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by The Underground Movement Union » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:31 pm

by BOS Capital Chapter » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:34 pm
Alouite wrote:BOS Capital Chapter wrote:Shepard sat down and covered his face with his palms. "You don't get it, Sam... so many lives... reaped by my hand. I've only known this world for 4 years, and I've seen more hell than most". Shepard stood up restlessly. "Amata... I loved her... I killed her Dad...".
"Maybe you need to stop killing people then. I have no idea why you'd kill your friends father, even if he was horrible I would've forgiven him, but you seem to be a bit more violent than most. But you aren't horrible, only a bit unstable. Look, I saw shit too. I saw my father and younger brother's head explode from shotgun fire in front of me. I saw my mother get ripped to shreds by a missile, I saw my uncle get shot up. Later in Freeside a gang decapitated all the adults and some of the kids left in our group of refugees, did anyone help us? No. Later I moved to Black Mountain and we became raiders, we didn't kill people, but we stole because thats what we thought the damn world was, then the Nightkin move in and slaughter the men and women I had learned to call brothers and sisters, those I felt were a new family, killed, ripped, impaled..." Sam started to have bad memories and started shaking but stopped himself. "I know what hell is like, I have had all I know torn from me, even now only four people care for me, and they all may never come back. I am not some little kid who runs around playing conquest and king of the hill here Shepard, I worked for these people even though they have attacked, maimed, threatened and try to kill me all my life. Back in the vault when I was a toddler, there was a revolt, I never met my grandparents and a new Overseer took over. From then on people started getting taken to the Box, I never understood it as a child but it was a torture device in the lower levels, my parents came to my room some nights with scars and bloodstains for a small mistake at work. The nightmares even back then." Sam paused again. "I understand what hell is like. I do. I know what its like to kill. I have had to to survive. I have suffered all my life but still I stand up for the people of the Mojave, because if one day we can work our way up to that crappy standard of living from before the war, with ignorant and self interested people who look out for themselves in a capitalist world, it will be a million times better than this. And if we can do better than that, even making a more community based capitalist society with people looking out for one another, then I will have reached my goal."

by BOS Capital Chapter » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:39 pm
The Underground Movement Union wrote:"I have to feel some Sympathy for you Shepard... I haven't only been fighting the Legion for One year, this is my ninth year of war. I've seen shit too. Loved ones, innocents, freedom fighters, Heros, enemies, die, infront of me. I saw both my parents die infront of me. I was fifteen. I went through hell for three years, then, I went vigilante on their asses. Eight years of war, fighting alongside friends and mercenaries. I've seen shit too man... But after this long journey, I come to realize, vengeance.isn't what makes you happy. It's helping the ones who sympathize with you. The ones who you want to save, the ones who you can help prevent go through the horrors you've been through..." Josh said calmly, Hoping his message goes through.

by Alouite » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:16 pm
BOS Capital Chapter wrote:Alouite wrote:"Maybe you need to stop killing people then. I have no idea why you'd kill your friends father, even if he was horrible I would've forgiven him, but you seem to be a bit more violent than most. But you aren't horrible, only a bit unstable. Look, I saw shit too. I saw my father and younger brother's head explode from shotgun fire in front of me. I saw my mother get ripped to shreds by a missile, I saw my uncle get shot up. Later in Freeside a gang decapitated all the adults and some of the kids left in our group of refugees, did anyone help us? No. Later I moved to Black Mountain and we became raiders, we didn't kill people, but we stole because thats what we thought the damn world was, then the Nightkin move in and slaughter the men and women I had learned to call brothers and sisters, those I felt were a new family, killed, ripped, impaled..." Sam started to have bad memories and started shaking but stopped himself. "I know what hell is like, I have had all I know torn from me, even now only four people care for me, and they all may never come back. I am not some little kid who runs around playing conquest and king of the hill here Shepard, I worked for these people even though they have attacked, maimed, threatened and try to kill me all my life. Back in the vault when I was a toddler, there was a revolt, I never met my grandparents and a new Overseer took over. From then on people started getting taken to the Box, I never understood it as a child but it was a torture device in the lower levels, my parents came to my room some nights with scars and bloodstains for a small mistake at work. The nightmares even back then." Sam paused again. "I understand what hell is like. I do. I know what its like to kill. I have had to to survive. I have suffered all my life but still I stand up for the people of the Mojave, because if one day we can work our way up to that crappy standard of living from before the war, with ignorant and self interested people who look out for themselves in a capitalist world, it will be a million times better than this. And if we can do better than that, even making a more community based capitalist society with people looking out for one another, then I will have reached my goal."
Shepard jumped up at his words. "YOUR goal. YOU. You need to look at the bigger fucking picture. Its not about YOU. My father died to protect his work from the Enclave, and I nearly died to finish his work, hell I thought I WAS dead. Stuck in a chamber with lethal levels of radiation, looking into the eyes of who you love as you slide onto the floor..." Shepard began to waver. "Sacrifices are made, some good, some bad. I thought I was dead; I was ready to die so that EVERYONE could have a luxury I had in the Vault. All you fucking care about is ressurecting a dead nation. DEAD! America is lost! Democracy failed! Move on! Find a better system, a new one!".

by BOS Capital Chapter » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:27 pm
Alouite wrote:BOS Capital Chapter wrote:Shepard jumped up at his words. "YOUR goal. YOU. You need to look at the bigger fucking picture. Its not about YOU. My father died to protect his work from the Enclave, and I nearly died to finish his work, hell I thought I WAS dead. Stuck in a chamber with lethal levels of radiation, looking into the eyes of who you love as you slide onto the floor..." Shepard began to waver. "Sacrifices are made, some good, some bad. I thought I was dead; I was ready to die so that EVERYONE could have a luxury I had in the Vault. All you fucking care about is ressurecting a dead nation. DEAD! America is lost! Democracy failed! Move on! Find a better system, a new one!".
Sam for the first time looked angry. This man had bent his words like he knew where Sam was coming from. Now for the first time in years he spoke with anger behind his words. "Shepard. Fuck you. My Goal is to help the people of the Mojave, I already made a pact to myself. If the Mojave falls I die with it. Now you listen here mister know it all. I know you seem to love dictators, but that aint new either. Julius Caesar was a dictator, Hitler was a dictator, Stalin was a dictator, Mao, Chairman Cheng, the Enclave for crying out loud were damn Fascist dictator followers. Do you not see that you're system is as old as mine. But instead of the people you serve an idol, which is great until a new sick idol takes the old ones place. The United States was far from perfect but it was a hell lot better than this. Besides, I don't want the US back I want a new one, completely different from that of old, only bringing back old world qualities like politeness, kindness, things that don't exist in this world. I don't want to resurrect jack shit. I want to make something new Shepard. I don't wanna follow some dictator around until a bad one takes over. I wanna pick who rules, I wanna have a choice in what happens I already made this nation far from the US, we have direct elections, absolutely universal civil rights, we have healthcare for those unable to afford or make money for what they need. The US had none of that. We are better than the US because we are open minded. I am willing to kill myself at any moment should it help our movement, I stand for the people, that is my goal Shepard, the goal to have a land of equality, a land of freedom, a land of opportunity, but most of all a land where there is a chance for a bright future. So if you are done preaching your biased, prejudiced opinions to me like I'm a school boy let me know. By all means, because if you came here to try and assimilate me, you are no different than the Enclave that killed both of our parents, because just like them you refuse to even barely consider another mans opinion. I'm not saying I don't respect you for your life, but to give my free will to a single man for all his life. Never."

by Alouite » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:33 pm
BOS Capital Chapter wrote:Alouite wrote:Sam for the first time looked angry. This man had bent his words like he knew where Sam was coming from. Now for the first time in years he spoke with anger behind his words. "Shepard. Fuck you. My Goal is to help the people of the Mojave, I already made a pact to myself. If the Mojave falls I die with it. Now you listen here mister know it all. I know you seem to love dictators, but that aint new either. Julius Caesar was a dictator, Hitler was a dictator, Stalin was a dictator, Mao, Chairman Cheng, the Enclave for crying out loud were damn Fascist dictator followers. Do you not see that you're system is as old as mine. But instead of the people you serve an idol, which is great until a new sick idol takes the old ones place. The United States was far from perfect but it was a hell lot better than this. Besides, I don't want the US back I want a new one, completely different from that of old, only bringing back old world qualities like politeness, kindness, things that don't exist in this world. I don't want to resurrect jack shit. I want to make something new Shepard. I don't wanna follow some dictator around until a bad one takes over. I wanna pick who rules, I wanna have a choice in what happens I already made this nation far from the US, we have direct elections, absolutely universal civil rights, we have healthcare for those unable to afford or make money for what they need. The US had none of that. We are better than the US because we are open minded. I am willing to kill myself at any moment should it help our movement, I stand for the people, that is my goal Shepard, the goal to have a land of equality, a land of freedom, a land of opportunity, but most of all a land where there is a chance for a bright future. So if you are done preaching your biased, prejudiced opinions to me like I'm a school boy let me know. By all means, because if you came here to try and assimilate me, you are no different than the Enclave that killed both of our parents, because just like them you refuse to even barely consider another mans opinion. I'm not saying I don't respect you for your life, but to give my free will to a single man for all his life. Never."
"Democracy is a lie. It WAS great! Perfect! Then people got greedy! Democracy is a way to control people without them knowing! You KNOW that, giving them false hope that they have freedom. Your in this for yourself. You want to be idolized by these people, you want to be the Jesus Fucking Christ of the Mojave!"

by BOS Capital Chapter » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:37 pm
Alouite wrote:BOS Capital Chapter wrote:"Democracy is a lie. It WAS great! Perfect! Then people got greedy! Democracy is a way to control people without them knowing! You KNOW that, giving them false hope that they have freedom. Your in this for yourself. You want to be idolized by these people, you want to be the Jesus Fucking Christ of the Mojave!"
"You're pushing it Shepard. I work only for them and I mean it. If there was a way I could help and it harmed me. I would do it without a thought. However, Democracy may not successfully last forever, but what the fuck is the alternative. Worship a fucking dictator. I just wanna see what I can do for them, without a cause I will not know hoe to keep myself from suicide and I mean that. I don't want to be worshipped, I don't even believe in a religion because I am open minded and hell no I wouldn't want to be idolized like some kind of freak show. But dictatorship? Are you fucking kidding me? What kind of life is that for anyone? Sure they seem great at first but they too get greedy, and then they begin purges of all political rivals or create death camps for them. I will form a non aligned agency to crack down on government corruption because I believe the government needs to be regulated. What the hell is your problem with any of that?"

by The Underground Movement Union » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:38 pm

by Alouite » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:43 pm
BOS Capital Chapter wrote:Alouite wrote:"You're pushing it Shepard. I work only for them and I mean it. If there was a way I could help and it harmed me. I would do it without a thought. However, Democracy may not successfully last forever, but what the fuck is the alternative. Worship a fucking dictator. I just wanna see what I can do for them, without a cause I will not know hoe to keep myself from suicide and I mean that. I don't want to be worshipped, I don't even believe in a religion because I am open minded and hell no I wouldn't want to be idolized like some kind of freak show. But dictatorship? Are you fucking kidding me? What kind of life is that for anyone? Sure they seem great at first but they too get greedy, and then they begin purges of all political rivals or create death camps for them. I will form a non aligned agency to crack down on government corruption because I believe the government needs to be regulated. What the hell is your problem with any of that?"
"Things are GREAT in the east, and I have no problem with traditional freedoms, hell I insist that people express their minds, but Democracy is doomed to fail. Other nations have made the precautions you are planning, and failed. We have a new system in the East".

by BOS Capital Chapter » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:48 pm
Alouite wrote:BOS Capital Chapter wrote:"Things are GREAT in the east, and I have no problem with traditional freedoms, hell I insist that people express their minds, but Democracy is doomed to fail. Other nations have made the precautions you are planning, and failed. We have a new system in the East".
"You have a dictator, so things are bound to be great, but once a not so great one comes to power things could go to hell quickly. Democracy is only doomed to fail when those who seek to abuse it are not left in check. A Nuclear war ended all nations, Democracies, Monarchies, Theocracies and Dictatorships, they all fell with the atomic war, not from their own government system. And yet I agree a little, the pre war Democracy is wrong, thats why I am making sure we will protect it by setting laws to ensure government safety that cannot be repealed. The Government Order of Conduct and Behavior which will entail what is not allowed, along with it comes several yet to be made agencies that will help protect Democracy. If you don't wanna live in one go home. Because I have no problem with one existing, just know that I will never accept such a barbaric form of government."

by Alouite » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:51 pm
BOS Capital Chapter wrote:Alouite wrote:
"You have a dictator, so things are bound to be great, but once a not so great one comes to power things could go to hell quickly. Democracy is only doomed to fail when those who seek to abuse it are not left in check. A Nuclear war ended all nations, Democracies, Monarchies, Theocracies and Dictatorships, they all fell with the atomic war, not from their own government system. And yet I agree a little, the pre war Democracy is wrong, thats why I am making sure we will protect it by setting laws to ensure government safety that cannot be repealed. The Government Order of Conduct and Behavior which will entail what is not allowed, along with it comes several yet to be made agencies that will help protect Democracy. If you don't wanna live in one go home. Because I have no problem with one existing, just know that I will never accept such a barbaric form of government."
"It's not barbaric if you don't let it! The Brotherhood is the oldest faction in the wasteland, and our government has been the same. If we control who becomes Elder, then it can succeed".

by BOS Capital Chapter » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:54 pm
Alouite wrote:BOS Capital Chapter wrote:"It's not barbaric if you don't let it! The Brotherhood is the oldest faction in the wasteland, and our government has been the same. If we control who becomes Elder, then it can succeed".
"Just like we can control who is President. I will ensure that no corruption could possibly happen in the foreseeable future. Perhaps a challenge to see who's government will become corrupt first. However, an Elder represents his views, you need multiple people to represent multiple views. Oh and the paycheck for Senators and Presidents will only be equivalent to that of teachers once we open up a school." Sam replied.

by Alouite » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:57 pm
BOS Capital Chapter wrote:Alouite wrote:"Just like we can control who is President. I will ensure that no corruption could possibly happen in the foreseeable future. Perhaps a challenge to see who's government will become corrupt first. However, an Elder represents his views, you need multiple people to represent multiple views. Oh and the paycheck for Senators and Presidents will only be equivalent to that of teachers once we open up a school." Sam replied.
This is how OUR Brotherhood decides a leader. There is a Head Scribe, Head Paladin, and Elder. When the Elder is removed, he will have a will in which he chooses somebody worthy of serving as Elder, who may be the Head Paladin or Scribe, and under certain circumstances, an exeptional soldier. The Brotherhood is honor-bound to the Codex, so they're loyal"

by BOS Capital Chapter » Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:00 am
Alouite wrote:BOS Capital Chapter wrote:This is how OUR Brotherhood decides a leader. There is a Head Scribe, Head Paladin, and Elder. When the Elder is removed, he will have a will in which he chooses somebody worthy of serving as Elder, who may be the Head Paladin or Scribe, and under certain circumstances, an exeptional soldier. The Brotherhood is honor-bound to the Codex, so they're loyal"
"But what if they are willing to do unhonorable things to further the Brotherhood's goals, or try to find loopholes in the Codex allowing them to do unforgivable acts of evil in the name of preserving the Brotherhood?" Sam asked.

by Dernland » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:43 am

by BOS Capital Chapter » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:09 am
Dernland wrote:Ben was leaning in the doorway, listening to the argument unfolding before him. None of the rooms occupants had noticed him. he gave a little cough and said, "I don't really care what the rest of you do, we're striking the Legion."

by Dernland » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:12 am
BOS Capital Chapter wrote:Shepard turned. "Your gonna get slaughtered"

by BOS Capital Chapter » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:07 am

by Dernland » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:12 am

by The Underground Movement Union » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:14 am
Dernland wrote:"I told them they did not need to come if they did not want to, they refused to stay." Ben said, "They understand that if we do not do something war will start. Thousands of people on both sides will die. War never changes, men do."

by Unggoy Star Empire » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:21 am

by Alouite » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:23 am

by BOS Capital Chapter » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:32 am
Unggoy Star Empire wrote:Vault War Room
The "General" was floating in the War Room silently, as Kl-04 desperately tried to understand what Shepherd had informed him about. America is dead? He couldn't believe it. And besides, America is the great nation in the world..right? And..he wasn't the President. He couldn't fathom the concept of his whole World being a lie. But..Shepherd was still the Commander, regardless. He would still lead his Armies into Battle for him. This changed nothing in the Command Chain.

by The Underground Movement Union » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:08 am

by Alouite » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:27 am
The Underground Movement Union wrote:Joshua sighed. "Samuel, it's just a couple squads we're sending to help Ben. The Union has a military larger, better trained, and better armed than the NCR. We don't want to be the ones who the MU-NCR conflict. We have soldiers holding the border between the NCR and MU. But if you really insist, we won't attack The Legion."
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