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Bering
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Postby Bering » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:06 am

Mesrane wrote:
Bering wrote:Well business is probably unbloc related and how many you are actually invited on is at the discretion of the Helm itself

Isn't the helm also an economic pact? Or just military?

I don't think we have discussed any economic issues. And considering the fact that we will probably have a wide variety of members with different economic systems and needs, it should probably remain political and military

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Postby Mesrane » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:09 am

Bering wrote:
Mesrane wrote:Isn't the helm also an economic pact? Or just military?

I don't think we have discussed any economic issues. And considering the fact that we will probably have a wide variety of members with different economic systems and needs, it should probably remain political and military

Then business will be even easier then I thought. Good. And I only want a part in one military exercise a year or so. Not every one.
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Postby Whiteshore » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:10 am

Any possible causes fr thr Zhouran-Sarya split, Bering and Mesrane?
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Postby Bering » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:12 am

Mesrane wrote:
Bering wrote:I don't think we have discussed any economic issues. And considering the fact that we will probably have a wide variety of members with different economic systems and needs, it should probably remain political and military

Then business will be even easier then I thought. Good. And I only want a part in one military exercise a year or so. Not every one.

We might have some economic issues, I am not going to be making decisions about the Helm's policy. The members will
We will see...The pact is about self defense and all. We will mostly focus on working with ourselves

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Postby Mesrane » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:13 am

Whiteshore wrote:Any possible causes fr thr Zhouran-Sarya split, Bering and Mesrane?

Zhouran moved to the right too much for the USSN's liking?
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Postby Bering » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:15 am

Whiteshore wrote:Any possible causes fr thr Zhouran-Sarya split, Bering and Mesrane?

I was actually thinking about that. Why not have that little puppet republic Baz created have a coup of sorts that puts a government similar to Zhou in charge. Bez moves troops in to stop them, and they ask you for help. You line up at the border, have a tense standoff and then you reach an agreement where Bez is allowed to re install the old government

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Postby Mesrane » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:15 am

Bering wrote:
Mesrane wrote:Then business will be even easier then I thought. Good. And I only want a part in one military exercise a year or so. Not every one.

We might have some economic issues, I am not going to be making decisions about the Helm's policy. The members will
We will see...The pact is about self defense and all. We will mostly focus on working with ourselves


Agreed. But it certainly can't hurt to have me exercising with the Helm once a year.
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Postby Whiteshore » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:16 am

Bering wrote:
Whiteshore wrote:Any possible causes fr thr Zhouran-Sarya split, Bering and Mesrane?

I was actually thinking about that. Why not have that little puppet republic Baz created have a coup of sorts that puts a government similar to Zhou in charge. Bez moves troops in to stop them, and they ask you for help. You line up at the border, have a tense standoff and then you reach an agreement where Bez is allowed to re install the old government

Ok, and that could merely be the straw that broke the camel's back as Zhou and the USSN already had alot of differences in their brands of Equalism?
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Postby Bering » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:20 am

Mesrane wrote:
Bering wrote:We might have some economic issues, I am not going to be making decisions about the Helm's policy. The members will
We will see...The pact is about self defense and all. We will mostly focus on working with ourselves


Agreed. But it certainly can't hurt to have me exercising with the Helm once a year.

True, but we need to learn how to work together and how to fight in a variety of countries. I'm not saying you won't be occasionally invited, but an extra unit that does not fit into the regular plans might cause issues. Remember the cold war means that war could happen any day and we need to be able to react as best we can.

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Postby Bering » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:20 am

Whiteshore wrote:
Bering wrote:I was actually thinking about that. Why not have that little puppet republic Baz created have a coup of sorts that puts a government similar to Zhou in charge. Bez moves troops in to stop them, and they ask you for help. You line up at the border, have a tense standoff and then you reach an agreement where Bez is allowed to re install the old government

Ok, and that could merely be the straw that broke the camel's back as Zhou and the USSN already had alot of differences in their brands of Equalism?

Sounds good, but Bez should really approve the plan first

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Postby Mesrane » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:21 am

Well good night guys.
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Postby Bering » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:22 am

Mesrane wrote:Well good night guys.

Good night, little and alone Nyssa :p

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Postby Mesrane » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:25 am

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Mesrane wrote:Well good night guys.

Good night, little and alone Nyssa :p

Yup. With my mountains and my success formula I am totally helpless. Oh could you turn on the nightlight please Bering? I can shoot Arcasans better that way. :p
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Postby Bering » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:26 am

Mesrane wrote:
Bering wrote:Good night, little and alone Nyssa :p

Yup. With my mountains and my success formula I am totally helpless. Oh could you turn on the nightlight please Bering? I can shoot Arcasans better that way. :p

Of course, we all know you are incapable of actually beating me without significant help from a third party :p

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Postby Bering » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:31 am

Can everyone post whose side of the cold war they are on?
I want to build an accurate alliance map
Helm has - Arcas, Durera, Zhouran, Seresia, Nyland, Turkau Khagante (?)

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Postby Victoriala » Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:34 am

Zabrola wrote:
Bering wrote:
Lower your population by a lot

Here is my updated app-
NS Nation Name: Zabrola
Nation Name: The Tierra Libre of Zabrola
Capital: Macha
Population: 25 million (The other 75 million either died during the sinking or managed to immigrate to other countries on Earth)
Map Claims: What's left of Aredia. I would edit the map, but don't know how. Overall, I don't have much of a preference, like in the case of someone else wanting to claim that part of Aredia for a realistic European type of climate for their nation, be my guest, I'll take anything else. The population is refugees, so they're just looking for somewhere to go.
Major Cultures: Zabrolan; but based on the climate of their former origin, they'll either be part of Vrook (for cold origins) or Zeem (for warm origins) culture. '
RL Equivalent Cultures: Scandinavians, North Asians, Canadians, and Northeastern Europe (these 4 are considered Vrooks) Hispanics, Southeastern Europe, Africans, and Pacific Islanders (these 4 are considered Zeems)
Major Languages (of the nation): Zabrolan
RL Equivalent Languages: God, what isn't spoken. Zabrolan is more of a slang language. It incorporates English, Spanish, and Eastern European languages the most though with some symbols thrown in there from time to time. It's kind of like Simlish, how I imagine it.
Government (short description): So far, Zabrola is considered a Democratic Socialist state. It has been composed of a Council with different ministers elected out of expertise in their fields; so there's a Minister of Medicine, Minister of Transportation, Minister of Law, etc. However, there's been a reason shake-up in our history that might change everything, and people have not been very trusting or fond of the Council.
Head of State: Nobody, so far.
Head of Government: the Former Minister of Labor Esmé Venture
Will you make a religion?: I do not plan to, one might be created spontaneously however, if I feel that it goes in line with my nation's story
Will you make your own calendar?: No, probably not.
Three Major Imports: It liked to import cars, back when cars were allowed. Now, we're probably going to be importing buses and bikes. No, Zabrola's not big on imports. There's a self-sufficient and eco-friendly ideology going on. Depending on where they're placed on the map, this might change however, and what the RP calls for.
Three Major Exports: Clothes, we got an awful lot of fashion designers, and wannabe fashion designers. Can we export those as well? Have them wreck the fashion trends somewhere else. We also make a lot of excess computers and TVs' for a nation that doesn't allow the sale of computers and TVs' to customers for their personal use. Only businesses can buy them, and with a license. Therefore, we export "Brola" brand Computers and TVs. As far as natural resources, our nation was set on an artificial island, so nope.
Currency: the Shellcoin.
Brief History: Placed on an artificial island out in the Pacific Ocean. Lots of immigrants come. Zabrola is run by the Council. Tourism industry was going good. Eventually people become unhappy with the Council as the economy suffer and poverty spreads, as well as inadequate pervasive law system. "At least they ain't corrupt." People shrug.The Environmentalist Minister of Labor Esmé Venture makes the most improvement. However, the artificial island ends up falling apart literally from sheer mass of people. Led by Esmé Venture, the people decide to evacuate off of Earth and start over in a new world as her as their new leader. So, they're considering Eordae. They're basically refugees now and that's why they're cool with getting any land they can on the map.
Anything to add?: I'll be making a new original flag soon, but it will be depend on what happens in the RP. If I'm accepted, that is. :)

Asians aren't in Aredia. If these Scandinavians of yours can mariachi, go.

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Postby NamChoSun » Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:58 am

I just say I want be there and has sea coast only.Just a part of it.
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Postby Whiteshore » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:17 am

Victoriala, so basically the Turkau Khaganate is an enclave of Taichan(they have evolved from the name for the Arcas Empire-destroying barbarians to the word for Altaic Peoples in Eorda)civilization in Aredia?
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Postby Bezombia » Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:04 am

Mesrane wrote:
NamChoSun wrote:Which is your country?

You aren't claiming the whole of Dorjania are you? Cause that's a NO.

The political map for those who couldn't find it or didn't bother to look:

http://postimg.org/image/s0zen5edj/full/

Also, we ALREADY HAVE TWO ESTABLISHED SUPERPOWERS. THERE SHALL NOT BE ANYMORE. But, I do understand the three of you had no way of knowing. But, because the current geopolitical scene is a cold-war between Amcar and the USSN, the two superpowers, every other nation is either part of the two superpower's respective blocs, or is part of the Helm (Bering will explain this) or is a "Free Nation" AKA not part of any blocs. But we already have two established superpowers.


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Postby Bezombia » Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:05 am

I'd also like to say that this "third wheel" shouldn't be more powerful than the two major poles.
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Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
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Postby Whiteshore » Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:09 am

Bezombia, what do you think caused the Zhouran-Sarya split? Differences between the types of Equalism Zhouran and Sarya practiced?
My Political Compass
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.49

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Postby Bezombia » Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:21 am

Whiteshore wrote:Bezombia, what do you think caused the Zhouran-Sarya split? Differences between the types of Equalism Zhouran and Sarya practiced?


Makes sense to me. And that idea for a Aevi standoff sounds pretty good.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby Bering » Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:29 am

Bezombia wrote:
Whiteshore wrote:Bezombia, what do you think caused the Zhouran-Sarya split? Differences between the types of Equalism Zhouran and Sarya practiced?


Makes sense to me. And that idea for a Aevi standoff sounds pretty good.

I will leave it to you two to figure out the details while I go off to update the map

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Postby Lyanica » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:03 pm

Bering wrote:Can everyone post whose side of the cold war they are on?
I want to build an accurate alliance map
Helm has - Arcas, Durera, Zhouran, Seresia, Nyland, Turkau Khagante (?)

Nyaland too! We still need the protection!
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Postby Bering » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:53 pm

Lyanica wrote:
Bering wrote:Can everyone post whose side of the cold war they are on?
I want to build an accurate alliance map
Helm has - Arcas, Durera, Zhouran, Seresia, Nyland, Turkau Khagante (?)

Nyaland too! We still need the protection!

You are on the list already! (just misspelled..)

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