New Imperialism - AH RP v1.3 [OOC/Signup]

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Umm, its a three prolonged attack that isn't even finished and you taking over another country just to directly intervene because you want to fuck around and your assuming our actions and skipping ahead our attack is different.

CSA hasn't responded to the attack yet and your mobilizing..

so edit your post accordingly.

CSA hasn't even gotten word of the attack to his president so sit down and wait your turn you, over reaching twat.

You, my friend, need to calm down and relax.

Oh ok. I mean, I already asked him and he has ignored my TG, so I guess that's a no.

Would anyone be interested in investing in El Cerrejon?

Oh, the something in this is too good to be true. I don't know if it's irony or hypocrisy or what, but it's delicious.

Well, everything was fine during Buj's rule. Now Eurasia is like collapsing.
I am still assuming direct investment is happening between both countries.

The case is rather subjective.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Who is NeSA?

Northeastern States of America.

Basically New England and Eastern Canada as a country, minus what the Dutch hold in the New Netherland.

We also have Pennsylvania, South Jersey and Delaware.

[Alleniana]

1) Better than being utterly humiliated. The loss of those territories would be enough to destabilise the country that it is either propped up and becomes a puppet, or collapses entirely.

2) They don't want enemies investing, is what I mean. Any nation that attempts to enforce the Straits treaty is an enemy.

3) Mhm, I'll leave it since it hinges on acceptance.

4) Their interests kind of lie in not being dismantled by foreigners.

Let's suppose they accept.

Well, what'll happen is the delegation will get lynched along with various other public/government figures, there'll be riots in the streets, outright rebellion in the zone, assassination of other public/government figures, and a breakdown of social fabric. People will take to arms and the streets, the government will lose all credibility, and amidst this, crackpot dictators and warlords will of course spring up, and the country will dissolve. Hardly anything to want, is it?

The thing is, Turkish democracy is essentially populist. Whatever desire sweeps the populace will be entirely impossible to keep from happening; the government doesn't govern, it's simply a personification. And therein lies the problem; nationalists are not realists by nature, and certainly here they are not. Without altering the political landscape or finding some other genius way of dealing with it, it's impossible for them to accept.

This is why I want to play Turkey, though; there are wise heads, but an NPC can't negotiate; it can't ask for better terms or ask for more time or look for allies. If France were to adopt Turkey as a damn-well near dominion, they would still see it better than the Straits treaty. And who knows? Maybe the Dutch, or the Italians, or someone out there would do that. Or maybe some nation out there would champion their cause, or hell, maybe they can even fight well enough. Certainly, the Straits zone won't achieve zilch in stability terms if the people there are nationalists Turks pissed at life and the powers that be, namely Straits Treaty signatories.

There's also the fact that people seem to be mostly ignoring the instability. But anyway, you're being more reasonable than most of the people I've talked to about it so far, so

And thanks for the answers to the other questions.

Did Buj wage war with Scandinavia?

Buj won war that became larger than I thought and now UKSN is going to be unstable hell hole for a while. Britain has yet to have a domain

wat
>.>
why are you talk of self in 3rd person

@Mish, you can have more than an hour. I gotta go sleep now. But I'm glad the Turkey nut is finally being cracked.
Bye everybody!

[Bujahla]

You, my friend, need to calm down and relax.



Oh, the something in this is too good to be true. I don't know if it's irony or hypocrisy or what, but it's delicious.

Well, everything was fine during Buj's rule. Now Eurasia is like collapsing.
I am still assuming direct investment is happening between both countries.

The case is rather subjective.

Investment should be happening anyhow.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Wait, aren't thw British and the Germans like professionals in the mining industry?

[Vredlandia]

@Mish: Did you read the post regarding the WGC?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Because too lazy to edit Mish's post about the El Cerrojon thingy.

Yeah you are likely to get some Robber Barons to invest, especially those already in the coal mining industry, steel production, and railroading. If you want, Hanny, I'll get you a list.

[Bujahla]

Wait, aren't thw British and the Germans like professionals in the mining industry?

mhmm

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Well, everything was fine during Buj's rule. Now Eurasia is like collapsing.
I am still assuming direct investment is happening between both countries.

The case is rather subjective.

Investment should be happening anyhow.

But of the sort I requested? Purchase of machinery and knowledge in the exploitation of coal? Not processing, yet. One step at a time.

That's for the North Zone. The Central and South Zones are still unexploited. Maybe I can let some foreign companies handle those?

*Sigh* Why did you have to switch?

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Because too lazy to edit Mish's post about the El Cerrojon thingy.

Yeah you are likely to get some Robber Barons to invest, especially those already in the coal mining industry, steel production, and railroading. If you want, Hanny, I'll get you a list.

I thought you hated me...

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Because too lazy to edit Mish's post about the El Cerrojon thingy.

Yeah you are likely to get some Robber Barons to invest, especially those already in the coal mining industry, steel production, and railroading. If you want, Hanny, I'll get you a list.

I thought you hated me...

Government and business are two separate entities.

Government might dislike you, but they don't get involved or put pressure on the economy. So like that means no embargo. It means getting products to NeSA is well complicated because of the incoming war between us, but like I said we won't embargo you during the war. I don't think I will be embargoing anything. Like I said, I don't want the government to really do anything with the economy, minus trust busting because well that is essential. But the Robber Barons have another five or six years of bliss before they are all really defeated.

We might "hate" you, but the Robber Barons stand to make money off you and in turn our economy profits, therefore we don't get involved.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Reph not interested in international stuff? Someone isn't RPing Witte right....

Anyhow, ask him but you should just be able to assume it with his permission.

Oh ok. I mean, I already asked him and he has ignored my TG, so I guess that's a no.

Would anyone be interested in investing in El Cerrejon?

The National Italian syndicate for Coal and Steel, will invest.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

I thought you hated me...

Government and business are two separate entities.

Government might dislike you, but they don't get involved or put pressure on the economy. So like that means no embargo. It means getting products to NeSA is well complicated because of the incoming war between us, but like I said we won't embargo you during the war. I don't think I will be embargoing anything. Like I said, I don't want the government to really do anything with the economy, minus trust busting because well that is essential. But the Robber Barons have another five or six years of bliss before they are all really defeated.

We might "hate" you, but the Robber Barons stand to make money off you and in turn our economy profits, therefore we don't get involved.

Ok, I know I have the fame of asking stupid questions, but how can that happen?

When you are at war, don't both countries officially close economic relations?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

When you are at war, don't both countries officially close economic relations?

Typically, yes. But we like to leave that up to our business owners. Like I said, it will be hard to ship goods between us, and my Robber Barons will be made aware of the risks of trying to ship goods, but we won't close trade. We might attack supply convoys, but we won't reject trade ships, that is if they can get to our ports without sinking. So yes, I mean technically trade will be closed or almost closed, but officially, no the government isn't closing trade, if that makes sense.

And in my opinion, no question is "stupid" because you stand the gain the insight of another person, so don't worry Hanny.

[Saragrossa]

Does no one know what a robner baron is? Its an type of industrialist and probably Glitter is probably trying to war me to Bankrupt the NESA in the long term to profit said barons

so i would be weary making a deal with their government lol

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Does no one know what a robner baron is? Its an type of industrialist and probably Glitter is probably trying to war me to Bankrupt the NESA in the long term to profit said barons

so i would be weary making a deal with their government lol

Stop spewing your lies to make people doubt my credibility because you don't like how I am using NeSA.

I could happily explain how robber barons work and how their monopolies are going to fall apart within the next five-six years. And they are still going to be wealthy as anything and still invest in whatever they can profit off of.

Theodore Roosevelt is my Attorney General. The Robber Barons are going to lose their monopolies.

[Mishmahig]

When you are at war, don't both countries officially close economic relations?

Typically, yes. But we like to leave that up to our business owners. Like I said, it will be hard to ship goods between us, and my Robber Barons will be made aware of the risks of trying to ship goods, but we won't close trade. We might attack supply convoys, but we won't reject trade ships, that is if they can get to our ports without sinking. So yes, I mean technically trade will be closed or almost closed, but officially, no the government isn't closing trade, if that makes sense.

And in my opinion, no question is "stupid" because you stand the gain the insight of another person, so don't worry Hanny.

This is.... almost identical to the French policy.

Supply convoys are mostly unhindered, we only sink military ships/transports, and war-essential goods (ammo, equipment, etc) are redirected to friendly ports.

The only case where we might go all out Germany u-boat campaign is if we go to war with, I dunno, Britain or something.

Theodore Roosevelt is my Attorney General.

He's wasted in that. Teddy should come to France where I will engineer a series of extraordinarily unlikely events to make him the French Prime Minister, and then he shall lead the Second Republic across Europe in a tidal wave of French nationalism and imperialism!

Vive France! Vive Teddy Roosevelt!

[Saragrossa]

Does no one know what a robner baron is? Its an type of industrialist and probably Glitter is probably trying to war me to Bankrupt the NESA in the long term to profit said barons

so i would be weary making a deal with their government lol

Stop spewing your lies to make people doubt my credibility because you don't how I am using NeSA.

I could happily explain how robber barons work and how their monopolies are going to fall apart within the next five-six years. And they are still going to be wealthy as anything and still invest in whatever they can profit off of.

Theodore Roosevelt is my Attorney General. The Robber Barons are going to lose their monopolies.

Well a Robber baron is a business people who squashes competition by undercutting them, and exploiting workers and having high level government lobbyists then once they kill competition, they artificially dump stocks and kill the companies and have super duper profits.. i am just assuming,

Like The Pacific had a president called " Warmonger Bloodmoongod " I am pretty sure you would assume hes a war monger.

I am not making fun or criticizing but i don't think anyone realized what a robber baron is and i chuckled at that.

Its very clever name for a business man/duet.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

He's wasted in that. Teddy should come to France where I will engineer a series of extraordinarily unlikely events to make him the French Prime Minister, and then he shall lead the Second Republic across Europe in a tidal wave of French nationalism and imperialism!

Vive France! Vive Teddy Roosevelt!

Well I mean he will be VP soon, and from there President. Just needs some time.

Trust busting will make him very popular.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Oh ok. I mean, I already asked him and he has ignored my TG, so I guess that's a no.

Would anyone be interested in investing in El Cerrejon?

The National Italian syndicate for Coal and Steel, will invest.

Why only the countries that hate Colombia want to invest in Colombia?

What about the British, French, Germans, Spanish, Scandinavians, Japanese, etc?

[Caltarania]

Iberia, China, and the United Provinces (Dutch).

OOC: NPC, Kryskov, and Caltarania.

Thanks.

I guess I will start with the Phillippines first since it is an NPC, and then move on to Indonesia in order to gain their resources.

That sounds like a violation of our agreement.

Also consideringu nation had to remove any French ties like being métis because France had no colonial presence in North America

They did have a colonial presence, hence the part of Quebec they own, it just wasn't as big as OTL and the Metis never became a cultural group.

If Japan attacks China the Mughal Empire will assist the Chinese. Same goes with the Dutch and Spanish.

What will you even gain from getting involved in this, besides dead bodies? I doubt you would succeed.

The same could be said for Japan. We gave you Singapore and free military access into our lands. Declaring war would leave you with no allies in the international community, as everyone would see Japan as an un-trustable nation.

Japan has a couple of agreements:
- Secret defense pact with Russia in case China attacks either
- Secret defense pact with Scandinavia (which will go null in my next post) in case Russia attacks either
- Mining rights and a ton of crap in Siam that makes it close to a puppet
- Alliance with Dutch
- Tons of trade and bilateral trade agreements in China, Russia (helping to modernize east coast), UP, and more
- Was suppose to buy both New Zealand and Hawaii, but old old old old france called it off.

Thank you for this list.

I am still going to betray the Dutch, though.

Look at that! That object flying up into the skies!

That was Japan's international credibility.

Anyway, I'm fine with this. I can take back Singapore and perhaps Polynesia.

Lies I want isolationism damn it.

Also why do we keep talking about Alberta I don't want Alberta I want Sasktoodsodswok or whatever that thing is called. If I ever called it Alberta I mixed up the two because I am bad at Western Canadian geography. I apologize for that.

I am gunning for Regina, Saskatoon, and Yorkton.

Saskatchewan.

Yeah, we hate the name too.

Just rename it New Yorkshire.

I'd back that.

It had a good run. It will be sincerely missed.

*scuffs*

Now that's one threat gone. Time to take me some ionian islands.

It was never really a threat. It was always meant to collapse anyway.

With the collapse of the FDA, I am guessing Greece will see its direct investment flows to severely decrease.

Britain into crazy conquest?

I don't need no Ionian Islands. But notice that I just annexed SEA and have all of Scandianvia as a protectorate (which raises the question of if it should be the same color or not). My crazy conquests will be in Africa for the moment.

-Raises Shield-

LIBERTY, FREEDERMZ, DEMOCRACY, CIVIL RIGHTS, FREEDERMZ, FREE TRADE, LIBERTIES, Bleh bleh

Hey Britain you want a non-aggression pact?

My first post is up.

The invasion of the Phillippines (codenamed Operation Eminence) is going to begin soon. I wonder what the international reaction will be.

The UP will declare neutrality on the subject.

Swiss territories returned to Switzerland, security of French citizens and borders, etc.

SWEET JESUS NO
WHAT NEXT, DIVIDE BY 0???

ALLEN THAT SHIT IS DANGEROUS.

EVEN BY SPEAKING OF IT WE ARE RISKING THE DESTRUCTION OF ALL TIME!

What's the situation in Asia right now (ICly)?

China - Stronk. Building industry. Friends with Britain.
Japan - Stronk. Controls lots of industries. Trade with all of Asia. Monopolized Siam's resources and infrastructure.
Russia - Stable but Reph will soon make unstable.
Mughals - Doing something to become frenchy
Siam - Essentially Japanese puppet state
Colonial territories - colonies

Also, the reason why I wanted Reph to post in two days was that he was loosing out the Great War by not posting for over a week despite originally winning by a good lead.

-Federalism intensifies-

Theodore Roosevelt is my Attorney General.

He's wasted in that. Teddy should come to France where I will engineer a series of extraordinarily unlikely events to make him the French Prime Minister, and then he shall lead the Second Republic across Europe in a tidal wave of French nationalism and imperialism!

Vive France! Vive Teddy Roosevelt!

pls nu

[Saragrossa]

The National Italian syndicate for Coal and Steel, will invest.

Why only the countries that hate Colombia want to invest in Colombia?

What about the British, French, Germans, Spanish, Scandinavians, Japanese, etc?

Its your call for investors. Why don't you invest in it and just burrow money from UK or Germans?

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Why only the countries that hate Colombia want to invest in Colombia?

What about the British, French, Germans, Spanish, Scandinavians, Japanese, etc?

Its your call for investors. Why don't you invest in it and just burrow money from UK or Germans?

I don't have the technology.

El Cerrejon Central and South Zones could be opened up for foreign companies.

[Saragrossa]

Its your call for investors. Why don't you invest in it and just burrow money from UK or Germans?

I don't have the technology.

El Cerrejon Central and South Zones could be opened up for foreign companies.

Well, unless your doing mountaintop or contour mining then you should be fine. Room and pillar mining is the norm along with Blast mining and room and pillar is basically cutting out rooms in coal then using a sturdy coal to form the pillar in the room and it can be extracted when you retreat and blasting is basically blowing it up and your cuttign the coal bed with explosives but its probably takes the most skill and precise

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Well a Robber baron is a business people who squashes competition by undercutting them, and exploiting workers and having high level government lobbyists then once they kill competition, they artificially dump stocks and kill the companies and have super duper profits.. i am just assuming,

Ah yes, capitalism.

But yeah they won't be crashing any economies. Look how trust busting went in the US, went pretty well quite frankly. That's basically exactly what I plan to do with my robber barons. This is the end of the robber baron era.