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Whiteshore
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Postby Whiteshore » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:10 am

I'd prefer if the Helm has two heads, the Secretary General and the Supreme Commander for thebpolitical and military sides of the alliance respectably.
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Bering
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Postby Bering » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:24 am

Whiteshore wrote:I'd prefer if the Helm has two heads, the Secretary General and the Supreme Commander for thebpolitical and military sides of the alliance respectably.

I think that would depend on how closely the members want to coordinate
They are tired of being dragged around by the USSN and Amcar, We can't say how willing the members will be for a military alliance like that
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Lyanica
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Postby Lyanica » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:12 am

Bering wrote:
Whiteshore wrote:I'd prefer if the Helm has two heads, the Secretary General and the Supreme Commander for thebpolitical and military sides of the alliance respectably.

I think that would depend on how closely the members want to coordinate
They are tired of being dragged around by the USSN and Amcar, We can't say how willing the members will be for a military alliance like that

Those who didn't want to be involved in a defensive military pact would have just remained Free States. I would think that a defensive pact would be imperative in order to both defend the Helm and also to make it distinct from the Free States bloc
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Lyanica
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Postby Lyanica » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:14 am

The Helm just feels like it needs more solidarity to make it a true power bloc is all.
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Bering
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Postby Bering » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:44 am

Lyanica wrote:
Bering wrote:I think that would depend on how closely the members want to coordinate
They are tired of being dragged around by the USSN and Amcar, We can't say how willing the members will be for a military alliance like that

Those who didn't want to be involved in a defensive military pact would have just remained Free States. I would think that a defensive pact would be imperative in order to both defend the Helm and also to make it distinct from the Free States bloc

Fair Enough.
How would we decide on a military commander?
Would we elect them at meetings separate from the chairman, is it tied to the Chairman election? (let's say Arcas won the chairmanship, would the commander of the Arcasan military become Supreme Commander) or do we have separate ballots?
How long does a term last? X number of years? Life? Can it be renewed? etc

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Graknopia
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Postby Graknopia » Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:57 am

News/requests 4 me?
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Bering
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Postby Bering » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:34 pm

Graknopia wrote:News/requests 4 me?

http://postimg.org/image/6xb9eto23/
tada?
Do you like it or should I try again?

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Graknopia
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Postby Graknopia » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:49 pm

Bering wrote:
Graknopia wrote:News/requests 4 me?

http://postimg.org/image/6xb9eto23/
tada?
Do you like it or should I try again?

I like it, but if possible could you put some sort of border around the edges?
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Bering
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Postby Bering » Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:17 pm

Graknopia wrote:
Bering wrote:http://postimg.org/image/6xb9eto23/
tada?
Do you like it or should I try again?

I like it, but if possible could you put some sort of border around the edges?

The edges of the circle?

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Postby Mesrane » Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:27 pm

Lyanica wrote:
Bering wrote:I think that would depend on how closely the members want to coordinate
They are tired of being dragged around by the USSN and Amcar, We can't say how willing the members will be for a military alliance like that

Those who didn't want to be involved in a defensive military pact would have just remained Free States. I would think that a defensive pact would be imperative in order to both defend the Helm and also to make it distinct from the Free States bloc

I wouldn't call the Free States a bloc. Rather "Free States" (I think) describes any nation that is not a member off/does not heavily associate itself with any of the previous three blocs. The Free States themselves don't neccasarily associate closely with one another. But they could.
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Graknopia
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Postby Graknopia » Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:30 pm

Bering wrote:
Graknopia wrote:I like it, but if possible could you put some sort of border around the edges?

The edges of the circle?

The outer edges plox
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Lyanica
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Postby Lyanica » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:18 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Lyanica wrote:Those who didn't want to be involved in a defensive military pact would have just remained Free States. I would think that a defensive pact would be imperative in order to both defend the Helm and also to make it distinct from the Free States bloc

I wouldn't call the Free States a bloc. Rather "Free States" (I think) describes any nation that is not a member off/does not heavily associate itself with any of the previous three blocs. The Free States themselves don't neccasarily associate closely with one another. But they could.

No they wouldn't I was just trying to come up with a word for them. I think that the Helm should be distinct from the Free States in that its members do associate at least somewhat closely together. Part of the reason Nyaland would be part of the Helm is since we are right in the middle of the two superpowers (and one bloody Zhouran Civil War), we need a defensive pact of some sort to ensure our safety.
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Postby Mesrane » Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:16 pm

@Lyanica: Well yeah then in that case you'd be absolutely right.
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Bering
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Postby Bering » Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:27 pm

Lyanica wrote:
Mesrane wrote:I wouldn't call the Free States a bloc. Rather "Free States" (I think) describes any nation that is not a member off/does not heavily associate itself with any of the previous three blocs. The Free States themselves don't neccasarily associate closely with one another. But they could.

No they wouldn't I was just trying to come up with a word for them. I think that the Helm should be distinct from the Free States in that its members do associate at least somewhat closely together. Part of the reason Nyaland would be part of the Helm is since we are right in the middle of the two superpowers (and one bloody Zhouran Civil War), we need a defensive pact of some sort to ensure our safety.

Good point. Would Nyland like to be a founding member? Since you do seem like the type of nation that would jump at this chance. Considering your circumstances

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Postby Bering » Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:33 pm

Graknopia wrote:
Bering wrote:The edges of the circle?

The outer edges plox

Outer edges of the circle, got it
Any color preference?

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Lyanica
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Postby Lyanica » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:06 pm

Bering wrote:
Lyanica wrote:No they wouldn't I was just trying to come up with a word for them. I think that the Helm should be distinct from the Free States in that its members do associate at least somewhat closely together. Part of the reason Nyaland would be part of the Helm is since we are right in the middle of the two superpowers (and one bloody Zhouran Civil War), we need a defensive pact of some sort to ensure our safety.

Good point. Would Nyland like to be a founding member? Since you do seem like the type of nation that would jump at this chance. Considering your circumstances

Trust me we'd more than jump at the opportunity! We didn't pick the greatest neighborhood... When I signed up I was seriously wondering why there was so much prime land unclaimed in that region! Now I know! :shock:
So, sure we'd definitely want to be a founding member!
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Mesrane
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Postby Mesrane » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:13 pm

N-N-NEUTRALITY YEAH!

D-D-DO THE NEUTRALITY DANCE!
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Postby Bering » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:16 pm

Lyanica wrote:
Bering wrote:Good point. Would Nyland like to be a founding member? Since you do seem like the type of nation that would jump at this chance. Considering your circumstances

Trust me we'd more than jump at the opportunity! We didn't pick the greatest neighborhood... When I signed up I was seriously wondering why there was so much prime land unclaimed in that region! Now I know! :shock:
So, sure we'd definitely want to be a founding member!

So you make four founders. Five seems like a good number, the rest can be additional members

Mesrane wrote:N-N-NEUTRALITY YEAH!

D-D-DO THE NEUTRALITY DANCE!

Quiet Free nation! :p
You just aren't cool enough to join "The Helm"

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Postby Mesrane » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:21 pm

On the contrary. I'm simply too neutral.

And now a quote from Futurama:

"My gut tells me: Maybe."
:p

N-N-NEUTRALITY!

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Postby Bering » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:48 pm

Mesrane wrote:On the contrary. I'm simply too neutral.

And now a quote from Futurama:

"My gut tells me: Maybe."
:p

N-N-NEUTRALITY!

anyone want to join the nonalinged and the non-associates? The NOT-INVOLVED?

Don't forget unprotected :p

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Postby Mesrane » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:57 pm

Bering wrote:
Mesrane wrote:On the contrary. I'm simply too neutral.

And now a quote from Futurama:
:p
"My gut tells me: Maybe."


N-N-NEUTRALITY!

anyone want to join the nonalinged and the non-associates? The NOT-INVOLVED?

Don't forget unprotected :p


Says Bering about the nation with a million-man militia. :p
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Postby Bering » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:04 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Bering wrote:Don't forget unprotected :p


Says Bering about the nation with a million-man militia. :p

They can't last forever :p

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Postby Mesrane » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:05 pm

Bering wrote:
Mesrane wrote:
Says Bering about the nation with a million-man militia. :p

They can't last forever :p

Says Bering about a country with very flexible sexual morals :p
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Bering
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Postby Bering » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:08 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Bering wrote:They can't last forever :p

Says Bering about a country with very flexible sexual morals :p

You still need time to grow them

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Postby Mesrane » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:10 pm

Bering wrote:
Mesrane wrote:Says Bering about a country with very flexible sexual morals :p

You still need time to grow them

That's where the cave-ridden mountains come into play.
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