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Postby Illan » Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:19 am

Pssh, all you fancy Council types with your "diplomatics".
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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:20 am

Illan wrote:Pssh, all you fancy Council types with your "diplomatics".


I don't have diplomats. Because screw the rules, I have money.
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Illan wrote:Pssh, all you fancy Council types with your "diplomatics".

Hey Illan how do you like my shows,Video games, and books?
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:12 am

Couple of things for consensus discussion about the current situation before I reply:

A: I was under the impression that unless a ship specifically had the upgrade, that shielding was a sort of costly rarity reserved for larger or specialty vessels. Gathered this impression from both in game codex info, and the fact that every fleet action cut scenes you see conventional weapons striking home unhindered on hulls all the time. Am I wrong/alone in this thinking?

B: Not trying to be mean/rude here, but I would have thought that realistically a shuttle with no armor or shields would have been blasted to hell and back twice over with a single shot from a ME Cannon, let alone a sustained volley from a couple of cannons firing in sequential tandem. Don't think it would have realistically survived long enough for a Light Cruiser to physically move into position and block for it at the ranges currently discussed in the IC.. where the light cruiser was supposed to be "1.5 thousand kilos out'' from the shuttle. Converted, that's 932.057 Miles from the shuttle. That's a pretty long distance to cover is literally seconds for a light cruiser. I can see maybe a frigate, as they are the fastest ships in the game, but still.

C: E3, you do realize that by canon, you have absolutely zero legal jurisdiction over CDEM, right? Quite literally, from a legal standpoint, you don't have a single leg to stand on and you're threats of legal action hold no real weight here.

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Postby Lunas Legion » Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:16 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:Couple of things for consensus discussion about the current situation before I reply:

A: I was under the impression that unless a ship specifically had the upgrade, that shielding was a sort of costly rarity reserved for larger or specialty vessels. Gathered this impression from both in game codex info, and the fact that every fleet action cut scenes you see conventional weapons striking home unhindered on hulls all the time. Am I wrong/alone in this thinking?

B: Not trying to be mean/rude here, but I would have thought that realistically a shuttle with no armor or shields would have been blasted to hell and back twice over with a single shot from a ME Cannon, let alone a sustained volley from a couple of cannons firing in sequential tandem. Don't think it would have realistically survived long enough for a Light Cruiser to physically move into position and block for it at the ranges currently discussed in the IC.. where the light cruiser was supposed to be "1.5 thousand kilos out'' from the shuttle. Converted, that's 932.057 Miles from the shuttle. That's a pretty long distance to cover is literally seconds for a light cruiser. I can see maybe a frigate, as they are the fastest ships in the game, but still.

C: E3, you do realize that by canon, you have absolutely zero legal jurisdiction over CDEM, right? Quite literally, from a legal standpoint, you don't have a single leg to stand on and you're threats of legal action hold no real weight here.



1: All warships have barriers; at least, for most Council races. Pirates don't, and some warships might disable their barriers to divert more power to engines, but most if not all warships have barriers.

2: Depends. The shuttle is a long way out and is a very, very small target. If you sent interceptors out it'd be shredded, but against ME guns designed to take on frigates and larger? There's a chance it might survive.

3: This is true. The only people with authority over the CDEM are the Councilors, and only then when they all agree to do something.
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Postby Illan » Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:51 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:Couple of things for consensus discussion about the current situation before I reply:

A: I was under the impression that unless a ship specifically had the upgrade, that shielding was a sort of costly rarity reserved for larger or specialty vessels. Gathered this impression from both in game codex info, and the fact that every fleet action cut scenes you see conventional weapons striking home unhindered on hulls all the time. Am I wrong/alone in this thinking?

B: Not trying to be mean/rude here, but I would have thought that realistically a shuttle with no armor or shields would have been blasted to hell and back twice over with a single shot from a ME Cannon, let alone a sustained volley from a couple of cannons firing in sequential tandem. Don't think it would have realistically survived long enough for a Light Cruiser to physically move into position and block for it at the ranges currently discussed in the IC.. where the light cruiser was supposed to be "1.5 thousand kilos out'' from the shuttle. Converted, that's 932.057 Miles from the shuttle. That's a pretty long distance to cover is literally seconds for a light cruiser. I can see maybe a frigate, as they are the fastest ships in the game, but still.

C: E3, you do realize that by canon, you have absolutely zero legal jurisdiction over CDEM, right? Quite literally, from a legal standpoint, you don't have a single leg to stand on and you're threats of legal action hold no real weight here.



1: All warships have barriers; at least, for most Council races. Pirates don't, and some warships might disable their barriers to divert more power to engines, but most if not all warships have barriers.

2: Depends. The shuttle is a long way out and is a very, very small target. If you sent interceptors out it'd be shredded, but against ME guns designed to take on frigates and larger? There's a chance it might survive.

3: This is true. The only people with authority over the CDEM are the Councilors, and only then when they all agree to do something.


And on point three, that's pretty much never.
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Postby Seno Zhou Varada » Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:55 am

Illan how do you like the new video game ICly I produced Quarian Liveship simulator or the tv shows Life on the Flotilla
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Postby TriStates » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:11 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:Couple of things for consensus discussion about the current situation before I reply:

A: I was under the impression that unless a ship specifically had the upgrade, that shielding was a sort of costly rarity reserved for larger or specialty vessels. Gathered this impression from both in game codex info, and the fact that every fleet action cut scenes you see conventional weapons striking home unhindered on hulls all the time. Am I wrong/alone in this thinking?

B: Not trying to be mean/rude here, but I would have thought that realistically a shuttle with no armor or shields would have been blasted to hell and back twice over with a single shot from a ME Cannon, let alone a sustained volley from a couple of cannons firing in sequential tandem. Don't think it would have realistically survived long enough for a Light Cruiser to physically move into position and block for it at the ranges currently discussed in the IC.. where the light cruiser was supposed to be "1.5 thousand kilos out'' from the shuttle. Converted, that's 932.057 Miles from the shuttle. That's a pretty long distance to cover is literally seconds for a light cruiser. I can see maybe a frigate, as they are the fastest ships in the game, but still.

C: E3, you do realize that by canon, you have absolutely zero legal jurisdiction over CDEM, right? Quite literally, from a legal standpoint, you don't have a single leg to stand on and you're threats of legal action hold no real weight here.


1) That was pretty well explained by Lunas.

2) I agree, and don't apologize for being right. Hitting any shuttle with ME cannon would be like swatting a mosquito with a table. Wham. Splat. Of course, like Lunas points out, the shuttle is a small, fast target that has sufficent distance from the Battlestation. Like the table and the mosquito, the trick is trying to hit the agile bastard. As for the interceptors, yeah, I'd pretty much be well fucked.

I don't want to argue math, so I'll just say this and see if we can get consensus. My shuttle was stated as 5 minutes out from arrival to the relay, by your first post as the Turian Deathstar. The SSV Berlin exited the relay a minute max or so after (estimated IC time) the palaver happened between the Deathstar and my puddle jumper. Time given between the Deathstar commander giving firing orders, all the while the two ships are closing distance, it isn't that far-fetched for Eri to state that my shuttle had enough time to hug on to the Crusiars barriers.

3) Yeah, even you couldn't get away with that Eri :lol2:

As for my next post, I'm going to think about it a while as I write it out. I'll be sure to be fair to both parties. Maybe not a complete victory for the ol' Turians, but neither the Krogan or Alliance would get away unscathed. Savvy?
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Postby Illan » Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:33 pm

Seno Zhou Varada wrote:Illan how do you like the new video game ICly I produced Quarian Liveship simulator or the tv shows Life on the Flotilla


We're suing you for misrepresentation and slander, as no outsiders have stepped foot in the Fleet. And for the use of the word "suit rat".
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Postby Seno Zhou Varada » Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:02 pm

Illan wrote:
Seno Zhou Varada wrote:Illan how do you like the new video game ICly I produced Quarian Liveship simulator or the tv shows Life on the Flotilla


We're suing you for misrepresentation and slander, as no outsiders have stepped foot in the Fleet. And for the use of the word "suit rat".

We don't say suit rat... we say awesome suit mice...

And for our information ever heard of Quarians getting stuck on pilgrimages? We give them a generous sum of credits in exhange for non-important things about the fleet no defenses or anything and culture of the Quarian people and we make it into games,books, and shows. However I'll explain. The novel Life in the Fleet is just based upon the word of those Quarians detailing culture and how some of their ships work and their general lives. Quarian liveship simulator is a plant grower sim with a small space aspect based on the pilgrimage info. Life in the Flotilla is basically the same as Life in the Fleet but is just videos of watching plants grow. Steve vas Irvin however we don't know how we get the footage just some Quarian sold us the footage.
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Postby Kinistian » Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:08 pm

Was I ever accepted as the Hanar player

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Postby TriStates » Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:10 pm

I would send a message to Istan. I can't tell from the posts Nuxipal made if your accepted or not.
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Postby Nuxipal » Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:14 pm

Kinistian wrote:Was I ever accepted as the Hanar player


Go for it mate. At worst you will have to alter your app.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:36 pm

Well that was... unexpected. Was honestly just trying to disable the ship here, not destroy it.

:shock:

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Postby TriStates » Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:57 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:Well that was... unexpected. Was honestly just trying to disable the ship here, not destroy it.

:shock:


:rofl: At least Eri knows to go out with a bang
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:02 pm

TriStates wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:Well that was... unexpected. Was honestly just trying to disable the ship here, not destroy it.

:shock:


:rofl: At least Eri knows to go out with a bang


Either that, or I wasn't clear enough that I was just trying to disable the ship and not destroy it.

That being said, TS.. just a friendly heads up, those two generic Turian "Prisoners" you have had nothing to do with this incident, with one being a liaison from C-Sec. Them being held captive more then likely wont go over very well.

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The hell just happened with the Krogans and Turians?
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:08 pm

Ralnis wrote:The hell just happened with the Krogans and Turians?


If it makes you feel any better, I'm still trying to figure it out myself.

Though as it stands, a couple of Citadel personal completely unrelated to the current events are now being held prisoner on Tuchanka for no apparent reason.

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Postby Nuxipal » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:11 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Ralnis wrote:The hell just happened with the Krogans and Turians?


If it makes you feel any better, I'm still trying to figure it out myself.

Though as it stands, a couple of Citadel personal completely unrelated to the current events are now being held prisoner on Tuchanka for no apparent reason.


Sounds like you need some Asari assistance.. for the very low fee of 10 dreadnoughts we can take care of this little.. Krogan problem you are having.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:15 pm

Nuxipal wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
If it makes you feel any better, I'm still trying to figure it out myself.

Though as it stands, a couple of Citadel personal completely unrelated to the current events are now being held prisoner on Tuchanka for no apparent reason.


Sounds like you need some Asari assistance.. for the very low fee of 10 dreadnoughts we can take care of this little.. Krogan problem you are having.


Or I could just use those same dreads, and add a fresh layer of radioactive rubble to the pile. :lol:

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Postby Ralnis » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:16 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Ralnis wrote:The hell just happened with the Krogans and Turians?


If it makes you feel any better, I'm still trying to figure it out myself.

Though as it stands, a couple of Citadel personal completely unrelated to the current events are now being held prisoner on Tuchanka for no apparent reason.

Glad I am looking towards places like Illium for contracts but I am still getting paid by the Krogan to protect their worlds of Wrill and Garvung.
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Postby Nuxipal » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:17 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Nuxipal wrote:
Sounds like you need some Asari assistance.. for the very low fee of 10 dreadnoughts we can take care of this little.. Krogan problem you are having.


Or I could just use those same dreads, and add a fresh layer of radioactive rubble to the pile. :lol:


If you want. But it would be so much easier to say: "Well the Krogan were misbehaving and then a shit ton of our Dreadnoughts were stolen and used to blast a hole through their rock. Then half were magically returned to us.
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Postby Ralnis » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:18 pm

Nuxipal wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Or I could just use those same dreads, and add a fresh layer of radioactive rubble to the pile. :lol:


If you want. But it would be so much easier to say: "Well the Krogan were misbehaving and then a shit ton of our Dreadnoughts were stolen and used to blast a hole through their rock. Then half were magically returned to us.

Don't do that! Wrex is still needed for the Reaper War( and the Blood Pack still need money).
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:20 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Nuxipal wrote:
If you want. But it would be so much easier to say: "Well the Krogan were misbehaving and then a shit ton of our Dreadnoughts were stolen and used to blast a hole through their rock. Then half were magically returned to us.

Don't do that! Wrex is still needed for the Reaper War( and the Blood Pack still need money).


Indeed. :blush:

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