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Bering
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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:43 pm

Graknopia wrote:
Bering wrote:You are up there two.

:(

What did you think of the flag?
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Postby Graknopia » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:44 pm

Bering wrote:
Graknopia wrote::(

What did you think of the flag?

New one? Where!?
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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:48 pm

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Graknopia wrote:whatever matches

http://postimg.org/image/gmf8et6nd/
How does Red look?
If the border does not look right, I apologize but I couldn't seem to get it right. But that might just be me

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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:49 pm

United Paradisia wrote:Is it okay if my nation is called Paradisia?
Edit: I don't what culture would be? Saxon? I'm not sure

Yes it can.
As for culture, why not Greek? (we already have Saxons)

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Postby Lyanica » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:50 pm

Bering wrote:
Graknopia wrote::(

You are up there two.

Good so they'll help form the Helm? Also, a NotSino-Russian split would be a good idea since the Helm is a defensive pact. It gives the "super powers" of the pact a reason to create a defensive pact with Nyaland and Arcas, who are also afraid of attack. Except maybe there shouldn't be "reconciliation" (RL scenario example: Nixon doesn't visit China or talk with them or USSR) or too much opening of diplomacy between Amcar and Zhouran/Belka, so they truly are a distinct third power
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Postby Graknopia » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:51 pm

Bering wrote:
Bering wrote:http://postimg.org/image/gmf8et6nd/
How does Red look?
If the border does not look right, I apologize but I couldn't seem to get it right. But that might just be me

Thank you, that is perfect
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Postby Lyanica » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:51 pm

Bering wrote:
United Paradisia wrote:Is it okay if my nation is called Paradisia?
Edit: I don't what culture would be? Saxon? I'm not sure

Yes it can.
As for culture, why not Greek? (we already have Saxons)

Do we have many African or Australian/pioneering cultures?
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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:56 pm

Lyanica wrote:
Bering wrote:You are up there two.

Good so they'll help form the Helm? Also, a NotSino-Russian split would be a good idea since the Helm is a defensive pact. It gives the "super powers" of the pact a reason to create a defensive pact with Nyaland and Arcas, who are also afraid of attack. Except maybe there shouldn't be "reconciliation" (RL scenario example: Nixon doesn't visit China or talk with them or USSR) or too much opening of diplomacy between Amcar and Zhouran/Belka, so they truly are a distinct third power

I can't speak for Belka, but Zhuoran is in in the alliance. Belka is not as active, I will ask him through a TG when he is online if he is interested

Lyanica wrote:
Bering wrote:Yes it can.
As for culture, why not Greek? (we already have Saxons)

Do we have many African or Australian/pioneering cultures?

At least one of the former. As for pioneer, not quite sure.

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Postby Mesrane » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:20 pm

Lyanica wrote:You know, hopefully the Helm will be I mean.

I know. But I meant sole countries rather than entire blocs. Amcar and the USSN are the only "country superpowers." But with the Helm bloc may become a "super-power" bloc because it looks like a lot of nations will be a part of it.
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Postby Mesrane » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:24 pm

Mesrane wrote:
NamChoSun wrote:Which is your country?

You aren't claiming the whole of Dorjania are you? Cause that's a NO.

The political map for those who couldn't find it or didn't bother to look:

http://postimg.org/image/s0zen5edj/full/

Also, we ALREADY HAVE TWO ESTABLISHED SUPERPOWERS. THERE SHALL NOT BE ANYMORE. But, I do understand the three of you had no way of knowing. But, because the current geopolitical scene is a cold-war between Amcar and the USSN, the two superpowers, every other nation is either part of the two superpower's respective blocs, or is part of the Helm (Bering will explain this) or is a "Free Nation" AKA not part of any blocs. But we already have two established superpowers.


The Helm (third bloc) may become a third superpower if a lot of countries join. But the only two countries who are superpowers in and of themselves are Amcar and the USSN.
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Postby Whiteshore » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:39 pm

Nyssa, why aren't you joining the Helm? Because of Seresia's behavior in your west and the fact Zhouran and Seresia are dominated politically by Equalists(granted, moderate democratic ones)?
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Postby Mesrane » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:41 pm

Whiteshore wrote:Nyssa, why aren't you joining the Helm? Because of Seresia's behavior in your west and the fact Zhouran and Seresia are dominated politically by Equalists(granted, moderate democratic ones)?

That's only a small part of it. I have simply decided to be a libertarian version of Switzerland. I am basically giving the middle finger to all blocs and alliances.
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Postby Whiteshore » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:44 pm

Bering, is there a UN analouge here in Eordae?
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Postby Mesrane » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:44 pm

Not currently.
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Postby Whiteshore » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:46 pm

Zhouran is basically the People's Republic of China if Mao Zedong was a democratic socialist who followed the Nordic Model and formed a third bloc in the cold war.
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Postby Mesrane » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:47 pm

Whiteshore wrote:Zhouran is basically the People's Republic of China if Mao Zedong was a democratic socialist who followed the Nordic Model and formed a third bloc in the cold war.

Cool. Wait you mean a fourth bloc? Or is Zhouran a Helm nation?
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Postby Whiteshore » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:49 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Whiteshore wrote:Zhouran is basically the People's Republic of China if Mao Zedong was a democratic socialist who followed the Nordic Model and formed a third bloc in the cold war.

Cool. Wait you mean a fourth bloc? Or is Zhouran a Helm nation?

The latter.
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Postby Mesrane » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:52 pm

Whiteshore wrote:
Mesrane wrote:Cool. Wait you mean a fourth bloc? Or is Zhouran a Helm nation?

The latter.

Cool. I may be "friendlier" with the Helm than the Amcar or USSN blocks but only slightly.
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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:52 pm

Whiteshore wrote:
Mesrane wrote:Cool. Wait you mean a fourth bloc? Or is Zhouran a Helm nation?

The latter.

Well he didn't really form it. More like he was a part of its formation
The Helm was largely coordinated by Arcas (hence the English name) during a rough patch it had with the superpowers

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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:54 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Whiteshore wrote:The latter.

Cool. I may be "friendlier" with the Helm than the Amcar or USSN blocks but only slightly.

You can be an observer nation

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Postby Mesrane » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:56 pm

Bering wrote:
Mesrane wrote:Cool. I may be "friendlier" with the Helm than the Amcar or USSN blocks but only slightly.

You can be an observer nation

I will not join/closely associate in any way. But in my dealings with the blocs I shall be the "friendliest" to the Helm.
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Postby Bering » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:57 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Bering wrote:You can be an observer nation

I will not join/closely associate in any way. But in my dealings with the blocs I shall be the "friendliest" to the Helm.

Well then. You can't come to the meetings!

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Postby Mesrane » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:00 am

Bering wrote:
Mesrane wrote:I will not join/closely associate in any way. But in my dealings with the blocs I shall be the "friendliest" to the Helm.

Well then. You can't come to the meetings!

Good! :p

I was referring more to business dealings and maybe a couple military exercises. That's about as friendly as I'll get with any of the blocs.
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Postby Bering » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:03 am

Mesrane wrote:
Bering wrote:Well then. You can't come to the meetings!

Good! :p

I was referring more to business dealings and maybe a couple military exercises. That's about as friendly as I'll get with any of the blocs.

Well business is probably unbloc related and how many you are actually invited on is at the discretion of the Helm itself

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Postby Mesrane » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:04 am

Bering wrote:
Mesrane wrote:Good! :p

I was referring more to business dealings and maybe a couple military exercises. That's about as friendly as I'll get with any of the blocs.

Well business is probably unbloc related and how many you are actually invited on is at the discretion of the Helm itself

Isn't the helm also an economic pact? Or just military?
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