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Postby Ameige » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:50 am

Am I mistaken or is there a long time period between fallout 3 and fallout new vegas?
I thought there was like a 20 year time gap between them or something.

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Postby Cainesland » Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:07 am

Ameige wrote:Am I mistaken or is there a long time period between fallout 3 and fallout new vegas?
I thought there was like a 20 year time gap between them or something.

No your not mistaken

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Postby Cainesland » Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:08 am

Ameige wrote:
Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:Application
Name: Snowflake
Age: 55
Equipment: 44. Magnum Revolver, 5 Stimpaks, Grimy Pre-War Buisnesswear, Sunglasses, Sexy Sleepwear (Not equipped) Ryan Brigg's Mole Rat Wonder Meat Maker
Faction: Enclave
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Short Bio:
Snowflake is a newcomer to Underworld, and to ghouldom. He showed up a few years ago after being kicked out of Rivet City. Because he had nowhere else to go, Underworld took him in. Snowflake's main skill is as a barber, which isn't much use to anyone in Underworld. Lacking any other way to pass the time, he's taken up jet.

However, realizing what his greatness could propel him to, Snowflake joined up in the Enclave, becoming a politician in the Enclave, serving under President Castor. Snowflake the Ghoul Barber seeks to become President of the Enclave, citing a list of good ways to rebuild America, such as creating rows and rows of Barber Shops throughout the Capital Wasteland, to make sure no one ever has to go work with hair in their face again. Snowflake has a career ahead of him and he knows it.

Starting Location: The Capitol Building


wants to become president? Buahaha! good luck! It seems anytime some one tries to be next in line after castor, they get killed.

Didnt like two of his advisors want to become president, and then got shot or something?


His best friend was vp and died at the third battle at the dam.

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Postby Alouite » Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:38 pm

Cainesland wrote:
Ameige wrote:Am I mistaken or is there a long time period between fallout 3 and fallout new vegas?
I thought there was like a 20 year time gap between them or something.

No your not mistaken

You both are mistaken, there is a four year gap between the two.
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Postby Alouite » Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:46 pm

Application
Name: Protector McGraw
Age: 42
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McGraw is the head of operations in the Bailey's Crossroads section of the D.C. Metropolitan Ruins. He is in charge of defending and exploring a pre-War compound belonging to Virtual Strategic Solutions, Inc., investigating Enclave actions in D.C. and maintaining control of his territory along with it's logistical viability. He deems the outpost worth risking his life for, as well as those of the patrol he commands. Sharing a rank with Protector Casdin, the two technically have equal power within the Brotherhood and though Henry controls most of the manpower within the Outcasts, McGraw controls the majority of the technologically advanced and pre-war logistical assets. Due to this they maintain a balance of power quite even in strength with McGraw having higher quality troops and more automated support, and Casdin having the sheer numbers.

Worried about being purged as more support has flown towards Casdin recently, McGraw along with Defender Morill, Specialist Olin, Specialist R.R. Rasting, and new, pure, vault born recruit whom has risen fairly quickly to the rank of Defender, Defender Pierre. Together they have formed a secret organization within the Outcasts called the Fraternal Order, referred to in code name as the "fleur".
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Postby Cainesland » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:55 pm

I will try and update my post tomorrow. But if you think it's good enough ameige your welcome to either reply to it or post based on it. As you mentioned your desire to do earlier.

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Postby Ameige » Tue Oct 20, 2015 6:34 am

Alouite wrote:
Cainesland wrote:No your not mistaken

You both are mistaken, there is a four year gap between the two.


Oh.. well allright then.. NAR, your Protector Daniel Benning app is a bit off.
He would only be around 22-23 by now if he was 17 during the events of fallout 3.
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Postby The NAR » Tue Oct 20, 2015 1:50 pm

Ameige wrote:
Alouite wrote:You both are mistaken, there is a four year gap between the two.


Oh.. well allright then.. NAR, your Protector Daniel Benning app is a bit off.
He would only be around 22-23 by now if he was 17 during the events of fallout 3.

I never did the math
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Postby Cainesland » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:32 pm

I was about to start up a post updating castor and I figured I would ask your guys thoughts on this idea before I post it.

"Castor lands in the forest surrounded refuelling post where the last post directly involving him ended. But due to a technical difficulty, and no longer having the plans on him, he cannot repair the vertibird. Naturally this causes a drastic reduction in his estimated time of arrival on new vegas, especially as he is 60. An alert is sent out to find him."

Would any of you have any issues with me having this post tomorrow. I figured it would give people something to post about without me having to kill off my character.
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Postby Ameige » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:04 am

Cainesland wrote:I was about to start up a post updating castor and I figured I would ask your guys thoughts on this idea before I post it.

"Castor lands in the forest surrounded refuelling post where the last post directly involving him ended. But due to a technical difficulty, and no longer having the plans on him, he cannot repair the vertibird. Naturally this causes a drastic reduction in his estimated time of arrival on new vegas, especially as he is 60. An alert is sent out to find him."

Would any of you have any issues with me having this post tomorrow. I figured it would give people something to post about without me having to kill off my character.


Huh. I allways thought someone shot down the vertibird with an anti material rifle or something and he died when it crashed into the ground and exploded. But your idea is good too.

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Postby Cainesland » Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:08 am

Ameige wrote:
Cainesland wrote:I was about to start up a post updating castor and I figured I would ask your guys thoughts on this idea before I post it.

"Castor lands in the forest surrounded refuelling post where the last post directly involving him ended. But due to a technical difficulty, and no longer having the plans on him, he cannot repair the vertibird. Naturally this causes a drastic reduction in his estimated time of arrival on new vegas, especially as he is 60. An alert is sent out to find him."

Would any of you have any issues with me having this post tomorrow. I figured it would give people something to post about without me having to kill off my character.


Huh. I allways thought someone shot down the vertibird with an anti material rifle or something and he died when it crashed into the ground and exploded. But your idea is good too.



That was the original plan. However it was explained to me that him dying could be bad for the rp and in addition leave me without a character. As such I decided to have him live but go missing as that means that I get a character still and until castors found Taliyn takes over castors duties as president.

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Postby The NAR » Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:57 am

Cainesland wrote:
Ameige wrote:
Huh. I allways thought someone shot down the vertibird with an anti material rifle or something and he died when it crashed into the ground and exploded. But your idea is good too.



That was the original plan. However it was explained to me that him dying could be bad for the rp and in addition leave me without a character. As such I decided to have him live but go missing as that means that I get a character still and until castors found Taliyn takes over castors duties as president.


Unlikely, since Winters will probably be assuming the position. A 200 year old, decorated Enclave Officer and former U.S. Soldier is more qualified than a girl nobody knows

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Postby Alouite » Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:21 pm

The NAR wrote:
Cainesland wrote:

That was the original plan. However it was explained to me that him dying could be bad for the rp and in addition leave me without a character. As such I decided to have him live but go missing as that means that I get a character still and until castors found Taliyn takes over castors duties as president.


Unlikely, since Winters will probably be assuming the position. A 200 year old, decorated Enclave Officer and former U.S. Soldier is more qualified than a girl nobody knows

Waiting for Hank, too

Well, she'll be de facto in charge, it's you're choice if you want to turn her into a puppet or kill her. But in the US, you legally have to be 35 and be a 16 year US citizen, she has no proof of citizenship and isn't 35, so it'd be easy to have a coup or puppeteer her.
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Postby Cainesland » Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:40 pm

Alouite wrote:
The NAR wrote:
Unlikely, since Winters will probably be assuming the position. A 200 year old, decorated Enclave Officer and former U.S. Soldier is more qualified than a girl nobody knows

Waiting for Hank, too

Well, she'll be de facto in charge, it's you're choice if you want to turn her into a puppet or kill her. But in the US, you legally have to be 35 and be a 16 year US citizen, she has no proof of citizenship and isn't 35, so it'd be easy to have a coup or puppeteer her.


To be fair the only four people that are aware of that as of this point, is winters, castor, Swiss, and Taliyn. With Swiss hard to get a hold of and Castro missing, that leaves winters vs Taliyn for a credibility thing. As has been mentioned, while winters could try and become an advisor and get his way that way (puppeteer), he could also try and lead a coup against her. The coup wouldn't need to be violent but it could be. For example if she's not 35 (we don't have any canon info to my knowledge if this rule changed or not in fallout to my knowledge) and upon legal basis she couldn't be the president de-facto. However given the state of murder investigations, an assassination is equally available as an option. Other options are available as well, but those are a few.

Also is that castor mentioned to winters that he was hesitant about naming her vp and was going to have to determine her capabilities before making it permanent so that's something winters can use if he needs evidence.

Taliyn could use her support from hills airforce base to try and move in the capital.

But I leave that up to you guys on how you feel would be an adept reaction to the situation by your characters.

On a seperate note, I just realized I have a lot of posts to reply to and will try and get everything done tomorrow with one post tonight.
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Postby The NAR » Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:41 pm

Cainesland wrote:
Alouite wrote:Well, she'll be de facto in charge, it's you're choice if you want to turn her into a puppet or kill her. But in the US, you legally have to be 35 and be a 16 year US citizen, she has no proof of citizenship and isn't 35, so it'd be easy to have a coup or puppeteer her.


To be fair the only four people that are aware of that as of this point, is winters, castor, Swiss, and Taliyn. With Swiss hard to get a hold of and Castro missing, that leaves winters vs Taliyn for a credibility thing. As has been mentioned, while winters could try and become an advisor and get his way that way (puppeteer), he could also try and lead a coup against her. The coup wouldn't need to be violent but it could be. For example if she's not 35 (we don't have any canon info to my knowledge if this rule changed or not in fallout to my knowledge) and upon legal basis she couldn't be the president de-facto. However given the state of murder investigations, an assassination is equally available as an option. Other options are available as well, but those are a few.

Also is that castor mentioned to winters that he was hesitant about naming her vp and was going to have to determine her capabilities before making it permanent so that's something winters can use if he needs evidence.

Taliyn could use her support from hills airforce base to try and move in the capital.

But I leave that up to you guys on how you feel would be an adept reaction to the situation by your characters.

On a seperate note, I just realized I have a lot of posts to reply to and will try and get everything done tomorrow with one post tonight.


There's just little possibility that the Enclave would allow a teenage girl to be President with such a well respected, decorated, and experienced leader such as Colonel Winters right there. If she tried to take power Winters wouldn't even tolerate it, neither would the entire East Coast including Chicago. She'd be deemed a lunatic and thrown in jail
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Postby Cainesland » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:16 pm

I'll try and respond to the other posts tomorrow. However would you guys be willing to tell me if I need to respond to you? I know I must respond to Alouite with free abd Keenan, and to ameirge with Swiss.

Do you guys have any suggestions on improving radio posts?

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Postby Alouite » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:37 am

Cainesland wrote:I'll try and respond to the other posts tomorrow. However would you guys be willing to tell me if I need to respond to you? I know I must respond to Alouite with free abd Keenan, and to ameirge with Swiss.

Do you guys have any suggestions on improving radio posts?

Nah, they're pretty good.
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Postby Commonwealth of Hank the Cat » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:12 am

I've posted for Snowflake.

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Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:I've posted for Snowflake.

Can you post for Percy?
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Postby Commonwealth of Hank the Cat » Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:25 pm

The NAR wrote:
Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:I've posted for Snowflake.

Can you post for Percy?


No, of course not!...no, I will. Just wa1t m8

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Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
The NAR wrote:Can you post for Percy?


No, of course not!...no, I will. Just wa1t m8


Text language or typo?

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Commonwealth of Hank the Cat wrote:
No, of course not!...no, I will. Just wa1t m8


Text language or typo?


Test Language.

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Postby Ameige » Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:50 am

Alouite wrote:
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Unlikely, since Winters will probably be assuming the position. A 200 year old, decorated Enclave Officer and former U.S. Soldier is more qualified than a girl nobody knows

Waiting for Hank, too

Well, she'll be de facto in charge, it's you're choice if you want to turn her into a puppet or kill her. But in the US, you legally have to be 35 and be a 16 year US citizen, she has no proof of citizenship and isn't 35, so it'd be easy to have a coup or puppeteer her.


Ok there is several things wrong with what both of you said. NAR, the OP has allready said taliyn will be president. Both OOC and as their IC character. Take it up with cainesland.

Alouite, I cant remember if it was you or cainesland that said this, but one of you pointed out that the enclave does not descend from the main branch of the government, the part that would decide that sort of stuff. They come from a secret backroom part of the government. Like some sort of illuminati pulling the strings of the government. Mind you they are all that is left of the american government, but they are a shadowy version that created the vault experiments and who, under eden, tried to wipe out a large portion of what was left of humanity.
I dont think they are going to be going by all the same rules as pre-war america.

As for proof, yes, if someone were to ask her for proof that she is from the enclave, she could produce it. She would have dogtags or whatever the enclave used for identification. Or she could call up the group she was previously with, or pretty much any enclave base, on a ham radio and have them vouch for her. I am pretty certain the enclave would keep records of their personnel.

And no, NAR cannot just "turn her into a puppet or kill her." As cainesland has pointed out, you cannot kill off someone else's character without their permission. And good luck trying to turn her into a puppet. She has survived in a desert enviroment, surrounded by things that want to eat her and, for a little while at least, several factions of lawless people that wanted to kill her on sight. like raiders and such.

She as survived hardship and has come out of it with strength and determination and a will to survive. Making her into anyone's puppet is not going to be easy.

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Postby Ameige » Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:52 am

The NAR wrote:
Cainesland wrote:
To be fair the only four people that are aware of that as of this point, is winters, castor, Swiss, and Taliyn. With Swiss hard to get a hold of and Castro missing, that leaves winters vs Taliyn for a credibility thing. As has been mentioned, while winters could try and become an advisor and get his way that way (puppeteer), he could also try and lead a coup against her. The coup wouldn't need to be violent but it could be. For example if she's not 35 (we don't have any canon info to my knowledge if this rule changed or not in fallout to my knowledge) and upon legal basis she couldn't be the president de-facto. However given the state of murder investigations, an assassination is equally available as an option. Other options are available as well, but those are a few.

Also is that castor mentioned to winters that he was hesitant about naming her vp and was going to have to determine her capabilities before making it permanent so that's something winters can use if he needs evidence.

Taliyn could use her support from hills airforce base to try and move in the capital.

But I leave that up to you guys on how you feel would be an adept reaction to the situation by your characters.

On a seperate note, I just realized I have a lot of posts to reply to and will try and get everything done tomorrow with one post tonight.


There's just little possibility that the Enclave would allow a teenage girl to be President with such a well respected, decorated, and experienced leader such as Colonel Winters right there. If she tried to take power Winters wouldn't even tolerate it, neither would the entire East Coast including Chicago. She'd be deemed a lunatic and thrown in jail


No she wouldnt. Castor/cainesland rules the enclave. Not Colonel Winters.
The enclave will back whoever Castor, the current president of the enclave, puts in charge. Period.

Thats how it worked in the games, thats how we play it here. Unless cainesland changes their mind, which I really hope they dont.
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Postby Ameige » Sat Oct 24, 2015 8:24 am

Cainesland wrote:
Alouite wrote:Well, she'll be de facto in charge, it's you're choice if you want to turn her into a puppet or kill her. But in the US, you legally have to be 35 and be a 16 year US citizen, she has no proof of citizenship and isn't 35, so it'd be easy to have a coup or puppeteer her.


To be fair the only four people that are aware of that as of this point, is winters, castor, Swiss, and Taliyn. With Swiss hard to get a hold of and Castro missing, that leaves winters vs Taliyn for a credibility thing. As has been mentioned, while winters could try and become an advisor and get his way that way (puppeteer), he could also try and lead a coup against her. The coup wouldn't need to be violent but it could be. For example if she's not 35 (we don't have any canon info to my knowledge if this rule changed or not in fallout to my knowledge) and upon legal basis she couldn't be the president de-facto. However given the state of murder investigations, an assassination is equally available as an option. Other options are available as well, but those are a few.

Also is that castor mentioned to winters that he was hesitant about naming her vp and was going to have to determine her capabilities before making it permanent so that's something winters can use if he needs evidence.

Taliyn could use her support from hills airforce base to try and move in the capital.

But I leave that up to you guys on how you feel would be an adept reaction to the situation by your characters.

On a seperate note, I just realized I have a lot of posts to reply to and will try and get everything done tomorrow with one post tonight.


The "canon" thing is that the enclave does not have any age restrictions to who can become leader of any part of it. I think thats mostly because no one under a certain age would be considered interested in leading a base or becoming president or whatever. The world might have ended but teenagers are still teenagers. all they care about is whether they are attractive enough for the other gender to be attracted to them and hanging out with their friends. And possibly freaking out about school stuff if the enclave has anything remotely resembling the old world school system.

But the idea that any of them would want to become anything more than maybe the most popular kid in school or some overachieving valedictorian nerd, is something that the enclave would not have even considered. A teenager wanting to become president right away would not have even crossed their minds enough for it to be an issue.

There is nothing I can find in the wikia that says they have any set laws regarding who can be in control of what, age wise.

So yes, Taliyn can be president.
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