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Who should Be President

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Daybreak Party - Samuel W. Hughes
7
39%
Conservative Party - Richard W Stanford
3
17%
Market-Liberal Party - Hank U Overseer
1
6%
Nationalist Party - Abraham G Ways
5
28%
Socialist Party - Simon F Reese
1
6%
Mojave Party - Francis D Carver
1
6%
 
Total votes : 18

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Postby BOS Capital Chapter » Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:19 pm

Dernland wrote:"So I guess I can go through, or do I need a password?" Benjamin said staring the Hellfire soldier straight in the eyes. He was a little intimidated, but when you've wandered the wastes not much can scare you.

Probably a minute passed before the tall one spoke in a booming, deep voice. "You're a guest in our home. Cause any trouble, and I'll personally throw you off Hoover Dam. Proceed".

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Postby The Underground Movement Union » Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:42 pm

Joshua spoke, "Just so you know Shepard, a small navy force is going to hit Legion territory in West Colorado. We plan on at first doing reconnaissance, we'll see what we can do from there. Think you could send us any reinforcements?"
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Postby BOS Capital Chapter » Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:51 pm

The Underground Movement Union wrote:Joshua spoke, "Just so you know Shepard, a small navy force is going to hit Legion territory in West Colorado. We plan on at first doing reconnaissance, we'll see what we can do from there. Think you could send us any reinforcements?"

"We've been conducting raids on Legion towns and bringing the slaves here, where they can create a life, you want us to pour resources into a wa with an enemy we already beat?"

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Postby Alouite » Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:53 pm

Sam smiled and said. "I would directly assist, but I need to know how many men it will take to secure the region. By the way, we are working for the same cause, so I suggest integration. I don't know what changes you'll want to my decisions thus far such as the formation of an Army and Home Guard, the establishment of several government agencies and guard posts along with our HQ in the NCR Embassy, but if you agree with my decisions so far I can proceed as I have until the Election. Speaking of which, do we have to wait for New Years, because our government is too decentralized for my taste, it is so much so that there are probably areas that don't acknowledge our authority in our own lands. As for the Legion I suggest that this time we annex their lands across the Colorado and liberate them as Mojave Districts."
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Postby BOS Capital Chapter » Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:56 pm

Alouite wrote:Sam smiled and said. "I would directly assist, but I need to know how many men it will take to secure the region. By the way, we are working for the same cause, so I suggest integration. I don't know what changes you'll want to my decisions thus far such as the formation of an Army and Home Guard, the establishment of several government agencies and guard posts along with our HQ in the NCR Embassy, but if you agree with my decisions so far I can proceed as I have until the Election. Speaking of which, do we have to wait for New Years, because our government is too decentralized for my taste, it is so much so that there are probably areas that don't acknowledge our authority in our own lands. As for the Legion I suggest that this time we annex their lands across the Colorado and liberate them as Mojave Districts."

Shepard shook his head and slammed his hand down. ENOUGH!" he yelled, standing up. "Have you two learned nothing? You just liberated your home, and not you're going to jeopardize it for some tribes in Colorado? Fix the problems here before creating new ones!"

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Postby Alouite » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:01 pm

BOS Capital Chapter wrote:
Alouite wrote:Sam smiled and said. "I would directly assist, but I need to know how many men it will take to secure the region. By the way, we are working for the same cause, so I suggest integration. I don't know what changes you'll want to my decisions thus far such as the formation of an Army and Home Guard, the establishment of several government agencies and guard posts along with our HQ in the NCR Embassy, but if you agree with my decisions so far I can proceed as I have until the Election. Speaking of which, do we have to wait for New Years, because our government is too decentralized for my taste, it is so much so that there are probably areas that don't acknowledge our authority in our own lands. As for the Legion I suggest that this time we annex their lands across the Colorado and liberate them as Mojave Districts."

Shepard shook his head and slammed his hand down. ENOUGH!" he yelled, standing up. "Have you two learned nothing? You just liberated your home, and not you're going to jeopardize it for some tribes in Colorado? Fix the problems here before creating new ones!"

Sam frowned "You are so aggressive it amazes me. If you had listened at all I am doing just that. Setting up security checkpoints here. He is leading an offensive force. With hope we can save the people currently oppressed and brainwashed by the Legion from utterly disgusting standards of living. You know how you hate the Enclave, well, the Legion is worse because even if you are one of them they will kill you just for surviving a failed mission or being in a captured city. They are sick foul men who seek to enslave us all. If you remember I was the one who gave this Embassy and the Medical Corps the Gomorrah casino, I could've turned it into a storage facility for weapons or sold it to a new owner, so watch yourself because you are no better than us, just because you are born in the East and are a member of the Brotherhood makes you any bit superior to us."
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Postby BOS Capital Chapter » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:04 pm

Alouite wrote:
BOS Capital Chapter wrote:Shepard shook his head and slammed his hand down. ENOUGH!" he yelled, standing up. "Have you two learned nothing? You just liberated your home, and not you're going to jeopardize it for some tribes in Colorado? Fix the problems here before creating new ones!"

Sam frowned "You are so aggressive it amazes me. If you had listened at all I am doing just that. Setting up security checkpoints here. He is leading an offensive force. With hope we can save the people currently oppressed and brainwashed by the Legion from utterly disgusting standards of living. You know how you hate the Enclave, well, the Legion is worse because even if you are one of them they will kill you just for surviving a failed mission or being in a captured city. They are sick foul men who seek to enslave us all. If you remember I was the one who gave this Embassy and the Medical Corps the Gomorrah casino, I could've turned it into a storage facility for weapons or sold it to a new owner, so watch yourself because you are no better than us, just because you are born in the East and are a member of the Brotherhood makes you any bit superior to us."

Shepard grunted. "I wasn't BORN into the Brotherhood, I was born in a Vault and earned my place among them. The Legion will pay, in time, but don't exhausted the few resources you have. Let us continue Operation Cartweel. We'll keep their morale low and their people wanting revolution"

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Postby Alouite » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:09 pm

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Alouite wrote:Sam frowned "You are so aggressive it amazes me. If you had listened at all I am doing just that. Setting up security checkpoints here. He is leading an offensive force. With hope we can save the people currently oppressed and brainwashed by the Legion from utterly disgusting standards of living. You know how you hate the Enclave, well, the Legion is worse because even if you are one of them they will kill you just for surviving a failed mission or being in a captured city. They are sick foul men who seek to enslave us all. If you remember I was the one who gave this Embassy and the Medical Corps the Gomorrah casino, I could've turned it into a storage facility for weapons or sold it to a new owner, so watch yourself because you are no better than us, just because you are born in the East and are a member of the Brotherhood makes you any bit superior to us."

Shepard grunted. "I wasn't BORN into the Brotherhood, I was born in a Vault and earned my place among them. The Legion will pay, in time, but don't exhausted the few resources you have. Let us continue Operation Cartweel. We'll keep their morale low and their people wanting revolution"

Sam was unimpressed. "I never said you were born into jack shit Shepard. I just want you to calm down and not explode on us like that, since you are a man of power in a potentially threatening faction that we were lucky enough to have gained support from, it doesn't feel right from our side of the situation. What you don't understand is that we have resources, we only need to acquire them further, the Mojave has an epic amount of science scattered about, with luck we might rise to or past the standards of the old world, after all, what I have seen... Nevermind, my point is, We aren't weak, we need time. I know that, however waiting for a brainwashed mass to rise against its ruler is not very good for a people who were just in the same situation, the people of Colorado will see us as self serving and not there to help them, then chances of unity will be lost."
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Postby BOS Capital Chapter » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:12 pm

Alouite wrote:
BOS Capital Chapter wrote:Shepard grunted. "I wasn't BORN into the Brotherhood, I was born in a Vault and earned my place among them. The Legion will pay, in time, but don't exhausted the few resources you have. Let us continue Operation Cartweel. We'll keep their morale low and their people wanting revolution"

Sam was unimpressed. "I never said you were born into jack shit Shepard. I just want you to calm down and not explode on us like that, since you are a man of power in a potentially threatening faction that we were lucky enough to have gained support from, it doesn't feel right from our side of the situation. What you don't understand is that we have resources, we only need to acquire them further, the Mojave has an epic amount of science scattered about, with luck we might rise to or past the standards of the old world, after all, what I have seen... Nevermind, my point is, We aren't weak, we need time. I know that, however waiting for a brainwashed mass to rise against its ruler is not very good for a people who were just in the same situation, the people of Colorado will see us as self serving and not there to help them, then chances of unity will be lost."

Shepard leaned against the table and sighed. "War Never Changes..." he said, and those words made history. "Send your men, we will assist. If this doesn't work, it's your ass"

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Postby The Underground Movement Union » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:14 pm

Josh sighed, "Shepard, we're free. We're safe. We have the resources and the military now to attack and free Colorado, and the military to defend and keep our homeland free. Colorado NEEDS us. We can't save everyone, true, but we should save as many people as we can when given the Chance. I get what you've been through, we get you're still fighting the Legion, we have the resources to fight the Legion just like you do. Plus, the Legion is Our greatest enemy right now. We Must make sure they're destroyed so,they can never come back. We need to save these people. Our homeland is just fine right now, we can multi task, Shepard." Joshua said pretty calmly. "Look at the FVA, Shepard, we were able to make a Navy, a powerful and well trained military, a police force, an organized government, and a powerful enough arsenal. We beat the Legion back before the BoS arrived. We can fight for ourselves and others."
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Postby BOS Capital Chapter » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:19 pm

The Underground Movement Union wrote:Josh sighed, "Shepard, we're free. We're safe. We have the resources and the military now to attack and free Colorado, and the military to defend and keep our homeland free. Colorado NEEDS us. We can't save everyone, true, but we should save as many people as we can when given the Chance. I get what you've been through, we get you're still fighting the Legion, we have the resources to fight the Legion just like you do. Plus, the Legion is Our greatest enemy right now. We Must make sure they're destroyed so,they can never come back. We need to save these people. Our homeland is just fine right now, we can multi task, Shepard." Joshua said pretty calmly. "Look at the FVA, Shepard, we were able to make a Navy, a powerful and well trained military, a police force, an organized government, and a powerful enough arsenal. We beat the Legion back before the BoS arrived. We can fight for ourselves and others."

Shepard sighed again. "You're being greedy, Joshua. You're making the same mistakes as the NCR. Just expanding. You need to pace yourself like the Brotherhood is doing in the east. I should have known that freedom would just make you guys greedy and want more..."

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Postby The Underground Movement Union » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:28 pm

"We don't want to take Colorado. We want to free them from the Legion. Maybe later we can unite, but for now we will stick with Nevada. How is wanting to make others free greedy? That's like saying giving out civil rights is authoritarian! Plus, like I said,,we don't want to expand yet."
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Postby Alouite » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:31 pm

The Underground Movement Union wrote:"We don't want to take Colorado. We want to free them from the Legion. Maybe later we can unite, but for now we will stick with Nevada. How is wanting to make others free greedy? That's like saying giving out civil rights is authoritarian! Plus, like I said,,we don't want to expand yet."

"Very true, we only want to free the people who have to suffer under Legion law every day be alleviated from the pain of living in a hellish society. We want to help them, not only eventually unify, but first allow them to feel true freedom, only then will we begin unification talks." Sam added.
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Postby BOS Capital Chapter » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:32 pm

The Underground Movement Union wrote:"We don't want to take Colorado. We want to free them from the Legion. Maybe later we can unite, but for now we will stick with Nevada. How is wanting to make others free greedy? That's like saying giving out civil rights is authoritarian! Plus, like I said,,we don't want to expand yet."

Shepard began to mock them in a funny voice. "Let's 'help' these people, then take them over! Yeah! Great plan! Let's do that!". Shepard returned to his normal voice while brushing dirt of his Vault 101 Jumpsuit. "First its to free oppression, then it's something else, then something else. The same thing happened to the NCR, the United States, the world! You know why democracy never works? Corruption! That WILL happen here if you don't ditch that plan NOW".

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Postby The Underground Movement Union » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:38 pm

Joshua chuckles at the voice. "Look man, I get your point. But, we can't abandon them. We have to help. We aren't expanding into them, we don't plan to forcefully take them over,.we don't plan to let some socialist, or,communist, or, fascist ideology, take our country! Again, we can't abandon these people who need our help. Plus, remember, Shepard, if us coming to free people.from their binds, doesn't that.mean you're corrupt,by committing 'your' operations in Colorado?"
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Postby BOS Capital Chapter » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:44 pm

The Underground Movement Union wrote:Joshua chuckles at the voice. "Look man, I get your point. But, we can't abandon them. We have to help. We aren't expanding into them, we don't plan to forcefully take them over,.we don't plan to let some socialist, or,communist, or, fascist ideology, take our country! Again, we can't abandon these people who need our help. Plus, remember, Shepard, if us coming to free people.from their binds, doesn't that.mean you're corrupt,by committing 'your' operations in Colorado?"

Shepard shook his head with the typical "no" face. "No it doesn't. We have the resources and the needed tech to carry out small missions, but you're talking about marching across the Legion's fucking homeland!" Shepard leaned against the wall as Tenpenny brought him a Nuka~Cola. He thanked him and drank from the bottle. "Look, the best government system, in my opinion, is a benevolent dictator, like Elder Lyons. Democracies fail, Communists fail, it ALL fails. The Legion had a tyrant: failed. NCR is a democracy: On the road to failure. The Enclave: Failed. Who is the ONLY faction who has thrived? The Brotherhood! Because Maxon knew how shit had to happen!"

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Postby Alouite » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:54 pm

BOS Capital Chapter wrote:
The Underground Movement Union wrote:Joshua chuckles at the voice. "Look man, I get your point. But, we can't abandon them. We have to help. We aren't expanding into them, we don't plan to forcefully take them over,.we don't plan to let some socialist, or,communist, or, fascist ideology, take our country! Again, we can't abandon these people who need our help. Plus, remember, Shepard, if us coming to free people.from their binds, doesn't that.mean you're corrupt,by committing 'your' operations in Colorado?"

Shepard shook his head with the typical "no" face. "No it doesn't. We have the resources and the needed tech to carry out small missions, but you're talking about marching across the Legion's fucking homeland!" Shepard leaned against the wall as Tenpenny brought him a Nuka~Cola. He thanked him and drank from the bottle. "Look, the best government system, in my opinion, is a benevolent dictator, like Elder Lyons. Democracies fail, Communists fail, it ALL fails. The Legion had a tyrant: failed. NCR is a democracy: On the road to failure. The Enclave: Failed. Who is the ONLY faction who has thrived? The Brotherhood! Because Maxon knew how shit had to happen!"

Sam laughed, "You are also so amazingly biased, I guess your Overseer was a good ol' benevolent dictator as well. But hey, I guess that I should tell people that voting is evil and we should install a dictator who could potentially do as he pleases including trampling on everyones rights. Look, I don't tell you how to think, don't you dare tell us how to think. Understood? Good. Now we can get on to more important things like what the extent of your operations in the Mojave are and when you will be allowing us to take care of them."
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Alouite wrote:
BOS Capital Chapter wrote:Shepard shook his head with the typical "no" face. "No it doesn't. We have the resources and the needed tech to carry out small missions, but you're talking about marching across the Legion's fucking homeland!" Shepard leaned against the wall as Tenpenny brought him a Nuka~Cola. He thanked him and drank from the bottle. "Look, the best government system, in my opinion, is a benevolent dictator, like Elder Lyons. Democracies fail, Communists fail, it ALL fails. The Legion had a tyrant: failed. NCR is a democracy: On the road to failure. The Enclave: Failed. Who is the ONLY faction who has thrived? The Brotherhood! Because Maxon knew how shit had to happen!"

Sam laughed, "You are also so amazingly biased, I guess your Overseer was a good ol' benevolent dictator as well. But hey, I guess that I should tell people that voting is evil and we should install a dictator who could potentially do as he pleases including trampling on everyones rights. Look, I don't tell you how to think, don't you dare tell us how to think. Understood? Good. Now we can get on to more important things like what the extent of your operations in the Mojave are and when you will be allowing us to take care of them."

Shepard snapped when Sam spoke of the Overseer. He immediately charged Sam, picking him up and inning him against the wall. "You don't know me asshole. The Overseer murderer and lied, killed my friend Jonas! Tried to kill me and even his own daughter..." Shepard heard his voice falter. "...Amata". Shepard set Sam down and walked to the other side of the room, his head down.

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"Look, let's all just settle down here for a moment..."
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The Underground Movement Union wrote:"Look, let's all just settle down here for a moment..."

Shepard turned to Joshua. "Don't fucking tell me to settle down, Joshua! I'm 23 years old! 23! I've killed countless people! Hurt so many others! Fuck! I've been through more shit in 4 years than you have in your entire fucking life!"

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Postby Alouite » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:08 pm

BOS Capital Chapter wrote:
Alouite wrote:Sam laughed, "You are also so amazingly biased, I guess your Overseer was a good ol' benevolent dictator as well. But hey, I guess that I should tell people that voting is evil and we should install a dictator who could potentially do as he pleases including trampling on everyones rights. Look, I don't tell you how to think, don't you dare tell us how to think. Understood? Good. Now we can get on to more important things like what the extent of your operations in the Mojave are and when you will be allowing us to take care of them."

Shepard snapped when Sam spoke of the Overseer. He immediately charged Sam, picking him up and inning him against the wall. "You don't know me asshole. The Overseer murderer and lied, killed my friend Jonas! Tried to kill me and even his own daughter..." Shepard heard his voice falter. "...Amata". Shepard set Sam down and walked to the other side of the room, his head down.

Sam nodded and said "That was my point, dictatorships are worse than democracies in any situation, case or example. Its a rule of life, once a man who uses his power selfishly achieves the head of state, they take over. I should know this well, after all, the Overseer was the man who sabotaged my vault and lead us to our deaths, and he was a benevolent dictator. My parents, my little brother, my friends, my uncle, my aunt, my whole life destroyed except for a few friends, and even they are now only three. All thanks to a benevolent dictator. I know Lyons is a good man, but one day when a bad man takes lead, that will be the fall of the brotherhood because unlike a democracy, they wont have the right to request a new election, unlike a democracy they wont have the ability to change the law and kick him out because once he says what he wants it is law, it is the will of any man who wants to be dictator that they hold onto the position of power no matter what evils they do to retain it. The Enclave had a dictator, Vault tec issued dictators, the Chinese Communists had a dictator, even the Legion has one, just because your current dictator is nice doesn't mean it will always be that way, thats why we picked democracy. Thats why we made a way out of such a predicament. Will corruption exist? Yes. But I'd rather that to a dictatorship. Again, I'm not telling you what to think, but based on my life, I will never condone or agree with a dictatorship ruling over me."
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Postby BOS Capital Chapter » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:13 pm

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BOS Capital Chapter wrote:Shepard snapped when Sam spoke of the Overseer. He immediately charged Sam, picking him up and inning him against the wall. "You don't know me asshole. The Overseer murderer and lied, killed my friend Jonas! Tried to kill me and even his own daughter..." Shepard heard his voice falter. "...Amata". Shepard set Sam down and walked to the other side of the room, his head down.

Sam nodded and said "That was my point, dictatorships are worse than democracies in any situation, case or example. Its a rule of life, once a man who uses his power selfishly achieves the head of state, they take over. I should know this well, after all, the Overseer was the man who sabotaged my vault and lead us to our deaths, and he was a benevolent dictator. My parents, my little brother, my friends, my uncle, my aunt, my whole life destroyed except for a few friends, and even they are now only three. All thanks to a benevolent dictator. I know Lyons is a good man, but one day when a bad man takes lead, that will be the fall of the brotherhood because unlike a democracy, they wont have the right to request a new election, unlike a democracy they wont have the ability to change the law and kick him out because once he says what he wants it is law, it is the will of any man who wants to be dictator that they hold onto the position of power no matter what evils they do to retain it. The Enclave had a dictator, Vault tec issued dictators, the Chinese Communists had a dictator, even the Legion has one, just because your current dictator is nice doesn't mean it will always be that way, thats why we picked democracy. Thats why we made a way out of such a predicament. Corruption? Yes. But I'd rather that to a dictatorship. Again, I'm not telling you what to think, but based on my life, I will never condone or agree with a dictatorship ruling over me."

Shepard sat down and covered his face with his palms. "You don't get it, Sam... so many lives... reaped by my hand. I've only known this world for 4 years, and I've seen more hell than most". Shepard stood up restlessly. "Amata... I loved her... I killed her Dad...".

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Postby BOS Capital Chapter » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:27 pm

Shepard shook off the old memories and turned to Josh. "Do NOT let this happen. Your people are at stake"

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Postby Alouite » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:27 pm

BOS Capital Chapter wrote:
Alouite wrote:Sam nodded and said "That was my point, dictatorships are worse than democracies in any situation, case or example. Its a rule of life, once a man who uses his power selfishly achieves the head of state, they take over. I should know this well, after all, the Overseer was the man who sabotaged my vault and lead us to our deaths, and he was a benevolent dictator. My parents, my little brother, my friends, my uncle, my aunt, my whole life destroyed except for a few friends, and even they are now only three. All thanks to a benevolent dictator. I know Lyons is a good man, but one day when a bad man takes lead, that will be the fall of the brotherhood because unlike a democracy, they wont have the right to request a new election, unlike a democracy they wont have the ability to change the law and kick him out because once he says what he wants it is law, it is the will of any man who wants to be dictator that they hold onto the position of power no matter what evils they do to retain it. The Enclave had a dictator, Vault tec issued dictators, the Chinese Communists had a dictator, even the Legion has one, just because your current dictator is nice doesn't mean it will always be that way, thats why we picked democracy. Thats why we made a way out of such a predicament. Corruption? Yes. But I'd rather that to a dictatorship. Again, I'm not telling you what to think, but based on my life, I will never condone or agree with a dictatorship ruling over me."

Shepard sat down and covered his face with his palms. "You don't get it, Sam... so many lives... reaped by my hand. I've only known this world for 4 years, and I've seen more hell than most". Shepard stood up restlessly. "Amata... I loved her... I killed her Dad...".

"Maybe you need to stop killing people then. I have no idea why you'd kill your friends father, even if he was horrible I would've forgiven him, but you seem to be a bit more violent than most. But you aren't horrible, only a bit unstable. Look, I saw shit too. I saw my father and younger brother's head explode from shotgun fire in front of me. I saw my mother get ripped to shreds by a missile, I saw my uncle get shot up. Later in Freeside a gang decapitated all the adults and some of the kids left in our group of refugees, did anyone help us? No. Later I moved to Black Mountain and we became raiders, we didn't kill people, but we stole because thats what we thought the damn world was, then the Nightkin move in and slaughter the men and women I had learned to call brothers and sisters, those I felt were a new family, killed, ripped, impaled..." Sam started to have bad memories and started shaking but stopped himself. "I know what hell is like, I have had all I know torn from me, even now only four people care for me, and they all may never come back. I am not some little kid who runs around playing conquest and king of the hill here Shepard, I worked for these people even though they have attacked, maimed, threatened and try to kill me all my life. Back in the vault when I was a toddler, there was a revolt, I never met my grandparents and a new Overseer took over. From then on people started getting taken to the Box, I never understood it as a child but it was a torture device in the lower levels, my parents came to my room some nights with scars and bloodstains for a small mistake at work. The nightmares even back then." Sam paused again. "I understand what hell is like. I do. I know what its like to kill. I have had to to survive. I have suffered all my life but still I stand up for the people of the Mojave, because if one day we can work our way up to that crappy standard of living from before the war, with ignorant and self interested people who look out for themselves in a capitalist world, it will be a million times better than this. And if we can do better than that, even making a more community based capitalist society with people looking out for one another, then I will have reached my goal."
National Liberalism, National School Economics, National Dividend, Constitutional Originalism, Protection of US Domestic Trade, The Chinese Gov't in Exile in Taipei, and Ending the War on Nouns
Hyman Minsky
Totalitarianism, the Destruction of the Environment, Racism, and, most of all, people who end statements in questions?
The Patriot Act, The Illegitimate Communist Authorities in China, Economic Libertarianism, Absolutism and Communism

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