MASS EFFECT FACTIONS - FINAL OOC (OPEN)

[Kinistian]

Maybe like two in the whole galaxy

Then those two my friend, find them and train them, for they will be the champions of the Hanar race.

Hmmmmmmm

[Ralnis]

Then those two my friend, find them and train them, for they will be the champions of the Hanar race.

Hmmmmmmm

Is a joke anyway. Still will be awesome to see though.

[Kinistian]

Hmmmmmmm

Is a joke anyway. Still will be awesome to see though.

I might do it

[Great Empire of Gamilus]

Sorry for not posting, will type up a long one before I take a quick 3 day break.

[Segmentia]

Well, that wad unexpected...

[Eridanus 3]

Couple of things for consensus discussion about the current situation before I reply:

A: I was under the impression that unless a ship specifically had the upgrade, that shielding was a sort of costly rarity reserved for larger or specialty vessels. Gathered this impression from both in game codex info, and the fact that every fleet action cut scenes you see conventional weapons striking home unhindered on hulls all the time. Am I wrong/alone in this thinking?

B: Not trying to be mean/rude here, but I would have thought that realistically a shuttle with no armor or shields would have been blasted to hell and back twice over with a single shot from a ME Cannon, let alone a sustained volley from a couple of cannons firing in sequential tandem. Don't think it would have realistically survived long enough for a Light Cruiser to physically move into position and block for it at the ranges currently discussed in the IC.. where the light cruiser was supposed to be "1.5 thousand kilos out'' from the shuttle. Converted, that's 932.057 Miles from the shuttle. That's a pretty long distance to cover is literally seconds for a light cruiser. I can see maybe a frigate, as they are the fastest ships in the game, but still.

C: E3, you do realize that by canon, you have absolutely zero legal jurisdiction over CDEM, right? Quite literally, from a legal standpoint, you don't have a single leg to stand on and you're threats of legal action hold no real weight here.

A. I never mentioned what type of shielding the ship had, but it is assumed that it has standard kinetic barriers. I was under the impression that these shields could be bolstered with tweaks to the ships reactor lines, comparable to the Geth Shield Boost, Fortification, and Barrier Powers in ME3 (albeit on a MUCH larger scale)

B. Not necessarily, going at maximum sub-FTL speeds would greatly close this distance, and the Krogan Shuttle (I believe) was heading toward me at that point...

C. By cannon sources, this is all I can confirm. My source is the wiki, and the following is cut-and-paste: "The Council Demilitarization Enforcement Mission (CDEM) was created in accordance with the armistice that ended the Krogan Rebellions. Based at Pildea Station, CDEM's patrols oversee the entire Krogan Demilitarized Zone. CDEM logs all ships passing through the DMZ and has the right to board and search them at any time and for any reason. Under the armistice, CDEM is responsible for ensuring that the krogan do not obtain starship-mounted weapons; the penalty for smuggling these weapons is punishable by death by spacing.
CDEM operates battlestations in orbit above Tuchanka and manages the planetary shroud which prevents Tuchanka's surface from heating to inhospitable levels. CDEM also enforces a quarantine around the debris field of Rothla, and maintains a small garrison at Ruam's helium-3 mining stations to prevent the sale of fuel to criminal elements."

Thus you have a two-way issue here. Technically you have a right to search and seize my vessel. However, you only have the right to open fire when I refuse to do so, the Alliance ship was never ordered to prepare to "dock at said co-ordinates" or something, only the shuttle. Which technically could be blasted away at. Diplomats do seem to have some sort of immunity to this, but I agree there is a definite limit to it. On the other hand, I would argue that the CDEM repsonds to commands by any and all Councilors, and they only cease to follow these commands when another Councilor stalls or contradicts them. In that way, I have a ability not to travel unmolested, but to not have my "right to travel" infringed. Get my drift?

However, it could be seen that I was harboring terrorists at the time (or something like that because of shielding the shuttle), so the commander would enforce said protocols including destroying the ship. Thus, the Captain is to blame for being stupid, and you are to blame for blowing up mah ship. Good times, yes?

[Eridanus 3]

Well, that wad unexpected...

We're just keeping tensions high. Something has to propel the RP forward, and I suppose the Krogan and I decided this would be it.

[Lunas Legion]

Except that if the Turians claimed you were going to sell the ship to the Krogan (why else would you be piloting a warship into the DMZ without asking permission from the relevant authorities?), then they have the right to destroy said warship.

[Liecthenbourg]

Well, that wad unexpected...

Popcorn, anyone?

[Lunas Legion]

Well, that wad unexpected...

Popcorn, anyone?

I don't think I'm being paid to fight this war, so yes.

[Liecthenbourg]

Popcorn, anyone?

I don't think I'm being paid to fight this war, so yes.

-begins to hand out popcorn-
10 Credits says the Turians will win.

[Eridanus 3]

Oh and while I triple post here...

Tristates... Stop sneaking in the movie references already!!!

"And another item: I will be proud, to lead you warriors into battle. At anytime, anywhere..that is all."

I could swear to the moon and stars that this line was taken directly from the movie Patton. You are a evil bastard who will make me watch every movie I own won't you?

Except that if the Turians claimed you were going to sell the ship to the Krogan (why else would you be piloting a warship into the DMZ without asking permission from the relevant authorities?), then they have the right to destroy said warship.

Diplomats...
Some very ignorant person wanting to see the homeworld of the Krogan...
Anybody...

Honestly... Why... The... Hell... I don't even have enough dreadnoughts, not to mention a 360 frigate screen!!! Ummm.... Yea... I have no reason to see ships to Krogans. Yet. Maybe when it becomes legal. And I get enough ships.

I don't think I'm being paid to fight this war, so yes.

Would you like to be paid to fight this war?

[Lunas Legion]

Oh and while I triple post here...

Tristates... Stop sneaking in the movie references already!!!

"And another item: I will be proud, to lead you warriors into battle. At anytime, anywhere..that is all."

I could swear to the moon and stars that this line was taken directly from the movie Patton. You are a evil bastard who will make me watch every movie I own won't you?

Except that if the Turians claimed you were going to sell the ship to the Krogan (why else would you be piloting a warship into the DMZ without asking permission from the relevant authorities?), then they have the right to destroy said warship.

Diplomats...
Some very ignorant person wanting to see the homeworld of the Krogan...
Anybody...

Honestly... Why... The... Hell... I don't even have enough dreadnoughts, not to mention a 360 frigate screen!!! Ummm.... Yea... I have no reason to see ships to Krogans. Yet. Maybe when it becomes legal. And I get enough ships.

I don't think I'm being paid to fight this war, so yes.

Would you like to be paid to fight this war?

I'd need to be paid a very large amount to fight this war on your side.

[Eridanus 3]

I'd need to be paid a very large amount to fight this war on your side.

Next month's 392 credit paycheck?
(I will edit if that number was wrong...)

[Lunas Legion]

I'd need to be paid a very large amount to fight this war on your side.

Next month's 392 credit paycheck?
(I will edit if that number was wrong...)

That'll do nicely.

[Eridanus 3]

Next month's 392 credit paycheck?
(I will edit if that number was wrong...)

That'll do nicely.

Win my war for money!
Perhaps could I give you a 332 credit paycheck? Could mission still be (a) go?

[Lunas Legion]

That'll do nicely.

Win my war for money!
Perhaps could I give you a 332 credit paycheck? Could mission still be (a) go?

Nope. I'll need those 392 credits to fund my own war machine to win the war.

[Eridanus 3]

At least Eri knows to go out with a bang

Either that, or I wasn't clear enough that I was just trying to disable the ship and not destroy it.

That being said, TS.. just a friendly heads up, those two generic Turian "Prisoners" you have had nothing to do with this incident, with one being a liaison from C-Sec. Them being held captive more then likely wont go over very well.

No you were quite clear. However, lying dead in space with minimal power control (Because the damn bridge got blown off. Damn.) kinda is pointless. SOOO I said

Fuck it! Let's go down to the planet and RP the lives of the survivors... Assuming we still have survivors."

[Eridanus 3]

Win my war for money!
Perhaps could I give you a 332 credit paycheck? Could mission still be (a) go?

Nope. I'll need those 392 credits to fund my own war machine to win the war.

Is you sure you don't wants a Dreadnoughts?

Also we aren't at war. Yet. But we are. But Not.

There is a Cold War type thing going on. Are you please Paddy? Or do you want me to justify your sacking of Earth?

[Lunas Legion]

Nope. I'll need those 392 credits to fund my own war machine to win the war.

Is you sure you don't wants a Dreadnoughts?

Also we aren't at war. Yet. But we are. But Not.

There is a Cold War type thing going on. Are you please Paddy? Or do you want me to justify your sacking of Earth?

I'll take Dreads/other ships in place of credits as well.

Edit: Up to tha value. Pile me some ships/credits equal to 392 credits in value, and Eclipse will join your war.

[Eridanus 3]

Is you sure you don't wants a Dreadnoughts?

Also we aren't at war. Yet. But we are. But Not.

There is a Cold War type thing going on. Are you please Paddy? Or do you want me to justify your sacking of Earth?

I'll take Dreads/other ships in place of credits as well.

Yea... Other councilors would have my ass for that. I'm just going to pay you.

[Lunas Legion]

I'll take Dreads/other ships in place of credits as well.

Yea... Other councilors would have my ass for that. I'm just going to pay you.

Doesn't have to be dreads. I'll take battlecrusiers/carriers/other crusiers as payment as well.

[Eridanus 3]

Yea... Other councilors would have my ass for that. I'm just going to pay you.

Doesn't have to be dreads. I'll take battlecrusiers/carriers/other crusiers as payment as well.

See above. It is still true.

[Lunas Legion]

Doesn't have to be dreads. I'll take battlecrusiers/carriers/other crusiers as payment as well.

See above. It is still true.

Doesn't really matter. It's payment in material rather than cash.

And whoever said they'd know? Just bring them round through the Terminus or drop them on Omega, I can take them from there.

[TriStates]

Couple of things for consensus discussion about the current situation before I reply:

A: I was under the impression that unless a ship specifically had the upgrade, that shielding was a sort of costly rarity reserved for larger or specialty vessels. Gathered this impression from both in game codex info, and the fact that every fleet action cut scenes you see conventional weapons striking home unhindered on hulls all the time. Am I wrong/alone in this thinking?

B: Not trying to be mean/rude here, but I would have thought that realistically a shuttle with no armor or shields would have been blasted to hell and back twice over with a single shot from a ME Cannon, let alone a sustained volley from a couple of cannons firing in sequential tandem. Don't think it would have realistically survived long enough for a Light Cruiser to physically move into position and block for it at the ranges currently discussed in the IC.. where the light cruiser was supposed to be "1.5 thousand kilos out'' from the shuttle. Converted, that's 932.057 Miles from the shuttle. That's a pretty long distance to cover is literally seconds for a light cruiser. I can see maybe a frigate, as they are the fastest ships in the game, but still.

C: E3, you do realize that by canon, you have absolutely zero legal jurisdiction over CDEM, right? Quite literally, from a legal standpoint, you don't have a single leg to stand on and you're threats of legal action hold no real weight here.

A. I never mentioned what type of shielding the ship had, but it is assumed that it has standard kinetic barriers. I was under the impression that these shields could be bolstered with tweaks to the ships reactor lines, comparable to the Geth Shield Boost, Fortification, and Barrier Powers in ME3 (albeit on a MUCH larger scale)

B. Not necessarily, going at maximum sub-FTL speeds would greatly close this distance, and the Krogan Shuttle (I believe) was heading toward me at that point...

C. By cannon sources, this is all I can confirm. My source is the wiki, and the following is cut-and-paste: "The Council Demilitarization Enforcement Mission (CDEM) was created in accordance with the armistice that ended the Krogan Rebellions. Based at Pildea Station, CDEM's patrols oversee the entire Krogan Demilitarized Zone. CDEM logs all ships passing through the DMZ and has the right to board and search them at any time and for any reason. Under the armistice, CDEM is responsible for ensuring that the krogan do not obtain starship-mounted weapons; the penalty for smuggling these weapons is punishable by death by spacing.
CDEM operates battlestations in orbit above Tuchanka and manages the planetary shroud which prevents Tuchanka's surface from heating to inhospitable levels. CDEM also enforces a quarantine around the debris field of Rothla, and maintains a small garrison at Ruam's helium-3 mining stations to prevent the sale of fuel to criminal elements."

Thus you have a two-way issue here. Technically you have a right to search and seize my vessel. However, you only have the right to open fire when I refuse to do so, the Alliance ship was never ordered to prepare to "dock at said co-ordinates" or something, only the shuttle. Which technically could be blasted away at. Diplomats do seem to have some sort of immunity to this, but I agree there is a definite limit to it. On the other hand, I would argue that the CDEM repsonds to commands by any and all Councilors, and they only cease to follow these commands when another Councilor stalls or contradicts them. In that way, I have a ability not to travel unmolested, but to not have my "right to travel" infringed. Get my drift?

However, it could be seen that I was harboring terrorists at the time (or something like that because of shielding the shuttle), so the commander would enforce said protocols including destroying the ship. Thus, the Captain is to blame for being stupid, and you are to blame for blowing up mah ship. Good times, yes?

You'll be Wrex's attorney in any proceedings to follow

Oh and while I triple post here...

Tristates... Stop sneaking in the movie references already!!!

"And another item: I will be proud, to lead you warriors into battle. At anytime, anywhere..that is all."

I could swear to the moon and stars that this line was taken directly from the movie Patton. You are a evil bastard who will make me watch every movie I own won't you?

I went to the Hollywood school of RP. Ignore copyright, will travel