New Imperialism - AH RP v1.3 [OOC/Signup]

[Mishmahig]

What are they?

I just acquired me Scandinavian East Africa and Somalia (agreement Calt and I made via TG's I need to post).

The Dutch are selling their colonies?

*puts in an order for Dutch South Africa or Dutch South America*

[Lunas Legion]

For anyone who wants Confederate Africa, the price is to be in ships.

[Bujahla]

I just acquired me Scandinavian East Africa and Somalia (agreement Calt and I made via TG's I need to post).

The Dutch are selling their colonies?

*puts in an order for Dutch South Africa or Dutch South America*

Those aren't colonies. Those are states. The reason for Somalia being transferred to Britain is that it's an unincorporated territory set to become two states, and the Dutch don't want them to become states, so they need a way to get rid of it before it happens so they are giving it to us in tern for money and a non-aggression pact.

[Caltarania]

I just acquired me Scandinavian East Africa and Somalia (agreement Calt and I made via TG's I need to post).

The Dutch are selling their colonies?

*puts in an order for Dutch South Africa or Dutch South America*

Nope. Just Somalia because it a) Is still changing from Unincorporated Territory to Province(s), b) RED KNIFE TOO BAD and c) It's just a pain for no real gain.

The Dutch are selling their colonies?

*puts in an order for Dutch South Africa or Dutch South America*

Those aren't colonies. Those are states. The reason for Somalia being transferred to Britain is that it's an unincorporated territory set to become two states, and the Dutch don't want them to become states, so they need a way to get rid of it before it happens so they are giving it to us in tern for money and a non-aggression pact.

Yeah that.

[The Orson Empire]

The Dutch are selling their colonies?

*puts in an order for Dutch South Africa or Dutch South America*

Those aren't colonies. Those are states. The reason for Somalia being transferred to Britain is that it's an unincorporated territory set to become two states, and the Dutch don't want them to become states, so they need a way to get rid of it before it happens so they are giving it to us in tern for money and a non-aggression pact.

Speaking of Britain, do they still want an alliance with the Japanese? Perhaps we could convince them to make an alliance with us instead of the Dutch.

[The Orson Empire]

For anyone who wants Confederate Africa, the price is to be in ships.

What land in Africa do you control?

[Mishmahig]

For anyone who wants Confederate Africa, the price is to be in ships.

*cracks knuckles*

*hands over ships*

gib colony pl0x.

In all seriousness, how many/what type of ships are we talking here? Since France is entering the war on your side, we can't hand over our ships (since we need to protect our own colonies while fighting in America), but we can put in orders for Chicago, and temporarily hijack the ships we bought for Turkey.

The Dutch are selling their colonies?

*puts in an order for Dutch South Africa or Dutch South America*

Those aren't colonies. Those are states. The reason for Somalia being transferred to Britain is that it's an unincorporated territory set to become two states, and the Dutch don't want them to become states, so they need a way to get rid of it before it happens so they are giving it to us in tern for money and a non-aggression pact.

Oooooooooh. Good luck with the Red Knife. *nods*

[Lunas Legion]

For anyone who wants Confederate Africa, the price is to be in ships.

*cracks knuckles*

*hands over ships*

gib colony pl0x.

In all seriousness, how many/what type of ships are we talking here? Since France is entering the war on your side, we can't hand over our ships (since we need to protect our own colonies while fighting in America), but we can put in orders for Chicago, and temporarily hijack the ships we bought for Turkey.

Wait, you bought ships for Turkey?

Also, ship-wise, I'm aiming for a battleship or two along with some subs to augument the Atlantic Squadron after Chicargo repairs the salvaged hulls and it's own battleships are still under repair and increase our convoy raiding ability.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

*cracks knuckles*

*hands over ships*

gib colony pl0x.

In all seriousness, how many/what type of ships are we talking here? Since France is entering the war on your side, we can't hand over our ships (since we need to protect our own colonies while fighting in America), but we can put in orders for Chicago, and temporarily hijack the ships we bought for Turkey.

Wait, you bought ships for Turkey?

Also, ship-wise, I'm aiming for a battleship or two along with some subs to augument the Atlantic Squadron after Chicargo repairs the salvaged hulls and it's own battleships are still under repair and increase our convoy raiding ability.

Oh, I can buy them for you if you want.

[Mishmahig]

*cracks knuckles*

*hands over ships*

gib colony pl0x.

In all seriousness, how many/what type of ships are we talking here? Since France is entering the war on your side, we can't hand over our ships (since we need to protect our own colonies while fighting in America), but we can put in orders for Chicago, and temporarily hijack the ships we bought for Turkey.

Wait, you bought ships for Turkey?

Also, ship-wise, I'm aiming for a battleship or two along with some subs to augument the Atlantic Squadron after Chicargo repairs the salvaged hulls and it's own battleships are still under repair and increase our convoy raiding ability.

Part of French plans re Italy.

Yeah, we bought four destroyers, two cutters, and a battleship -- it's not much, but as a.... down deposit, so to speak, would it be semi-acceptable?

Similarly, I think I'll temporarily place the French Atlantic fleet under a joint Confederate/French command for ease in coordination and convoy shipping.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

So Italy is Sending an Expeditionary Force to the New world....
And Going to be building three more Dreadnaughts

[Lunas Legion]

Wait, you bought ships for Turkey?

Also, ship-wise, I'm aiming for a battleship or two along with some subs to augument the Atlantic Squadron after Chicargo repairs the salvaged hulls and it's own battleships are still under repair and increase our convoy raiding ability.

Part of French plans re Italy.

Yeah, we bought four destroyers, two cutters, and a battleship -- it's not much, but as a.... down deposit, so to speak, would it be semi-acceptable?

Similarly, I think I'll temporarily place the French Atlantic fleet under a joint Confederate/French command for ease in coordination and convoy shipping.

That will suffice, although more subs will be expected later.

[Mishmahig]

So Italy is Sending an Expeditionary Force to the New world....
And Going to be building three more Dreadnaughts

....an Expeditionary Force... against... what nation?

Part of French plans re Italy.

Yeah, we bought four destroyers, two cutters, and a battleship -- it's not much, but as a.... down deposit, so to speak, would it be semi-acceptable?

Similarly, I think I'll temporarily place the French Atlantic fleet under a joint Confederate/French command for ease in coordination and convoy shipping.

That will suffice, although more subs will be expected later.

France has no submarines at all.

This seems unforgivable. We must fix this.

Edit: Can the French set up their military command outside of Raleigh or Newport News?

[The Orson Empire]

Note that after Japan takes the Philippines, we will break off relations with your nation and invade Indonesia and possibly Australia.

Feel free. I will warn you OOCly, though, that the UP is considering signing an agreement with Britain over a non-aggression pact and possible defensive agreement against possible joint-rivals such as your own nation.

Should you break diplomatic relations entirely (like throw us out of our embassy or whatnot) I think it would be quite likely for us to consider a seizure of Singapore and, depending on how 'serious' your government seems to be, even an embargo or denial or services/trade/ect. We will then, too, render our side of the agreements we signed nul and order all your troops to exit our lands if they were stationed there, and - should war begin - seize all Japanese influences and businesses in regions such as Indonesia and Australia.

You should also be careful were you tred, if I may say so. Propaganda is a powerful tool, and we are more than willing to use it in order to rally up a massive Indonesian conscription to defend the Indonesian Provinces from foreign invasion. While, of course, some strands of Indonesians may rally to the Japanese for, y'know, whatever reason, a large amount - most likely large majority - would either stick by us or stay neutral in the affair. Considering that young adults are, typically, quite violent though, I'd assume many would conscript.

Before the war begins, we will be evacuating all Japanese from Indonesia and taking back as many Japanese assets as possible.

But yes, I know the risks. There are numerous benefits as well, such as Indonesia's vast resources. But the question for you is will you have enough time to do these things? The invasion will begin with a surprise attack, and we will be moving very quickly.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

*sigh*

The next naval battle between CSA and pacific will pit Chicago-made against Chicago-made.

[Lunas Legion]

So Italy is Sending an Expeditionary Force to the New world....
And Going to be building three more Dreadnaughts

....an Expeditionary Force... against... what nation?

That will suffice, although more subs will be expected later.

France has no submarines at all.

This seems unforgivable. We must fix this.

Edit: Can the French set up their military command outside of Raleigh or Newport News?

Italy is my ally. That should be enough of a answer on who the Exp force will be fighting for.

And feel free to set up your command wherever the hell you want. The Confederate High Command is in Atlanta, however.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

*sigh*

The next naval battle between CSA and pacific will pit Chicago-made against Chicago-made.

Hey Chicago want to build some ships for Italy?

[Caltarania]

So Italy is Sending an Expeditionary Force to the New world....
And Going to be building three more Dreadnaughts

....an Expeditionary Force... against... what nation?

That will suffice, although more subs will be expected later.

France has no submarines at all.

This seems unforgivable. We must fix this.

Edit: Can the French set up their military command outside of Raleigh or Newport News?

Neither do the Dutch. I'm going to try to loan some of the British before I can build our own.

Feel free. I will warn you OOCly, though, that the UP is considering signing an agreement with Britain over a non-aggression pact and possible defensive agreement against possible joint-rivals such as your own nation.

Should you break diplomatic relations entirely (like throw us out of our embassy or whatnot) I think it would be quite likely for us to consider a seizure of Singapore and, depending on how 'serious' your government seems to be, even an embargo or denial or services/trade/ect. We will then, too, render our side of the agreements we signed nul and order all your troops to exit our lands if they were stationed there, and - should war begin - seize all Japanese influences and businesses in regions such as Indonesia and Australia.

You should also be careful were you tred, if I may say so. Propaganda is a powerful tool, and we are more than willing to use it in order to rally up a massive Indonesian conscription to defend the Indonesian Provinces from foreign invasion. While, of course, some strands of Indonesians may rally to the Japanese for, y'know, whatever reason, a large amount - most likely large majority - would either stick by us or stay neutral in the affair. Considering that young adults are, typically, quite violent though, I'd assume many would conscript.

Before the war begins, we will be evacuating all Japanese from Indonesia and taking back as many Japanese assets as possible.

But yes, I know the risks. There are numerous benefits as well, such as Indonesia's vast resources. But the question for you is will you have enough time to do these things? The invasion will begin with a surprise attack, and we will be moving very quickly.

Of course we will. Sure, suprise attack. But you have two choices;

a) You end all our treaties, etc, and basically ignore us internationally. We're going to, by that point, notice something is up. We'll turn to our ambassadors (if they're still there) in Japan and request them to search for anything suspicious. If the ambassadors have been kicked out, then we'll start asking our contacts across the Pacific if they know anything of the situation. Eventually it would become clear that we needed to prepare for something. Standing on guard sounds like some sort of plan.

b) You don't end the treaties and continue 'normal' relations. The attack catches us off guard and you win initial battles against our dormant ships with no crew. Unfortunately, you didn't annul our alliance and we therefore sit on our diplomatic perch and bark at you for being dishonourable etc. This loses you international credibility as a trustworthy state and, if leaked to the masses, could cause chaos from Japanese traditionalists who see these actions as dishonourable and wrong. The invasion slows down as you are having to pull troops back to either defend from rebellion or from a nation who has joined the war in order to 'protect diplomatic interests' etc.

Furthermore, you think we leave our most valuable states unguarded? The largest of our fleets - De Pacifische Vloot - is stationed in Jakarta and consists of 8 Dreadnoughts, 10 Heavy Cruisers, 30 Destroyers, 78 Transports and 110 Torpedo Boats, along with an Local Auxiliary Fleet of 60 Civilian ships. Which is almost larger than your entire navy (assuming the app is correct). You wouldn't be able to land. The only advantage you have is your eight submarines. Which, admittedly, could do significant damage to our fleet. Though, should Britain and the UP sign this treaty before you declare war, we may be able to acquire a few submarines from the British. Heck, I could even say that we have four submarines now as I never originally included them in my apps because they were overlooked. But I digress. That isn't even mentioning the Royal Indonesian Garrison, whom are considered the most feared of the average Dutch soldiers, as proved in the Milk Incident. 344,663 of them in Indonesia as a conservative (and relatively rough) estimate. Plus their Sri Lankan and Australian counterparts. And that's just the average soldiers. Then, we have the Krijershel who number around 4,310 and are literally, in every way, commandos; whom are also trained to use Vlammenwerpers to their best effectiveness. About half of these reside in Indonesia, with about three hundred in 'Oz and around two hundred in Sri Lanka.

And then, if all really goes downhill, we can bring in the armies and fleets from the Netherlands, New Nederland, Guyana and Zuid Afrika. And if we do that, we bring the goddamn Zulus and tell them that if they fight well enough they can goddamn have Kyushu for all we care.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

*sigh*

The next naval battle between CSA and pacific will pit Chicago-made against Chicago-made.

Hey Chicago want to build some ships for Italy?

Sure? Mind you, ship building is a multi year trade.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

*sigh*

The next naval battle between CSA and pacific will pit Chicago-made against Chicago-made.

Chicago, do I owe you any money from the Panama War? I totally forgot I got some loans from someone, I think the NeSA, too?

[Mishmahig]

*sigh*

The next naval battle between CSA and pacific will pit Chicago-made against Chicago-made.

So either way, Chicago's reputation gets damaged by the loss?


France's shipbuilding really is terrible, I must fix that... soon.

....an Expeditionary Force... against... what nation?



France has no submarines at all.

This seems unforgivable. We must fix this.

Edit: Can the French set up their military command outside of Raleigh or Newport News?

Italy is my ally. That should be enough of a answer on who the Exp force will be fighting for.

And feel free to set up your command wherever the hell you want. The Confederate High Command is in Atlanta, however.

Ah, I got confused since ICD said he wasn't intervening earlier. Thanks for clarifying.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

*sigh*

The next naval battle between CSA and pacific will pit Chicago-made against Chicago-made.

Chicago, do I owe you any money from the Panama War? I totally forgot I got some loans from someone, I think the NeSA, too?

From it and the ship order. No worries. YOu have 25 years

[Mishmahig]

Chicago, do I owe you any money from the Panama War? I totally forgot I got some loans from someone, I think the NeSA, too?

From it and the ship order. No worries. YOu have 25 years

Are debts transferable? As in, does Chicago care how who's repaying them, as long as they get paid back?

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

*sigh*

The next naval battle between CSA and pacific will pit Chicago-made against Chicago-made.

Chicago, do I owe you any money from the Panama War? I totally forgot I got some loans from someone, I think the NeSA, too?

NeSA could either be the Feds or the Robber Barons. I'll let you decide which devil you danced with.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Chicago, do I owe you any money from the Panama War? I totally forgot I got some loans from someone, I think the NeSA, too?

From it and the ship order. No worries. YOu have 25 years

Oh no, for the ships I am pretty caught up on that, the last payment will be made as soon as the last ship is delivered.

But I want to start paying the war loans, too.

EDIT: And maybe order some ships. The order I have right now was made by the Brazilians and won by the Colombians.