient polytheist society.

People in such societies would tend to assume that gods can and will smite them.

Not only that, this is a society in which some of the gods clearly do exist, unambiguously so.

You are basically insisting, once again, that your character is a complete idiot.


Every post you have made for the last 20 minutes have been antagonistic in the most extreme I ask that you please stop.

Now that that's done my character lived in a town of peasants who were treated harshly by people who were supposed followers of Mauro. Grey does not know the capabilities of these gods as a priest would. That being said he should have some knowledge of their capabilities and how real they are but we never specified the people's feeling towards the gods and what they're overall stance might be.

I am beyond the point of trying to be cordial.

Earlier you insisted on making things happen your way despite it being totally out of character for TBP's characters.

If when you asked "can you kill gods?" you had been satisfied when multiple people answered "No, you can't," that would have been one thing.

But you have argued insistently that you should be allowed to use the OOC rule against gods interfering to your IC advantage.

Your whining that you should be allowed to metagame has completely worn out my patience. So no, I'm not going to sugar-coat shit for you. Your bullshit already made the most reasonable person in this entire thread so fed up that they left.
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Postby Bearon » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:47 pm

Elerian wrote:Are you people fucking serious? I leave for five god damn minutes and then one of our pivotal players leaves? Did anyone stop and think for a moment about what they were about to post. Bearon you're continually asking questions that don't even matter. Why the fuck would you want to kill a god? Not only is it nonsensical but its also impossible for any one person to do alone. I already said they have no dealings in the lives of others they just simply, are.

Yoite I don't see why you can't just ignore Bearon and stay on with us? Respond to his shit in the IC from time to time and that's the most interaction you have to have with Bearon if that is your wish. And while the rest of you are just telling everyone else your opinions on something that doesn't matter why don't you help out for a minute and make everyone calm the fuck down until I arrive? Is that so much to ask?


The questions do matter.
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Postby Yoite » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:47 pm

Elerian wrote:Are you people fucking serious? I leave for five god damn minutes and then one of our pivotal players leaves? Did anyone stop and think for a moment about what they were about to post. Bearon you're continually asking questions that don't even matter. Why the fuck would you want to kill a god? Not only is it nonsensical but its also impossible for any one person to do alone. I already said they have no dealings in the lives of others they just simply, are.

Yoite I don't see why you can't just ignore Bearon and stay on with us? Respond to his shit in the IC from time to time and that's the most interaction you have to have with Bearon if that is your wish. And while the rest of you are just telling everyone else your opinions on something that doesn't matter why don't you help out for a minute and make everyone calm the fuck down until I arrive? Is that so much to ask?


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Postby Bearon » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:48 pm

Terintania wrote:
Bearon wrote:Me neither. What was your suggestion?


Bearon wrote:We still need to figure out if God's can interfere directly or not. This will definitely effect what we can and can't do in the RP as god's would certainly interfere if they saw their people getting beaten.

Look I know a brought up a complicated question nobody knows the answer to and you're all scared and frustrated but it's a valid one.



Terintania wrote:How about this. If something seems to start growing in to an argument, everyone just stops. Regardless of whether the question is fully answered, everyone stops and takes a breather. Hell, I'll even be a 'moderator' and tell people when they should stop if anyone thinks it would help.


So basically, everyone calm down and stop it. Stop with the question, or trying to answer, and take a breather. We'll figure it out, but not like this.


Sounds good. I'm going to go get some water.
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Postby Great Empire of Gamilus » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:49 pm

The Batorys wrote:
Great Empire of Gamilus wrote:Everyone, what did I say before, cute stuff and try to calm down...

Tali would not want us fighting..

That picture makes me feel funny.


I know that feeling, its somewhere between horror/curiosity and "hmmmm, not sure if I want to tap it."

Bearon wrote:
We still need to figure out if God's can interfere directly or not. This will definitely effect what we can and can't do in the RP as god's would certainly interfere if they saw their people getting beaten.

Look I know a brought up a complicated question nobody knows the answer to and you're all scared and frustrated but it's a valid one.


No we have solved the issue by stating (even from the Co-Op) that gods cannot directly interfere in the mortal realm. Now I am not arguing about this anymore, I will be posting cute/sexy Quarian pictures till I have control of your minds everyone calmed.



Elerian wrote:Are you people fucking serious? I leave for five god damn minutes and then one of our pivotal players leaves? Did anyone stop and think for a moment about what they were about to post. Bearon you're continually asking questions that don't even matter. Why the fuck would you want to kill a god? Not only is it nonsensical but its also impossible for any one person to do alone. I already said they have no dealings in the lives of others they just simply, are.

Yoite I don't see why you can't just ignore Bearon and stay on with us? Respond to his shit in the IC from time to time and that's the most interaction you have to have with Bearon if that is your wish. And while the rest of you are just telling everyone else your opinions on something that doesn't matter why don't you help out for a minute and make everyone calm the fuck down until I arrive? Is that so much to ask?


... yeah ummmm...I got no excuse..
Do you hear the posters sing?
Singing the song of angry men?
It is the music of the short OP
that won't be seen again!

When the mods find this OP
Then this thread will be no more,
But the song will be sung again
When another comes!

OP, do you know the way?
Know the way to fix your post?
Just add details and sources to spark
Debate on these forums.

Otherwise this thread is doomed
Doomed to death by modly wrath
NSG will pick up and move on
'Till another comes!

--The Klishi Islands
a thread on Theism and Atheism

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Postby Elerian » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:50 pm

No the questions fucking don't Bearon. As I've said before why would you want to kill someone who is trying to help evil just so you can get a new toy. My patience is gone and i'm tired of your attitude. Like Balorys said everyone has answered your damn questions and then you persist on making things uncomfortable for everyone else just so you can do whatever the hell you want.

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